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      The Real Fantasy: Christmas by Baba Ahmed!

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      I felt that the Elder laid this out nicely so in his honor and memory I lay this out as a Prayer Rug! Prostrate yourselves before the grace of Baba Ahmed The Great!!!


      The Real Fantasy: Christmas

      Greetings may sistas and bruthas of a most vibrant online info/organizing spot! I thought not to post this here, altho I did elsewhere. This is primarily a learning/teaching/educating site that one will think such info is unnecessary. Its not a proven fact; so if it benefits anyone, I give thanks; if it doesn't I must admit learning a tidbit or two. Enjoy and spread the news in this season of joy and goodwill.


      Its said to be Christmas season. This info came to me an hour or so ago; its source is packed so it'll be very brief. An Ancestor now, IshakaMusa BaraShango introduces chapt six, titled CHRISTMAS: THE MERRY MESS*, saying this:

      "In the spirit of Black Unity... and with all due respect to my race I submit that it is absolutely amazing how so many of my people can gullible accept something simply because it exists. Unfortunately a large segment of Black People will embrace and put their energy into a thing, without ever really analyzing the impact, for better or worse, it may have upon them and their posterity for generations to come. This is the case with Afrikan People and European holidays, especially the most European of all holidays, Christmas.

      There are even those among us who will look upon you as though you have the plague when you inofrm them you do not indulge in the celebration of the European fantasy commonly called Christmas. This attitude on the part of Blacks exhibits their ignorance and lack of an understanding of world history, without which one cannot understand the present or the future.... Because of the production limitations on the size
      of Book I, we are unable to give a full treatment of this subject in this chapter; however, we will devote more time and space to the study of Christmas, its origins and the deep dark secrets behind its true significance in Book IV of this series under the heading, Xmas Madness: An In Depth Study of the Christmas Fantasy.'

      The question may arise as to why we refer to Christmas as the most European of all holidays? The answer is in two parts, firtly, the practice of Christmas observance is the essence of ancient customs and belifs of the Greeks, Romans, Celts, Teutons, Nordics, Germans, Slavs, and other come lately European peoples. Although some vague remnants of Afrikan and Asian customs are still remotely present in its celebration and despite the claim of its exponents that Christmas is the birthday of Jesus Christ...this celebration is a direct extension of European customs and practices (many of which are shockingly eerie and disgusting as well) which took place during the coldest and darkest part of the year. Secondly, Christmas supports the existing economic power of Euro-America and other European countries. What it does is bring up the slack in the gross national product at the end of the year. Any and everything is put on the market for the consumer to buy. Statistically, Black People are 99 percent consumer, that is we produce less than 1 persent of the goods in this country, in the world as a matter of fact. This means, in essence, that as a people we help keep the economy of the United States of America and the western world in motion.


      The term Christmas comes from the old English 'Criste Maesse,' which is supposed to mean literally, the celebration of the birthday of Christ, whom a correct study of history clearly reveals to be a Black Messiah. This designation for Christmas was first used in the 11 Centrury of the Christian Era... many believe that on the day Jesus was born, his mother looked at his father and said, 'Let's celebrate Christmas' when in actuality the word Chrismas did not come on the scene until some ten centuries, that is, over 1,000 years after the birth of Jesus....

      Next we come to a German word, 'Weihnacht' meaning Holy Night. Another German terminology used in reference to the Christmas season is Kris Kringle denoting 'birth of the Christ child.' Kris Kringle is generally portrayed as a jolly fat elf with a long white beard, donning a red suit, who transports himself through the air in a sled pulled by reindeer.

      Then, there is the Italian 'II Natale' meaning, the birth and 'La Navidad,' a Spanish term also meaning the birth. Before England became a nation, the Anglo-Saxons who dwelt in the land used the word 'geol' from which comes the word yule or 'Yuletide Season' to signify the feast of the winter soltice, a celebration held in honor of the sun as it stats its Journey back towards the earth. The commemoration of the winter soltice was usually observed in Europe around December 22. Long before Joseph and Mary met and Jesus was born, the phrase 'Dies Natalis Solis Invicti' was used in ancient Rome to signify the birthday of the unconquered son....

      Note how all the preceeding information definitions are from European countries and related to European culture. There is nothing Afrikan about them, therefore, they have nothing to do with you and your well being, for Europe is not your ancestral homeland, the tropical land of Afrika is. Yet, every year during this season, many Black People as though in a hypnotic trancee find themselves moving feverishly in preparation for Christmas Day, which as you say, 'Only comes once a year,' I say it's a good thing it doesn't come more often than that for if it did, Black People would be in even worse shape than we are now, which in many cases is shomewhat similar to a dependent bird in a cage who thinks that his restricted quarters is the sum total of all there is to the world.


      Now let us deal with the birth of Jesus Christ which, according to the Europeans, is supposed to have taken place on December 25th... the date of December 25 was commemorated in the ancient world long before Jesus was born, as the birthdate of Horus in Egypt, on the continent of Afrika. Horus, one of the many Ethiopian manifestations of the sun, was the halo (sun disc) wearing son of Isis and Osiris, born some 4,000 or more years ago -- at least 2,000 years before the New Testament Christ. In those days, December 25 was also observed as the birthday of Tammuz the Babylonian god of love and the nativity of Mithra a Persian sun deity also depicted with a brilliant halo of light around his head; the sacred icon of the Ethiopian sun disc. Again, Cionysus (the Roman Bacchus), Greek adaptation of a Afro-Asian savior god commonly associated with the vine, the vineyard and wine was born December 25. The Greco-Romanized version of Cionysus eventually became a homosexual god of the Europeans whom they delighted in worshipping through a ceremony which consisted of the men coming together, getting sloppy drunk, stripping themselves and each other naked and engaging in the filthy practice of same gender copulation. When the reprobate ritual was over the men would go home and beat up their wives....

      For many years there was much controversy over the exact date upon which Christmas should be celebrated. The Eastern church at Constantinople, the capital of the Byzantine empire, celebrated the birth of Jesus, the visit of the wise men, and the baptism of Jesus on January 6, which is referred to in the Western church as the Feast of the Epiphany (manifestation). This date is observed by the Eastern Orthodox Church even to this day. Some of the other dates that were celebrated throughout the three hundred or so years before the finalization of December 25 were

      January 8
      February 2
      March 25 or 29
      April 19
      May 20
      September 29
      November 17

      and different dates in the month of August. In other words they didn't know what day Jesus was born..... So the Roman Catholic Church finally decided December 25 would be the best date since some Europeans were already celebrating Saturnalia on that date. By the end of the 4th Century C.E., the Christian world, with the exception of the Eastern churches and possibly the Coptic Church of Ethiopia was celebrating Christmas on December 25. In The Story of Civilation, Will Durant writes:

      "'Paganism survived in the moral sense as a joyous indulgence of natural appetities; as a religion it remained only in the form of ancient rites and customs condoned or accepted and transformed by an often indulgent church. An intimate and trustful worship of saints replaced the cults of the pagan gods, and satisfied the congenial polytheism of simple or poetic minds. Statues of Isis and Horus were renamed Mary and Jesus; the Roman Lupercalia and the Feast of the Purification of Isis became the Feast of the Nativity; the Saturnalia were replaced by Christmas celebration... '"

      Afrikan People and European Holidays: A Mental Genocide, pgs 58-63. Barashango & Associates, 4942 W. Parkside Ave. Philadelphia PA 19131. Dynasty Publishing Co, Washington, DC. 1979

      [Baba note: Commemorators of Christmas! ask yourselves, is there any evidences in the vast continent of Afrika which speaks to Afrikans celebrating Jesus' birthday? From Afrikan sources, Ancient or Traditional?]


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      I tell my kids that by giving them "presents" "during Christmas" that they are the direct representation of Jesus.

      Brotha Yeshua's represenation is that of "white" child.

      Of course this "conception" is "IN" itself, an object of "extreme devotion" for those who's simple observation, of the need for a "lighthearted, and carefree episode" of peace and contentment at the "tragic apprehension" of there "identity" for a simple barter of there "adaptive reasoning" of someone else's "interpretation of imagination".

      1. Is accomplished by not distinguishing between believing "in" Jesus, or believing "in" his message of "monotheism".

      2. The intention of this "belief" is to put a end to oppression.

      3. This intention, can only be healed through an "consideration of independent existence" of a "higher power" manifested through a people's/person's "actual experience", entirely.

      An alternative if you will, is a "power" that manifest and express's facts and conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations. GOD willing.

      the definition of "in" : Arranging a form to produce a shape of privilege or possession with regard to certain condition known to be understood by only a certain group of people.

      The Quran

      [2:285] The messenger has believed in what was sent down to him from his Lord, and so did the believers. They believe in GOD, His angels, His scripture, and His messengers: "We make no distinction among any of His messengers." They say, "We hear, and we obey. Forgive us, our Lord. To You is the ultimate destiny."

      Peace be upon you

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