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Afrikan Reflections Brothers And Sisters Must Drop The "Willie Lynch" Mentality And Combat white supremacy where ever it raises its head.

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DAYUM & CTFU @ you leaving leaving skid marks after a sister tells you she'd "prolly date a WM" How do y'all feel if she dates other races or biracials?
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How do you feel about a brother telling you the same thing?
If he does, then oh well. I'm happily involved, so that's a moot issue.

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If you don't like the idea what makes you think a brother should?
I didn't say he should like the idea. Every time IR is mentioned white people are the focus. Some Black people ONLY dislike whites; yet, give biracials and other minorities a pass; that's why I asked.

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to each their own but most people date other races for the wrong reasons (thinking some how skin color is gonna make it work) if your soul mate is another color cool ride the rainbow into the sunset. but if you just want something different we our all the same we just look different.
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90% of the time with ir's it's hidden self hate

But I dont argue with the blind. They get off on the attention, so I don't bother. More sistas for me to chose from.
Yea, when a sista says "I would date a white guy" she drops down a few notches in my thoughts. The peckerwood would take advantage of you during slavery, now you think he's hot? It's like when the nazis took over France, a lot of french women were perversly attracted to the nazis. The french resistance hated these sell-outs.
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Since when was a white woman a "sista"....
Read the screen name and then read the quote again and then it will all make sense, Sis.
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Because of all the bull-shit that white people put us through ... the only way I can fuck with a white sister "again" is that she would have to know our true history and have a lot of money to go with it too,( but if she is smart than a M/F than money dosent matter); hell, I've found that most of our MOOR (African) sisters dont even know their own history, but if I was to find one, it would be ON! Besides that, I love all women, I dont have a racist bone in my body, and I dont see nothing wrong with anyone dating someone out of their race , just as long as they ,never, never, foreget who they are and what they are. I dont want to see another tiger woods walking around in the dark.
But in regards to the topic, as said, "To each his/her own". Right... So to "me", "MY" OWN. (Gittit?)
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I love my black men and all, but I am becoming more and more disappointed w/them. Not a day goes by that I don't see a mixed kid w/a white woman or brother with a white woman. And let me just say, my mom's side of the family have a "white" obsession; my mother is one out of seven children. Two boys and five girls. The oldest daughter married a black man, and one of my mom's older sisters is a lesbian...and only dates WHITE women. One of her brothers is married to a white woman (divorced his black wife whom he had a kid w/ because she was "lazy" and then remarries and has kids w/ a white woman who has never had a formal job, nor does she know anything about cooking or cleaning. What double standards. ].

Her other brother only dates WHITE woman and her two younger sisters who are twins have married and have kids with white men. One twin divorced and remarried to a white man and had two more kids by him and the other twin married a black man. My mother married a black man, my father and had three kids with him. My grandfather divorced my Creole grandmother and married some blonde, blue eyed, disgusting albeit nice white woman who is young enough to be his daughter and I found out that one of the reasons my grandparents divorced was because my grandmother had cheated on my grandfather with a WHITE man. I swear, I am not making this up. My mom's side of the family is full of self hating NEGROS. There I said it, NEGROS. They have no pride in their blackness; they think they are white. Sad. The KKK sure as hell don't see them that way.
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As for me? I am only interested in marrying a black/African-American/African man, but am open minded toward Asian/Native American/Latino men. But nothing trumps black, imo.
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It is impertive not to breed with white people, our enemies, because it only makes their race more powerful than before ... unless, that person disown his or her race, to make our race better - only than would it be okay. I have a mixed naphew whose only seven - years of age. His white family is teaching him how to hate Mexicans and, anything thats not white - including himself! I had to disown him because of this self - hatred of himself (being that, his great, great, grandmother was a mexican indian) sadly, I told him not to come back to my house. Because of this I would tell all races not to date white people! They are (not all) evilness in its highest foam, yet I love all people! But you can only love a person as much as they allow you too.
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I love my black men and all, but I am becoming more and more disappointed w/them. Not a day goes by that I don't see a mixed kid w/a white woman or brother with a white woman. And let me just say, my mom's side of the family have a "white" obsession; my mother is one out of seven children. Two boys and five girls. The oldest daughter married a black man, and one of my mom's older sisters is a lesbian...and only dates WHITE women. One of her brothers is married to a white woman (divorced his black wife whom he had a kid w/ because she was "lazy" and then remarries and has kids w/ a white woman who has never had a formal job, nor does she know anything about cooking or cleaning. What double standards. ].

Her other brother only dates WHITE woman and her two younger sisters who are twins have married and have kids with white men. One twin divorced and remarried to a white man and had two more kids by him and the other twin married a black man. My mother married a black man, my father and had three kids with him. My grandfather divorced my Creole grandmother and married some blonde, blue eyed, disgusting albeit nice white woman who is young enough to be his daughter and I found out that one of the reasons my grandparents divorced was because my grandmother had cheated on my grandfather with a WHITE man. I swear, I am not making this up. My mom's side of the family is full of self hating NEGROS. There I said it, NEGROS. They have no pride in their blackness; they think they are white. Sad. The KKK sure as hell don't see them that way.

Stats say that over 90% of Brothers are with sisters. I think the IR couples are catching your eye more because it's unusual. But they're not the majority. My uncle has a Japanese wife and he's the only one in my fam with another race. 1love
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It is impertive not to breed with white people, our enemies, because it only makes their race more powerful than before ... unless, that person disown his or her race, to make our race better - only than would it be okay. I have a mixed naphew whose only seven - years of age. His white family is teaching him how to hate Mexicans and, anything thats not white - including himself! I had to disown him because of this self - hatred of himself (being that, his great, great, grandmother was a mexican indian) sadly, I told him not to come back to my house. Because of this I would tell all races not to date white people! They are (not all) evilness in its highest foam, yet I love all people! But you can only love a person as much as they allow you too.
just my opinion ok. but i wouldnt have disowning my nephew and tell him not to come to my house. pluis if he is only seven!! who do you think can teach him better??? or at least try to.
Another thing. To me, one thing is dating outside your race, and another different thing is lettin the family of your partner tell his/her kid how to hate himself.
Many bi-racial people had been able to grow in an envioroment that estimulated their pride so they could contribute to the liberation.

The problem to me is the Black father/mother who hates HIM(HERSELF, whether he ends up with a white person or not. Parent, no matta if they are both Black, who hate themselves can also teach their children to hate themselves.
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I do not exclusively date black so of course it is not important for me to choose someone who dates exclusively black. I have been in a relationship with a non-black person for a number of years now and I can honestly say that he has been my backbone during the eye opening growth that has been shaping me in recent years. There is no way on this earth I am going to give up someone who supports me, learns my struggles and history alongside me and is building a foundation with me just for the sake of color. In our discussions and experiences, he has made it known to his white family as well as me that he is willing to fight to the death for my freedom and our future children's freedom right along with me. He loves and accepts loc'd up, pan-africanist, prideful, strong , brown complected me. Thus, I can not knock someone for dating outside their race because I have experienced less acceptance in my journey from self loathing blacks than some whites and am in no position to judge the dynamics in anyone else's realtionship. If he or she regardless of race can grow and try to understand with you, I support you.
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Napoleon, what is that thing breakdancin in your avatar? He gettin' down tah deff, ain't he? Haha

Yeah, that's a very real thing, Elisa; mate selection motives and the cycle of self hatred.
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I thought I had responded to this topic before but here goes.

It's something that I think about a lot because I saw a ton of interracial dating when I was in school. When I first went to school, I called myself being open to dating other races, and thinking of my parents as being close-minded when they said they'd strangle me if I brought yt home. Then, my father explained to me that it was a pathology that he'd hoped to rid me of by being a strong Black man.

Though I let go of those ideas as my social and political knowledge grew, I didn't quite understand what my father meant until I read the autobiography of one of the Little Rock 9. After all was said and done, she wound up settling down with a white man and said that she knew it was because while she was going through her ordeal, it was only white men who had the power to protect her. That's when I finally realized what my father meant.

To wrap this up, I trust in the strength and power of Black men and made a vow to myself to never let any Black man question my love for him by running to yt for anything.

George Jackson said it best: love of self and love of kind is the first law of nature.
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Interesting thread...

ISO Black Women Looking For Interracial Love
ISO Black Women Looking For Interracial Love : NPR

For many black women in America, finding love has become a serious issue.

Census data show that roughly 40 percent of black adult women in the U.S. have never been married. That's nearly twice the percentage of white women.

One entrepreneur in Los Angeles is fighting the odds. Her mission: move black women from no man's land to a diverse dating world.

Black Girl's Guide To Interracial Dating

More than 100 black women pack a small Italian restaurant near West Los Angeles. It's standing-room only. They're not there for the food; they're there for a seminar called "Free Your Mind: The Black Girl's Guide to Interracial Dating."

Fleace Weaver, an L.A. socialite and the organizer of the night's event, got the idea after noticing that many of her black friends had it all — a career, house, independence — but no man.

Weaver is black. She dates men of all colors — black, white, brown — and wants more black women to do the same. "I am an international lover. All right; I am an equal opportunity lover," Weaver says. "That means I love who is good to me. I don't want anybody just because they're a certain color."

Some black professional women say it's harder to find a black man at their same education and income level. You can see the trend on college campuses. According to the Department of Education, in the fall of 2007, 64 percent of black students enrolled in college were women.

But Weaver argues that Mr. Right doesn't have to be Mr. Black. "There's no reason for us to believe we have to be alone. The only thing that's keeping us from finding someone is that we limit ourselves," Weaver says.

Crossing Racial Lines For Love

Interracial dating is a sensitive issue in the black community. Blacks have a brutal history with race relations; some blacks see dating outside the race as betraying the culture.

Still, more black men are thinking outside the box. According to research from Stanford University, black men are nearly three times more likely than black women to marry interracially.

If black women are set on "black love only," Weaver says they may be passing up good men. "Some of you all out here have gotten some signals, and you all missed them. Or you got signals, and you all blew him off because he wasn't chocolate," Weaver says. "But we've got to get over that — unless you want to be home with chocolate cats."

Let's Talk Men

A dozen nonblack men — all of whom date or are married to black women — speak on a panel. They answer questions about crossing the color line. For instance: How do you know if a nonblack guy likes black women?

"If a white guy, Asian guy or Mexican guy — whatever race, irrelevant — likes you and he has skills, then he's going to ask you out, just like a black man would. If you're in a social setting and a man comes up to you, he's interested. That's it," says panelist Francisco Dao.

The panel also touches on that other sensitive topic for black women: hair. Are other men OK with the various textures and styles of black women's hair? The entire panel agrees: short, long, straight or kinky, it doesn't matter.
Christopher Rawley is white and is married to a black woman. After his wife burned herself with a curling iron, he told her: "Don't do this because of what you think I want you to be like. Be you. And you're beautiful natural. You're beautiful however you want to feel," Rawley says.

Weaver also invited a few black men to speak to show that they support this cause — that the program is not to bash them. The group includes Ryeal Simms, a relationship coach who encourages his black female clients to expand their options — but to do it for the right reasons. "Because if you're going in it thinking that if he's not African-American, he's going to treat me better, and I'm going to be really happy regardless, we're all still men," Simms says.

Regardless of whom the women choose to date, Weaver hopes they leave the seminar with at least one thought.

"Dating is just dating. Men are just men. You know, it's all the same at the end of the day," Weaver says.

Weaver is taking the Free Your Mind seminar to Chicago, Atlanta and New York this fall.
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I've always wanted to be with a black woman. But I've always been looked over by my sistahs for the "gangstalicious" cats. I never understood that. They'd look over a nice guy that appreciates them for t hem for the dude that forces them to change who they are. Make them lose all sense of who they are, give them babies, then leave then high and dry. It bothered me at one point but I started to think about it. If a woman wants that...who am I to question thier logic? We get what we ask for. Up to this day, I have never been inimate with a black woman. Not by choice. In my case....being able to properly articulate, realizing there is a place and time for certain things, realizing that you have to do what you have to do in order to do what you want to do, not dumbing down to impress, is all a turn-off to the sistas around here. I, now, can't pursue or enjoy the company of a woman of another race because I KNOW that I won't be happy until I can fully give my heart to a revolutionary black woman. I don't want that "Beyounce" or that "Alicia Keys". I want that "Angela Davis" or that "Assata Shakur". Not just your typical sista who's idea of Afrocentricity is "Grown and Sexy". So whats worst...being dissed for one of another race...or being dissed for someone of your race that isn't even worthy of a strong black woman?
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