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The truth about Black Women Being Gold Diggers!!!

The truth about Black Women Being Gold Diggers!!!

I found this article interesting.

Black Women Need Love Too!: General

Saturday, March 17, 2007
The Golddigger Lie Leads to Black Male Failure!

The Gold Digger Lie Leads to Black Male Failure



My Godmother has been married for 45 years. Her husband has always been the major breadwinner. While she worked, off and on, selling Avon on the side or having a part-time job nurturing either children, the sick, or the disadvantaged, I would marvel at her because she was the Black woman being taken care of by a Black man, a regular man who worked in a meat packing house. They have been homeowners for 44 years, raised great kids, and he retired after being employed for 45 years on the same job, and now they live comfortably in their older age.



I remember my Godmother telling me that when she was dating her (future) husband, she would be HURT if he got paid and didn't buy her something like a new dress, a piece of jewelry, a fancy dinner, or arrived to pick her up without a beautiful bouquet of flowers. She said he made her feel loved, honored and cherished. She simply fell in love with him and they always had such a wonderful time because his kind gestures broke down the barrier that makes women skeptical. In reality, too many men have dishonorable intentions.



Time and time again, I hear from Black men that Black women are gold diggers. My wonderful and loving Godmother would have been thought of as a gold digger in this day and time. But due to the low resistance of men to do whatever they could to earn a woman's love, many couples have made a wonderful life together. My Godmother knew she had to tap into a mans masculine trait so to establish a secure home for him, her, and their children. Today, if she tried the same thing, she would be a part of the epidemic single Black female that would probably end up being a single mother with no man to provide and protect her and her children. Black men have lost their way in what is their duty and have confused their purpose with labeling Black women who want anything from them as gold diggers.



The way my Godmother needed verification that the man that was courting her was serious about a relationship with her, is probably similar to the way that many Black women behave today. Only now Black men have been taught that its a disgrace when a Black woman asks for a $15 pedicure.



You see the success of their relationship was based on knowing each others role as a man and as a woman. He knew he had to provide for her to have her for himself. She knew that he needed a goal and a purpose in life to provide and protect her because when she put it out there; he gladly took the role of supplying her with everything that she needed. Of course, she would work sometimes, but it was to keep herself busy while the kids were in school or to have spending dollars to buy something special for the kids or surprise him with a lavish gift for his birthday.



There is absolutely no proof that Black women are gold diggers, just the complaint of it, and a reputation that is self-destructive for both the Black male and female.



The Black female gold digger unsubstantiated reputation leads to Black male failure because the male species is motivated to acquire and achieve so to please and have a woman of his own. This is natural, innate, God-given, and normal.



Labeling the Black woman as a gold digger has serious consequences that demote innate motivating factors for Black men to achieve and acquire. The gold digger lie is a deliberate distortion of gender roles and is another method to destroy Black love, which inevitably leads to Black male failure, and that is directly tied to Black race malfunctions.



As far as Black women being the nurturer, she needs to be provided and protected so she can concentrate on her duties as a woman and not have to worry about paying the bills, protecting her children from harm, and feel secure enough to love the man that provides for her unconditionally.



The male species is built to be the provider and the protector. On average and on every level that judges what gender is the strongest and the tallest, the male wins hands down. The males major job is to provide and protect his family and his group.



Females are the natural born nurturer because she alone gives birth to off springs. Due to women being smaller and physically weaker (pound for pound) means that she must lean on a man to provide and protect her.

Now due to the woman's movement and industrializing lead by Westerners, physical strength is not as imperative as it once was, but due to natural selection, which means that any species adapts to their environment and builds on the necessary physical traits that are needed for survival, could mean that men could get smaller and women could get bigger. (Black women have always worked since capture from Africa. This de-feminized Black women)

Since popular opinion suggests that we want to pretend that gender doesnt matter, there may be a serious price to pay one day. When examining the hyena, the female hyena is growing a penis while the males penis is shrinking--making it difficult to detect which gender is which without a thorough examination of their genitalia. The female hyena is one of two land mammals that are matriarchal. She no longer needs the male hyena to provide and protect, so nature is taking its course to exchange one gender with the other. Check out the link below to read it for yourself. http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20020427/bob10.asp



Is it possible that this gender reversal can happen within the human race, the Black race? Well its very possible. Black men have loved the stereotype of being well endowed and if natural selection takes place just like with the hyena, then Black men's penis will begin to shrink if something isnt done to re-masculate Black men.



You see in today's time, Black men are confused as to their role in relationships. The Black man wants to acquire all that life has to give, but isnt being motivated properly due to the promotion of the Strong Black Women, who can do everything by herself, which simply makes the Black man (eventually) feel inadequate and be a failure at doing what nature built him to do.



To add insult to injury, the bling-bling media lie tells Black people that if they do their people wrong, they will win and that includes Black women, who are constantly being portrayed as hos and bi-at-ches. After all, Snoop Doggy Dog is an ex-con for selling drugs to his people and 50 cent was shot 9 times, was an ex-drug dealer with a gangsta persona that now has all that life has to offer. Most Black people believe that 50 cent just woke up one day and decided to be a rapper and BAM fame and fortune followed in a matter of weeks. These treasonous fools who are spreading lies about life are simply being used to destroy their own people. Make one rich so to destroy millions is money well spent.



Tell Black men to spend every dollar he earns on meaningless items and White women, and hell do that each and every chance he gets. Meanwhile, tell him if he spends one penny on a Black woman he is a fool and she is a gold digger, and hell believe that even though there are no massive amounts of Black women living well from some Black mans money.



Most Black women live in the ghetto. Most White women live in big houses and are unemployed. I mean damn are they seeing the reality of life or believing the hype?



Believing the hype about the Black gold digger simply stops the recycling of Black dollars and puts the money right back into the mans hands.



The Bling-Bling culture has turned too many Black men into males with feminine traits, who are looking for a woman to take care of them. Wearing more diamonds (in two ears and arent diamonds supposed to be a girls best friend) than women and being more concerned about attire than most women. I even heard Tavis Smiley comment to a male guest on his show, now you like clothes like I do, and out of all the movies you've acted in, which wardrobe would you have liked to own? What Negro? All I could do was change the channel and shake my head and say, you too Tavis?



To learn about what to do about this disturbing trend that falsely labels Black women gold diggers when I don't know of many Black women who are living rich off some Black mans money, you can read my book, Black Women Need Love, too! I know there must be a few, but damn that number must be under 5 percent, which leaves 95 percent that are not winning or receiving a Black man's money for nothing.



Most Black women work to have what they want and its non-Black women with the big houses on the hills, fancy car that her man has bought, and the freedom to spend his hard-earned money on whatever she chooses. This Black gold digger lie is simply put out into the world to de-motivate Black men, which leads to massive failure and under achievement. I bet the Black woman who expects nothing less than the best from her man will have the best or will be alone waiting for her dream husband that doesn't exist.



In reality, we Black women are the ONLY women that accept, love, give to, and have sex with men that have nothing. The proof is all around usthe single Black mother living in the ghetto is the woman that accepts Black men unconditionally.



The lie about the rampant existence of the Black female gold digger must be put to rest. If we don't diffuse this lie, then statistics like this will grow: In highly populated Black communities, the Black male unemployment rate is as high as 75n such cities as Gary Indiana and Milwaukee Wisconsin the high school drop out rate is 85Àeven though the population is growing. We must teach Black young men that their responsibility is to provide and protect the community and their families. Black men are walking around confused about manhood due to lies that are in rap crap music and the lack of the father figure that teaches his son what his responsibilities are as a man.



These are some of the reasons why it is important to spread the message that Black Women Need Love, too! To re-motivate Black men and give them direction to what their duties are as men. In my book, Black Women Need Love, too! Exposing the Conspiracy to Keep Black Women Without Love, I break it down and give techniques, strategies and motivating methods to return Black men to their thrown as Kings for their Queens.



Brothas, if you really believe the Black gold digger is in abundance, then use her as a source of inspiration to achieve and prosper, and not as an excuse to abandon, fail, and hate.



Order your copy today, it could be the most important book you ever read. Black Women Need Love, too! Available on amazon.com



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"In reality, we Black women are the ONLY women that accept, love, give to, and have sex with men that have nothing. The proof is all around us: the single Black mother living in the ghetto is the woman that accepts Black men unconditionally."

I'd like to clarify something else here. This should read: "We, Black Women in the United States", are the only women who will do these things! Black women from the African countries, South America, the islands in the pacific, and even some european countries will not do this!

PS: It's telling that I did not get more responses and that no black men have responded as of yet!
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"In reality, we Black women are the ONLY women that accept, love, give to, and have sex with men that have nothing. The proof is all around us: the single Black mother living in the ghetto is the woman that accepts Black men unconditionally."

PS: It's telling that I did not get more responses and that no black men have responded as of yet!

Interesting, very interesting, herein I had not responded as I don't usually respond to posts such as this. Here I am now responding, perhaps not as "telling" as all that, eh? Nevertheless let me traipse off into this smog filled discourse and its multi-voluminous issues. It is my sincere belief that in a situation wherein neither the Afrikan man nor the Afrikan woman is operating at 100% at all times in all places we must take into account various phenomena. Our sojourn here in the U.S. is not a "normal" outgrowth of our existence on this planet. Our spiritual and psychological development has been retarded and stifled. Under this condition to place a proper evaluation one must take into account, our physical enslavement, torture, rape, loss of children, loss of fertility via rape, and our mental and pschological bruising. We could go on with this but being here at this forum I take into assumption that certain concepts are already clear for you.

I took some time to research the source of this writing and the young lady who is the author writes well for that genre. It reminds me of the type of writing done in which Black Men blame Black Women for their oppression and vice versa! Imagine if you will a crowd of people, someone takes a stone and hides behind a tree, they then toss the stone amidst the crowd. Each member of that group then thinks that they were stricken by the other members. This is chaotic as not one person has questioned from which direction came the stone? We are in this condition and this writing is evident of it. We have not come here of our own volition but I will say it is by our own force of will that we will leave this condition.

Let me summarize this, it is not my position that the Aryan is the cause of our current condition, factually he is the root of the matter. We are the continued causation having, many of us, accepted the symptoms as normal. It is oversimplification of the concepts of what we are dealing with for Black Men to say, "...women are gold diggers..." For as I have seen it she is simply asking that he contribute to the whole of the betterment (is that a word?) of the Black Family. She may be as an underlying, subconscious thought asking for the death of her oppressor from or rather with the help of the Black Man!!! I for one am willing to oblige! These Black Men who use these terms and then the Black Women who believe this and/or accept this "Gold Digger" moniker are operating in a low energy state of existence in my humble opinion. This state of existence is corrected with a proper understanding of the awesome historical role of both genders of our people.

In a state of warfare both parties are going to be needed, this puts this madness to rest,
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The male species is built to be the provider and the protector. On average and on every level that judges what gender is the strongest and the tallest, the male wins hands down. The males major job is to provide and protect his family and his group. ...Females are the natural born nurturer because she alone gives birth to off springs. Due to women being smaller and physically weaker (pound for pound) means that she must lean on a man to provide and protect her.
Besides that the concept that She must "...lean on a man..." As a man I will never teach my daughters that madness. Nzhingha was sufficient, Hatshepsut was sufficient, Maria Stewart was sufficient! My daughters wil understand their worth is not connected to things but the things they can do for their people and for the planet. It is that type of teaching and not this malecentric, Aryan conceptualized tomfoolery that must be delivered!

I expect argumentation, but this is the contested zone, let us be about the contesting!
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Thank you so much Majadi for your response, and thank you 5602 for producing it.
I had not responded before because, as Majadi said, the author is touching a whole lot of dimensions. Some ideas i agree with, and also many things the author presents as facts that i would like to discuss.

The story of the woman having a man that provides for her and the family, loves her and work for her happiness while she takes care of the children and educate them is very nice. I can see how families perfectly worked like that and each member was happy. But i can also see how this kind of structure, while being practical in theory, has also lead us, people from all races and nations, to the malecentrification () of society. When men are the only and total providers of resources and protection, they are also very able to remove these same benefits from the woman when he wants to, as many men have done, before and after any historical event, for it has happened in every culture that has adopted such rigid gender roles.

I am not saying every family following this structure is suffering from chauvinism, but since human beings are not always good by nature, when an adult's survival is so dependant of somebody else, she's too vulnerable.

Also, talkin about history of gender roles. De-feminization of women because they worked during slavery? If the author knew anything about Afrika before colonialism or any other rural place in the world she would know women have always worked in agriculture or anyother area as hard as the men's, and their so called weakness didnt stop them.
I tend to think that only in few places of Afrika, if any, women have traditionally "stayed at home" with the only "duties" of cooking and taking care of the house and children. They didnt work just for the shake of passing time!!! but to provide her family, for survival!

And by the way, i live out of the USA, and i can tell you its not only Black woman in the states that accept a man that has nothing. Thats something happening in other countries to all kinds of women, european, asian and non-northamerican included.

A man that HAS nothing is not the same as a man that DOES nothing. There are a lot of working and honest Black men in the world that would be rejected by a woman with this ideas because they "HAVE" nothing. Many of those called "gold-diggers" have also been mentally affected by the capitalistic influence that has affected Black men according to the author, and are choosing men that HAVE a lot, but DO little. And that's as big a problem.

The author is talkin about her grandmother's times, but men are not the only ones whose attitude and motivations have changed, women's have been affected as much.
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The fake blonde white girls next door...

Black women are gold diggers and yet we have

women like, melania trump, ivana trump,'

and the girls next door (bridget, holly, and kendra)

these women are not with their men because of love, each of

them are or were attached to a man that possessed millions

if not billions of dollars.

We arent stupid you guys, hugh hefner does not have naked

white women around him because they love him,

they strip for him and sell pictures of their titty and pussy

to make money off of him and get money from him.

But noone calls these "white" girls gold-diggers they are

his precious, superior, " holier than thee" girlfriends.

And hugh hefner will put a black woman in playboy every now

and then just to show he's not racist ( yeah right)

and surely if a black woman did that she would be called

a ho or a whore, because its only attractive or cute

or sexy if a white woman is seen showing the world the

roadmap of her vagina and asshole, naked in porn or a magazine.

And if you are black and you do it it means you are

a disease-ridden sex freak with no morals.

But oh, black women are gold diggers, gee something

bright, sunny, and new to bestow upon our self-esteem

and our psyche. The hate-mongering and name calling just

does'nt get any better! So original...
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You all are overlooking the most dominant factor

I have some trouble with this because it lacks a critique of capitalist society, which has destabilized our families over the last fifty years or so. For many people, they kno a greater period of destabilization. But lots of black folks can remember when their grandparents produced strong families by staying together.

We have to look at this because it will explain why so many traditions have not been passed down, why so much behavior is misinterpreted, and how that is part of the violence and self-hatred which has manifested at a deeper level than Stepn Fetchit. Magazines, television and radio have played a bigger role than we have imagined in destabilizing African people and bringing white ideals, values (like beauty and morality) directly into the home.

Todays psychologists dont examine capitalism. They talk about racism, but that is a product of capitalism. Why did our grandparents (well, mine, I'm 52) maintain intact families. Both sides of my family raised big families, but the following generations had weaknesses and divisiveness. My parents didnt stay together. My maternal uncles had a great deal of hostility towards each other and myself, which probably accounts for my aggression. But my maternal grandfather came from a great tradition of organizers and war heroes. Somewhere something snapped.

I dont think I can get anywhere talking with them about it because most of them are gone and the younger ones like my mother really dont have a good grasp of the crucial history. Otherwise I would have heard it. This fragmentation carries over into our generation. The problems I have with each cousins and siblings always starts from something extremely superficial or selfish. Plus, the elders dont maintain standards and values which keep this stuff out of the kinship circle. You can see where television and radio have propagandized them, and disrupted their consciousness.
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Family is important

We must try to keep our families strong.

The devil comes in and the first thing he tries to do

is break a family apart!!

White people fuck their family members in order to keep

their money and their schemes alive.

We don't have to commit incest but we can battle evil with love.
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We must try to keep our families strong.

The devil comes in and the first thing he tries to do

is break a family apart!!

White people fuck their family members in order to keep

their money and their schemes alive.

We don't have to commit incest but we can battle evil with love.

You have a perspective which needs clarity.
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Black women are gold diggers and yet we have

women like, melania trump, ivana trump,'

and the girls next door (bridget, holly, and kendra)

these women are not with their men because of love, each of

them are or were attached to a man that possessed millions

if not billions of dollars.

We arent stupid you guys, hugh hefner does not have naked

white women around him because they love him,

they strip for him and sell pictures of their titty and pussy

to make money off of him and get money from him.

But noone calls these "white" girls gold-diggers they are

his precious, superior, " holier than thee" girlfriends.

And hugh hefner will put a black woman in playboy every now

and then just to show he's not racist ( yeah right)

and surely if a black woman did that she would be called

a ho or a whore, because its only attractive or cute

or sexy if a white woman is seen showing the world the

roadmap of her vagina and asshole, naked in porn or a magazine.

And if you are black and you do it it means you are

a disease-ridden sex freak with no morals.

But oh, black women are gold diggers, gee something

bright, sunny, and new to bestow upon our self-esteem

and our psyche. The hate-mongering and name calling just

does'nt get any better! So original...
I am definitely not going to say that gold diggers are confined to black women because the multitudes of gold digging white and other non-black women are animate and victorious rebuttals to that type of flawed logic. But I will venture so far as to say that we as a culture (my generation anyway) have been predisposed by materialistic influences to seek only that which we can touch, that which glitters.

I hate to reference a cartoon character, but in the banned Boondocks episode that refers to B.E.T. as "Black Evil Television", Rollo Goodlove (Voiced by Cee-Lo) makes a good point : The problem with B.E.T. is that it makes these young kids think that they have to live a life style that they can't afford. I'm not saying that young people should not work towards having the finer things in life, but if you're fifteen years old, living with your parents and have no job, then you don't need to be trying to live like P.Diddy at the expense of their finances (I was that kind of kid). We have to create a culture that is based on hard work like the pre-civil rights black culture, and not one that is based on the psychologically, and by extension, culturally detrimental concept of instant gratification.

What really reels people into that mentality is the ridicule placed upon people who are working towards something. For example, you'll hear a lot of the rappers make fun of guys who are working nine-to-fives or say that you're not a baller if you don't have this and that. Basically saying that you as a black person are nothing if you're not living like them, and so young black men end up thinking that they have to live like that to be eligible, and black women end up believing that those are the only type of men worthy of their time.

But again, this is not a uniquely 'black' problem. A good example is the sea kings of Europe. Some of the nobles would send their sons to become 'sea kings' to make their fortunes by piratical raids because to work the fields or do anything that did not have glory attatched to it was beneath the nobles. By killing and robbing they could still acquire fame and at the same time become rich and this type of mentality is very prevalent today - it's cool to 'hustle', or 'hit licks', but blue collar work has become..looked down upon. I believe Henry Ford nailed it on the head when he said that the idea of "make" has been replaced with "get" and so the gold-digging mentality is really only a counterpart to that mentality.

I believe that feminism also has to be taken into account because the feminist movement has had a great deal to do with the transformation of American women in general. I'm not saying that all women need to be stay-at-home mothers (That is not ideal in this economy) and should not have any aspirations but we need to thoroughly analyze the effects that it has had on our women.
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Let me add this as hopefully a final word.....there is no "The Truth about" when it comes to Afrikan Women, she is "The Truth"!
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"In reality, we Black women are the ONLY women that accept, love, give to, and have sex with men that have nothing. The proof is all around us: the single Black mother living in the ghetto is the woman that accepts Black men unconditionally."

I'd like to clarify something else here. This should read: "We, Black Women in the United States", are the only women who will do these things! Black women from the African countries, South America, the islands in the pacific, and even some european countries will not do this!

PS: It's telling that I did not get more responses and that no black men have responded as of yet!
Here is an interesting video I found on youtube which kinda explains the response above.



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Yes, Holy One, everything except the Goddess, The Queen, The Revolutionary, The Supreme Being. Unfortunately everything except for what you all are! If I am the last Afrikan Man on the planet praising your name, my last breath will be.....I Love Black Women!!!
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Yes, Holy One, everything except the Goddess, The Queen, The Revolutionary, The Supreme Being. Unfortunately everything except for what you all are! If I am the last Afrikan Man on the planet praising your name, my last breath will be.....I Love Black Women!!!
awww...Bro. Majadi...lol.

its so awkward, to me. Black women have been through so much, and brothers like to take disrespect toward a woman lightly, still.
brothers like to use the lame excuse that its in his nature to like women, even to the point of looking at her like some object....therefor treating her like an object....less than a human being that she is.

its a struggle, and as I am becoming more aware of myself, reading a few books and articles on feminism and the oppression of women coupled with what we know about African history, well.....oppression of women is implied when just calling myself a woman. Man, as a term, is accepted universally, while woman, as a term, is very distinguished and discriminate.

We need to go back to the first chapters of How Europe Under-Developed Africa. When Walter Rodney talks simply about how two People can develop just fine, the only thing that stops it...is when one oppresses the other. And just as it is applied to nationalities, it finds a comfortable place with gender.

Its one of those struggles, Bro. Majadi.... we need to organize ourselves and raise the consciousness of our brothers AND sisters.
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