FRED PREZ SONG: Africa's Trigger Critisizes Dead Prez!

[N.A.T.]

Click on the link to hear it
http://www.apspuhuru.org/node/view/66

UHURU

[General]

Yo, That was tight, I was down with Uhuru, Dead Prez and Fred. Actually, I came into the Uhuru Movement after hearing Dead Prez. I visited St. Petersburg for an annual conference in 2001 or 2002 I believe. M-1 was present. Straight up, I knew something was up when they put out that RBG, WTF Revolutionary but Gangsta. I saw that and it made me start thinking about when I used to build with the Nation of Gods. They used to build, call themselves Gods, but smoke blunts. Yeah, What up with Fred Hampton, Jr. Not representing the Uhuru Movement. Well, I may not always put out the party platform, but everytime I organize I ask people what do they think about the Uhuru Movement platform. I mean its like if folk are talking about they about the cause and not even familiar with Chairman Omali Yeshietelia what kind of so called Revolutionary are you? Well, everyone is not going to know everyone and or everything, but some folk I know here in calling themselves Revolutionaries haven't even heard any of Chairman tapes or don't even push his new book. I just purchased Chairman's book about 2 months ago. Matter fact, I had some criticisms for Erika Badu when she spoke at the Millions More Movement she talking about she loves everybody. Well I don't and God, the Creator, Yahwah, Jah, Allah, Ra does not love everybody so I think this celebrity type stuff go to folk head where they do not recognize the beast and our enemies. B.T.W. Fred Hampton has enough problems. He has major beef in Chicago with whoever the brother is Jihad from the Nation of Gods. I have no real beef with Fred. I think though that it is alright to acknowledge where one recieves their Political Education from. I always tell folk and acknowledge that my P.E. came from the Uhuru Movement. I always end my speech with Uhuru! I give the Chairman his respect needed. He is better able to articulate somethings better than I.

[rebelAfrika]

Originally Posted by General

Yo, That was tight, I was down with Uhuru, Dead Prez and Fred. Actually, I came into the Uhuru Movement after hearing Dead Prez. I visited St. Petersburg for an annual conference in 2001 or 2002 I believe. M-1 was present. Straight up, I knew something was up when they put out that RBG, WTF Revolutionary but Gangsta. I saw that and it made me start thinking about when I used to build with the Nation of Gods. They used to build, call themselves Gods, but smoke blunts. Yeah, What up with Fred Hampton, Jr. Not representing the Uhuru Movement. Well, I may not always put out the party platform, but everytime I organize I ask people what do they think about the Uhuru Movement platform. I mean its like if folk are talking about they about the cause and not even familiar with Chairman Omali Yeshietelia what kind of so called Revolutionary are you? Well, everyone is not going to know everyone and or everything, but some folk I know here in calling themselves Revolutionaries haven't even heard any of Chairman tapes or don't even push his new book. I just purchased Chairman's book about 2 months ago. Matter fact, I had some criticisms for Erika Badu when she spoke at the Millions More Movement she talking about she loves everybody. Well I don't and God, the Creator, Yahwah, Jah, Allah, Ra does not love everybody so I think this celebrity type stuff go to folk head where they do not recognize the beast and our enemies. B.T.W. Fred Hampton has enough problems. He has major beef in Chicago with whoever the brother is Jihad from the Nation of Gods. I have no real beef with Fred. I think though that it is alright to acknowledge where one recieves their Political Education from. I always tell folk and acknowledge that my P.E. came from the Uhuru Movement. I always end my speech with Uhuru! I give the Chairman his respect needed. He is better able to articulate somethings better than I.

How long was you in Uhuru Movement?

[BlakWolf]

props on the link man, i learned a little something from these songs...thank you for sharing

[Jacuma]

Yo Comrade N.A.T. you reppin hard, I likes that!! Chairman Yeshitela will be here this week, its been a minute but you got my digits hit me up.. Uhuru!!

[Erzulie Danto]

yeah, pro-Afrikan activism and today's hip hop celebrity culture doesn't sit very well together. many folks think RBG is just a style, many are fans who aren't doing the work or the critical reasoning. no big surprise there. still, we hope our artists can inspire and inform.

but i'm wondering what conscious folks think of the flashy sports car in M1's latest video. i was surprised to see the recent anti-capitalist zooming up to the Brooklyn school to teach the youth in a luxury vechicle. while i am certain its just a video prop but that is the kind of posturing that weakens the entire revolutionary platform. a car like that is worth food, clothes, shelter for many. as poverty, war and disaster ie white supremacy continues to strike us as a community, we can't continue to play with these contradictions. it is the desire for luxury cars and material objects like these that keep us chained to yt in search of dollars and status, keeps many us fighting over the crumbs of the Amerikkkan pie. Brother M1 should know much better than come with it like that.

and that's not to mention the half naked Asian chick on his myspace website who remains centrally placed on M1's much visited page. what happened to Real Black Girls? i think she runs his publicity campaign and updates his site. but why not hire a sista or brother? or least somebody with an overstanding and respect for what dpz stands for? i hope our brother is not caving in to the trifles of celebrity. at the moment, his public personae is not entirely consistent with his own set of Afrikan mores.

i too offer this as a humble critique/question. the dpz Brothers continue to contribute to the movement and yet as Africa Trigger suggests we too should continue to hold high standards esp for our more public Warriors.

much respect to Chairman Omali Yeshitela and the Uhuru Movement. many of us continue to learn real lessons in Pan Afrikan commitment and intelligence from this Elder and this organization.

UHURU.

[General]

Originally Posted by Erzulie Danto

yeah, pro-Afrikan activism and today's hip hop celebrity culture doesn't sit very well together. many folks think RBG is just a style, many are fans who aren't doing the work or the critical reasoning. no big surprise there. still, we hope our artists can inspire and inform.

but i'm wondering what conscious folks think of the flashy sports car in M1's latest video. i was surprised to see the recent anti-capitalist zooming up to the Brooklyn school to teach the youth in a luxury vechicle. while i am certain its just a video prop but that is the kind of posturing that weakens the entire revolutionary platform. a car like that is worth food, clothes, shelter for many. as poverty, war and disaster ie white supremacy continues to strike us as a community, we can't continue to play with these contradictions. it is the desire for luxury cars and material objects like these that keep us chained to yt in search of dollars and status, keeps many us fighting over the crumbs of the Amerikkkan pie. Brother M1 should know much better than come with it like that.

and that's not to mention the half naked Asian chick on his myspace website who remains centrally placed on M1's much visited page. what happened to Real Black Girls? i think she runs his publicity campaign and updates his site. but why not hire a sista or brother? or least somebody with an overstanding and respect for what dpz stands for? i hope our brother is not caving in to the trifles of celebrity. at the moment, his public personae is not entirely consistent with his own set of Afrikan mores.

i too offer this as a humble critique/question. the dpz Brothers continue to contribute to the movement and yet as Africa Trigger suggests we too should continue to hold high standards esp for our more public Warriors.

much respect to Chairman Omali Yeshitela and the Uhuru Movement. many of us continue to learn real lessons in Pan Afrikan commitment and intelligence from this Elder and this organization.

UHURU.

Give thanks for this. Very well said Dantu. I share in this analysis, very hypocritical and bourgisie hmm? I'm tired of these Bourgisie "Afrikan Internationalist" or whatever they call themselves. Matter of fact, I spoke of this to a Uhuru Movement member b4 that I was against this. "He told me U should be able to drive what U want". I was like huh? Matter of fact whats up with the Uhuru Movement? Do they propogate this? I believe that Hip Hip and the Arts have a dumbing down effect. I am not suprised if M-1 is riding around in a Bentley or whatever kind of car he was in. I see many so called Conscious Rappers Vascillating to Nigger-tivity so they can get a record deal. Yes they are more Gangsta than Revolutionary.

Hip Hop has done more damage than good???

[General]

Originally Posted by rebelAfrika*AAPRP

How long was you in Uhuru Movement?

Alright, I didn't want to go here, but I knew someone would question my P.E. Alright, Here you go. I was in the Uhuru Movement for about 1 year. I went hard. Studied the Platform, Sold the Burning Spear, listened to Chairmam Omali's tapes, worked on the Free Fred Campaign and travelled to St. Petersburg, Fl. for a three day conference. If I may humbly, respectfully suggest my analysis. In the Uhuru Movement as we engage the platform it says We Demand a Policy of Economic Development Vice Police Containment. I believe in this I practice this, but What does this really mean? I want this to be articulated to me by Chairman Omali Yeshetelia and anyone else. Now, I did not speak with Chairman Omali about the contradictions that I witnessed and seen though I realized that I needed to practice personal self development for sure. Meaning this, Uhuru Movement encouraged reading and studying. One time I was reading the work of Dr. Amos Wilson, Blueprint to Black Power. I showed this to one of the Uhuru Brothers. This brother was aware of Dr. Wilson though he didn't admire his work like I did. I had listened to many of Dr. Wilson's tapes for a while and I began to realize that he was well versed and deep on the issue of Economics and Psychology. He understood these things. Interestingly, A different brother in the Uhuru Movement while we were riding to St. Petersburg, FL for the Uhuru Conference we were listening from a tape from a member of the MATAH Network. This brother said that he wanted to bring the two together. Now, I kept hearing about this MATAH from different places over the years. I went to the website and realized that some of the folks are reading the same books that I was reading. I realized that if they were/are reading these books they must have some levels of Consciousness about our conditions. They had tapes and books by Dr. Leonard Jeffries, Frances Cress Welsing, Ishakumoso Barashango, Amos Wilson, George Subira. As I was selling books and tapes I realized that more cash flow, didn't want to work for YT. I wanted Freedom, True Freedom. I could only tape and book people so far. MATAH filled this void. Finally, when I finally got back up with the Uhuru Movement. The first thing a brother asked me was "Is this some kind of Capitalist Venture?". I realized then that he was missing part of the Uhuru Movement Platform and Honestly did not have a proper theoretical understanding of the so called various forms of systems Kwame Toure suggest there are only two Socialist and Capitalist. There are though some others in between if we are seriously reading one can be introduced to Cooperatives get it Cooperative Economics. One need not become a Petty Bourgisie and aim for the Status Symbols of the ruling class as E. Franklin Frazier suggest the the Bourgisie was a Clothes and Automobile Status seeking group. So, that was some of my articulations of the perhaps non-openness of some of the Uhuru Movement folk. I can not say that all Uhuru folk or Chairman Omali think like this, but I just go to the Platform for real. "We demand a Policy of Economic Development Vice Police Containment". I ask who is really Uhuru. I say Uhuru for life! Til We Free!

[General]

Originally Posted by Jacuma

Yo Comrade N.A.T. you reppin hard, I likes that!! Chairman Yeshitela will be here this week, its been a minute but you got my digits hit me up.. Uhuru!!

Where will the Chaiman be. I always try to go hear him whenever I get a chance. I missed him in Philly recently.

[General]

Originally Posted by BlakWolf

props on the link man, i learned a little something from these songs...thank you for sharing

I learned somethings too. I saw it coming though with both of these folk i.e. M-1 and now Chairman Fred. He is a Chairman now. I guess everyone wants to have their own group i.e. I'm the leader. We are all Leaders! We learn from each other, but we must all practice True Freedom and Critical thinking!

[N.A.T.]

U aint heard from me Jacuma, I been in Ghana. But im back in the UK. I tried getting to u a couple of times but your fone didnt go through, ama try tonight, if not early moro. Hold tight bro, and keep it banging down in US!

UHURU

[GT4LIFE]

Interesting discussion...
LOL@ "common forgot points six, seven, eight, nine and ten"... I noticed that too. I think "Panthers" is a dope song though. So is the response.
Erzulie, I was loving that M1 video, I hadn't really thought too hard about the flashy car. I think M1 might have the idea, rightly or wrongly, that his target audience might subconsciously dismiss taking on a revolutionary mindset, if they associate it with poverty. So that by associating it with a flashy car, he would make it more attractive (subconsciously). I don't know about this idea, I would rather he promoted bike-riding. Cheap, earth-friendly and keeps you fit. The flashy car does raise contradictions. But I can see where he coming from cos no one wants flashy shit like poor people. Like SuperCat said to his girl, "I love you like how pocket it a love some money, I love you like how poor man dem love jewellry..." I could see it as a subliminal psychological tactic. Or, maybe M1 just always liked sports cars and now he can afford one.
Anyway this is an interesting discussion and for sure no one is ever above criticism. Hopefully dpz, uhuru and fred hampton jr. will continue to do works for the good of African people, whether in conjunction or separately.
General, I agree with you about collective leadership, I don't believe in the one infallible leader thing, everyone is a student and a teacher, I might teach you one subject, but learn a next one from you.