AIDS is man-made - Interview with Dr. Boyd Graves

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AIDS is man-made - Interview with Dr. Boyd Graves
By FinalCall.com News
Updated Oct 5, 2004, 11:42 pm



(FinalCall.com) - After beginning his research on the AIDS pandemic in 1992, Dr. Boyd Graves discovered in February 1999 the greatest evidence, to date, of records and reports of the experiments that led to the development of what the world now knows as the AIDS virus. That document is the “1971 Flow Chart of the Special Virus Program of the United States.� Dr. Graves submitted this flowchart as evidence to the Sixth Circuit Federal Court in a case which named the President of the United States as a defendant to answer a petition acknowledging the authenticity of the Flow Chart. On January 12, 2001, the case was dismissed as “frivolous,� and then referred to the District’s Appellate Court, which ruled in favor of the lower court. Eventually, it went to the Supreme Court, which refused to hear it without giving comment as to why. Dr. Graves spoke with Final Call contributor Sultan Muhammad to explain the significance and consequences of his research.

Sultan Muhammad (SM): What is this flowchart and what does it indicate?

Boyd Graves (BG): The 1971 Flow Chart is the blueprint for the development of AIDS. It is the quintessential missing link document which provides absolute proof of the U.S. origin of HIV/AIDS. It is located in one of the 15 progress reports of the federal program entitled “The U.S. Special Virus Cancer Program.� I believe the term “cancer� was a misnomer to misdirect the actuality of the HIV development. It provides, again, absolute, absolute evidence of the U.S. origin of HIV as a synthetic biological agent.

We are currently bringing the lawsuit again with respect to the origin of AIDS/U.S. manufacture of AIDS, vis-Ã*-vis through a federal complaint which we now have pending in the San Diego Federal Court.

SM: There have been several other researchers who have said what you have said. However, your research appears to be the most specific and the most conclusive evidence. Why?

BG: I believe what you will find with some of the world scientists and medical doctors who have involved themselves in this issue is they have only taken it so far. I believe, maybe, out of fear. I also believe that some of them may, indeed, be a part of the problem as it relates to a blown cover that let some of the air out of the bag, but not all of the air out of the bag.

However, any cursory review of the U.S. Special Virus Program—the 15 progress reports—would show conclusively that, indeed, HIV is synthetic. It has been developed over a number of years and it has an affinity for people of color. But the research here, as reflected on my website, www.boydgraves.com, is as extensive as I can possibly make it, so that our people can see the totality of the other side of the development of this agent.

SM: When you say affinity to people of color, how is it directed?

BG: What the science and medical evidence concludes is that the HIV enzyme seeks out a receptor site in the blood of the Black genome. The receptor site is the CCR5 Delta 32+ (positive) gene that all people of color have. In the same sense, on the other end of the spectrum, is the 15 percent Caucasian population of the world, which is CCR5 Delta 32-(negative) gene. That means that under no circumstances, whether HIV came through the air, intravenous drug usage or any form of the sexual activity, would the virus be transferable in this sector of the world’s population, which is basically of northern European descent.

It is speculated by some experts that, in a worse case scenario, 85 percent of the world’s population could potentially perish under these designer viruses and designer synthetic biological agents. What we’re looking at here—because of this identified gene of the Black genome, this CCR5 Delta32+ (positive)—we are potentially looking at the eradication of all people of color.

SM: Your statement reminds me of the year 1932, when Mr. Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the current president, convened the first international eugenics conference here in America. I understand this year was significant for other reasons. Could you explain?

BG: Many of us are aware that the Tuskegee experiment, where Black sharecroppers were injected intentionally with syphilis for the purposes of infiltrating syphilis into the Black genome. Some 60 years later, we could then say that Black people are scurrilous; syphilis runs rampant throughout Black people and, therefore, they are someone to be placed in a secondary capacity. That is particularly in line with the eugenics program where White births are encouraged and Black births are discouraged.

In 1932, the infectious agent of HIV was first tested on sheep in Iceland. That agent is called Visna. In 1932, in conjunction with the Tuskegee syphilis program, they were testing the infectious agent of HIV on an island nation. We have Visna as 30 percent of the sequences of the HIV here today. So, 1932 not only is significant for the start of a push for eugenics, i.e. a White birth order, but also the start of the testing of the infectious agent of HIV in AIDS.

SM: Can you give us a timeline of the case that you brought before the federal courts?

BG: September of 1998 was the first legal action on this issue and that was even prior to the discovery of the flowchart, which was not until February 1999. We brought this case in the federal court for the purposes of proving and showing the evidence overwhelmingly suggests and concludes that HIV is synthetic. It is also supported in the Congressional Records, in particular House Resolution 15090. The original lawsuit was rejected on the basis that the synthetic origin of AIDS was a frivolous issue. This matter went all the way to the Supreme Court.

We are currently bringing the lawsuit again with respect to the origin of AIDS/U.S. manufacture of AIDS, vis-Ã*-vis through a federal complaint which we now have pending in the San Diego Federal Court. This case is with respect to a police kidnapping of me last July, where I was beaten and injected with something and discarded by the police. However, their records show that I was never arrested.

The issue there is that I was making irrational statements that the federal government made AIDS. As the experts can clearly show, my statements are not irrational. My website indicates that I have some 30 scientists and medical doctors who have posted their conclusions of my research, and for that I am grateful. Their credentials are impeccable and we believe that this federal case, as it relates to the San Diego police, will allow for this issue to come forth again. We believe we have the strongest case yet, with regard to proving that HIV is synthetic and has been produced by the United States and others.

SM: Do you think the program Global 2000 is used in complicity with the U.S. Special Virus Program?

BG: I believe what Global 2000 represents is a shadow government where a few elitist White men—in such organizations as the Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Relations and, even to some extent, the Illuminati—have made a plan by which two billion of the world’s people will perish vis-Ã*-vis these synthetic biological agents. We believe it is the underpinning of what I call the “African Holocaust.â€�

I also think it is reflected in the National Security Study Memorandum 200, which was drawn up by Henry Kissinger in 1974 and taken to the World Population Conference held in Bucharest, Romania. It was adopted and approved by many of the nations of the world, including some African puppet government dictators at that time.

The Global 2000 plan is a hideous plan that magnifies the Hitler/Jewish Holocaust by about 50 percent with respect to the number of people that have been planned for extermination. Much of that is the Global 2000 plan and the King Alfred Plan. But it was also drawn up in the U.S. Public Law 91-213 that was signed on March 16, 1970 by President Richard Nixon which, in essence, authorizes HIV/AIDS and the development of HIV/AIDS as a matter of Public Law of the United States of America.

SM: I want to go back to the federal court case which was refused by the Supreme Court without comment.

BG: The case in 2000 was a full disclosure as it relates to the Freedom of Information Act. We were seeking full disclosure of the Special Virus Program vis-Ã*-vis the courts. They were presented with the flowchart document, as well as a May 15, 2000 letter from Dr. Victoria Cargill, the medical officer of the Office of AIDS Research of the National Institute of Health. Dr. Cargill declared in the letter that the flowchart is the flowchart of the human immune deficiency virus. Here, we have an official document from the United States saying the same thing.

In May of 2000, it was declared as the flowchart of the immune deficiency virus from the top medical officer of the United States. Yet, the Justice Department merely set the documentation aside. Dr. Cargill located the flowchart, as well as some of the Progress Reports of the Special Virus Program from the archives of the National Cancer Institute and wrote a letter to that effect.

She referred this information to the National Cancer Institute to Dr. Allen S. Rabson, who quickly destroyed all the information for a good reason. We found that Dr. Allen S. Rabson, the current deputy director of the National Cancer Institute, was on the 1971 HIV/AIDS developmental committee and his name is located in the Progress Report.

SM: There were 15 Progress Reports?

BG: Yes, covering 1963 through 1978. Then, we had HIV/AIDS in mass infection in Africa and Manhattan. In Phase V of the flowchart document, you see that the special virus that they were developing was going to be placed in clinical trials. Here we have conclusive proof again that vaccines were complemented, not contaminated. The smallpox vaccine that went to Africa was complemented with the U.S. special virus HIV. Also, they recruited promiscuous White homosexuals in Manhattan—1,068 of them, I believe—and they were all given an experimental Hepatitis B vaccine and that vaccine was also complemented with HIV/AIDS.

Therefore, the question to pose for the officials of our government is how a White homosexual disease transforms itself into healthy Black women. Black women are now the fastest growing group with HIV/AIDS today.

SM: In Chicago, a few months ago, a young couple went to visit their daughter in a major hospital and found a needle hanging in her leg. The parents had the needle examined and it was found to be laced with AIDS. Would this be among the methods AIDS is administered to victims?

BG: Again, we refer back to the 15 Progress Reports of the federal program which details every experiment and every contract. What you find is a conglomeration of colleges, hospitals, medical centers and foundations—all working together for the sole purpose of the development, implementation and proliferation of the HIV virus, through the human genome, primarily the Black genome.

Sultan Muhammad (SM): In the early seventies, during the so-called “sickle cell anemia� scare, could the purpose of the blood collection (said to be done to determine if that person had the disease) have been to acquire enough blood from Blacks to use in the study of biological warfare?

Boyd Graves (BG): That’s exactly correct. That program was again a part of the Special Virus Program. The program began officially in 1962. However, the research shows that it began a lot longer ago than that. The collection of blood, the tinkering with the Black genome, has been going on throughout the entire 20th century.

We have a memorandum from February 1948, Foreign Policy Statement No. 21 written by George W. McKenna, where it states emphatically that the United States has to get over the niceties. That the United States had to develop/devise a scheme to deal with the burgeoning population of the Third World.

We further cite a Time magazine article from June 3, 1946, “Better Than The Bomb,� where the May 1946 Appropriation Hearing is discussing a biological agent. We believe that they’re discussing the inducement of visna into the human genome. But we find in the 1971 Progress Report, on page 39, that there is a statement by the United States that visna has not yet been associated with human disease. Today, according to the Journal of American Medical Association (JANA) in a 1987 paper, they conclude that HIV/AIDS evolved from visna.

What is shown here are the connection and the nexus of how visna has been manipulated through gene splicing and placed into the human genome so that we would have no natural affinity towards the visna. Indeed, it would be an acquired immune deficiency.

That’s the exact language of the congressional testimony in June 1969. They were working on something for which no natural immunity could have been acquired, and that is from the congressional records that set House Resolution 15090, page 129 and the heading there is “Synthetic Biological Agents.�

So what we find is that this inducement and development of HIV/AIDS, as they proclaim it to be a mystery illness from nature, is, indeed, a designer virus from the laboratories of the United States of America.


SM: In reading the June 1969 Senate Subcommittee Hearing on Chemical and Biological Weapons, I was surprised to learn what had been developed during that time.

BG: They go into specific detail as it relates to, not only a lethal agent—HIV and AIDS—but also incapacitating agents which we believe have manifested themselves in chronic fatigue syndrome. There is also the Gulf War Illness, where Dr. Garth Nicholson proclaimed is the HIV genome with one gene missing. Therefore, this June 1969 House Resolution 15090 shows that they were working on a synthetic biological agent; in the language of the Pentagon, “an agent that would lead to worldwide scourge or a Black Death type plague.� We believe that they are talking about AIDS.


SM: Who is Dr. Robert Gallo?

BG: Dr. Robert Gallo is one of the primary scientists involved in the Special Virus Program. He located a human retrovirus, an RNA dependant, DNA polymerase, in 1971. That is in the Progress Report, page 105. This isolation was, and is, a plural effusion from a 5-year-old Black American boy that was used as the entity that all has fused from. It’s the research of Dr. Gallo, coupled with the Special Virus Program, in which he had a green light to do whatever it took to develop a special virus for the purpose of population stabilization.

In simpler terms, he received a patent (U.S. Patent No. 4647773) to continue the production of HIV in April 1984. As far back as 1971, he was noted as a project officer. Consequently, President Clinton, before he left the office of the presidency, pardoned Dr. Gallo for any acts relative to this issue.


SM: Your research reports that there was/is a cure for AIDS.

BG: Absolutely. The Flow Chart has five phases. In Phase IV A are immunological controlled experiments where they developed the inhibitors, the vaccines, as well as the cure for HIV/AIDS before it was released. There is a cure for AIDS patented in, I believe, October 1997, a one-time injection that eradicates the HIV/AIDS in the blood system without any side effects.


SM: Were you diagnosed with AIDS?

BG: I had a diagnosis. There is some speculation that it might even have been false-positive. There are many conditions. One of the conditions that I had at that time allowed, for Black people in particular, to test false-positive for HIV/AIDS, whereby you were placed on medicines with tremendous side effects. These medicines led to liver failure that killed a number of persons.

In November 2001, I took the U.S. patented cure and, for the last 33 months from a physical standpoint, have been in the midst of rejuvenation.

Therefore, we do know that the cure is available; it works; we believe it is suppressed simply because not enough people have been killed yet.


SM: What is this cure called?

BG: Tetrasil. It has a second name, which is Imusil. The patent number is 5676977.


SM: Who has the patent on this drug?

BG: The patent was issued to Rabbi Dr. Marvin Antelman of Morantech Corporation in Providence, Rhode Island. In my research and contact with Rabbi Dr. Antelman, he told me he had a college relationship with Dr. Gallo, who had stolen something that he and others had been working on. That led me to think that perhaps Dr. Antelman was given the AIDS cure as a payback by Dr. Gallo. There is a connection between the AIDS invention and the AIDS cure patent program.

There is a tetra silver that is used in swimming pools. We found a similarity of the blood in your body with respect to the water in a swimming pool. If you put something in a disc in your swimming pool, then all the water becomes clear. The same is true with this one-time injection of purifying the blood in the body. The process is identical to how you purify the water in the swimming pool, and I believe that the swimming pool product is called tetra silver. Dr. Antelman changed the name from Tetrasil to Imusil.


SM: Who is Dr. Vincent Gammil?

BG: Dr. Gammil is a friend of mine who led me to the Tetrasil. He was also instrumental in supervising Dr. Roberto Munoz, of Mexico, when I received the injection in November 2001.


SM: Did you receive the injection in Mexico?

BG: No, I received it in Southern California.


SM: How were you able to get the drug?

BG: The chemical composition of the Tetrasil is Ag4O4 (Silver 4/Oxygen 4). It is a relatively simple compound to make.

We could flood Africa with it and bolster the individuals who are suffering and laboring under the throes of HIV and AIDS, so that we have a chance to save the continent. As we speak, the first trials of the cure, Tetrasil, have gotten underway, with only three individuals in Kinshasa taking the injection.

A recent report was that the individuals are doing well and are delighted to have had the AIDS cure. Therefore, we know it works and we know that it is suppressed.


SM: Thank you.

(Dr. Graves earned his Juris Doctor degree from the Ohio Northern University College of Law in May 1993, almost 20 years after receiving a B.S. degree in Engineering from the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland in 1975. He has been a Director of AIDS Concerns for the international medical research foundation, Common Cause, headquartered in Sudbury, Ontario, Canada for the last five years. For more information, visit www.boydgraves.com.)



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[IfasehunReincarnated]

can't knock this kinda hook up. now somebody say farrakhan aint got guts again!

[Baba Ahmed]

I did not read this entire interview, so may have missed a few points. If we recall it was one of the NOI doctors, Abdul 'Alim, also a sista Doctor based in NYC and some Kenyan doctors and researchers who'd attempted to get produced a product dealing with use interferons. Japanese manufacturers were sought to produce it. They proposed of course including major dietary changes. They'd documented overwhelming favorable results as used in Kenya. I don't know what happened.

In spite of some drawbacks I see in the NOI's version of what Malcolm started, Muhammad Speaks, it remains the only widely distributed weekly Newspaper to report what's happening in the Black World.

It will also be helpful for such a paper to promote a fund raiser for this brutha. He badly needs financial assistance. If anyone of us in America can do it, the NOI can!!!

When Dr. Graves spoke here in Atlanta recently, he offered his "Flow Chart" in book form for sale. Few purchased copies of it. Maybe the $30.00 price tag jolted folk. While here he stayed at Dr. Andou's, a natural healer from Ghana, place set up by one of our sistas. This is another area the NOI can be useful in doing.

I've met and shook hands with Dr. Graves. I looked deeply into his eyes and briefly scoped his skin texture.... heard him speak. Firm shake; strong clear voice (not raspy like mine), clear eyes and skin unblotched.

Magic Johnson and he are wonders to behold for anyone who has seen other folk deep into the downward sprirals of chemotherapies and other drugs commonly easing HIV and AIDS infected folk into death. Both have been dealing for over 10 years and still are dealing.

I guess its noticed that all the AZT talk has quietly left the scene. One big obstacle in Dr. Graves' path? The UN refuses to permit him to address its body. At least that was the last word I had.

I've heard and read folk say'n stuff like: damn who or how it was started, we must stop AIDS devastations. They fail to realize that such info is part of an effective diagonsis. For the person and for us who still refuse to believe what former President of South Afrikkka Botha said (maybe it was his father): "we, he said, learned our ways from Amerikkka's Segregation laws and from Hitler's examples!"

Yep that was the patterns followed in S.A.'s Apartheid.

[Blakman]

We are not dying of aids!! Brothers and sisters, I know that it sounds crazy, but we really aren't dying of aids.What I mean is that this hole HIV causes AIDS thing is a complete lie and fabrication, and the faster we,the african community can figure this out the better off we will be. Family, don't take my word for it,go out there and start doing the research for yourself and start finding out what the real truth is and not the propaganda that some of this good old white folks love to throw around with their corporate controld media. Just look at what is going on in south africa and places like uganda, they have rejected the opinion of whites that hiv causes aids. Don't forget that in the past, they used to say that by the year 2000, Haiti and half of the african continent would be wiped out by the HIV virus. Now, how is that possible when the african continent is growing so rapidly?? Withen a couple of dacade we will be a billion people deep on the mother continent alone.I'm not even talking about the millions of africans in the diaspora and all over the world. The truth is that white people are desperately trying to control our population, and this hole hiv concoction is part of the plan. For more information go to 7mac.com and check out LIBRadio.com it's a great internet radio station for our people. WAAAKKE UP AFRICAN PEOPLE AND STOP PLAYING THE GAME.Hotep

[Baba Ahmed]

I'm for one not saying that negative HIV infection leads to AIDS; lets avoid get'n paralyzed in analysis. Both exist. Both are curable. You wanna encourage folk to do some research, urge them to research the nature of dis-eases. If u think that our people aren't dying from which ever HIV or AIDS is not the focus here. The brutha has accused and has proof, documented proof not opinions, that it was man made. I've done my own research re AIDS.

In the beginning, around 1981, it became public news in NYC. During the mid '80s thru the late '90s, I did research looking for its orign and concluded in my layman's way that it indeed is man made... federal gov't researched and developed and funded and tested on America citizens, in NYC and San Francisco I discovered. In Manhatten it was loosed from man placed attache cases in subway stations; the "F" train in particular from Manhatten to Queens. I rode the train many many times and was highly pissed when I peep'd it. There is at least one court case in S.Francisco by a man who proved get'n infected by sprayed from heliocopters on the people near its bay area. He won. Don't know how long after he lived.

Don't underestimate your enemies. Another thing u can do: visit the many non-profit programs funded to help folk to live with AIDS as long as they can. None are cured to my knowledge. Which is another thing Dr. Graves is trying to tell our ignorant people. He even gives the formula for chemically making what he's taking. One thing our folk who're dedicated and pledged to a particular organization need to do is to realize that no one group has all the answers to our myriad of problems! None!!! Not One!!!

You say the Afrikan Continent is growing; what do u mean? The population for the entire Continent or the numbers for one or two Afrikan Nations? You must be aware that there are at least 50 different Afrikan Nations!

For your information, I personally have known three close friends who I've seen before they passed on show virtually all the symptoms of Acquired Immuno Deficiency Syndrome. Its a painful sight to say the least. I've also witnessed folk who broke free from Western Allopathic treatments and gave themselves to folk who use so-called Natural healing techniques and are healed!

I suggest that before u call something or anyone a liar, u b prepared to show and prove. Otherwise shut your mouth! Like a fool, u'll harm someone without intending to. Its a dangerous being who has a little bit of knowledge. Instead of questioning and tryna learn they accuse while inferring they know. My brutha your words come as from ignorance. Not knowledge. And please do not feel attacked; rather feel put in check, as in chess. A move to safety can be made or its called CHECK MATE!

[NarMer the 7th SuN]

peace


true indeed baba ahmed, my views definitely concur with yours in regards to some of the above commentary. The fact is AIDS is a real life issue and it obviously beyond detrimental in its effects upon people of color.

I read this article two times, and the thing is his theory (which has great documented evidence) could possibly be truth. And acknowledging the fact there have been a numerous amount of experiments conducted on us globally eversince these bastards started advancing in "their" science.., I wouldn't doubt if the above statements in this article were extremely close to being right and exact.

It was in a sense frightening to read because this is the center to my realm of knowledge.., I am a PRE-MED student (I want to preserve life, and hope to counteract what these crooked scientists have already planned and will plan). The things this Boyd Graves stated regarding the black genome, the virus... the entire break down are ALL ACCURATE. I was in shock because I never applied what I knew to this matter, I've contemplated the origin of AIDS before many times and have always thought is was man-made., but never applied my scientific knowledge and understanding to the specifics he mentioned. I'm really dumbfounded.

I'm sick, really sick.......disgusted.

peace

NarMer the 7th SuN

[Blakman]

In no way i'm I trying to disrespect the honorable minister farrakhan, but he also might be misinformed. What you have to understant is that, we are at war right now and it just seems that the african community don't want to look at all sides of this AIDS debate.In the early1980's when this hole AIDS thing started Uganda who had at the time a population of a little over 6 million was said to be wiped out by the year 2000,but the Uganden government said that their population now is a little over 12 million people now in that country. Now you really have to think about this for a minute!! How is it possible for a country so hard hit with this epidemic be growing in population ??? The truth is that it is a plan hoax!!! This story is not only exclusive to Uganda. The same thing is going on in south africa where president Mbeki as come out publicaly saying that he and is government do not find enough cause to beleive that HIV cause AIDS!! They believe that the people who are dying right now in south africa and unfortunently the rest of africa has well,are dying of malnutrition and the lack of proper sanitation!!! My brother Ahmed don't judge me until you have look through all the facts, just as I have. Peace!!!

[Baba Ahmed]

Originally Posted by NarMer the 7th SuN

peace


true indeed baba ahmed, my views definitely concur with yours in regards to some of the above commentary. The fact is AIDS is a real life issue and it obviously beyond detrimental in its effects upon people of color.

I read this article two times, and the thing is his theory (which has great documented evidence) could possibly be truth. And acknowledging the fact there have been a numerous amount of experiments conducted on us globally eversince these bastards started advancing in "their" science.., I wouldn't doubt if the above statements in this article were extremely close to being right and exact.

It was in a sense frightening to read because this is the center to my realm of knowledge.., I am a PRE-MED student (I want to preserve life, and hope to counteract what these crooked scientists have already planned and will plan). The things this Boyd Graves stated regarding the black genome, the virus... the entire break down are ALL ACCURATE. I was in shock because I never applied what I knew to this matter, I've contemplated the origin of AIDS before many times and have always thought is was man-made., but never applied my scientific knowledge and understanding to the specifics he mentioned. I'm really dumbfounded.

I'm sick, really sick.......disgusted.
peace
NarMer the 7th SuN

Harmony NarMer the 7th SuN! {when u've time will u break down u're username for me?}

Pre-med huh? Good! But first no more disgust, ya heah??? Nawww naw! U got work to do and are partially prepared and preparing to use what u kno and get what u must get of useful knowledge.

Two things I suggest, if u haven't already started: as u study allopathic philosophy and means, please get into one of the many natural healing ways. U ever hear of Dr. Jewel Pookrum? A trained and former practicing medical Surgeon? If not check her out.

I read two books in particular that spiced my search for evidence I could understand re origins of AIDS. 1. Chemical and Biological Warfare and 2. A Higher Form of Killing. Since I've delved into many other references and reports.

Re the transmissions of AIDS a young friend, who is $600 away from taking the medical board's examinations to become an M.D., told me of something in the anus, alone that men involved in homosexual acts i.e., butt hole'n, contract this deadly disease; that men do not contract it via vagina sex; i.e., if a sista is free of it. He named it for me, I forgot it; but intend to ask'im soon as the pressures of his forthcoming exams are eased.

Now we need folk trained in allopathic medicines; that's part of our ancient stories too. I recall long ago reading that Mao Tse Tung adivsed their efforts to mix the best of Western medicine with the best of Traditional Chinese Healings. There's a book that briefly deals with that approach; I have one. Its named A Barefoot Doctor's Manual; its subbed "The American Translation of the Official Chinese ParaMedical Manual." 950 pgs 5x7 or so soft cover. Very small font used. Check a bit of Table of Contents:

Chpt 1 UNDERSTANDING THE HUMAN BODY, the last sec in this is "Traditional Chinese Medicine, Understanding of the Human Body" It, the book, goes on to list info on: Hygiene; Intro to Diagnostic Techniques; Therapeutic Techniques; Birth Control Planning; Diagnosis & Treatment of Common Diseases; Chinese Medicinal Plants in 2 sec: Intro; i.e., general facts & 2: Common Chinese Medicine herbs. As I'm sure u kno that properties, where grown and best to grow etc etc etc.

Tell ya what, if u'd like; name a common disease; I'll see if its listed and post what's written; then u grade it. OK?

Then back to your disgust do like a Kongolese brutha says: tell it to get out of u! Be firm; for it has no place in u and is a nuisance!!! U're training to fulfill one of the vital needs we have as a people. As u've probably noticed more and more M.D.s are leaping into the Herb Industry, now controlled by major pharmaceuticals, and soon will be priced out the reaches of most people. The herbs the treatments and over standardization of slickly packaged products. I mean they're more and more b n marketed as if a herb will treat all people the same.

BTW if u'd read one of the Kongolese brutha's books, just one, I feel certain - if that's possible - that u will be inspired to get deeper into your studies. For u will see how this system pails in view of what he reports. His name is Kimbwandende Kia Bunseki Fu-Kiau, the book: Self-Healing Power and Therapy He's a Ph.D. And now lives in America. Another, especially for anyone who deals with children: Kindezi: The Kongo Art of Babysitting

I don't know what u intend to specialize in; but remember that Western medical practitioners generally have placed Hippocrates' creed in hiding. The buck has become their deity. That's cool, for we know who the original "Father of Medicine" is. And keep in mind, like I was taught and I'm no where near being a doctor of anything:

Healer! First Heal Thyself!!!

No need to be disgusted; for to do so is to expect to see in life what this nation's high sounding words describe. We now know that its all bullshit, or in Marimba Ani's learned language: Rhetorical Ethics. Shines on the outside; i.e. for the masses to see and believe; down right low and dirty "their truths" on the inside for the ruling classes. Can we agree its subterfuge? Dr. John Henry Clarke says Europeans, of course generally, have no conscience so do not be surprised by their actions.

To return to this thread, ck out the works of Dr. Sebi; Dr. Llaila O. Afrika; Dr. (M.D./Ph.D) Jewel Pookrum - all have websites. And there's a brutha/preacher outta Florida; makes and sells a formula called: The Blessed Tea, I think that's the name. Soon as I find his name I'll post it; he also has a website.

And take my word for it treating and curing AIDS ain't as all that the major media makes it to be. When u get time, read a discounted "theory" today from a Medical Doctor who worked closely with the original Kellogg folk, its named: Toxemia Explained.

Stay steady; keep studying; stay consistent and constantly persevere - u can only plant seeds. Our children's children's children's children will show more of what we envision to see today.

A Luta Continua

[Baba Ahmed]

Originally Posted by blakman

In no way i'm I trying to disrespect the honorable minister farrakhan, but he also might be misinformed. What you have to understant is that, we are at war right now and it just seems that the african community don't want to look at all sides of this AIDS debate.In the early1980's when this hole AIDS thing started Uganda who had at the time a population of a little over 6 million was said to be wiped out by the year 2000,but the Uganden government said that their population now is a little over 12 million people now in that country. Now you really have to think about this for a minute!! How is it possible for a country so hard hit with this epidemic be growing in population ??? The truth is that it is a plan hoax!!! This story is not only exclusive to Uganda. The same thing is going on in south africa where president Mbeki as come out publicaly saying that he and is government do not find enough cause to beleive that HIV cause AIDS!! They believe that the people who are dying right now in south africa and unfortunently the rest of africa has well,are dying of malnutrition and the lack of proper sanitation!!! My brother Ahmed don't judge me until you have look through all the facts, just as I have. Peace!!!

My brutha to judge u is not my thing. To criticize your position is. Mind u, u appear to be citine two examples as proof for your assertions that there's a hoax somewhere in the endemic called AIDS. Yes there's been some doctoring of statistics, as I've read and heard.

I don't know if HIV does or does not lead to or causes AIDS. We both can agree, I think that AIDS exist as a deadly disease. I say it is a man made disease that has been sought since the early 1900s. And has been named differently. One trick the controlled medical professions use in their teachings is to give different names to a same disease. In my opinion.

Its healthy to understand that in this society everything is for sale, including people. To maximize profits and the bottom line drives the medical/pharmaceutical industries just as to educate folk is more and more showing its ugly head of b n cost effective. Just as religion and other spheres of life are, medicine is a tool of this state's basic reason to be: to conquer, to control, and as is plainly seen today to rule over all others outside the flame of White Supremacy.

U wanna help solve our own problems with anything resembling AIDS? Look into an herb that Vusamazulu Mutwa publicized back in 1999 via the internet. Its name is, and check me for correct spelling, SUNDERLANDIA. He was bum rushed out of this country. Then there're untold numbers of sistas and bruthas right here in America who can and do heal what's called AIDS. If u will look into its original meaning hiding behind its publically exposed name of AIDS and then study how does one deal with an immune deficiency, u'd see.

We are a very fortunate folk, ina sense. WE have within our grasp all the human resources available to be a Powerful people. But the Ghettos created in our own minds make the Ghettos of existence appear damn near all powerful. Some of us get lost in the shuffling of the decks of ideologies and or beliefs. We play the hands dealt to us, not realizing that part of plans for control include designs to "guide" so-called Revolutionaries. Ain't nothing new, my brutha.

Lets be clear about one factor here: u to me are insignificant; I to u am also insignificant. Both of us together are insignificant, when we bicker with each other while "something" is killing our people right here in our own homeland! OK HIV causes AIDS is a "hoax" as u call it. Then u give a name to whatever is wiping our asses out, in lands where large numbers of Black folk live; tell it to me and tell me how to cure it. Will u believe that I seldom read a major media newspaper or view major media TV "shows?" I use where I live as my barometer.

Statistics, as a discipline, I know very little about. I do know, or rather have heard that statistics can be doctored to prove any damn thing! One question I keep tucked in mi mind: whose statistics are used? who was surveyed? who formulated the questions? WHO PAID TO HAVE A STATISTICAL STUDY DONE????

If I'm really interested. But I've walked the streets of Bklyn, Queens, Long Island, and of course the used to be called Big Apple, specifically Harlem and now Atlanta; I've visited organizations who're paid to help AIDS victims; know folk who work with'em; have lost friends and a coupla relatives who did not say they had AIDS but whose visible symptoms I'd seen before. One thing I'll say and dare anyone to prove me wrong that most definitely the folks I've seen suffered Immune system breakdowns. And believe that most of the drugs commonly prescribed aggravate folk's problem and with a dab of radiation treatments, we can see the end of their lives in this realm as b n near.

To hell with all the talk; especially about who's word is right or who's incorrect. Qualified folk can argue that. I'm about ea one treating, feeding, helping when he or she can. Actively!

I post a little to show that not only AIDS but many other diseases we suffer are gov't man made! If not man made, damn sho man distributed. And vaccinations are one means.

Now do me a favor, help an old man to understand what u're asserting. Present some documentations to support your baseless, to this point, claim that Uganda did not suffer an attack that produced or introduced AIDS into its people. I forget the French doctor's name who was reported to have came up with a "cure" and had tested it on himself. He sold it to Uganda's gov't and soon after Bam! Quietly he disappeared from public view and loudly news was reported of it, AIDS, ravaging Uganda. Maybe that was a hoax too.

But surely u know that AIDS exist right here in the mean streets and beds of America! And that homosexual sexual acts to fill a hole created to excrete but not 2 b packed like a sausage is still contributing. But I do not think that's the only ingredient. For butt holes have been get'n plug'd for thousands of years; yet this thing called AIDS has to have other peas in its boiling pots of existence.

Do some more research to not only know more; but also to do more....

[NarMer the 7th SuN]

peace all


blkman, not trying to discredit you or any of your ideas. But, I will reiterate that aids is a serious situation and it is flourishing at a rapid rate that's exponential brotha. It is still possible for a country's population to have successive births (how long people live is another question) with the existence of HIV or its product, if ACTIVATED,..aids (lets us remember and acknowledge the fact that..just because one may be diagnose with HIV, doesn't necessarily mean that certain person will die a death of AIDS). Seeds will be born regardless, especially in those realms of the globe, also at an exponential rate. To deny its spread of infection will only unfortunately minimize a serious and major threat to the people of the sun (and many others). This use of warfare has to be exposed, examined carefully, and dealt with asap.

The motherland has been a victim of many atrocities, an abundance of them; and the presence of aids and HIV within it...spreading like it is...., would definitely not surprise me. Given people are dying in response to other life-threatening factors that exist, I am sure AIDS ranks up there amongst the most eminent ones...and if not..it sure as hell as the potential to.

and in all reality, they attempt to subdue and even obliterate us over here in the states mentally through a subliminal functioning, psychologic and brainwashing assimilation (because we would decipher the "physical combat" with ease)..., so that tells you..elsewhere......there is no limit to what lucifer will do...when he's not on his home turf.

the entirety of everything that is occuring globally makes me sick.., word is bond. I continue to read this article over and over., then I reflect on the situations at hand. It's to a point where I'm just hostile all the time.

the only justification I can think of for the devil and his advocates for their wrong-doings, inhumane acts, atrocious behavior, and crimes committed upon our people and our close relatives (that should be even closer mentally)...is that...he is an ENDANGERED SPECIES, doing what he has to do in order to survive in an uncivilized manner.


working class stand up.

peace

NaRmer the 7th SuN


p.s. Baba Amed, I'll be more than happy to explain my name at a later time, just check back in this post...or look for a private message.

[NarMer the 7th SuN]

PEACE

baba ahmed, many of the works you cited, and information you have submitted... i am well aware of. I do thank you for submitting such information though.

as far as my interest: GENERAL SURGERY. These hands are as still as I don't even know what. I have a feeling in the near future, alot of precise cutting and sealing will have to be utilized.

as far as my disgust: It's controlled., and I channel it in a different directions...1, I'm sure you are aware of. But because I can vent..I'm at peace, but I do demand change...severely., and am completely willing to rectify whatever problem i/we may encounter.


just showing my gratitude.

hotep

NarMer

[Baba Ahmed]

Originally Posted by NarMer the 7th SuN

PEACE

baba ahmed, many of the works you cited, and information you have submitted... i am well aware of. I do thank you for submitting such information though.

as far as my interest: GENERAL SURGERY. These hands are as still as I don't even know what. I have a feeling in the near future, alot of precise cutting and sealing will have to be utilized.

as far as my disgust: It's controlled., and I channel it in a different directions...1, I'm sure you are aware of. But because I can vent..I'm at peace, but I do demand change...severely., and am completely willing to rectify whatever problem i/we may encounter.


just showing my gratitude.

hotep

NarMer

Hotep!

I hope folk are weighing your words carefully. Yeah 'cause an unventalbe venter is doomed to implode!

And the references I made hopefully will benefit some one, u kno?

Let me express my gratitude for mouf'n on stuff I'm not especially qualified to except via experiences and skimmed teachings that were applied at home mostly. U've not pointed to shortcomings I have re total body health. I'm not one who while browsing in my favorite health mkt, stop some one and say: that herb will solve your problem. I kno enuff to know that each person differs in family stories, constitutions, "life style" dietary habits, etc.

But I'm game to try stuff at home, and I give thanks that until our children leave our immediate domain, medical doctors they knew not. Nor were they vaccinated; except one who travelled to West Afrika as a pre-teen. HOWEVER, the sista doctor who gave him a anti malaria shot told me it probably would be ineffective by the time he arrived: new strains would be there. Plus a herbalist told me of formula to flush his system. He said he did it. So no problema. Then there's something about the Sun over West Afrika!

U make a reference that is often overlooked. Even regarding the so-called "common cold" and lets say what's called the "flu." Many societal factors contribute to their obvious appearances of our thousands of diseases here. I mean, damn, the soil, water and now moreso the very air we breathe is played with. Add to that a general lack of knowledge of how to practice prevention; e.g., one teacher said the way we treat ourselves in the Fall shows itself in the Winter and so on. So like here now we're in the last of an "Indian Summer." Been here about a week and a half. Folk b wearing bootie shorts, plunging neck lines, short sleeved shirts and sockless sandals. Enjoying the warmth of an Oct./Nov. Sun. U tell'em, as I do, that this life energizing Sun Rays are not the same as those of July. They look at me and give me a smile I see often; I call it humor the old man smile.

Know another thing that's funny to me - not ha-ha funny? The increasing numbers of "seedless" fruit! While simultaneously there's explosions of radio talk-mericials touting now eat 9 portions of fruit ea day. Yep, genetic engineered fruit and veggies. Providing unsolicited preconceived quanities of "necessary" vitamins and minerals!

What'd old folk used to say: son! eat yo spinach; it'll make u strong. Now our benevolent pharmaceutical/gov't siamese twins don't even announce it; they just do it! And positioning themselves to lock our butts down if we save natural seeds!

Namaste....

[NarMer the 7th SuN]

PEACE!

haha...

very ill post BaBa Ahmed.. I applaud you. Right and Exact. Especially with the commentary related to how people "overlook" certain things. So very true.


peace


NaRmer (7)

[Kweku_Omowale]

willian cooper was a formal naval officer and secret service agent in his book,beholda plae horse,he fully explain that in 1969 the amerikkkan government gota loan from world health organization to develop the aids/hiv virus with the intent to control population,this book is not sci fi,it is factual,the cia killed him,because he even explained the new world worder, also doctor francis wellis in the isis book explain a lots of things and she recomends other books as well,it has everything t do with the price of drugs,they dont want to find the cure,if they really wanted,they would have find the cure long time ago,the virus was spread the homosexuals,blacks and other undesirables,this was their plans,i strongly recommend people to read BEHOLD A PALE HORSE by willian cooper.

[Blakman]

Hear baba ahmed, just some information you would like to know.

By Christine Johnson

J. P. van Niekerk SA HIV/AIDS fraud suspect

The AIDS establishment has managed to convince many people that the HIV antibody tests (ELISA, IFA and Western blot) are "99.5% accurate". In this article Christine Johnson from HEAL Los Angeles, lists conditions documented in the scientific literature known to cause positives on these tests, and gives her references.

It is expected that this list will generate much discussion and dissension. For the time being, a few clarifications should be made at the outset.

Just because something is on the list doesn't mean that it will definitely, or even probably, cause a false-positive. It depends on what antibodies the individual carries; as well as the characteristics of each particular test kit.

For instance, some, but not all, people who have had blood transfusions, prior pregnancies or an organ transplant will make HLA antibodies. And some, but not all, test kits (both ELISA and Western blot) will be contaminated with HLA antigens to which these antibodies can react. Only if these two conditions coincide might you get a false-positive due to HLA cross-reactivity.

Some things are more likely than others to cause false-positives. And some things that we aren't aware of yet, but which may be documented in the future, may cause false-positives. Some of the factors on the list have been documented only for ELISA, some for both ELISA and Western blot (WB).

Some people may be eager to argue that if a factor is only known to cause false-positives on ELISA, this problem won't be carried over to the WB, so everything should be OK. But remember, a WB is positive by virtue of accumulating enough individual positive bands to add up to the total required by whatever criteria you use to interpret it (39) So the more exposures a person has had to foreign antigens, proteins and infectious agents, the more various antibodies he or she will have in their system, and the more likely it is that there will be several cross-reacting antibodies, enough to make the WB positive.

It is to be noted that all AIDS risk groups (and Africans as well), but not the general US or Western European population, have this problem in common: they have been exposed to a plethora of foreign antigens and proteins. This is why people in the AIDS "risk groups" tend to have positive WBs (i.e., to be considered "HIV-infected") and people in the general population don't. However, even people in the low-risk populations may have false-positive Western blots for poorly understood reasons.(47)

Since false-positives to every single HIV protein have been documented (36), how do you know the positive WB bands represent the various proteins to HIV, or just a collection of false-positive bands reacting to several different non-HIV antibodies?


Factors Known to Cause False-Positive HIV Antibody Test Results

Anti-carbohydrate antibodies (52, 19, 13)
Naturally-occurring antibodies (5, 19)
Passive immunization: receipt of gamma globulin or immune globulin (as prophylaxis against infection which contains antibodies)(18, 26, 60, 4, 22, 42, 43, 13)
Leprosy (2, 25)
Tuberculosis (25)
Mycobacterium avium (25)
Systemic lupus erythematosus (15, 23)
Renal (kidney) failure (48, 23, 13)
Hemodialysis/renal failure (56, 16, 41, 10, 49)
Alpha interferon therapy in hemodialysis patients (54)
Flu (36)
Flu vaccination (30, 11, 3, 20, 13, 43)
Herpes simplex I (27)
Herpes simplex II (11)
Upper respiratory tract infection (cold or flu)(11)
Recent viral infection or exposure to viral vaccines (11)
Pregnancy in multiparous women (58, 53, 13, 43, 36)
Malaria (6, 12)
High levels of circulating immune complexes (6, 33)
Hypergammaglobulinemia (high levels of antibodies) (40, 33)
False positives on other tests, including RPR (rapid plasma reagent) test for syphilis (17, 48, 33, 10, 49)
Rheumatoid arthritis (36)
Hepatitis B vaccination (28, 21, 40, 43)
Tetanus vaccination (40)
Organ transplantation (1, 36)
Renal transplantation (35, 9, 48, 13, 56)
Anti-lymphocyte antibodies (56, 31)
Anti-collagen antibodies (found in gay men, haemophiliacs, Africans of both sexes and people with leprosy)(31)
Serum-positive for rheumatoid factor, antinuclear antibody (both found in rheumatoid arthritis and other autoantibodies)(14, 62, 53)
Autoimmune diseases (44, 29, 10, 40, 49, 43): Systemic lupus erythematosus, scleroderma, connective tissue disease, dermatomyositis
Acute viral infections, DNA viral infections (59, 48, 43, 53, 40, 13)
Malignant neoplasms (cancers)(40)
Alcoholic hepatitis/alcoholic liver disease (32, 48, 40,10,13, 49, 43, 53)
Primary sclerosing cholangitis (48, 53)
Hepatitis (54)
"Sticky" blood (in Africans) (38, 34, 40)
Antibodies with a high affinity for polystyrene (used in the test kits)(62, 40, 3)
Blood transfusions, multiple blood transfusions (63, 36,13, 49, 43, 41)
Multiple myeloma (10, 43, 53)
HLA antibodies (to Class I and II leukocyte antigens)(7, 46, 63, 48, 10, 13, 49, 43, 53)
Anti-smooth muscle antibody (48)
Anti-parietal cell antibody (48)
Anti-hepatitis A IgM (antibody)(48)
Anti-Hbc IgM (48)
Administration of human immunoglobulin preparations pooled before 1985 (10)
Haemophilia (10, 49)
Haematologic malignant disorders/lymphoma (43, 53, 9, 48, 13)
Primary biliary cirrhosis (43, 53, 13, 48)
Stevens-Johnson syndrome9, (48, 13)
Q-fever with associated hepatitis (61)
Heat-treated specimens (51, 57, 24, 49, 48)
Lipemic serum (blood with high levels of fat or lipids)(49)
Haemolyzed serum (blood where haemoglobin is separated from the red cells)(49)
Hyperbilirubinemia (10, 13)
Globulins produced during polyclonal gammopathies (which are seen in AIDS risk groups)(10, 13, 48)
Healthy individuals as a result of poorly-understood cross-reactions (10)
Normal human ribonucleoproteins (48,13)
Other retroviruses (8, 55, 14, 48, 13)
Anti-mitochondrial antibodies (48, 13)
Anti-nuclear antibodies (48, 13, 53)
Anti-microsomal antibodies (34)
T-cell leukocyte antigen antibodies (48, 13)
Proteins on the filter paper (13)
Epstein-Barr virus (37)
Visceral leishmaniasis (45)
Receptive anal sex (39, 64)