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A PLEDGE, beyond Class, Religion, Ideology

A PLEDGE, beyond Class, Religion, Ideology

IN EVERLASTING MEMORY


OF THE ANGUISH OF OUR ANCESTORS


MAY THOSE WHO DIED REST IN PEACE


MAY THOSE WHO RETURN FIND THEIR ROOTS


MAY HUMANITY NEVER AGAIN PERPETRATE SUCH INJUSTICE AGAINST HUMANITY


WE THE LIVING VOW TO UPHOLD THIS!



(Plaque above entrance to a “Male Slave Dungeon” circa 1792 at El Mina in Ghana)

Medasse to IfasehunReincarnated for providing link to this info
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Medase for this sobering, powerful reflection, we can never allow anyone to forget this most wickedly devastating crime against humanity or allow it to be diminished by anyone, *ever*.
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So tru; the Ghanaian brutha who post this on his website writes that one thing bothered him, not mentioned in his school days history books that it was Ghanaians selling Ghanaians... and Dahomey, Benin. His series of articles provides a frame to put in the noteriety given to such as Mansa Musa with his gold laden trip to Mecca during the despicable times Continental Afrikans, including Black Muslims, were selling their own people to yt. However a few have atoned and are offering land to those of us who choose to apply for it. Two I'm aware of offer land; one for I heard 99 year "lease" - the land can not be bought and sold like here - and the other one for yearly taxes plus pledges to build a house, help to build a clinic or hospital and other infrastructures w/i chosen and previously agreed upon areas in Ghana.

So we, imo, NEW AFRIKANS can cut out all the b.s about OurStories and be like the existing descendants of the original Maroons in places like Texas and some parts of the Caribbean have a motto: NEVER AGAIN!

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If you want to view pictures or read more about the Castles (dungeons) that were used as forts, ports of entry and way-stations for African bound for the African Holocaust, follow the link in my signature. I reposted an older site that has been down for about 4 years now.

The sister vanished but using "WayBack Machine" Internet Archive I found the old site and added new photos.
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If you want to view pictures or read more about the Castles (dungeons) that were used as forts, ports of entry and way-stations for African bound for the African Holocaust, follow the link in my signature. I reposted an older site that has been down for about 4 years now.

The sister vanished but using "WayBack Machine" Internet Archive I found the old site and added new photos.
I'll look into it.... medaase pa
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SEASON(S) of CHEER: AVOIDING INCREASING INDEBTEDNESS

"The same mentality that started the Opium Wars by trying to turn the Chinese into an addicted people and went into the third leg of the 'slave trade' that brought sugar from the West Indies to their homeland for the European hordes who had been seduced into its addiction is at work here....
.... It is hard for those socialized in a culture that teaches all people to believe they individually and independently originate their own intelligent decisions to admit that most of their choices are not wholly their own. It is upon this ignorance that culture depends for control. The business that says that it is fully informing you because its best customers are intelligent about its products and practices is the one to be most wary of. Business thrives on ignorant and gullible customers who it can manipulate at will to purchase in excess of needs, at ridiculous prices and exorbitant interests rates....
Intelligent consumers who can see through their deceit are avoided and taken as business losses recoverable by further exploiting ignorant ones. In all other areas Wester culture works in the same way. And, in all other areas as in business, conscious people cannot be manipulated."


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How do you all think we should reply to people who like or dont like slavery? Cause it wasn't only white people who were involved, it was everyone from the Middle East onwards. For African slavery africans even sold africans so we eye them with suspiscion, then Europeans were in america, so we eye them with suspision and also Arabs had a hand in the slave trade too.

So who can you get mad at when everyone was to blame???
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How do you all think we should reply to people who like or dont like slavery? Cause it wasn't only white people who were involved, it was everyone from the Middle East onwards. For African slavery africans even sold africans so we eye them with suspiscion, then Europeans were in america, so we eye them with suspision and also Arabs had a hand in the slave trade too.

So who can you get mad at when everyone was to blame???
Slavery has been around since the beginning of Civilization. Mainly through Wars. The Prisoners of these Wars would be assimilated into the Culture of the Victor. But it was the Transatlantic Slave Trade that was the worst form of Slavery in known History. This is where we were treated as Chattel. Brought down to the level of Beasts as opposed to just servants like in other Cultures. Robbed of our name, culture, everything that makes you Human. Not to mention the brutality. They treated their horses better than they treated us.

In Arab Slavery, they married many of their Slaves and the children were born free. It was still Slavery but nothing like how it was practiced among the Caucasian North Americans. And yes, the Arabs owe us Reparations as well. They're still enslaving Africans in North Africa. I wish I had a great Army, I'd send Troops over there and lock that shyt down.

The Africans that were involved in this do owe us Reparations because of the Brutality they sold our ancestors, their own people, into. If they knew the situation we were getting into, I wonder if they would have engaged in the Slavetrade with the European? Thats the question.
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And learn06 be informed that many Afrakan national leaders have formally apologized and have open'd their borders and markets to us in particular. Do u remember and accept what Dr. Francis C. Welsing said: teach your children about RACISM (she means European racism especially) and she said: remember on the chess board, the white moves first.

However at Mwalimu Baruti's shule, all the students learn Chess and the Black moves first. And get to this u'd probably be surprised at the numbers of Continental Afrakans who know not about their own Stories as related with Ours. We know our Afrakan relatives sold us down the river, so to speak; Its up to u & me to remind them; just as we know of the foulness perpetrated by present day leaders over there; the cream of their crops whose families sometimes were forced and others who volunteered their children to be indoctrinated in European schools and religions.

Many of them are more wounded than us. In my opinion we have an obligation to put straighteners on much of today's mis-educated Afrakans at home and abroad. Not from positions of arrogance or condescenence but from knowledgeable and heartfelt concern. For we be them; dey be us. Otherwise we be divided. And will continue to be seen as a despicable enslaved mentacidal folk.

Besides put aside hatred and replace it with knowledge and love of self. If u must be consumed by anything let it be from your own sources and self-determined definitions.

Many of my day were wiped out before what was called Cultural Nationalism evolved to its present stages... still incomplete ... but the circle will not be broken

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