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      are Africans in amerikkka suffering from "stockholm syndrome"?


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      I'm posting this thread in the "African Holistic Health" forum because of it being a matter of our psychological health. While I was deeply contemplating our status in amerikkka (prisoners of war), I started to question why it was so difficult for us to recognize this fact. Then it hit me. I remembered something I came across once in the area of psychology called "stockholm syndrome" and I did a little research on it. To make a long story short, I have become CONVINCED that this is the case for Africans in amerikkka. I'm about to put together an informational brochure that explores this angle of the African experience in amerikkka (don't know if I got the "juice" to write an entire book on the subject). Anyways, here's a little information about stockholm syndrome. Just something to think about.

      "STOCKHOLM SYNDROME"

      Stockholm Syndrome describes the behavior of kidnap victims who, over time, become sympathetic to their captors. The name derives from a 1973 hostage incident in Stockholm, Sweden. At the end of six days of captivity in a bank, several kidnap victims actually resisted rescue attempts, and afterwards refused to testify against their captors.
      While some people are suggesting the recent Elizabeth Smart kidnapping sounds like a case of Stockholm Syndrome, the most famous incident in the U.S. involved the kidnapped heiress Patty Hearst. Captured by a radical political group known as the Symbionese Liberation Army in 1974, Ms. Hearst eventually became an accomplice of the group, taking on an assumed name and assisting them in several bank robberies. After her re-capture, she denounced the group and her involvement.

      What causes Stockholm Syndrome? Captives begin to identify with their captors initially as a defensive mechanism, out of fear of violence. Small acts of kindness by the captor are magnified, since finding perspective in a hostage situation is by definition impossible. Rescue attempts are also seen as a threat, since it's likely the captive would be injured during such attempts.

      It's important to note that these symptoms occur under tremendous emotional and often physical duress. The behavior is considered a common survival strategy for victims of interpersonal abuse, and has been observed in battered spouses, abused children, prisoners of war, and concentration camp survivors.

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      Also...before anybody jumps on my back about it...I don't believe that Patty Hearst was a victim of stockholm syndrome...I believe she was down with the SLA from the giddyup.

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      Africans Lost in Amerikkka


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      Yes , all of us , " Africans Lost in Amerikkka ," ( a phrase employed by Elaine Brown , the only female to serve as leader of the Black Panther Party) , suffer from the maladies associated with the stockholm syndrome . Some of us more than others . Rebelafrika , my favorite quote of Kwame Ture is , " Every courthouse in Amerikkka should be burned to the ground ! "
      " Wherever death may surprise us , let it be welcome , provided that this , our battle cry , may have reached some receptive ear and another hand may be extended to wield our weapons and other men be ready to intone the funeral dirge with the staccato singing of the machine guns and new battle cries of war and victory " CHE

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      Quote Originally Posted by Burningspear
      Yes , all of us , " Africans Lost in Amerikkka ," ( a phrase employed by Elaine Brown , the only female to serve as leader of the Black Panther Party) , suffer from the maladies associated with the stockholm syndrome . Some of us more than others . Rebelafrika , my favorite quote of Kwame Ture is , " Every courthouse in Amerikkka should be burned to the ground ! "
      That's a good quote, LOL!!! Kwame has some gems when it comes to quotes. Besides the one I quote as my signiture, I also like when he says...

      Our history in amerikkka can be summed up in one sentence..."They went from burning down plantations to burning down cities"...tommorrow we'll burn down this nation!

      and also...

      Capitalism doesn't lie "SOME" of the time...it's lies "ALL" of the time. When it tells the truth, it's the result of a DOUBLE LIE.

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      re-uppin' this...because I believe this today now more than ever!

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      I definitely agree that we suffer from this, and that it has gotten worse over the decades Our people want to identify themselves with the oppressor more than ever, with everything they do!

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      Quote Originally Posted by rebelAfrika View Post
      I'm posting this thread in the "African Holistic Health" forum because of it being a matter of our psychological health. While I was deeply contemplating our status in amerikkka (prisoners of war), I started to question why it was so difficult for us to recognize this fact. Then it hit me. I remembered something I came across once in the area of psychology called "stockholm syndrome" and I did a little research on it. To make a long story short, I have become CONVINCED that this is the case for Africans in amerikkka. I'm about to put together an informational brochure that explores this angle of the African experience in amerikkka (don't know if I got the "juice" to write an entire book on the subject). Anyways, here's a little information about stockholm syndrome. Just something to think about.

      "STOCKHOLM SYNDROME"

      Stockholm Syndrome describes the behavior of kidnap victims who, over time, become sympathetic to their captors. The name derives from a 1973 hostage incident in Stockholm, Sweden. At the end of six days of captivity in a bank, several kidnap victims actually resisted rescue attempts, and afterwards refused to testify against their captors.
      While some people are suggesting the recent Elizabeth Smart kidnapping sounds like a case of Stockholm Syndrome, the most famous incident in the U.S. involved the kidnapped heiress Patty Hearst. Captured by a radical political group known as the Symbionese Liberation Army in 1974, Ms. Hearst eventually became an accomplice of the group, taking on an assumed name and assisting them in several bank robberies. After her re-capture, she denounced the group and her involvement.

      What causes Stockholm Syndrome? Captives begin to identify with their captors initially as a defensive mechanism, out of fear of violence. Small acts of kindness by the captor are magnified, since finding perspective in a hostage situation is by definition impossible. Rescue attempts are also seen as a threat, since it's likely the captive would be injured during such attempts.

      It's important to note that these symptoms occur under tremendous emotional and often physical duress. The behavior is considered a common survival strategy for victims of interpersonal abuse, and has been observed in battered spouses, abused children, prisoners of war, and concentration camp survivors.

      DAMNNNNN how did I miss this tasty topic?
      Hell YES we got Stockholm syndrome. If we didn't, there would be a war going on right now. All the shyt that our ancestors put up with and here we are today, shucking and jiving, skinnin and grinnin even turning our backs on each other, to make ourselves look better to "them".
      We "pity" our oppressors; "rationalizing" that "All of them ain't bad...ain't THEIR fault..." Or my favorite- "He/she never called me N*****, so she cool." (Most of the time, the ones who will bring you the most harm are the covert racists) Ok, that may or may not be the case, but when we are oppressed and not doing anything to those that are oppressing us...there is a problem. Too bad I can't get out exactly what I wanna say...so let me brood on this some more.

      PS- Where that pamphlet at?
      ~Insert profound statement here~

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      Quote Originally Posted by Draptomania View Post
      DAMNNNNN how did I miss this tasty topic?
      Hell YES we got Stockholm syndrome. If we didn't, there would be a war going on right now. All the shyt that our ancestors put up with and here we are today, shucking and jiving, skinnin and grinnin even turning our backs on each other, to make ourselves look better to "them".
      We "pity" our oppressors; "rationalizing" that "All of them ain't bad...ain't THEIR fault..." Or my favorite- "He/she never called me N*****, so she cool." (Most of the time, the ones who will bring you the most harm are the covert racists) Ok, that may or may not be the case, but when we are oppressed and not doing anything to those that are oppressing us...there is a problem. Too bad I can't get out exactly what I wanna say...so let me brood on this some more.

      PS- Where that pamphlet at?
      LOL!!! Look at the date on when I first wrote that too!!! LMAO!!! It's a damn shame I aint wrote the pamphlet yet, LMAO!!! I think this is the first thing I ever wrote (when I first came to the Assata forums) in the African Holistic Health section.

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      You are right about one thing for sure Brother Rebel; Patty Hearst never did suffer the Stockholm syndrome, regardless of what her motivations were. And this syndrome is always used to attempt to explain away seemingly bizarre behavior amongst whites (especially with money) that reject their parents’, or families’ wealth, class, and social status as when they align themselves with the social underclass, radical people of color, or some very non-traditional or cult-like religion.

      As far as the question, I would go even further and say ALL AFRICANS worldwide suffer from some pathological illness similar to Stockholm syndrome! For as it’s been said many years ago, there are many post-colonial Africans in the continent that have become “more British than the British, and more French than the French.”


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      Interesting. A defense mechanism that has now become detrimental to our survival and flourishing. Interesting indeed. I'm going to have to look deeper into this.
      "Oh Africa! When shall be the term of thy long degradation? Behold here, even now, I pledge thee, O my Mother, that I shall devote my years to thee, shall work for thy redemption, shall love thee and be proud of thee and glory in thy power now lying dormant and shall strive to bring it to the light. Take my youth, my labors, my love, my all and do thou when I shall have died for thee, take me to thy bosom, an untamed, untamable African." -Hubert Harrison

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      isn't this post a coincidence? I'm surfing the threads and come across this stockholm syndrome thread at the same time that I'm listening to Dick Gregory on the Bev Smith show talk about how we africans in america are suffering from this illness for 400 years and don't even know it. dick gregory is said something like yes'sa boss. whatever you feel I feel boss.

      peace

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      Greetings Everyone!

      Afrikans in the amerikkkas are not only suffering from "stockholm syndrome"
      we are still in a coma and need to wake up. A lot more of us are becoming
      more conscious every day and are taking positive steps towards our liberation.
      With that said still far too many of our people are just unmotivated to do anything
      to help themselves get liberated.

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      We Are Suffering From Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome


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      We are suffering from Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome. So many of us have been brainwashed into thinking that everything Eurocentric is superior and everything Afrocentric is inferior. Dr. Joy DeGruy Leary wrote a very informative and thought provoking book about this subject entitled "Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome."

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      Call it what you will be many of our people suffer something that keeps us following up with this BS...

      Very interesting info.
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      But we are young and Black, fearless and free...
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      I've always been fascinated by the "stockholm syndrome" experienced by hostages.
      Florence Aubenas, a french reporter who has been captured in January 2005 in Irak and held hostage for several months has explained when liberated how confused she was to progressively feel empathy & sympathy for those who held her captive in dramatic conditions, and who have threatened her life daily with mock-executions. She even said that on her release day on June 12th after 157 days of captivity and seclusion she has strangely enough felt sort of sadness to leave her kidnappers.
      This experience has also been told by FARC hostages..!
      It's crazy how complex and irrational human mind can be, to make one feel compassion or excuse the very people who're oppressing you!

      "I would go even further and say ALL AFRICANS worldwide suffer from some pathological illness similar to Stockholm syndrome!"

      I utterly agree with this statement made by warrior Sun Ship! You can see that in every corner of the earth where kemit people dwells !

      Not only are we affected by "stockholm syndrome" but by "post traumatic slave syndrome", by "post traumatic colonialized syndrome", by "immigration traumatic syndrome", by brainwashing and mind control too!
      A core of diseases that we must,in our mighty struggle, help our affected bothers & sisters cure once for all by listening, teaching, sharing & explaining !

      And no matter what game they play
      We got something they could never take away
      And it's the fire (fire), it's the fire (fire)
      That's burning down everything
      Feel that fire (fire), the fire (fire)
      No water could put out this fire (fire)



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