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West Bank Situation Hamas: We will win war in Gaza By Shane Bauer in Damascus Abu Marzouq insists Hamas will win the war against Israel Israel's war on Gaza has left more than 700 Palestinians dead - nearly a third of them women and children - and more than 3,000 injured. But at the organisation's headquarters in Damascus, 100km from the territory, Musa Abu Marzouq, the deputy head of Hamas' political bureau, told Al Jazeera why he believes his organisation is on the verge of victory against Israel. Al Jazeera: Under what conditions will Hamas agree a ceasefire with Israel? Abu Marzouq: We have three conditions for any peace initiative coming from any state. First, the aggression of the Israelis should stop. All of the gates should be opened, including the gate of Rafah between the Gaza Strip and Egypt. Finally, Israel has to withdraw from the Gaza Strip. We are not saying we will stop firing rockets from the Gaza Strip to Israel - we are only talking about stopping the aggression from the Israelis against the civilian population in the Gaza Strip. When others talk about a ceasefire, they are saying all military operations should stop. But we are sending a message [by firing rockets]: "We will not surrender. We have to fight the Israelis and we will win this battle." We know we are going to lose a lot of people from our side, but we are going to win, inshallah. Members of Hamas have said that Israel is using collective punishment by targeting civilians who support Hamas. But is Hamas' targeting of Israeli civilians also not a type of collective punishment? We are defending ourselves. When you talk about any occupation, people should resist the soldiers and the army who occupy their country. We don't have weapons sophisticated enough to launch at exact targets. We are sending a message: "You can't provide security to your side until you bring security to the Palestinian side." We are looking for freedom and for security for the Palestinian people. This is our message to Israel. They need to understand that we are working for an independent state. How do you think Israel's war on Gaza will affect Hamas' position? The Israeli push against Hamas has increased our popularity sharply among the Palestinian people and throughout the Muslim world. After the Israelis killed Hamas leaders like Ahmed Yassin and Ismail Abu Shanab, Hamas won the elections with 76 seats out of a 132-seat parliament. Using these means doesn't decrease the popularity of Hamas, it increases it. What exactly would you consider to be "victory" for Hamas? A victory for Hamas would mean the Israelis did not accomplish their objectives. If they can't stop rockets from coming into Israel, that means they failed. But the real reason for Israel's aggression is to change the Hamas government in the Gaza Strip - they have been thinking about this since Hamas won the elections - it is not because of the rockets. They failed to lead the people in an uprising against Hamas in the Gaza Strip with their economic embargo. They tried to push Fatah to stand and fight Hamas, but we defeated them in the Gaza Strip, so the Israelis have taken action themselves. Why, at the beginning of this conflict, did Hamas decide not to renew the six-month ceasefire? We agreed to this ceasefire under Egyptian mediation with certain conditions. All military operations were to be stopped by June 19. All of the six gates between Israel and Gaza were to remain open. In the first 10 days of the truce, 30 per cent of the goods coming from Israel to the Gaza Strip were to be allowed in and, after that 10-day period, all supplies were to be allowed to enter. Also, there was to be a meeting between the Europeans, Egyptians, the Palestinian Authority and Hamas to discuss how to open the Rafah gate. Finally, the ceasefire was supposed to be extended to the West Bank. During those six months, the Israelis kept the border crossings closed most of the time. Only 15 per cent of goods were allowed to enter the Gaza Strip from Israel. They killed more than 40 people in the last month of the ceasefire, eight of which were in the last week. On many occasions, the Egyptians told us that the Israelis were not respecting the agreement. Their refusal to allow supplies to enter was a type of slow killing of the Palestinians. The Palestinians eventually asked: "What is the use of this ceasefire for us?" For that reason, we didn't renew that agreement. Khalid Meshaal, the leader of Hamas, in December called for a "military intifada against the Zionist enemy" and as a "peaceful intifada internally". What did he mean by an internal peaceful intifada? I think he meant that there needs to be internal change among the Palestinians. Right now the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank controls everything. This is not acceptable. We need to peacefully change these conditions. How are relations between Hamas and Fatah now? Now the priority for Hamas, Fatah or any Palestinian organisation is to stand against the Israeli aggression. After we finish with this battle, I guess we can talk about reconciliation or reuniting with Fatah. We openly welcome any kind of negotiation or dialogue between Fatah and Hamas to end the separation of the Palestinians. When French president Nicolas Sarkozy met with Syrian president Bahsar al-Assad, many said he tried to encourage Damascus to put pressure on Hamas to stop firing rockets. Have you faced any kind of pressure from Syria? We haven't seen any pressure from Syria. They respect our independence. They respect our choices. They respect the policies we chose for our people. Has Hamas had any contact with the administration of Barack Obama, the US president-elect? No, we haven't had any direct contact. Do you have any expectations regarding the approach of Hillary Clinton, the US nominee-designate for the post of US secretary of state? We cannot evaluate something that lies in the future. We know that in the US senate, Hillary Clinton's vote was always with Israel, but maybe there will be some differences when she becomes secretary of state. Source: Al Jazeera Israel 'shelled Gaza civilians' The Red Cross has criticised Israel for allegedly preventing access to the wounded The United Nations has said it has received reports that about 30 Palestinians were killed when Israeli forces shelled a house after they had moved about 110 civilians inside it. "According to several testimonies, on 4 January Israeli foot soldiers evacuated approximately 110 Palestinians into a single-residence house in Zeitun, warning them to stay indoors," the UN report said on Friday. "Twenty-four hours later, Israeli forces shelled the home repeatedly, killing approximately 30." The incident took place on Monday in the Zeitun neighbourhood of Gaza City on Monday, the report said. The UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) called it "one of the gravest incidents since the beginning of operations" by Israeli forces in Gaza on December 27. "Those who survived and were able walked two kilometres to Salah Ed Din road before being transported to hospital in civilian vehicles," OCHA said. "Three children, the youngest of whom was five months old, died upon arrival at the hospital." The Israeli military said on Friday that it had no knowledge of the incident. Wounded wait The Israeli B'Tselem human rights group quoted Meysa Fawzi al Samuni, a 19-year-old resident, as saying that soldiers forced her and dozens of others to move into the warehouse-like home of another resident before the attack. "As far as I know, the dead and wounded who were under the ruins are still there," B'Tselem quoted her as saying. Ibrahim Samouni, a 13-year-old boy who was wounded in the leg and chest, told the Reuters news agency that he kept his three younger brothers alive and tried to help the injured adults lying among the dead after his mother was killed in the incident. "There was no water, no bread, nothing to eat," he said. "Abu Salah died, his wife died. Abu Tawfiq died, his son died, his wife also died. Mohammed Ibrahim died, and his mother died. Ishaq died and Nasar died. The wife of Nael Samouni died. Many people died." Emergency workers from the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and the Palestinian Red Crescent said they were not able to reach the wounded for four days because Israel would not allow them safe passage. They said the children were starving when rescuers finally reached them after the "unacceptable" delay. "They were too weak to stand up on their own. One man was also found alive, too weak to stand up. In all there were at least 12 corpses lying on mattresses," the ICRC said. Civilian casualties Pierre Wettach, the ICRC chief for Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories, said: "The Israeli military must have been aware of the situation but did not assist the wounded. "Neither did they make it possible for us or the Palestinian Red Crescent to assist the wounded." Israel has repreatedly insisted it has tried to avert civilian casualties during its two-week aerial and ground assault on the territory. "From initial checking, we don't have knowledge of this incident. We started an inquiry but we still don't know about it," Avital Leibovich, an Israeli military spokeswoman, said about the reported shelling incident. More than 780 people, including at least 257 children and 56 women, have been killed during Israel's aerial bombardment and ground offensive, the UN has said. Source: Al Jazeera and agencies Wednesday, January 07, 2009 08:46 Mecca time, 05:46 GMT West Bank despair over Gaza assault By Rachel Shabi in Ramallah "It is so much more than disappointment," explains Abir, a Gazan now living in the West Bank city of Ramallah. "In my worst nightmares I never imagined that Gaza would literally be slaughtered and the West Bank would be quiet." While protests against the Israeli assaults on Gaza have surged across the world in the past week, Ramallah - the demonstration capital of the West Bank - has been relatively quiet. At one point, a protest in Tel Aviv drew 10,000 people while a demonstration in Ramallah the day before drew a fraction of that number. It is not that residents of Ramallah are indifferent to the bombardment in Gaza. "All the people, all day, are watching what is happening in Gaza and thinking about it and asking why," says Manal Mustafa, a 26-year-old from Ramallah. "In our homes, we are watching 24-hour TV." Voiceless Some West Bank Palestinians say they feel ineffectual and that their protests are pointless. "We can do nothing," says 23-year-old Hiba. "We just sit in our houses and pray." Her friend, 17-year-old Mirna, agrees. "Our voices don't count," she says. "We can scream and scream about it and no-one will listen to us." Others say that it is Palestinian Authority policing of demonstrations that has put people off publically showing solidarity with Gaza. "We think that the PA is trying to keep control of everything," says one 18-year-old member of a Fatah youth organisation. "They worry that if we demonstrate in support for Gaza, we will attack the PA and they are afraid of that." Two men from Jenin agree. "It's clear that the PA wants to keep everything calm and prevents people from demonstrating," says one. "I am so ashamed and angry that we cannot show our solidarity with Gaza. It doesn't mean that we support Hamas - but in the end we are all the same nation, and what happens to them also happens to us." Palestinian Authority control Participants in a demonstration in Ramallah's Manara square last Friday say that a group of Hamas flag-wavers were swiftly corralled and arrested by PA police, some in plain-clothing. Others angrily point out that all attempts to demonstrate at Israeli checkpoints have been curtailed by PA forces, while yesterday a student protest at Bir Zeit university resulted in several injuries after stringent policing. A spokesman for the PA's interior ministry says that the aim is not to dissuade protest. "There have been a lot of demonstrations in all the cities of the West Bank," he says. "Nothing has prevented any of the demonstrators from expressing themselves clearly against Israeli aggression and the massacres perpetrated in Gaza." The PA wants to show Palestinian unity, he adds, which is why both Fatah and Hamas flags have been discouraged. The authorities are anxious to avert confrontation with Israeli security forces in the West Bank. "We are not at peace with the Israelis - we are still under occupation," he says. "But we don't want to open another front in the West Bank against the Israelis. This is not our purpose and not our policy." Cyber war But if Palestinians are not demonstrating in their thousands, they are showing support and solidarity with Gaza in other ways - using new technology to arrange actions and initiatives. Widely circulated emails provide Gaza area phone codes and encourage West Bank Palestinians to randomly phone numbers to contact and support Gazans. The phone number that the Israeli army text-messaged to Gazans asking for information about Hamas is sent to West Bank mobiles, with the request to jam the line with threats and hoax calls. Email boxes are crammed with requests from West Bank aid organisations that are desperately trying to get medical and food supplies into Gaza. Supporting resistance Some Palestinians in Ramallah are angry with Hamas. "They are responsible for what is happening in Gaza, they didn't renew the ceasefire with Israel," says 44-year-old Abel Aziz from a village near Ramallah. But some of those who did not back Hamas before the Israeli attacks on Gaza are now behind them. "We support anyone who is a member of the resistance," says one man. "We didn't support Hamas before, but now we have to - it is our obligation." Another man, 50-year-old Abu Thayer, puts it another way. "I am against killing in principle, of Palestinians or of Jews," he says. "Now we are watching Palestinian kids being killed on the television and it hurts," he says. "I support my people - and Hamas is part of my people." Source: Al Jazeera
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