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      Hip Hop's True Origins? 80 Year Old Elder Tells All!


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      WOW. That was a TRIP indeed! Maaaaaan, that video really changes my whole perception about hip-hop music and rapping.

      I'm letting EVERYONE know about this video...that was WILD. Thanks for the heads-up!

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      What's the video say i can't see it.
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      Basically he says that he created rap when he was younger and he had to go and fetch their cows from neighbors yards.

      First rap lyrics ever: "You can run, you can hide, but it won’t last. I’m gonna catch up with you and I’m gonna beat your ass." Or something like that.

      Then he recorded a record and sent it to big music markets. Now whenever he sees a successful rapper, he thinks "I created that."
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      I saw this video but my opinion is different.

      Hip Hop started when the first African that discovered the drum started mastering it.

      Thats when r&b started, rap, jazz, gospel, blue grass and every other form of music we can think of.

      Hip Hop has absolutley nothing to do with amerikkka.

      We often have this notion that black people in amerikkka fell out of the sky and everything we learned here came from trial and error or "de grase ob de gud lawd" when we brought everything we hold dear now over here with us from Africa.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kefentse_Bandele View Post
      I saw this video but my opinion is different.

      Hip Hop started when the first African that discovered the drum started mastering it.

      Thats when r&b started, rap, jazz, gospel, blue grass and every other form of music we can think of.

      Hip Hop has absolutley nothing to do with amerikkka.

      We often have this notion that black people in amerikkka fell out of the sky and everything we learned here came from trial and error or "de grase ob de gud lawd" when we brought everything we hold dear now over here with us from Africa.

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      Well, that's a given. No one is disputing or denying the fact that a lot of our music is based on music and traditions from Afrika. What I think that you are missing though is that if not for the conditions that came to Afrikans living throughout the Diaspora, then we wouldn't have, jazz, rapping (signifying, toasting, spoken word, etc. It's all Griot), hip-hop music, rock, blues, gospel, samba, salsa, reggae, flamenco, bossa nova, r&b, etc.

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      I would believe what the elder brother was saying...if it wasn't for the fact that his record came out SO CLOSE to the time that hip-hop originated.

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      How could "hip hop" start in the Bronx, NY in the 70s when H. Rap Brown, from Louisiana, was rapping since the 50s? Don't believe me, check out his autobiography Die Nigger Die. I hate hearing about the so-called orgin of rap cuz rap was around rap been around forever. Listen to James Brown you can't tell me he ain't rapping.
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      Cool the term "rap", and more so "rappin'" is as old as the Griot...


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      I hear what the brother is saying and it probably would be just to include him in the history and chronology of so-called “rap music”. But as it has been said already, “rap” is based on a term that is as old as many other early last century Black terminologies. Like, H. Rap Brown; for “to rap”, was to speak on any subject fluently, spontaneously, poetically, and with great charisma. We used the term all the time, before it became the “term of choice” for the Hip Hop generation. “Stone Playas” knew how to “rap”, we loved Malcolm because he knew how to “rap” to the people. The Last Poets where poetic rappers; Rudy Ray Moore (or Dolomite) was a master “rapper” in a tradition that was already in place in the South. Telling a story, history, the joys of life, or complaining about your oppression over top of rhythms with spoken word, as it’s been said, is as old as the African Griot himself. You can find this throughout our history, and the African Caribbean. The African Cubans do it over the top of Rumbas.

      The young are s-oooo disconnected from their history, and always feel they can revise their story out of mid-air, or listen to some “Johnny-come-lately” academic of the Hip Hop generation define what they are not truly connected to intrinsically. This same thing has happened to the Blues and Jazz, and most African diasporic music.



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      Quote Originally Posted by Sun Ship View Post
      I hear what the brother is saying and it probably would be just to include him in the history and chronology of so-called “rap music”. But as it has been said already, “rap” is based on a term that is as old as many other early last century Black terminologies. Like, H. Rap Brown; for “to rap”, was to speak on any subject fluently, spontaneously, poetically, and with great charisma. We used the term all the time, before it became the “term of choice” for the Hip Hop generation. “Stone Playas” knew how to “rap”, we loved Malcolm because he knew how to “rap” to the people. The Last Poets where poetic rappers; Rudy Ray Moore (or Dolomite) was a master “rapper” in a tradition that was already in place in the South. Telling a story, history, the joys of life, or complaining about your oppression over top of rhythms with spoken word, as it’s been said, is as old as the African Griot himself. You can find this throughout our history, and the African Caribbean. The African Cubans do it over the top of Rumbas.

      The young are s-oooo disconnected from their history, and always feel they can revise their story out of mid-air, or listen to some “Johnny-come-lately” academic of the Hip Hop generation define what they are not truly connected to intrinsically. This same thing has happened to the Blues and Jazz, and most African diasporic music.



      Great post brutha Ship and Truth. As I stated earlier, all music started with the African drum. Even Carlos Santana (a mexican) has spoken power to this truth. There is no "creator" or "godfather" of hip hop or rap.

      Check out a song by the last poets called "Jazzoetry". What about scatting? Count Basie? What about the so-called "Negro Spirituals" (i looked over jordan and what did i see, i saw a ban of angels comin after me) sounds like MCing 2 me but hey maybe im wrong...lol

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      The first man on earth was a HipHoppa. So therefore HipHop was on earth since the beginning of time.





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      Rap (Hip Hop) is merely spoken word to a rhythm (R-Rhyme A-And P-Poetry)
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