Exclusive Black Dating your views

[Sha Mecca]

Originally Posted by OnMyWaveLength

I think you've made some good points - interracial dating might be the answer to some black women in areas/ countries where the black men clearly prefer white women and there is a shortage of black men. But I would always say that it's in ones best interests if at all possible to date another black person. Personally I am at the point now where I would only consider black men although the irony is that it would be so much easier for me to find a non sexist white man who was my intellectual equal. However, I know it wouldn't work for me for all kinds of reasons.

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[OnMyWaveLength]

Originally Posted by Sierra

Im sorry sista, but is you crazy! That is most definitely oxymoronic. You seem to have some real hard bent issues with black men being sexist, but how in the world are you figuring that crackkka men aren't? They invented sexism!

Well maybe you should have contributed to one of my threads relating to gender equality and explained why you think there is no problem with sexism in the Black community/ Black conscious community.

[OnMyWaveLength]

Originally Posted by Kwilu

YOU TELL HER SISTA SIERRA ! !!

Whites are crazy and blacks too—but it’s not the fault of blacks.
I personally don't care how sympathetic whites are to black struggle, no matter how much they march with us, protest with us, give us 6 figure salary jobs, etc, they know not our struggle. They know not our pain, as do my African family who lives it and feels it everyday of life, and I am an advocate of them not being put into our category, they are a disease. We are trying to heal ourselves from all the hate that has been used to get us down for centuries...SO AS FOR MARRYING A WHITE, EVEN A RED, OR YELLOW MAN I REFUSE. NEVER THAT!

INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES IS DISTRACTIONS TO THE REVOLUTION, THAT WHAT I CALL IT!

Kwilu.

I stated clearly that I personally would only consider a relationship with a Black man and that Black women are better off with Black men. However in countries like the UK, Black men (in general) prefer white women and if Black women didn't go outside their race they would be alone. If the woman's only chance to have a family is with a white man then I don't think they should be judged for that - I personally couldn't do it - I chose to leave the country rather than be in that situation - but that's a drastic step and most women aren't prepared to do that/in a position to do that.

[OnMyWaveLength]

Originally Posted by Sierra

Im sorry sista, but is you crazy! That is most definitely oxymoronic. You seem to have some real hard bent issues with black men being sexist, but how in the world are you figuring that crackkka men aren't? They invented sexism!

I'm not saying white men aren't sexist but in my experience I've found black men to be more sexist than white men...and I can understand why there is that tendency for sexism in the Black community - I can understand that the experience of racism might make black men more fierce about 'leading the woman' - but that's not the answer because where does that leave black women? Please don't think that I am praising white men or anything - far from it! I guess I was just expressing my frustration and disapointment with the men's comments to my thread - Black women and the Black conscious community.

[Sierra]

Originally Posted by OnMyWaveLength

Well maybe you should have contributed to one of my threads relating to gender equality and explained why you think there is no problem with sexism in the Black community/ Black conscious community.

Sista, I do not recall stating that there is no problem with sexism in the Black community/Black Conscious community. Where did I state that? I was only stating what I saw as you inferring that crakkka men are less "sexist" than Afree-kans, which I find to be very un true, being that "sexism" is basically something that stemmed from yts in their own social adaptation and then spread out to other races. You seem to be confusing it with gender roles as assigned in different cultures and communites. You are judgin it all from a very eurocentric/white supremacist standpoint. It seems to me that you are confused and like to cause confusion. That is what I get from you. Maybe you need to ask your own self questions first, before making these ass-umptions you have been making lately with your threads.

[Sierra]

Originally Posted by Kwilu

YOU TELL HER SISTA SIERRA ! !!

Whites are crazy and blacks too—but it’s not the fault of blacks.
I personally don't care how sympathetic whites are to black struggle, no matter how much they march with us, protest with us, give us 6 figure salary jobs, etc, they know not our struggle. They know not our pain, as do my African family who lives it and feels it everyday of life, and I am an advocate of them not being put into our category, they are a disease. We are trying to heal ourselves from all the hate that has been used to get us down for centuries...SO AS FOR MARRYING A WHITE, EVEN A RED, OR YELLOW MAN I REFUSE. NEVER THAT!

INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES IS DISTRACTIONS TO THE REVOLUTION, THAT WHAT I CALL IT!

Kwilu.

Sista Kwilu I stand with you on all points!

[Blacklilly72]

Originally Posted by OnMyWaveLength

Well in the UK there is tremendous pressure to have a white partner. I rarely saw "all black" couples. It started I would say a couple of decades ago with increasing numbers of black men going with white women and now not surprisingly the black women are following suit in large numbers, especially in the last ten years or so. My theory is that in about 100 years the UK will be white again as the black population (currently only about 2%) will be assimilated. (When a mixed race person has a child with a white person the children tend to look white).

what you said is so true because i don't know if a lot of these brothas realize this but when you have children, those children take on most of the mothers DNA so therefore if an Afrikan man concieves with a white woman that child is going to be more of the mothers race so in essence they contribute to Afrikan genocide.

[Blacklilly72]

Kwilu i am with you 1000%. It seems that we are mostly the ones who are more eager to blend with other races and you don't see asians or whites chasin us around, in fact the men in those ethnic groups ( Asian) are very loyal to their own race. Sure you see some interracial mixing in those cultures to but not hardly as much as you see us doing it. We have to show that love ourselves and there is no way we can build a nation and recover what we have lost as Afrikan people if we keep portrying this self hating and destructive image of ourselves. To recover from what was done to us it has to start with the black man and woman, that is the begining of eveything and all of our other issuses will fall into place. peace!

[Kweku_Omowale]

of course ,my prefference is black/african,although,toronto has lots of multi culturalism, i have friend of mine( west indian,married to east indian woman),the de- deselection factor is result of socio economic conditions,it is not onlya factor in amerika or kanada in brazil as well,my good friend in brazil(a member of this board) told me the samething,that there are blackans in brazil turning for white gurls,due to the fact,that they will give them what the black woman cant give dem,also because,they get to drive around their fancys car.
in the course of my life i have met beautifuuul african woman,east,west and central african,when i saw pics of sudanese women,i said" dayum" in toronto there are lots of black women,but most of dem,islamic,christians and rastas( which is still are christians lol)
de selecting occurs at various stages,here in toronto,there are lots of single black mothers,who have been abused by their man,like chris rock says" i would nevaaa date white woman" it is like datinga piece of board,lifeless lol
i prefer afrikan woman,the second would be indigenous women
i want to clarify that,the term, latino reffers to two things,the language and the mix,ladinos are native wih spaniards,those that are in la and what not are not the REAL mexicans,because the original peoples still speaks the traditional language

[OnMyWaveLength]

Originally Posted by Sierra

It seems to me that you are confused and like to cause confusion. That is what I get from you. Maybe you need to ask your own self questions first, before making these ass-umptions you have been making lately with your threads.

Well fine - that's your opinion but I think the above comment would have been better kept to yourself. I feel that I've got a right to state my opinions without you or anyone else 'personalizing' what is supposed to be a mature discussion. When you get personal/ make personal comments about my character like 'you are confused', in my opinion it's inappropriate, it's judgmental, and it lowers the tone of the forum.

[G.O.D.F.A.T.H.A.]

Hey all of you need to calm down.............This is not what we are here for. This isn't Destee or AfroChat. We are here to unite not fight. Get your minds right.

[Kwilu]

Originally Posted by OnMyWaveLength

I stated clearly that I personally would only consider a relationship with a Black man and that Black women are better off with Black men. However in countries like the UK, Black men (in general) prefer white women and if Black women didn't go outside their race they would be alone. If the woman's only chance to have a family is with a white man then I don't think they should be judged for that - I personally couldn't do it - I chose to leave the country rather than be in that situation - but that's a drastic step and most women aren't prepared to do that/in a position to do that.

You are entitled to YOUR opinion sister, as I am of MINE. But I am an avid African Nationalist and don’t welcome interracial relationships in the course of ideological struggle because if you are secure in who you are, know where you came from, and give love to your community you should not have this idea on your psyche... I know what you said, but I don’t know where you are getting at, with this idea that sounds like an oxymoron. Try to figure out how African Nationlist sistas from these forums can see themselves in interracial couples, especially concerning the question of African Nationalism / Pro-Blackness. I understand that you have a reactionary thinking and progressive. I just hate this idea that single black sisters fall in love with white men who also lie and use us (in pursuit of a "jungle fever" experience) and leave! I've heard sistas say a thousand times that black women don't NEED a man and that they are strong by nature because they have to be as black men in a racist society. Well, why is it that strong black women must extend courtesy and romance to white men? We are strong to raise families on our own. We are strong to be black women in a white man's society. We don’t need white men to step up to the plate. I know how it’s difficult to find African Nationalists black persons for marriage. But to find an African Nationalist "white" person mate would be more difficult than passing a camel through the eye of a needle! One more immediate solution is still to have a relationship with one of these brainwashed "negroes" that are all over the landscape. ..

I know it's very frustrating that today, black men and black women are re-enacting the dynamics of the colonial male-female dynamic. When other racial groups did not suffer the destruction of "natural" male and female relationships. Black people were completely created by slavery culture. It never really changed, black boys grow up with these black mothers who are also in the role of fathers. Hence, I think and I said, the inability of black men to appreciate the femaleness of black women! But most black women are "strong," they can, and have, to tow it alone, whether with children, and many are sucessful as college educated beings. Think about it...

It's really just vulnerability that makes the idea of interracial relationships...FOR ME? NEGATIVE. That’s what I feel/know.

Kwilu.

[Kwilu]

Peace sistas Sierra & Blacklilly72! ..

Kwilu.

[Sierra]

Originally Posted by G.O.D.F.A.T.H.A.

Hey all of you need to calm down.............This is not what we are here for. This isn't Destee or AfroChat. We are here to unite not fight. Get your minds right.

Peace G.O.D.F.A.T.H.A. We are here to unite not fight, but what is your opinion on the subject at hand about exclusive black dating. I don't think you expressed your opinion. Peace.

[G.O.D.F.A.T.H.A.]

You must not know who I am? I don't have to state my opinion. Sierra get your mind focused first before you ask me to post my opinion about something that you all are bickering about.