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      David Banner speaks to "Black Leaders"


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      DAVID BANNER CLARIFIES CONTEXT OF SHARPTON RANT: Rapper’s camp releases statement and lengthy open letter.

      August 16, 2007


      *David Banner’s camp has released a statement regarding the public feud between the rapper and Rev. Al Sharpton over the activist’s attempt to clean up rap lyrics.


      The statement, e-mailed to EUR yesterday, backtracks on the recent profanity-laced comments Banner made toward Sharpton, saying they were from a “conversation on a DJ conference call,” and not “from a formal interview. …The manner in which it was delivered was not how he would respond in an interview.”


      Among other choice words, Banner was quoted on rap site SOHH.com as saying: "The next time you see Al Sharpton, tell him I said f*ck him and he can suck my d*ck. I might change the name of my album from ‘The Greatest Story Never Told’ to ‘F*ck Al Sharpton.’”

      Kirsten John-Foy from Sharpton’s National Action Network responded with a statement that referred to Banner by his real name, Levell Crump. It read, in part:


      “In keeping with the National Action Network’s Decency Initiative, I am sure Rev. Sharpton would not call Crump the ‘N’ ‘B’ or ‘H’ word. And, despite Crump’s personal request, I am sure Reverend Sharpton would not call him a f-g--t. He would just pray for him. We at NAN are pro civil rights for everyone, even Levell Crump who has not had a banner year since his debut album in 2003.”


      The response from Banner’s camp included an open letter from the rapper that is said to have been written before his public comments about Sharpton, yet not released until now.


      “Banner’s true feelings and points that he desires to get across can be found in the letter,” the statement explains.

      Here it is in its entirety:


      Wrote A Letter To The Government The Other Day!

      Stop Attacking The Kids


      To all the black ‘so called leaders’. Al, Oprah, Jesse, etc, etc, etc… I’m saddened by your current direction and current ‘pet projects’ you guys have taken under your wing at the expense of Young Black America. As an urban professional living in this crazy world, I dare ask, who are you leading? I listen to what you say, I hear you complain about the youth, and about the direction of our lives, the kids, and where Black America is going and yet I still ask – who are you guys leading? And most importantly, where are we going? Do we know the goal we are trying to reach before we get there? Have we identified our end before articulating our means to an end! Who are you REALLY reaching? Why do you feel the need to attack the young generation for the things we are doing? "WHO DID WE LEARN THESE THINGS FROM? We are trying to have fun in the midst of our traumatic circumstances. People are trying to make a living by any means necessary, people are voicing their experiences, people are speaking the truth about situations and honestly the truth hurts and sometimes it’s ugly. If music/hip hop/ rappers are wrong with the language they use, the images they portray in their videos – then come talk to us – I use the term ‘us’ as a collective because I’m defending what I have a passion for so this also involves me. Pull us to the side and say “hey kids, that’s not the way to go” and then we can say “change what we see daily so we cansing and rap about the roses and not about the bullets”. We will say, help give us better situations to create better verbal material”. Don’t just go running off to the media to air the dirty laundry of the family and not expect us to fight back in some kind of way. What you are doing is wrong and it’s pissing off a lot of people with less money and camera

      time! Young Black America’s problem is not Hip Hop or the music, Young Black America’s problem is Old White America. In the young black community, there is a growing level of resentment toward the ‘so called leaders’ because you guys DON’T WANT TO REALLY FIX OUR PROBLEMS. You guys don’t really want to be on our side fighting for better school systems, more after school programs, more money for college funding! Where areyou leaders at when there’s a need to break down to freshman in college on how not to get caught up with credit cards by singing up for an MBNA card, with high interest rates that eventually screw up your credit and makes it that much harder for you to become a homeowner after you graduate college pending you can find a job in your field after you’ve spent all this money in student loans! Where are those seminars? Dubois had it right when he spoke of the Talented Tenth! Rally around us to help teach us about THIS life! It’s not our fault that the world is messed up and filled with debauchery. It’s not our fault that our communities are screwed! The problems in our community should not fall on our lap. And if you begin to hold us accountable for simply our words – then I will begin to hold you accountable for your actions; or lack there of. Right is right and wrong is wrong. You as our leaders should have taken a better approach to gaining the attention of those that you are dissatisfied with and had a conversation with them. You don’t scold your child in public without fair warning!


      Al Sharpton: You run around towns and cities speaking words of wanting to better our community by cleaning up the airwaves. You hold rallies in front of radio stations saying turn off the music and clean the airwaves. You want to shut down local stations that are playing urban music when most of these local stations house and employ the same people in your community – the black community. When you visit any station in any city (big or small) playing urban/rap music, the staff is generally black. Now if those stations were to ever shut down – where do those employees go? Al, if you are for the people, where was your rally when the 3 college students were executed in New Jersey by black men. Where is the rally atfor those families and that neighborhood??? I don’t see you out there asking for justice yet that incident happened in a black community. If someone was to rap about “how f**** up black on black crime is and how even if you go to college you aren’t safe on the streets and nigga’s aint’ s---” – that kind of tone is offensive to you and you want to stop that! If that’s the truth, then why are you censoring it? No, you need to stop the crime before it happens so that there is no gangster song about a gangster situation.


      Oprah: You recently you held a town hall meeting dedicating 2 days of talk to have an open forum about the “Nappy Headed Ho” comment from Imus. Everyone had their 2cents to say and yet the people that needed to REALLY be there were not at all on your panel of ‘experts’. The questions all were about “why use the word ho or b**** or nigga etc” yet the rappers in question ala Nelly, Snoop, Ludacris weren’t anywhere present on your panel. In my eyes you had all the wrong people on there representing and speaking on behalf of other people. Common is great but he’s not gangsta. If you had a problem with the true content of rap songs then where were those that do that kind of rap

      100%? You want to talk about change, and about having us not call women in rap songs “bitches” and “hoes” but one thing I noted, you had all men on your panel of executives. Russell is wonderful but he’s not the Zenith when it comes to new school rappers or their new school mentality. Kevin Liles is great but what happened to Sylvia Rhone the head of the label that Nelly is signed to, or Kathy Hughes the head of Radio One or Deborah Lee the head of BET. If the problem really was about women and the “bitch, ho” term being used, where were those ladies to speak on their stance on this issue! They are the ones with the ultimate say pulling all the strings and yet they weren’t dully noted as absent from your panel! Oprah you are suppose to protect us, I can find more harm being done to the black community by the movies and sponsors you promote than any rap song.


      Just like your son or daughter, niece or nephew… rappers are just kids growing into their own. They aren’t always right, but they aren’t always wrong either. If our path is misguided, then help us get back on the right road. I’m young, I’m black, and I’m a hard worker. I’m from the hood where mother’s leave their kids in the hands of strangers and never look back, I’ve been with killers, dope dealers, b******, church folk, grandparents, bad parenting from good parents, pushers, junkies, robbers, middleclass workers, but that’s the life I’vebeen around. Gunshots and church hymns usually go hand in hand in most neighborhoods. The grim reality for a lot of kids out there living alone is that life is harsh and cold; kids grow up faster than they want to because they are forced too! Kids are growing up in situations that are f***** up. So the songs we listen to mirror the things we see, the things we dream about and the fantasies we have! Don’t change the songs I listen to, change the circumstance from which it comes from---then the situation will be better!


      Growing up in this world of hip hop it’s disheartening to see our ‘so called leaders’ leave us out to dry. Fine you don’t like what we say. Fine disagree with our choice of topics; however, the things we talk about aren’t new. We didn’t invent the term pimps, pushers, hoes, tricks, doobies, nigga’s and gangsta’s. Hip Hop didn’t create that. Those words were left here for us to use by you guys, your generation. This life we are continuing to live was handed to us by the people before us who didn’t do much to clean it up. There may never be a time that we agree on anything, but there is always room for change. As a family – we will agree to disagree but it’s the synergy in which we do it. If you are on one extreme tangent, and I’m on another, we will never meet eye to eye. At the same time, I will not allow you to bash, yell, condemn, and have a condescending tone on my source of refugee and happiness. As you leaders call out the hip hop community saying that we are wrong for what we do and how we do it, I am CALLING EACH OF YOU OUT saying you are wrong for what you are doing to us. How dare you guys not call Nelly, Snoop, Lil Wayne, David Banner, Jim Jones, Akon, Rick Ross, Fabulous, 50 cent, Young Buck, Bun B, Too Short and say lets talk this through. Do you even know who ANY of these people are??????? You are so disconnected from us that we don’t even look at you for guidance. If you really want to change something, start by changing your dialogue. Don’t talk at us, talk to us!


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      Thats only if the "leaders" can leave their egos at the door....

      Otherwise new leaders will have to step up...and it looks as if that is going to need to happen in order for any significant changes and progress is to be made.

      From what I see the current "leaders" have too much invested in the present status quo....they are not going to make any changes soon to upset that balance...and will do more to hinder any real change than to improve our station in life.

      They have taken on the characteristics of the oppressor.....sad to say.
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      Short of hit squads armed to the teeth...nothing's going to stop the ignorance in the modern Hip Hop community. You can't teach 50, Jeezy, or Wayne SHIT! You have to disarm them. Once these porn pushers realize they have more than the hip hop police to worry about, they'll think twice before they get on the mic or on stage with some bullshit.
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      Banner is right to satnd up and say something all Al and the rest are doing as he said "attacking the youth" not reaching them. Then are use to having a church sit back and listen and agree to every word they say so preach is 2nd nature to them. People these days (many still do) don't follow religion blindly any more and Sharpton, Jackson, etc.. fail to see that you must reach some one before you attempt to teach them.

      I guess they're to busy getting pay off's from the government to think that the people are more important than Amerikkka.
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      I completely agree with Banner. Leaders do need to talk to those who are creating the music...but we also need to do thing that change the situations and the environments that we are in. Rap started as a musical interpretation and reflection of life (Don't push me cuz I'm close to the edge...I'm trying not to lose my head)....
      But as our communities worsen and become more dangerous because of the BS that is infiltrated and forced onto us, we cannot sing about roses and peaches and cream. Because that isn't what we see. Education needs to be at the forefront. Business sense needs to be at the forefront. Financial planning and knowledge needs to be at the forefront. Help for those who feel helpless needs to be at the forefront. We are the "greatest" country in the world but those who are decendants of the ones that built this country are the poorest and most destitute. It's a damn shame that we are having these conversations and no solutions have been found.
      They need to step up and do right or get the hell out of the way and leave the space open for someone who isn't looking for the fame and fortune. Give someone who gives a damn your spot. You created it but are not willing to fix it? Give me a break. Let someone else lead...

      Reminds me of the saying...even the road to hell was paved with good intentions...

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      I'll say what Al SHarpton shoulda said...

      FUKK David Banner!! DAvid Banner aint been relevant in hip hop since 2003! He is a negro at it's worst! How dare he attack a person who is VISABLE in every city in this sorry ass union. WHERE IS DAVID BANNER WHEN THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSISTANCE? Im sikka these rap niggas always attackin their elders but u will NEVAH hear David Banner attack his white label master's!

      Just because he's young, black and in the hip hop game doesnt mean or warrant shit! Where did he come off with this.

      I tell u one thing about Al Sharpton, we may have our opinions of him but aint nobody callin' us on this forum OR David Banner (named after a crakka who metamorphosis into a green devil) when a family member is murdered by fascist pigs. Nobody callin this negro when they need help. And apparently aint nobody buyin his whack ass records either!

      Why does the media see it as a necessity to get the opinion from a NIGGAH who will never be any service to his people? What the hell is taking kids to 6 flags gwan do for the reality they face in their communities everyday?

      Some of our people just need to be shot in the damn head

      Tell Banner to go rop some more whack ass beats and garbage ass rhymes and just stay in a niggas place and let Africans and real freedom fighters worry about the future past and present of our people.

      It is amazing how certain topics can make u defend people who u really dont wanna defend i.e. Al Sharpton.

      FUCK DAVID BANNER AND ALL THOSE WHACK ASS SOUTHERN RAPPIN NIGGAS WHO HAVE DESTROYED WHAT WAS 1NCE AN ART FORM TO BE PROUD OF.

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      ^Well put Kefentse_Bandele. David Banner is a hypocrit.





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      Brothers Kefentse and GODFATHER...
      Points taken, understood and agreed with. But, despite the crap music the south makes (that last Banner cut I could cut him for with the YingYang Twins UGH!!!) he does make a point...I mean the Rainbow Coalition...has it mad progress how has it really helped the masses that need it? And Al is just a cutout in my opinion...he's there to be seen...Is he supporting the Jena 6? What about those brothers in Michigan (even though they are already free)?
      I think banner is trying to make him reclaim his grassroots...come back to the community as a whole...not as a part that will give you the most coverage. Same thing goes for Opri and the rest of them...
      And I still agree with him stating that they need to talk to the rappers and not at...because most of them still are like children and will do stuff to spite their elders simply because they can. They do need to sit down and discuss whats going on in our community...but the rappers (IF you want to call them that) need to step up to the plate as well and do what they are asking our other 'leaders' to do

      Good points men...

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      Quote Originally Posted by YorubaQueen View Post
      Brothers Kefentse and GODFATHER...
      Points taken, understood and agreed with. But, despite the crap music the south makes (that last Banner cut I could cut him for with the YingYang Twins UGH!!!) he does make a point...I mean the Rainbow Coalition...has it mad progress how has it really helped the masses that need it? And Al is just a cutout in my opinion...he's there to be seen...Is he supporting the Jena 6? What about those brothers in Michigan (even though they are already free)?
      I think banner is trying to make him reclaim his grassroots...come back to the community as a whole...not as a part that will give you the most coverage. Same thing goes for Opri and the rest of them...
      And I still agree with him stating that they need to talk to the rappers and not at...because most of them still are like children and will do stuff to spite their elders simply because they can. They do need to sit down and discuss whats going on in our community...but the rappers (IF you want to call them that) need to step up to the plate as well and do what they are asking our other 'leaders' to do

      Good points men...
      I disagree with the negro wholeheartedly! Forget what Al is doin because it's debatable. But what Banner AINT doin AINT debatable at all. I wrote an article on this forum responsibility of self when we call out other's. Banner has absolutely no ground to stand on bashing Al Sharpton or anyone else who put their lives on the line for our causes. I heard about the Jena 6 from Al Sharpton as well as Warren Ballintine...not nunna these rap niggas! Too busy flossin' and chasin "bitches" and hookin their Superfly reincarnated cars up!

      Minister Farrakhan offered to intervene between 50 cent and Ja Rule and the negro 50 cent declined. If you aint signiing their checks, these niggas aint got no words for ANYTHING anyone say's progressive or beneficial to the whole of their people.

      David Banner is more of an agent provocateur than Al Sharpton could ever dream of! He knows he's a nigga and is proud of it and don't mind promoting his slave mentality on to my children.

      The nigga (David Banner) is out of line!

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      Quote Originally Posted by YorubaQueen View Post
      Brothers Kefentse and GODFATHER...
      Points taken, understood and agreed with. But, despite the crap music the south makes (that last Banner cut I could cut him for with the YingYang Twins UGH!!!) he does make a point...I mean the Rainbow Coalition...has it mad progress how has it really helped the masses that need it? And Al is just a cutout in my opinion...he's there to be seen...Is he supporting the Jena 6? What about those brothers in Michigan (even though they are already free)?
      I think banner is trying to make him reclaim his grassroots...come back to the community as a whole...not as a part that will give you the most coverage. Same thing goes for Opri and the rest of them...
      And I still agree with him stating that they need to talk to the rappers and not at...because most of them still are like children and will do stuff to spite their elders simply because they can. They do need to sit down and discuss whats going on in our community...but the rappers (IF you want to call them that) need to step up to the plate as well and do what they are asking our other 'leaders' to do

      Good points men...
      I disagree with the negro wholeheartedly! Forget what Al is doin because it's debatable whether he services our people or not. But what Banner AINT doin AINT debatable at all. I wrote an article on this forum responsibility of self when we call out other's. Banner has absolutely no ground to stand on bashing Al Sharpton or anyone else who put their lives on the line for our causes. I heard about the Jena 6, the situation of the other young brother imprisoned for statutory rape and even the Don Imus issue from Al Sharpton as well as Warren Ballintine"s radio talk show...not nunna these rap niggas! Too busy flossin' and chasin "bitches" and hookin their Superfly reincarnated cars up!

      Minister Farrakhan offered to intervene between 50 cent and Ja Rule and the negro 50 cent declined. If you aint signing their checks, these niggas aint got no words for ANYTHING anyone say's progressive or beneficial to the whole of their people.

      David Banner is more of an agent provocateur than Al Sharpton could ever dream of! He knows he's a nigga and is proud of it and don't mind promoting his slave mentality on to my children. It aint gon happen captain!

      The nigga (David Banner) is out of line!

      p.s. I dont use the word "nigga" as often as I am in this post but I think it just fits oh so well with the party im callin out.

      See if David can make a beat for this catchy tune...

      "Back then everybody wanted you,
      now u wack and played out everybody hate you"..lol

      Banner is best when he makes beats which dont require him to open his silly ass mouth!

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      I agree 100%!!!!

      Quote Originally Posted by Kefentse_Bandele View Post
      I disagree with the negro wholeheartedly! Forget what Al is doin because it's debatable whether he services our people or not. But what Banner AINT doin AINT debatable at all. I wrote an article on this forum responsibility of self when we call out other's. Banner has absolutely no ground to stand on bashing Al Sharpton or anyone else who put their lives on the line for our causes. I heard about the Jena 6, the situation of the other young brother imprisoned for statutory rape and even the Don Imus issue from Al Sharpton as well as Warren Ballintine"s radio talk show...not nunna these rap niggas! Too busy flossin' and chasin "bitches" and hookin their Superfly reincarnated cars up!

      Minister Farrakhan offered to intervene between 50 cent and Ja Rule and the negro 50 cent declined. If you aint signing their checks, these niggas aint got no words for ANYTHING anyone say's progressive or beneficial to the whole of their people.

      David Banner is more of an agent provocateur than Al Sharpton could ever dream of! He knows he's a nigga and is proud of it and don't mind promoting his slave mentality on to my children. It aint gon happen captain!

      The nigga (David Banner) is out of line!

      p.s. I dont use the word "nigga" as often as I am in this post but I think it just fits oh so well with the party im callin out.

      See if David can make a beat for this catchy tune...

      "Back then everybody wanted you,
      now u wack and played out everybody hate you"..lol

      Banner is best when he makes beats which dont require him to open his silly ass mouth!
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      David Banner is a little over his self right now. On a segment of one of the shows on the negro channel he swears that he's a leader and the fact that he speaks on certain issues that someone's gonna assassinate him. He gets a Negro Please!!!! for those comments. For some reason I cant compare him to a Malcolm X. Far as Rev Al goes not to big on him to be honest I think he's kind of suspect... but he is on the front line of many issues.
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      Thumbs up I see some really great points already...


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      I agree, David Banner may be over his head. We need to leave Oprah out of this. She is not responsible for our behavior. The woman Built a School in Africa yall... how dare anyone attack her... Other than that David Banner is facing many issues, and we need more Mc's to follow his lead. Now, we cannot compare him to our Late Great Leaders of the Civil Right's Movement, but his efforts should be praised. Now, if he can take that energy and fustration geared toward Al Sharpton, Oprah and our parents, and channel it toward legislators and congressmen then he is actually doing something.

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      Quote Originally Posted by anukasar View Post
      Other than that David Banner is facing many issues, and we need more Mc's to follow his lead. Now, we cannot compare him to our Late Great Leaders of the Civil Right's Movement, but his efforts should be praised.
      Please tell me about his efforts that "should be praised". He isnt a MC he's a disc jockey as well as producer. Just like Puff Daddy aint a Mc or a producer.

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