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{I don't know how to recapture past posts re Homosexuality & The Effeminization of Afrikan Males. This is an added posts taken from last chpt of the book: A TRADTION OF WARRORS and SCHOLARS. Study, learn and use.}
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"Afrikan homosexuality and effeminacy are absolute forms of vanquishment. The individuals exhibiting these thoughts and behaviors are living casualties of war. Consciously or in ignorance, the individuals involved have experienced a total mental breakdown and makeover. It is a severe form of 'cultural misorientation' which requires an equally, if not greater, immersion in a cultural reorientation for correction.
....."Since we are at war, we require soldiers who see themselves as Afrikan men and women, not simply males and females who remeain desperately loyal to a newfangled global European humanity.

..........'Nationbuilding must be understood as a process of reconnection and continuity. Nationbuilding does not start with a blank slate. Nationbuilding is not about creating a 'new' man or a 'new' cultural reality using eclectic cultural and ideological borrowings from a panoramic variety of cultural formations and philosophies. For us, nationbuilding is an intergenerational process of progressive but intense denuding ourselves of multi-generational layers of alien values and thinking, and the progressive adoption and immersion of ourselves in the culture and the work of rebuilding.'(1)

"Therefore, warrors must be recruited from those who are willing and able to do mental and physical battle with a known, ruthless enemy. The mentally and physically effete have no place fighting on the lines, handling operations or munitions, in leadership positions or guarding the rear in any of our wars of liberation. Warriors must know who they are, as well as who their enemy is. Unquestionably, a reAfrikanization of our manhood is required of Afrikan men in order for our community to exercise an Afrikan centered power. Unlike those who want to intellectualize their history without confronting the European, Afrikan warrior scholars must know the violent and antagonistic historical relationship between Europeans and Afrikans on this planet.

'To identify the enemy is to free the mind.'(2)
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1. Kwame Ageyei and Akua Nson Akoto, THE SANKOFA MOVEMENT: ReAfrikanization and the Reality of War, DC?)yoko InfoCom Inc, 1999, pp.72-73.
2. Mari Evans
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I'm new to the forum, so you'll have to forgive me for not being familiar with the argument that homosexuality is European. How is that?

And what does it mean for someone to "see themself as a man" or for someone to "see themself as a woman?" Who defines this? How is seeing ourselves as men and women tied to our sexual orientation (i.e., who we're attracted to)? And, furthermore, why is seeing ourselves as men and women necessary for the struggle? Doesn't this distract us from what unites us and what we're trying to achieve? Besides, what purpose does gender identity serve other than assigning to us gender roles, roles which can be oppressive?
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I'm new to the forum, so you'll have to forgive me for not being familiar with the argument that homosexuality is European. How is that?

And what does it mean for someone to "see themself as a man" or for someone to "see themself as a woman?" Who defines this? How is seeing ourselves as men and women tied to our sexual orientation (i.e., who we're attracted to)? And, furthermore, why is seeing ourselves as men and women necessary for the struggle? Doesn't this distract us from what unites us and what we're trying to achieve? Besides, what purpose does gender identity serve other than assigning to us gender roles, roles which can be oppressive?
again welcome, cornerkick

a short background update: this thread is inspired by a book: HOMOSEXUALITY and the EFFEMINIZATION OF AFRIKAN MALES. The original intent was to sorta pump brutha Mwalimu K. N. Bomani's writings which range wider than the recent explosion of Homosexuals' political agenda that is oft times hook'd onto Black struggles.

U ask a wide ranging few questions; some may be answered if u ck the beginning posts I've put here; some in Baba Speaks, a few in Open Forums. I think there's a link to all my posts. Ck & read'em... then return w/your questions. I'm sure someone will deal with them. Basically I'm simply a relay man; i.e., relaying what many of our learned said or wrote.

Like most posts I submit, the aims are at a system of thought and behavior, labeled European Cultural Thought and Behavior(s), per Eurocentrism...

Hope this helps; for unlike most here, I painfully try to avoid debates. My purpose here or any other forum is to stimulate my people to do what's called a SANKOFA trip; to study OurStories; to see what were useful input in our ancient glories and to note causes of our extensive and devastating defeats; to select & apply to myself and family first, in unromantic fashion preparing 24/7 to help in our peoples' re-awakening, revitalization and recaptures of our status as a people at home and abroad.

One thing further, a serious study of OurStories, which can not be separated from Caucasian, Old & New European stories, can highlight how eurocentric thought patterns and cultural ways are all up in many of our so-called educated Afrikans' thought and behaviors of today. And thus contribute to European Hegemony...

I'm implying that our minds need purification of a sort in order to be clear on who we be: Afrikan or not.

Thanks for your interest... oh I suggest that if u wanna begin a debate on anything posted re this subject, start a thread maybe in the Open Forum; i'm sure u'll attract differing view points to discuss and argue about.

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I'm new to the forum, so you'll have to forgive me for not being familiar with the argument that homosexuality is European. How is that?
I overlook'd this question; but the reply remains: read the posts of mine; they show historical evidences, pre-dating even Grecian sicknesses... Greeks just organized and gave it, to the unwary, a "civilized" look.
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I had tried searching for these earlier posts before replying to your post, but for some reason, I can't view anything that was posted more than a week ago, despite selecting "show all threads" in my control panel. Is this related to the problems the website was experiencing a while ago?

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2nd option: buy the book; its self published goto: www.akobenhouse.com

and if u want lil background on the brutha, key into google.com name Larry Crawford

he nor his wife are teaching at morehouse any longer they now operate a "home school" named Akoben. I mention this to indicate that they do more than write and publish books articles and essays. They both resigned Morehouse teaching positions as professors to dedicate themselves to b n examples for and teaching our youth. They like me know that the public schools do not operate to teach our youth to be Afrikan or anything else except tools to maintain euro/amerikkkan dominances.

Their daughter graduated through their shula last year. Now she's teaching at another Afrikan centered shula: Imhotep in Atlanta; she's 18.
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