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    View Poll Results: IS THE WORD NIGGER A BAD WORD?

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    • SHOULD AFRIKANS REFER TO OURSELVES AS NIGGAZ?

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    • SHOULD WHITES BE ALLOWED TO CALL US NIGGAZ?

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    • ARE WE DISRESPECTING OURSELVES WHEN WE CALL EACH OTHER NIGGA?

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      Nigger is a controversial term used in many English-speaking countries, including the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, and Australia (but also in other languages such as German as a loanword) to refer to people of African descent. During the chattel enslavement of Africans, it was once the standard, casual English term for black people. The word has been associated with a presumption of inherent inferiority, and in general with the stereotypical characteristics of the race that the word denotes, rendering it a potentially pejorative and abusive term.

      The word "nigger" originates from the French nègre (with a similar meaning) or perhaps from Dutch and German neger, all derived from the Portuguese and Spanish word negro, which comes directly from the Latin adjective nigrum, accusative of niger, meaning black. In English, neger became "negar" and finally "nigger." "Neger" (sometimes spelled "neggar") prevailed in the North in New York under the Dutch and in Philadelphia in the Moravian and "Pennsylvania Dutch" [German] communities. For example, the New York City "African Burial Ground" was originally known as "Begraaf Plaats van de Neger."

      The word nigger in the United States was not originally considered derogatory but merely denotative. In nineteenth century American literature there are many uses of the word nigger with no intended negative connotation. (See below.) The perception of the term nigger as derogatory is no doubt related to the fact that the negroid race itself is widely regarded as inferior. There is an observable pattern of words denoting the Black race coming to be regarded as derogatory: nigger, darky, negro, and colored, all at various times acceptable, are all considered offensive now. "Black" was the preferred term from the late 1960s until the 1990s but has now been displaced in stilted usage by "African American," not to be confused with "Afro-American," a form in vogue in the early 1970s. African American is an awkward term (and imprecise, insofar as the population of Africa is not entirely negroid) that seems pretentious to many Whites, although not as awkward and pretentious as "person of color" which was proposed in the early 1990s. Consequently Black continues in widespread popular use as a racial designation.

      The arbitrariness of regarding "nigger" as derogatory is apparent in the fact that in Portuguese "negro" is today seen as a non-derogatory word, and "preto" (the most common word for the color "black") as the derogatory one.

      At times, African Americans have appropriated the slur, subverting it to a self-referential term that is often suggestive of familiarity, endearment, or kinship. When spelled phonetically, the word often was represented as nigguh; however, currently, when used in this manner, the spelling is often changed to nigga or niggah.

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      What kind of poll is this? It's a choice between more questions. It's like you can't really give an answer.

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      makes no sense

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      If You Can Complain About The Poll, Why Couldn't You Answer The
      Question Yourself? Does Someone Have To Provide An Answer For You?

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      You can't get an answer when all the choices used in the poll are questions themsewlves. Is the word Nigger a bad word? Yes it is and will always remain a term that is derogartory. From the the first time that yt used the term and directed at Afrikan people it became a bad word. I am also do not even use the term n****r, n***a. Our elders fought long and hard to gain the little that has been gained over the years. They didn't put in all that work for us to take the same term that yt used to identify us by and to try and use it as a term of endearment,when you call your fellow Afrikan brotha n****r you are not showing him love but ,you are disrespecting him. It's all apart of yt's brainwashing.
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      well written bro. But didn't you just give your answer even though the poll is
      all questions?

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      THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE "N" WORD



      THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE "N" WORD HAD A CONNOTATION CONNECTED TO THE GODS

      The word "nig..." used to be the most revered and sacred word in the universe. It was the "devine epithet," and the people who began using the mother of all words that originated from this word which was sullied by the British, were the ancient Egyptians or better, the Khemites, who called their land, "Khemet" or "The Black Land," and also used the name, "Ta-merri" or "The Beloved Land."

      THE WORD "N-G-R" MEANS "GOD" IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN

      The father of the "n" word was the word used by the ancient Egyptians for "God." That word was "N-g-r" and as one can see, there are no vowels in this word. In the ancient African and even the present African languages (the Afro-Asiatic linguistic family) vowels such as "a,e,i,o,u" are not found in many translations, particularly of ancient Hebrew and Egyptian languages.

      In the translation of ancient Egyptian and Hebrew (which is heavily influenced by Egyptian), one will not always find vowels, therefore, very few people will realize that the word for God, which is "N-g-r" pronounced "en-ger" was the Egyptian word for God. In fact, the Egyptian word for "nature," is also the word used for God. That word is "ntyr," (pronounced net-jer." Now prounce the word "nigg.." and the word "net-jer," and one sees the clear connection.

      MANY AFRICAN WORDS DENOTING PEOPLE OR IMPORTANT PEOPLE STARTS WITH "N"

      In many African languages particularly the Niger-Congo language family. Words that connects with people, Gods, and groups begin with "n" and that word is always the first word. For instance, the word "Nkosi" in Xhosa is "God." The word "Ndaba," in another South African language is "counsil" (or gathering of elders). Many common names also begin with "N".

      WORDS OF AFRICAN ORIGINS THAT CAME FROM THE ORIGINAL WORD, "N-G-R" (PROUNOUNCED EN-JER)

      N-g-r (Egyptian;pronounced en-jer) = God
      N-t-y-r (Egypt; pronounced net-ger) = God, Devine
      Negash (Ethiopia; ne-gash) = King
      Negus (Ethiopia; ne-goos) = Emperor
      Nkosi (Xhosa; en-kosi) = God
      Ndaba (Zulu; en-daba) = Counsil/Officials,
      Naga (East Indian, Nubian = People
      Nugarmarta (West African = People (See the writings of Ibn Buttata's journey to West Africa)

      HOW THE N BECAME CORRUPTED

      The Romans are probably the first Europeans to misrepresent the word for God, which was "N-g-r"
      About the early part of the First Century, Romans tried to invade Ethiopia. (see BLACK HISTORY CHART http://community.webtv.net/nubianem/...ldnubianempire or go to http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire for a list of Nubian Pharaohs and Queens.

      The Romans who were speakers of Latin always knew of Blacks, there were Blacks in Rome, Italy had an ancient Black presence long before the Latins migrated from Central Asia and North Eastern Europe during the 'Aryan' migrations. In fact, the Latin ethnic groups is still in existance in the northern part of Italy even today. This part of Italy still grips about Hannibal's invasion which happened about two thousand two hundred years ago!!!!

      The Romans had a name for Blacks, it was "Niger" and it meant Black or people of African origins. Thus, Septimus Niger would have meant, Septimus the Negro. Yet, how did the Romans connect the word "Niger" to Black.

      In ancient times, Blacks were worshipped as Gods. The Gods of Greece came from Egypt. The worship of the Black Madonna is connected with the worship of Isis, the Egyptian Goddes. Moreover, Blacks in Egypt called their Pharaohs "En-ger" or "N-g-r" he was literally referred to as "THE GOD."

      It is very possible that when the Romans tried to invade Nubia, they asked for the name of the God and the term "N-g-r" was probably used in place of "leader" or "king". In Angola, the same also happened during the 1600's when the word "N-gola" which means "King" (notice the "N" and the "g" in this word as well), came to be "Angola,' the name of a kingdom in south western Africa.
      (Read more on Nubian, Egyptian, West African and ancient American trade and commercial connections in ancient times; see the book, "Susu Economics: The History of Pan-African Trade, Commerce, Money and Wealth," published by 1stBooks Library, www.1stbooks.com also see www.barnesandnoble.com

      WHERE DID THE ROMANS FIRST HEAR THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE "N" WORD.

      A Roman general invading Nubia from Egypt would probably have used the Egyptian term for Pharaoh, which was "N-g-r" (God). This term then was used to refer to all Blacks and as time went by, the word N-g-r became Niger. In Fact, the Romans also classified their Emperors as "Gods," to follow the Egyptian style. Moreover, as the History Channel poointed out, "Rome was a collection of villages before the Egyptians built it up."(paraphrased).
      The word "em-peror" sounds very close to the word "en-jer." That is not a coincidental connection.

      THE WORD "N-G-R" (EN-JER) AFTER IT WAS CORRUPTED BY THE EUROPEANS

      Niger = (Latin or Black/African pronounced "ni-ger.")

      Nero = Italian for Black
      Negre = French for Black
      Negro = Spanish for Black
      The English called Blacks "Moore" or "Black-a-Moore" before they began using the word
      "Negro" to refer to Blacks. FROM THAT WORD CAME THE RACIAL EPITHET, "NIGG.."

      In like manner, the racist term for Japanese the mutilation of the word to shorten it into an epithet. Furthermore, the original name for Japan is the Chinese "Ni-Han." Now here is another great mystry that people who study the Niger-Congo linguistic family would quickly notice. EVEN THE WORD "Ni" in the Chinese "Ni-Han," has and ancient African connection. In fact, as Clyde Walters points out, The Chinese language is directly related to the Niger-Congo language which has its roots in the Cameroon region of Africa. In fact, there are thousands of African words from Cameroon to Kenya that have both prefixes and suffixes that are identical to both Chinese and Japanese languages (see also African Presence in Early Asia, by Ivan Van Sertima; Transaction Publishers)

      In the Case of "Ni-Han" which may mean "rising sun," there is also a sacred meaning that is found in the word "n-ger," or "ne-gro." Yet, the racist terms "nip," and "nigg..." or "jap," used by racists were and are being used without any understanding of their original meanings. Only hatred and envy comes out of the mouths of those who use racial epithets in their attempt to insult and denegrade others. However, it is up to us to study our history and make these racist words impotent, while at the same time, understanding their original meaning.

      Connection with the prefix "ni" with sacred and life:

      Ni'le = The Nile River, Life to the Egyptians

      Ni-ger = River in West Africa
      Niger = Nation in West Africa
      Nigeria = Nation in West Africa

      Nago = Racist term used by some SE Asians to refer to Black Melanesians of Africoid origins

      Nago-Mina = African nationality in Nigeria

      Naghual = Aztec word for Shaman or priest. The first Olmec Shamans in Mexico came from Nigeria and elsewhere in West Africa (see Black Civilizations of America http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire

      THE ORIGINS OF THE TERM "HUN."

      The racist term for whites also comes from a word that struck fear in the hearts of whites during the ancint times. That word is "Hun." The Huns were Mongol barbarians from Mongolia who tried to invade China and finally succeeded. THye invaded Eurasia from Russia all the way to Germany and mixed in with the Caucasians. Hence, the British began calling Germans the term "Hun."

      The countries of Hungary, East Germany, northern Italy, Russia, Poland and much of Eastern Europe is mixed with the Mongol invaders. There were Mongol invaders in Turkey, Afghanistan, India, and many nations.

      THE MONGOLS WERE DEFEATED BY NUBIANS AND MAMELUKES

      When the Huns tried to invade Egypt (sometime in the 1100's), they were met by a strong force of Nubians and Mamelukes (white slaves from slavic, Turkics from Bosnia, Serbia, Albania, Turkey and such nations), who were soldiers for the Egyptian rulers. The Mongols were defeated and that was the end of the Mongol Empire. Moreover, they were thinly spread over Eurasia. They also met a crack cavalry of Nubian horsemen and archers, who had a tradition of archery that extends way back to ancient Egyptian times.

      When one studies the history of the Huns in Europe, it is one of the most horrible genocides that existed (the genocide against Black Sudras and Black Australoids in India is another great genocide; see "Sudrology, http://dalitstan.org )
      The huns ravaged Europe and are said to spread the blacck plague by shooting plague infested rats in the walled towns of the Europeans to infest them.

      WE MUST STUDY OUR HISTORY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP OUR CONSCIOUSNESS AND MAKE PEOPLE'S RACIST REMARKS IMPOTENT

      We must study our history. It is by knowing who we are that racist remarks and racial epithets will become impotent. Every time one uses the word "nigg..." to refer to a Black person, they are actually calling that person "God." When we Blacks say that our Afro's and locks are "natural," we don't realize the significance of the word or the true meaning. But something in our consciousness simply cannot be destroyed. To say we are going "natural," means we are going back to being "gods," because the word "natural," comes from the original Egyptian word, "n-t-y-r" which means "God." The ancient Egyptians used a similar word to call their Pharoahs. That word was "N-g-r." The word "Pharaoh," was never used to refer to any Egyptian King. Pharaoh came from the word "Per-o" which was the term for the Great Temple, where the King lived.

      P. Barton is author of:
      Susu Economics: The History of Pan-African Trade, Commerce, Money and Wealth," pub. by 1stBooks Library, www.1stbooks.com

      A History of the African-Olmecs: pub by 1stBooks Library www.1stbooks.com

      Susu and Susunomics: pub by www.iuniverse.com

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      Great articles on the word "Nigger"

      I was not familiar with the words origin

      Is the word nigger bad? Well a lot of our people use it in a degrading manner

      "I'm a bust that nigga up"

      "Fuck that nigga"

      "Niggas ain't shit"

      Its definitely not used in the context of God like our ancestors in KMT used it.

      The word has been corrupted because the people are corrupted.

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      ashay! the people were currupted as well as the word.

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      The term is not "ashay", its ASE!

      and that article giving the impression that N-G-R is somehow an ancestral term is disgusting to say the least. If nothing else, it does NOTHING to aid our mission to better Afrikans and EVERYTHING to derail it.
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      I do not use the word. There is power and history behind the word and to use it on someone is to bring them down. I am all for building them up! Why don't we refer to ourselves as kings and queens?

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      I don't believe the KKK or any other crackas that called us niggers had any particular access to "ancestral wisdom" when they refered to us as that.

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      It is bad word and we should stop using it!

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      For some reason i get a bad from mshakur. 1 who would make a post like this knowing this site is based on revolutionary change and 2 what type of question is "is the word nigger bad?". Ask yourself Mshakur, if a white wo/man came up to you and said "A nigger can you answer a question for me?" what would you do?....then theirs your answer...
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      We give this word & white folks too much power over our emotions and our
      reactions. They know just where to push you, prevoke you, push your buttons. Don't you know you have the power to change the meaning of words. The crazy thing about it is we do it all day everyday there is new slang & terminology in the hood. The word bad sometimes means good now. you changed it. you did it. Why can't we change the meaning of the word nigger? whitey changed it. change it back. that's what revolution means- complete change. Don't tell me nothing about what white folks meant and what they ain't gon let you do.and they disrespected us using that word and it upsets us. boo hoo. damitt i wanna know what you gon do. cause I know we can do what ever we wanna do. when john p. said he got a bad whatever from mshakur i didn't know if he meant bad bad or good bad. guess its up to me.

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