Chavez calls ethanol production 'crime'

[Jahness]

Chavez calls ethanol production 'crime'


Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez says a U.S. push to boost ethanol production during a world food crisis is a "crime."

The socialist leader says he is concerned that so much U.S.-produced corn could be used to make biofuel, instead of feeding the world's poor.

Chavez said Saturday that the corn needed to fill an average car with ethanol would be enough to feed seven people for a year.

Venezuela has pledged to donate more than 350 metric tons (385 U.S. tons) of food to Haiti, where soaring food prices provoked deadly riots earlier this month.

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[Jahness]

Food scientists say stop biofuels to
fight world hunger

By SETH BORENSTEIN,
AP Science Writer


Some top international food scientists Tuesday recommended halting the use of food-based biofuels, such as ethanol, saying it would cut corn prices by 20 percent during a world food crisis.

But even as the scientists were calling for a moratorium, President Bush urged the opposite. He declared the United States should increase ethanol use because of national energy security and high gas prices.

The conflicting messages Tuesday highlighted the ongoing debate over food and fuel needs.

The three senior scientists with an international research consortium pushing a biofuel moratorium said nations need to rethink programs that divert food such as corn and soybeans into fuel, given the burgeoning worldwide food crisis. The group, CGIAR, is a global network that uses science to fight hunger. It is funded by dozens of countries and private foundations.

If leading nations stopped biofuel use this year, it would lead to a price decline in corn by about 20 percent and wheat by about 10 percent from 2009-10, said Joachim von Braun. He heads the International Food Policy Research Institute in Washington, the policy arm of CGIAR. The United States is the biggest biofuel producer.

He and the other scientists said work should be stepped up on the use of non-grain crops, such as switchgrass, for biofuel.

Another scientist, not associated with the group, agreed with their call for a halt on the use of grain for fuel.

"We need to feed the stomach before we need to feed our cars," said Rattan Lal, an Ohio State University soil sciences professor who in the past has been a critic of some of CGIAR's priorities. "We have 1 billion people who are food insecure. We can't afford the luxury of not taking care of them and taking care of gasoline."

In an interview after the CGIAR teleconference, von Braun said the United States and other countries have to make a hard choice between fighting high fuel prices and fighting world hunger.

"If you place a high value of food security for poor people, then the conclusion is clear that we step on the brake awhile," said von Braun. "If you place a high value on national energy security, other considerations come into play."

Energy security is what Bush emphasized in his press conference. When asked about the conflict with world hunger and the rising cost of food at home, he said the high price of gasoline would "spur more investment in ethanol as an alternative to gasoline.

"And the truth of the matter is, it's in our national interest that our farmers grow energy, as opposed to us purchasing energy from parts of the world that are unstable or may not like us," Bush said.

Still, Bush said the international food crisis "is of concern to us" and said the U.S. government earlier this month added another $200 million in food aid.

A World Bank study has estimated that corn prices "rose by over 60 percent from 2005-07, largely because of the U.S. ethanol program" combined with market forces.

Other nations, such as South Africa, have stopped or slowed the push to ethanol. But because the United States is the biggest producer, if it does nothing, other nations' efforts will not amount to much, von Braun said.

Von Braun said many issues are causing the food crisis, especially market forces and speculation, but that biofuel use also ranks high among the causes.

Scientists say the diversion of corn and soybeans for fuel helps force prices higher, and removes farm land from food production. Ethanol supporters say the corn used for fuels is the type only fed to livestock. However, other experts say it leads to higher livestock feed prices, thus higher food prices.

Because of this issue, legislators in Missouri are considering lifting a requirement that fuel in that state contain 10 percent ethanol.

Just how big biofuel's effect is on food prices depends on who is talking. President Bush said it's responsible for about 15 percent of the rise in costs. U.S. Department of Agriculture spokesman Keith Williams put it closer to 20 percent.

A soon to be released International Food Policy Research Institute analysis blames 30 percent of the overall food price rise from 2000-2007 on biofuels. An industry-funded study put the food cost rise from biofuels at 4 percent.

Matt Hartwig, a spokesman for the Renewable Fuels Association, said, "World agriculture can both feed and fuel the globe."

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On the Net:

International Food Policy Research Institute on food prices:

http://www.ifpri.org/themes/foodprices/foodprices.asp

The World Bank on biofuels' promise and risk: http://tinyurl.com/5668pu

The White House transcript of President Bush's press conference: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0080429-1.html

The Renewable Fuels Association: http://www.ethanolrfa.org/

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[Moorbey]

This one is not all that hard to figure out but that would be to easy for them to do since yt is populaion control mode at the present time.What an easy way to get it started then a food crisis and rice shortage..

[Jahness]

Originally Posted by bigdaddiej

This one is not all that hard to figure out but that would be to easy for them to do since yt is populaion control mode at the present time.What an easy way to get it started then a food crisis and rice shortage..

Greetings bigdaddiej!

It is not a hard one to figure out true indeed. They really use anyway they can to create issues around the world as a way to keep the masses dependent, terrified and suffering.

Peace & Blessings!

[Sun Ship]

I just commented on this whole corn for ethanol dilemma in another thread, and like I said, it’s all about the money.

It’s almost a catch 22, for the corn industry has dominated the food industry and so many unhealthy processed foods are corn-based, and this has replaced all the nutritional varieties of “real” and natural unprocessed foods that we need in our overall diet. With this being the case, corn has put itself at the center stage of controlling the food and energy market, which is effecting other food prices and production across the board as it drives up the price.

Corn wasn’t chosen as being the best alternative fuel as much as it was probably chosen for its profit margin by the powerful agricultural lobby.

[Jahness]

Originally Posted by Sun Ship

I just commented on this whole corn for ethanol dilemma in another thread, and like I said, it’s all about the money.

It’s almost a catch 22, for the corn industry has dominated the food industry and so many unhealthy processed foods are corn-based, and this has replaced all the nutritional varieties of “real” and natural unprocessed foods that we need in our overall diet. With this being the case, corn has put itself at the center stage of controlling the food and energy market, which is effecting other food prices and production across the board as it drives up the price.

Corn wasn’t chosen as being the best alternative fuel as much as it was probably chosen for its profit margin by the powerful agricultural lobby.

Greetings SunShip!

I have to agree with your comments specifically speaking to this fact that indeed "Corn wasn’t chosen as being the best alternative fuel as much as it was probably chosen for its profit margin by the powerful agricultural lobby". You speak the truth as it needs to be told warrior, plain and simple.

This is the ways that people of the world have to understand how they are being played and manipulated. It is no coincidence that we now have such highly elevated gas prices, and food shortages globally. It was specifically calculated by the oppressive powers that be. They want total control of the world and it's peoples for their bidding and purpose of dependency for a lifetime. Take away peoples food and mode of transportation and you have them under your command for as long as you want.

If people cannot travel, keep their homes warm and have food, not to mention all the other necessities that are very dependent on the price of oil, then they are in very serious distress one way or the next.

Much appreciation to you warrior for your valuable comments.

Peace & blessings!