Anybody know any good books written by UNBIASED Historians of religion?

[Walk Wit Me]

I only know of the jewish historian Josephus....but some say he is viewed as a traitor and informer and people question his credibility as a historian...

Someone point me in the direction of books that drop the facts and history on every religion...(written by a historian and not someone from a religion trying to prove a point) none of that biased mythological stuff please (no offense to anyone)

[Im The Truth]

First what does religion mean? Are you truly looking to learn about various religious or just Christianity, Judaism, and Islam? That's what most people mean with they say religion as if these all similar religions are the only ones. With that in mind umm let's see you have the Bible and the Qu'ran. I have to mention those first because you can't understand religion, in general, from the POV of an outsider but true understanding only comes from an insider. For a more historical base than you should understand the history around those "mythologies". But I'm sure that's not the answer you want but that will teach you the history of those religions. But if you just want to read for a simple African's created these religions historic view of these religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) then check out the books below:

The Myth of Exodus and Genesis and the Exclusion of Their African Origins by Yosef Ben-Jochannan

A Chronology of the Bible: Challenge to the Standard Version (B.C.P. Pamphlet) by Yosef Ben-Jochannan

African Origins of Major "Western Religions" Paperback by Yosef A. A. Ben-Jochannan

The Africans Who Wrote the Bible Paperback by Nana Banchie Darkwah

Enoch the Ethiopian: The Lost Prophet of the Bible : Greater Than Abraham, Holier Than Moses Paperback by Indus Khamit Cush

Biblical History of Black Mankind Paperback by C. McGhee Livers

The Need for a Black Bible Paperback by Yosef Ben-Jochannan

Christopher Columbus and the Afrikan Holocaust: Slavery and the Rise of European Capitalism Paperback by John Henrik Clarke

Maat the 11 laws of God Paperback by Ra Un Nefer Amen

500 Questions and Answers on the Black Presence in the Bible Paperback by John L. Johnson

Black Man of the Nile and His Family Paperback by Yosef Ben-Jochannan

Holy Lockdown: Does the Church Limit Black Progress? Paperback by Jeremiah Camara

Nile Valley Contributions to Civilization (Exploding the Myths) Paperback by Anthony T. Browder

We, the Black Jews: Witness to the 'White Jewish Race' Myth, Volumes I & II (in One) Paperback by Yosef A. A. ben-Jochannan

From Babylon to Timbuktu: A History of the Ancient Black Races Including the Black Hebrews by Rudolph R. Windsor

Destruction of Black Civilization : Great Issues of a Race from 4500 B.C to 2000 A.D. by Chancellor Williams

Nile Valley Contributions to Civilization (Exploding the Myths) by Anthony T. Browder

Metu Neter Vol. 1: The Great Oracle of Tehuti and the Egyptian System of Spiritual Cultivation by Ra UN Nefer Amen

Overall damn near any book by Dr. Ben (Dr. Yosef A. A. ben-Jochannan)

[Sun Ship]

Originally Posted by Walk Wit Me

I only know of the jewish historian Josephus....but some say he is viewed as a traitor and informer and people question his credibility as a historian...

Someone point me in the direction of books that drop the facts and history on every religion...(written by a historian and not someone from a religion trying to prove a point) none of that biased mythological stuff please (no offense to anyone)

You would do well to read many of the books listed by Brother Im The Truth, but let’s be clear there is NO SUCH THING as an UNBIASED scholar or book. You have to study and read diligently, and dig deep into the subjects to get a greater understanding.

Some degree of being bias is just a human factor, it’s not necessary always good or bad. As the elders use to say, “read all things with a grain of salt�


peace

[Walk Wit Me]

thanks.....

[MrWG]

There is a book called, The Original Blessing, By Matthew Fox, that talks about pre Constantinian, mystical Chrisitanity. It points out blow by blow how and when the Europeans transformed Christianity to a religion they could use to support empires and European Expansionism. It is out of print, but I am sure you can get it used from amozon, or somewhere.

Another is Reclaiming the Religion of Jesus in a Modern Age, by Dr. John W. Gilmore. This book also looks at pre-Constantinian Christianity. It explores Christianity when it was know as the Way. Even before the Apostle Paul and the name Christianity. Through looking at biblical teaching through the teachings of other mystics and giving their words the same value as Jesus´ it points out how The Way, original Christianity, is very valuable today for liberation, freedom and connection with God. It can be purchased at Amazon.com or directly from www.lulu.com by just typing in the title or the authors name.

[Typozfem]

This historian is a White guy but I respect his observations on religion and myth and how they fit into the human experience. His name is Joseph Campbell.

I agree with the person who said there is no such thing as an unbiased writer or person.

At times when a person can observe the goings on of human beings without a passionate eye that person is still called biased by the people who don't agree with him or her.

Typozfem

[rebelAfrika]

Originally Posted by Sun Ship

but let’s be clear there is NO SUCH THING as an UNBIASED scholar or book.

Exactly!!! Sometimes yall (and in this case, brutha Sun Ship) be sayin' what I want to say faster than I can say it, LOL!!!

[Sun Ship]

Originally Posted by Typozfem

This historian is a White guy but I respect his observations on religion and myth and how they fit into the human experience. His name is Joseph Campbell.

I agree with the person who said there is no such thing as an unbiased writer or person.

At times when a person can observe the goings on of human beings without a passionate eye that person is still called biased by the people who don't agree with him or her.

Typozfem

Literally every African scholar I have ever studied has used ALL sources available to them, extensively citing the works of European scholarship. Since Europeans had a dominant presence in and access to an academic world and treasure chest of evidentiary knowledge we were excluded from because of the institution of racism. It’s almost impossible to do extensive and empirical research without reviewing the works of European scholars. So much of our own original ancient scholarship has been discarded, sold of, appropriated, outright stolen, or destroyed.

What our scholars have found is that either, it’s not always the veracity of the the evidence that is in question, but the way it was misconstrued and knowingly misinterpreted, or in a better light, they have come to discover that not all European scholars lied, though their works were usually dismissed, or put on the back shelves of libraries.

I also have found the works of Joseph Campbell very fascinating, and he has been considered a distinguished scholar as it applies to interpreting mythology. The works of Joseph Campbell are extensive from documentaries, to lectures, to interviews, let alone his multitude of books, which many can be found in some form be it audio, video, or text files, on the web.

The only problem with European scholarship even at it’s fairest and most truthful it will be always jaded and shadowed by the white scholar's European worldview, for these scholars are still interpreting the world through the collective unconsciousness of European cultural thought and behavior. This is where the real work begins as we deracinate their incomplete understanding of the evidence and misguided interpolations from the truth of the matter. Usually they have a hard time including the presence of African people in their deeper interpretations of world events, be it spirituality, religion, philosophy, or technical advancement.

This is where Joseph Campbell and many others fall short as they look at mythology and religion in places like India more from of a Brahmanistic or Indo-European Aryan perspective rather than the Africoid (negroid) or Dravidian original spiritual construct or interpretation. It’s not that all European scholars are proactively racist, it’s that they just can’t remove themselves from their intrinsic nurturing, which insulates their thinking from the worldview of others.


Peace

[Asani Jengo]

This book provides insights into the opinions of Joseph Campbell in regards to traditional African religions. Don’t be surprised by what you find. The Hero with an African Face: Mythic Wisdom of Traditional Africa by Clyde W. Ford

[akuabarca]

im the truth that's that fiyah...thanks for the list.

[Moorish Rebel]

African History Vs. Biblical Myths Part I - DVD
Compelling, visually documented lecture reveals the African origin of Old Testament stories and concepts. Includes live lectures on site in Egypt. Studio-produced, 2 hours.

African History Vs. Biblical Myths Part II - DVD
Remarkable, visually documented, video discloses the African origin of biblical stories and concepts. Live lectures and scenes filmed on location in Egypt and Ethiopia. Studio-produced, 2 hours

African Origin of Christianity (Stolen Religion from Egypt and Ethiopia) Part I - DVD
Visually documented video reveals the African origin of Christian religion from ancient Egypt & Ethiopia to the incorporation of African concepts and symbols in European Christianity. Live lectures in Egypt & Ethiopia. Studio-produced, 2 hours, 40 minutes

Christianity, the Stolen Religion From Africa (How the Enemy Became the Deity) Part II - DVD
Revealing visually documented slide presentation lecture video depicts the spiritual enslavement of African people. Studio-produced, 1 hour, 30 minutes

These aren't books but the information that he gives in these dvds will blow your mind!

[moorpheus-El]

Though some on this forum may disagree.But seek out the pamplets of Dr Malachi Z York-El. He has written not authored books on various topics pertaining to the three major religion. Chritianity, Judism, Islam. The Books are to numberous to list here.

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But still we must go through the books of the historians of religion with a fine tooth comb. Check out references.

[Asani Jengo]

This text was introduced to me By Dr. Henry Olela who was teaching Philosophy from an African perspective at Clark College during the early '70's. The book is now accepted as a classic in academic circles. It is entitled African Religions and Philosophy by John S. Mbiti. I hope that it is helpful to you.

[akuabarca]

i like the book HEBREWISMS of WEST AFRICA by JOSEPH J WILLIAMS

[Walk Wit Me]

Originally Posted by Moorish Rebel

African History Vs. Biblical Myths Part I - DVD
Compelling, visually documented lecture reveals the African origin of Old Testament stories and concepts. Includes live lectures on site in Egypt. Studio-produced, 2 hours.

African History Vs. Biblical Myths Part II - DVD
Remarkable, visually documented, video discloses the African origin of biblical stories and concepts. Live lectures and scenes filmed on location in Egypt and Ethiopia. Studio-produced, 2 hours

African Origin of Christianity (Stolen Religion from Egypt and Ethiopia) Part I - DVD
Visually documented video reveals the African origin of Christian religion from ancient Egypt & Ethiopia to the incorporation of African concepts and symbols in European Christianity. Live lectures in Egypt & Ethiopia. Studio-produced, 2 hours, 40 minutes

Christianity, the Stolen Religion From Africa (How the Enemy Became the Deity) Part II - DVD
Revealing visually documented slide presentation lecture video depicts the spiritual enslavement of African people. Studio-produced, 1 hour, 30 minutes

These aren't books but the information that he gives in these dvds will blow your mind!

Where can I find these DVDS??