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      A question of action was posed to me concerning the direction that in which we afrikan's living in this country should take to save ourselves from ourselves. As we all know on this site, the war is being lost on a grand scale and the future looks dark for our people as the social-economical fabric of this country begins to become unwound. I know we have addressed this in similar posts but I am looking for answers that are easily implementable within a community reluctant to revolutionary ideology. With this understanding, what are some immediate actions that can be taken to ergonomically empower the community?

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      I've had this discussion with other folks and my idea and plan has always been the same -target the babies in the community. (And as young as we can get them).

      OUR indiscretions are what's holding back the next generation. And when I say "our", I mean that we all need to claim responsibility for the next man's actions because our mental breakdown and the decline in our socio-economic status is going to happen on a grand scale- not just to a select few. The few effect the many and we all know that.

      We need to revitalize their minds after having served them garbage on a silver platter for so long. I have a project in mind which I can't go into too much detail about as of yet, but it will serve the purpose of collaborating like minds and instilling a hunger for the truth in the unlearned.

      Do you know how much heat I get for telling younger cousins, nieces and nephews that "Santa Claus" is "not who you think he is"? If we could start somewhere as small as that, our power circle will gain that much more momentum. Kids get excited about the gooey, gory, yucky, crazy and adrenaline powered part of life. Is there such thing as an age that's too young to educate and inspire children about the Black Power movement?

      I want to start a live forum/group/alliance that will pull together children from the hood, the projects, the ghetto (urban areas if we must be politically correct) and start re-educating them in ways that may seem more familiar to them. These same kids growing up seeing their parents pushing bricks of coke, wiping fingerprints off of guns with towels, breaking guns down and throwing them in rivers, braiding someones hair for a bag of weed instead of a couple of dollars. These kids. They watch folks do these things for self every day but I want to show them the difference between today and back when the original Black Panthers were active. Messiah Ramkisson, a poet, artist, scholar said:

      "....We went from beating-drums and violins,
      Pushing keys, showing rhythm
      To bringing guns and violence,
      Pushing keys for a living....

      ...We came from afro's and black fists -fighting the power,
      To capital and capitalist -liking the power...."

      I want them to be able to associate the past with the present and use this to create solutions for whats next. Compare and contrast having a sensible and progressive purpose for what folks do and why they do it as opposed to a foolish purpose or none at all.They need to be involved. This is where I want to start. But that's just me. Where can we start?
      "Some of the laws of revolution are so simple they seem impossible. People think that in order for something to work, it has to be complicated, but a lot of times the opposite is true. We usually reach success by putting the simple truths that we know into practice." -Assata Shakur

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sistahs_Keeper View Post
      I've had this discussion with other folks and my idea and plan has always been the same -target the babies in the community. (And as young as we can get them).
      Could not agree more. Thank you for this. Very much an advocate of teaching the young ones. To be honest, after a certain age, there isn't very much you can do to reach a person. They are going to change on their time on their volition. Children are much more susceptible to learning and changing. I work with children all the time. For people that are resistant to revolutionary ideology, teach love.

      Sometimes, you have to shock a person out of their circumstances. There was one girl that came across my path. She was about 17. I was 20 at the time. She was LOST. I won't go into the details of her life but she was lost. And I was pushing all of these books on her and trying to get her to read articles and just really trying to cram stuff down her throat. Nothing worked.

      Finally one day I looked at her and said: I love you. She didn't believe me. She'd never heard it. But I just kept telling her that I loved her. And I was patient with her accepting my love. Once she finally realized that I cared about her well-being we became friends. She calls me her big sister but she taught me way more than I ever could have taught her. Once she let her wall down, she started to ask me questions about certain things. Now, she's actively in the struggle. She started a mentoring program at her church and everything.

      As much as education and resistance are a part of this struggle, so are love and patience. That's my advice. I hope it helps. If you want help with organizing a mentoring program, let me know. I have lesson plans and ideas from my short time doing this.
      "Oh Africa! When shall be the term of thy long degradation? Behold here, even now, I pledge thee, O my Mother, that I shall devote my years to thee, shall work for thy redemption, shall love thee and be proud of thee and glory in thy power now lying dormant and shall strive to bring it to the light. Take my youth, my labors, my love, my all and do thou when I shall have died for thee, take me to thy bosom, an untamed, untamable African." -Hubert Harrison

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      Thank you all for the response. I couldn't agree more with you about making the first priority to be the children. In order to have any effective change on this area we have to control the socialization process.

      The first step to control this is turning off the TV!
      Second, create a environment that reinforces the objective.
      The third step, get involved in your local governing processes (Apply to be police officers, district reps, school board members etc..)

      It has to be a multi-faceted defense aimed at creating permanent change. I personally like the plan outlined by Dr Amos Wilson in "Blue Print for Black Power".

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      Let's not forget about the rest of us, folks who ain't young children. While I understands kids are "easy" targets but revolutionaries don't only run to the easy things but the difficult things as well. Also all plans don't have to be grand or even about books, history, or African. It's the simple things that make the biggest difference.
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      I was looking on OAU's website and they are hiring educated people with any type of benificial skill and a degree to help build this Africa that we hope to see put together in our lifetime. Thats an option. Go get a degree and work for the OAU. Sounds interesting to me but I am more for Socialism, and i'm not too familiar with the OAU's agenda after the unity happens,ya know? I woldn't wanna contribute to Black Fascism or Black Capitialism. I'm becoming more open to international ideas. You can become a doctor in Cuba for free and travel to Africa from there with your useful knowledge. The more I look at American Society, the more I want to pursue either of these goals listed above. American society wants you to believe that America is the limit. But that is not true. If som of us support the ideology of African Socialist Internationalism....then we gotta get international. I personally don't wanna die as part of the capitalist pyramid knowing that I could have made a change...just didn't pursue it. Lol, In case "Capitalist Pyramid" went over yall's head.... basically it just sums up Capitalism and its ethics. The many masses of poor peoples(bricks) make the solid foundation to support the wealthy few(the peak). But of course that peak couldn't possibly be at the stop without the bricks' strength and support holding it up there... One by one..lets take our bricks off this pyramid of thiers and place them in the pyramid of ours.
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      What I like about this posting is the feeling that something is about to get accomplished. Maybe it's just me...........maybe.

      Sis Fenix said that "...sometimes you have to shock a person out of their circumstances". . True indeed. Which is one of the main reasons why I want to focus on the most impressionable element of our communities. No person "above age" would ever be dismissed as irrelevant. As long as they are open-minded and willing to examine things in contrast, I'm all for it.

      Bro. MANIFESTDESTINY:
      LOL that tv can't do anything for me Fam! I understand exactly where you're coming from when you say to turn it off. Not to say that everything on the media screen is an obstruction to our pursuit, but living in the age of technology is a little difficult when folks can't pull themselves away and think outside (or apart from) that box.

      I said previously that kids get excited from the gooey, gory, yucky and adrenaline powered part of life and asked if there was such thing as being to young to be educated and inspired about the black power movement. If I were to answer my own question, the answer would most definitely be no. No matter how much we try to tear these kids away from the tv, place their heads in the books, steer them away from drugs, sex, gangs and violence, and teach them the fundamentals of doing for self, their environmental influence will ALWAYS play a big role in their upbringing. This goes into what you stated earlier: "...create an environment that reinforces the objective." and "Get involved in your local governing processes." (we might have to discuss the latter a little further, I might not agree with everything.....)

      Creating an environment that reinforces the objective means not shielding these kids from the truth. They know about oil spills, terrorist attacks, suicide bombings, assassinations, gang violence, abortion, murder, rape, kidnapping, drugs, (shall I go on?). How dare we shield them from the very same truths that have been and are involved in our struggle? In our case it wouldn't be just the passing on of information, we would examine things in contrast as I said earlier.

      Like Bro. TRUTH said, "...plans don't have to be grand, or even about books, history or Afrikan." But we have to start from somewhere.

      Let's start pulling our bricks! (shouts to Bro. ARMEDRESISTANCE!) Dismantle that "capitalist pyramid" and reinforce our own power structure.
      "Some of the laws of revolution are so simple they seem impossible. People think that in order for something to work, it has to be complicated, but a lot of times the opposite is true. We usually reach success by putting the simple truths that we know into practice." -Assata Shakur

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      That's RIGHT Goddamn it ! ! !
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      LOL Let's do this.
      "Some of the laws of revolution are so simple they seem impossible. People think that in order for something to work, it has to be complicated, but a lot of times the opposite is true. We usually reach success by putting the simple truths that we know into practice." -Assata Shakur

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      greetings-

      first of all, allow me to pose the question, "just who is the enemy" or "who are our enemies"...??? it seems impossible to fashion an intelligent response to any question unless and until we are able to answer this question.

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      Quote Originally Posted by edwins View Post
      greetings-

      first of all, allow me to pose the question, "just who is the enemy" or "who are our enemies"...??? it seems impossible to fashion an intelligent response to any question unless and until we are able to answer this question.
      This isn't intended t be a definite answer to your question but more of a springboard:

      "As Freedom Fighters we support all People’s struggles against any and all forms of oppression, exploitation, neo-colonialism, imperialism, genocide and occupation."

      http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/in...aks-forum.html.

      It's a good question!
      "Oh Africa! When shall be the term of thy long degradation? Behold here, even now, I pledge thee, O my Mother, that I shall devote my years to thee, shall work for thy redemption, shall love thee and be proud of thee and glory in thy power now lying dormant and shall strive to bring it to the light. Take my youth, my labors, my love, my all and do thou when I shall have died for thee, take me to thy bosom, an untamed, untamable African." -Hubert Harrison

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      i have thought about it and im sorry that im not able to give any absolute answeres to any of the questions

      but i think maybe the question who the enemy is is not that important? i mean if we cant do some "cut of the head of the snake" action it becomes irrelevant - can we?

      it is my position that what we should do right now is not fighting the powers that be but the lack of power of us

      first things first

      to me it seams that socialism right now is somewhat of a trap just like peace

      as an example take the viet cong their situation was way worse than that of their enemys but they had that motivation because they knew they fought for justice
      if you would tell them about peace and how bad war is do you think that would help?
      i think it would undermine their basic strenght their motivatin

      we are in an economic war black people are on the way to become economic slaves but we got the same strenght as the vietcong we got that motivation because we are on the right side we got the truth on our side aint that something? they even have to kill their own citicents to motivate their soldiers we just have to tell the truth but talking about socialism and money is the root of all evil undermines that strenght

      further i give reference to what Baba Ahmed said in here: Dead Prez and Their Thoughts On Revolution

      to the other replies in this thread i would like to say that i think that there is more then mental chains to break

      example of lu xun:
      “Suppose there is an iron house, without a single window and extremely difficult to destroy. Inside there are some people sleeping soundly, who will all soon suffocate, but entering death from such a sound sleep they will not feel they have died tragically. Now, yelling, you startle a few people out of sleep; you’re just forcing these unfortunate few to face their miserable deaths without hope of escape, and yet you believe this isn’t doing them a disservice?"

      my addition: you are in that house aswell, you are the only one awake, search for a hammer to destroy the house and the others will wake up them selfes realise the situation and do same same.

      I think we got to lead by positive example and the recruiting will go itself.

      i wuold like to reference to what IfasehunReincarnated has said in here:GANGSTAS make the world go 'round

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      greetings, my brother-

      the example you used of the viet cong is a good one to draw upon for inspiration as well as the ethiopians who kicked the italians in the butt and the zulus who banged up on the british and the list goes on...

      the problem i see is this: we are being attacked by an octopus like creature; 8 arms controlled by a body controlled by a head. most of what we see is one arm here and another one there. when we think we have successfully defeated one or two arms, here come one or two more. my question is, "who controls the head"? we are kept busy fighting off the arms- we never see the body, let alone the head.

      take your example of the viet cong: what many people are unaware of is, the viet cong were funded by the same people who fund the u.s. military... every country which has a central bank are under the econmic control of an international group of gangsters who start wars all over the world and decide before the war begins who will win and who will lose- and the winner has to pay the losers debt owed to the bank.

      take a look at afghanistan today... where do these people get the money and equipment and bombs and bullets to fight the americans...??? back in the 80's they were fighting the russians and before the russians it was the british... where does the money come from if these people are so poor and backward...???

      they get the money from the same people who will rape their land and turn their women into prostitutes and turn their men in homosexuals when the shooting stops. that is what has happened to us. just look at our people- we were defeated by these same people who now wage war on the afghans and the iraqis...

      so the question is, "who are these people"...??? who runs around the globe pitting man against wife, brother against brother, sister against sister... who...??? who floods the streets with crack, heroin and crystal meth...??? who...??? who invented aids and dumped that upon us...??? and tells us that it is a homosexual disease in america and a heterosexual disease in africa (and we go for that b.s.) who poisons our water- who puts steroids and hgh in our food... who...???

      we are being attacked in every area of our lives. the problem is we don't see it is an all-out attack. we think it is an economic attack or a political attack etc... the attack comes in many forms but it is still an attack. the attacker has nine arms... economic, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex and war. each one of these arms is a division of the attackers' strategy... his modus operandi... his m.o.

      so, my position is, until we can figure who directs these attacks, we cannot "whole brain" an adequate "counter attack"...

      we must "know thy enemy"... we must study him as he has studied us- that is why we are losing... we don't know who we are fighting... we don't know who the enemy is-

      he camouflages his involvement- he obscures his hand... he pays people to do his dirty work... he directs the action from behind the scenes- who is he...???

      before the first step for a counter attack can be taken we must answer the first question: who? what? when? where? how? why?

      first things first-


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      Financial Independence
      We need to educate ourselves on building black wealth by the means of investing in the stock market, currencies, commodities, etc. Notice how the government does everything in its power to make sure the stock market stays stabilized! When the government bailed out some banks I was sure to have stocks in the same banks.

      I love trading foreign currencies like the Euro. Please keep in mind that the Euro moves inversely of the US dollar. Whenever the US Dollar is down the Euro is up and vice versa!! This is why we hear so much about the Euro in America. Knowledge is Power! The economy will turn around and so will the stock market! This is one important concept we must learn, so we can stop begging the system-of-exploitation and get our own.


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      Demanding respect for the black woman.


      Educating Ourselves
      We need to teach ourselves our history and not depend on our Historial Enemy to teach His-Story (history).
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