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    Stop talking About Nation Building

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    by , 08-05-2009 at 06:14 PM (699 Views)

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    This subject has been on my mind for some time, but there are events happening that have made me write about our state as I see it. The problem as I see it is that we have no state. We hear alot from all points of leadership that we should be about nation building. But when one really thinks about it, and checks the actions that we have been conducting, such as marches,sit-ins and boycotts.

    ( Fifty six years ago in Baton Rouge, La., black citizens banded together to fight the segregated seating system on city buses: June 20, 1953)

    We must consider that these acts are to partition the governors to redress grievances. It we are not convince that government will not redress our grievances by now then we are truly mad. The definition of madness is "anyone who does the same thing every day but expects a different outcome"
    The truth is why should they consider redressing what a minority in the community considers a grievance. After all according to the polls "In last year’s presidential election, younger blacks voted in greater proportions than whites for the first time and black women turned out at a higher rate than any other racial, ethnic and gender group, a census analysis confirmed" in the New York Times.
    It is numbers like this that clearly shows our acceptance of the govenment that is in place, so why would the governors even give credence to an unorganized minority. They wouldn't!
    What has that got to do with what I am talking about?
    Here is how it works. The first thing is that you have to know who you are, I know that telling any of our people that they don't know who they are will normaly start a fight but please hear me out.
    Because this is how it works and none of our leaders ever talks about it. The reasons why they will not talk is for you to contemplate.
    If an african from say Guinea was to ask a group of africans born in america if they are citizens 80% will say yes. 15% will say no but will not be able to point to any other citiznship. And of the 5% who can point to another citizenship, it will be in a white organization. (Consider that a citizen is someone who supports the goverment and its actions and in return is protected by it.) So you are citizen by choice! This brings us back to knowing who you are! If we say we have free will and that all
    people on the planet have free will then no one can make you a citizen

    Deprogram_Now

    As a matter of fact there is a law that saids that "they shall be no involuntary servitude." But voluntary servitude is lawfull. In other words you have the right to be enslaved if that is what you want!
    see more on this link http://tinyurl.com/m72yj Deprogram_Now
    The assumption is that you are and want to be a citizen if you have not stated otherwise.
    What do you think the numbers would be if the question was "Do you support the actions of your govenment?
    Let me state right now that
    1. Marching is not nation building!
    2. Boycotting is not nation building!
    3. Sit-ins,slow downs,work stoppages are not nation building!
    4. Getting in any one place to do anything other than nation building (Creating and/or maintaining
    national governmental departments and agencies) is not nation building.

    We have again gone astray. It is not the frist time and it will not be the last if we don't pass
    around this needed information. And what information is that?
    It is that
    1. You can not have a nation that has not declared itself to the international community!
    (Unless we have intentions of doing this we should not talk about nation building)
    2. You can not start a nation that does not have and follow laws!
    (At least a clear outline of the laws and how they will be enforced)
    3. You can not have a nation that is not organized
    4. We should not want to appear belligerent without a cause.
    (If we are citizens of the UNITED STATES then we have no cause to
    be belligerent! Because we have already given tacit agreement
    by not stating our disagreement and also our vote) *No one is a
    mind reader! And the above, marches, sit-ins and boycotts are not
    clear statement in regards to nationhood.

    Question: Are you saying we should not vote after our ancestors have worked and died for it ?

    Our ancestors believed that participating in the system would make a difference.
    This does not consist of black bases in high places, which is what we have.
    So we have what we voted for. Now, I ask what is the difference?


    There are many departments and laws to be formed.
    I have listed some simple departmental ideas to start the dialog.
    The question is who is really interested and who is just talking. There are many advantages to nationhood, which I will not get into here because it is not about greed. after all that is how we got here
    is that not true?

    Executive Departments
    Department of the Executive (Direct oversite of all Executive Department)
    Department of Agriculture and Transportation
    Department of the Treasury Commerce and Labor
    Department of Defense and Security (Oversight - Department of Justice)
    Department of Education Health and Human Services (Research Commission)
    Department of Energy
    Department of Housing and Urban Development
    Department of State
    Department of the Interior (Administrative Committee of the national Register)
    Department of the Exterior ( United Nations Ambassadors office)


    Judicial Branch

    Department of Justice (Oversight - Council of Elders)
    National Supreme Court (Natural Law) dismissed or returned to Sentencing Commission
    National Courts of Appeals
    Courts of Appeals (local)
    Natural Law Courts (local)
    Sentencing Commission (local)
    Department of Repatriation (responsible for removing our citizens from debt enslavement (prisons))
    A great deal of the work will be preformed here because of the many case like this.


    Legislative Branch

    All laws must be in accordance with ( the sprit of maat) as per the writings of our ancestors.

    Oversight Office of Accountability (Oversight - All Legislative Branch department)
    National Council of Elders (makes laws)
    (upon deadlock-> resolved by the people's vote)

    Consisting of locally elders and elected officials who will select national officials
    ( official is subject to veto by a precentage people of that district )

    Department of the Treasury

    Local Council of Elders ( Oversight local Council of Elders)
    We can no longer say we were never told!

    Not a full list and I am sure someone can put more order to it.
    But I think this is the simplest way to start.
    I am looking to the elders and the wise to make it live!
    Give your input on how any of the above should be run or reorder.
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    I name this "Stop talking about nation building" to get your attention I hope it worked. To reply to this post please use this link Lord of the Perfect Black for Information because I have posted this in many places and I will not be going around looking for posts to reply to.

    Check the links above for more background on this topic before replying.
    1st Justice then Peace.
    By Myself I'm a movement, with you I'm a force!

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    1. RDC's Avatar
      I feel you. I don't know how to be encouraging, and discouraging, at the same time, while projecting a sense of positivity. But, here goes.

      Black people in the United States DO NOT want a nation. Black people in the United States consider themselves full-fledged citizens. Their highest desire is to be "equal" to everyone else, as it relates to "rights."

      They highest desire Assata Shakur has is to BE FREE. It is the highest desire I have. There DOES NOT EXIST, in the gut of our people, the YEARNING to breath free air. Our people "make due."

      They are CONTENT (really!!) Because, for one thing, JESUS is still "here," and he's still sitting "at the right hand of God," and he's still "coming back," DESPITE the fact that it's been 2000 fucking YEARS--and he ain't came back to help our people do shit.

      And, I'm sorry for this acid comment, but that is just ONE (and a BIG one!!) of our people's problems, especially the women. Sorry, but it's true.

      For me, Jesus is DEAD. Period. Dead people DO NOT come back to do ANYTHING, ever. They remain dead.

      Okay, now that that's out of the way [though I can elaborate ALL DAY], I'll move on. I'll try.

      If you have not heard the song, "A Song for Assata," please go listen to it NOW: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrWxrFr7TL4"]YouTube - A Song for Assata[/ame]

      When I hear that song (and I'm sure the same is the case for you), I get ALL KINDS of emotions. Firstly, I get BIG butterflies. Secondly, my heart literally starts palpitating big time.

      Thirdly, as a black man who was THERE in the 1960s and 1970s, and who FOUGHT, I get such a pang of LOVE in my heart, and I want to fly to Cuba, seek sister Assata out, BEG her--on my knees--for her hand in marriage; or, short of that, just be AVAILABLE to her for comfort.

      Not that she doesn't have that. I'm sure she does. I'm just telling you what I feel--FEEL.

      Fourthly, I FEEL the brother who got shot in the back, on New Years Eve. I feel Fred; Malcolm. I feel the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, and a host of other people.

      I FEEL so much!!

      Now, you go play that for the average black person. AT MOST, they'll look at you and say, "You must be one of those black power niggahs." Black power niggah.

      My brother, it hurts me beyond WORD to tell you this: FORGET IT! Well, I don't mean that. Sorry. But, you tell me: HOW!!??

      I got on the train at 51st Street, many years back, in Chicago. A sho nuf project sister was sitting there with her friend. She had on a fake, mink jacket--and she was eating barbeque potatoe chips, the chips crumbling all DOWN her mink.

      And she was telling her friend, another "ghetto" sister [I LOVE my "ghetto" sisters, mind you, BIG time] that, "Me and Willie have a Platonic relationship?"

      WHAT THE FUCK?? SPELL 'PLATONIC?'

      Do you understand what I'm SAYING!? We are HERE, and we want to be here SO BAD that we will try to imitate shit we see on TV, and try to PROJECT ourselves into a world that, Number one, DON'T WANT US, and, number two, we have NO familiarity with.

      WE WANT TO BE AMERICANS!! When I say "we," I ain't talking about you and me.

      In truth, I've given up. No shit, I'm done! I have a religious belief [NOT Christianity] surrounding human brotherhood ONLY because the desire for a nation for black people here in the U.S. DON'T EXIST.

      So, I figure that if we can convince so-called "Americans" that they're HUMAN BEINGS, then maybe we can FUCK these white folks out of existence!! Turn their children BROWN--Fuck them into humanity, since this SEEMS to be the only way they're gonna come.

      And I even wonder if THAT will work! But, it ain't been tried yet.

      Now, hypocritically, I'll say this: IF there emerge REAL SIGNS that black folks SOMEHOW are deciding that they want a nation; that they want to be free; that they will NOT be content with black President of the United States; a black Supreme Court Justice; a black WHATEVER;

      If I see that our people begin to teach their children, at dinner table, about the "Republic of Africa," or whatever the fuck we call it, and it becomes almost the ONLY THING you hear black folks in the U.S. talking about, THEN I'll join in.

      I can't even LOOK at Assata's picture for 15 seconds without CRYING! How can she stand it!! Cuba must really be a paradise!

      Cuba must have given her so much peace of mind and love. I do hope she has a partner who can comfort her. I do hope so.

      Okay, back to our "nation." FORGET IT!!

      I was a member of the NOI (Nation of Islam), because I had a problem with spaceships, and all that shit. But I did love THEM (The Honorable Elijah Muhammad).

      And one them that T.H.E.M said was very eery. Sometime before he died, he said the following: "After me, there will be no more." He was warning black folks that if we didn't get our shit together while he was still on the set, then our shit was finished.

      I don't believe that that is the case. But it sho nuf don't look good.

      I applaud your enthusiasm. You're probably between 24 and 36 years old, I'd guess. Your outline of the departments of our sample nation is something I and others did way back in the 1960s--same thing.

      For what? So that black folks can turn on TV and look at, "So You Think You Can Dance," whille 13-year old sisters in Chicago get GUN DOWNED IN THE STREETS; while brothers, in train stations get SHOT IN THE BACK;

      While [and this breaks my heart and crushes my soul] our women are forced to sell there bodies, on the streets, to FOUL-ASSED white boys, slapping us men in the face, telling us, "I GOT YO WOMAN, AND I DO WHAT THE FUCK I WANT TO DO WITH HER."

      The utter humiliation; and the pain. On whom lies the responbility? On each black person? On leaders? LEADERS???!!! "Leaders" like Bill Cosby, who American Communists (just as an example) view as one of the most despicable people on earth, because of how he has demeaned his own people, with the EXCUSE of applying "tough love."

      Who the FUCK is Bill Cosby!! NOBODY! He's a BAFOON. In England, in the Middle Ages and before, he would be call a FOOL--a comedian. And the King would say, "Bring me my Fool!" and commence to kicking him in his ass, LITERALLY, as he laughed, watching him run.

      FUCK Bill Cosby! He has no love. He has NO LOVE. He is only EMBARRASSED at the fact that poverty exists amongst black folks. We are an EMBARRASSMENT to HIM, and that is the ONLY reason he talks shit about "tough love."

      Who are our leaders? Where? President Obama?

      I don't know. What am I supposed to do? Be encouraging? Tell you, "Right on, brother!" when I can see the REALITY of the situation amongst our people.

      sorry...gotta go...tears coming...

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    2. RDC's Avatar
      I said,

      " I was a member of the NOI (Nation of Islam), because I had a problem with spaceships, and all that shit. But I did love THEM (The Honorable Elijah Muhammad)."

      I meant to say that I was NEVER a member of the NOI, but I had respect, etc., etc.

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    3. Genetic's Avatar
      Thank you for your reply. Replys are so hard to come by.I am sorry it took me so long to reply to your post. But I post in a lot of places because I don't get replys and it can take some time to get back to the first one. I started reading you post with a smile. There was much in it about Assata
      of whom we all have a deep respect for or we would not be here.so I will skip pass all of that (with due respect) the next that I think i can respond to is how. Freedom (unless you have been lock down bodily) is in the mind the way you look at things. I can't or better yet won't go into all the ways that we are not thinking right but if you read then follow all the links and read them to a post I made "THE NEW MISSISSIPPI" you will get a better idea of the tools that we have to master to get what we want. it is just to much to rewrite every time someone ask the question. but it is there for you to evaluate the logic. Next you talk about waiting for the rest of the community to wake up! then you will come on board. Well the guy standing next to you is saying the same thing. So everyone is awake but we still waiting. Hmmm.
      This will get me a lot of boo's but with the exception of Malculm Xthe nation was and is not for real.
      I just cover that in my last post ( I didn't name the nation because I don't think they get 401c coverage, but that does not change the fact that they have not been able to do any thing for us other than give us bean pies and newspapers and we had to pay for that. I got a real big smile on my face when I read that you think that I am 24-36 I was born in 1952 I can even buy beer now...
      No! the thing we must never do is live in the past... Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mistry,
      Today is a gift! that's way they call it the present!
      what I am saying is that we have to admit that we made errors and when we find out what the errors were we have to use that information... That is what I am about. That is why I most likly not see any fruts of my labor. But that does not mean that the labor ends...
      P.S. I was not a panther because I at the time was a 5 percenter if you don't live in new york you might not know about that, but that is were my head was at then, but this is now!

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    4. Genetic's Avatar
      I don't know why that post came out like that ...just high light it to read it

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    5. Genetic's Avatar
      I don't know why I have this background color but if you high light the text you can read it. Also I notic that my post on the new mississippi has been removed but that is the nice thing about having your own site.here is the link to the story...

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    6. Genetic's Avatar
      This is part of my efford to
      connecting the past to the present!
      KEEP WORKING (it an'it over yet!)

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    7. Genetic's Avatar
      Now I give up!
      just check my u-tube page - videos connecting the past to the present

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    8. Genetic's Avatar
      I could not stand this... I had to coe back to correct it.. now that I have more time...

      Thank you for your reply. Replys are so hard to come by.I am sorry it took me so long to reply to your post. But I post in a lot of places because I don't get replys and it can take some time to get back to the first one. I started reading you post with a smile. There was much in it about Assata
      of whom we all have a deep respect for or we would not be here.so I will skip pass all of that (with due respect) the next that I think i can respond to is how. Freedom (unless you have been lock down bodily) is in the mind the way you look at things. I can't or better yet won't go into all the ways that we are not thinking right but if you read then follow all the links and read them to a post I made "THE NEW MISSISSIPPI" you will get a better idea of the tools that we have to master to get what we want. it is just to much to rewrite every time someone ask the question. but it is there for you to evaluate the logic. Next you talk about waiting for the rest of the community to wake up! then you will come on board. Well the guy standing next to you is saying the same thing. So everyone is awake but we still waiting. Hmmm.
      This will get me a lot of boo's but with the exception of Malculm Xthe nation was and is not for real.
      I just cover that in my last post ( I didn't name the nation because I don't think they get 401c coverage, but that does not change the fact that they have not been able to do any thing for us other than give us bean pies and newspapers and we had to pay for that. I got a real big smile on my face when I read that you think that I am 24-36 I was born in 1952 I can even buy beer now...
      No! the thing we must never do is live in the past... Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mistry,
      Today is a gift! that's way they call it the present!
      what I am saying is that we have to admit that we made errors and when we find out what the errors were we have to use that information... That is what I am about. That is why I most likly not see any fruts of my labor. But that does not mean that the labor ends...
      P.S. I was not a panther because I at the time was a 5 percenter if you don't live in new york you might not know about that, but that is were my head was at then, but this is now!

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    9. RealDreadly's Avatar
      The Anger

      I told her, I
      Found my humanity, reunited
      On a path of,
      ONENESS. My freedom
      Was now owned
      By me. The papers current,
      Up to date, in my soul, in
      My consciousness, I shared
      A part with her, my comrade.
      But she didn’t dig my
      Knew place. “Where is the
      Black Power”, she asked,
      The anger?

      Garvey is still my
      Role model,
      Malik, Marley, Douglass and
      Martin too! I replied.
      I’m just not angry,
      Any more, at least,
      Now I have more control,
      Devils are still devils, I
      Prefer the term Yurugu’s,
      And they come in many
      Shapes, from many cultures,
      But the change we live for
      Is beyond repeated rhetoric.

      I Black,
      Love,
      Therefore I,
      Am! Hasn’t changed.
      Without ownership of
      My humanity, anger just clouds
      Possibilities leading to
      Emotive reactionary impulses
      Doomed inept. She said,
      “ I hear you, but I like
      The take know shit,
      Black Man!”

      I’m still your
      Comrade, the fight chose
      Me cause I was born free,
      From the womb
      Called to solidarity
      And my humanity!
      Sister just love me, your
      Brother, it is,
      Still you, us, we,
      I live for! I endure for!
      I fight for! We, and
      Our referent group!

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    10. RealDreadly's Avatar
      We may change, until victory...the fight continues!
      Will we even agree what victory is! or will we just keep fighting! American Blacks have to find their humanity...and stop contributuing to a way of life defined by the dominant culture...this culure does not need to validate our humanity...so its seems neither do we as we are forced to assimilate...I mean acculturate, cause we are not accepted beyond maladaptive demeaning constructs...so I say fight on...keep learning and sharing...hope trumps doubt...maybe one day soon...we will actually have learned what we truly need from our past and its leaders...and be able to apply it to the fight, now!

      Peace and Love!

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