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Should the descendants of slaves in America embrace "African" customs?

Should the descendants of slaves in America embrace "African" customs?

SHOULD THE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVES IN THE AMERICAS EMBRACE "AFRICAN CULTURE" AND "AFRICAN RELIGIONS"? NO!

The so-called "American Negroes", "West Indians", and "Haitians" have been completely removed from their God-given heritage as Jews. Our people have been brainwashed and indoctrinated to believe that they are descendants of the sons of Ham, or the indigenous people of Africa; the same native African tribes who raided the communities of our people in West Africa and participated in the slave trade of our ancestors. Throughout the decades and centuries that we have lived in exile here in the Americas, we people of Negro descent in the Western Hemisphere have been searching for a way to "reconnect" with our original identity and customs. But the problem lies within the fact that our people have looked to Africa and the barbaric customs of the Africans that sold us for guns, rum, and cocoa to Caucasian slave traders in search of an "identity". In the American school system, we are not taught of our royal and glorious history as the nation of Israel before the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade of our foreparents from West Africa in 1619. This deception can easily lead a so-called "American Negro", "West Indian", or "Haitian" to believe that he or she is a descendant of Africa's indigenous people. Why are we not being taught the truth about our history? Because it isn't in the best interest of our archnemesis, Esau (the so-called white man) to teach the truth about the identity of our people as being the true Jews. Lack of knowledge of our people's true identity has played a major part in the so-called Negroes attempting to identify with African people and culture.

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

The so-called "African-Americans", who are Israelites of the tribe of Judah according to the Bible, and all Twelve Tribes of the Nation of Israel (so-called "Negroes", "Hispanics", and "Native American Indians") are destroyed for lack of knowledge. We as a people lack knowledge of our identity as the people of Israel. Due to our Caucasian oppressors literally beating our identity out of us during slavery and forcing us to adapt their religions (namely so-called "Christianity"), we have been completely disconnected from our God-given heritage.

The Lord God of the Nation of Israel said that our people would discontinue from our heritage:

Jeremiah 17:4 And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.

Due to being taught the deception that our history only started as being brought into slavery in the Americas from West Africa, in an attempt to "reconnect" with what they believe to be their "African heritage", many of our people, the so-called American Blacks, West Indians, and Haitians, lacking knowledge of their true identity as Jews, embrace pagan and demonic African religions, customs and beliefs such as Voodoo, SanterĂ*a, the ancient Egyptian religions of Ma'at and Metu Neter, the Book of the Dead, among other practices. But, are we people of Negro descent in Americas supposed to embrace African beliefs and customs? NO!

"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am the LORD your God. After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God." - Exodus 18:1-3

The Lord God of the Nation of Israel has commanded us not to walk in the ways of these sons of Ham (Africans)! We are not supposed to be practicing the customs of the Africans or any other non-Israelite people, because by doing so we are transgressing the laws of God, and breaking God's commandments.

NOTE: Where the scripture makes reference to the "doings of the land of Canaan", that's referring to the descendants of Ham's son Caanan (known today as South Africans) that once dwelled in what is known today as the land of Israel, we are not to keep their customs.

So for those of you caught up into the Book of the Dead, Santeria, or whatever African religion or philosophy you're into, REPENT! Who told you these people's customs are the customs of our ancestors who were brought here as slaves?

Your ancestors are the Jews of the Bible, a Black Shemite people, who fled Roman persecution of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. into West Africa. These black Jews of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi became the founders of Nigeria, Ghana, Timbuktu, the Ivory Coast, Liberia and Mali, and rulers of the Mandinka, Songhay, Ashanti, and Dahomey empires, which were all black Hebrew kingdoms in West Africa. The descendants of these Jews in West Africa also include the Igbo and Yoruba people of Nigeria. The so-called Negro slaves brought to the Americas during the Trans-Atlantic slave trade were the descendants of these same black Jews that ruled as kings of West Africa.

We were put on this Earth to serve only the Lord God of Israel (who is the God of the so-called Negroes, Hispanics, and Native Americans and no other people) and him only, and we are not to bow the knee to the idols and false gods of the Africans!

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." - Exodus 20:3

What customs did the God of Israel give our people (so-called Negroes, Hispanics, and Native American Indians) to observe?

"Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it. Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people." - Deuteronomy 4:5-6

The Lord God of the Nation of Israel has given the Black and Native Indian man of the Americas his laws, statutes, commandments and judgments to keep and observe. When we keep and observe God's laws, statutes, and commandments, all other people on this Earth (the white race, Africans, Arabs, Pacific Islanders, Asians, etc) would look at us and say that we are a wise and understanding people. Those of our people caught up into "Afrocentrism" or any idealogies of the Africans shouldn't be looking to the sons of Ham for "wisdom", because these Hamites don't have any wisdom!

What wisdom is in a group of people who "shop" for food by picking it up off the ground (Ethiopians)?

What wisdom is there in a group of people who worship mummified cats (Ancient Egyptians)?

What wisdom is there in people who mutilate their daughter's genitals and thinking that it's "female circumcision"? (And many of these Africans practice this, someone should have told them that circumcision can only be performed on males!)

If these Africans that you so-called American Blacks think have so much wisdom, why do these people believe that having sex with infants cures AIDS?

What wisdom is there in people who drink blood (or mix milk with blood, or mix milk and blood with feces and eat it), for example, the Maasai people of Kenya? Surely

They seem to have many purposes for cow feces! They make their huts out of it, they even cook their food in it! Tell me, if these Africans really had any "wisdom", why would they do such disgusting and barbaric things? These people are NOT your ancestors!

Are these the kind of people that you so-called American Blacks, West Indians, and Haitians think you're related to? Do you really think these savage, barbaric people who helped the children of Satan (so-called white people, known in the Bible as Esau or Edom) enslave us are your people?

Listen Israel (you so-called Negroes, Hispanics, Native American Indians), wisdom comes from God, and we are the only people that God has given wisdom to:

ECCLESIASTICUS 24:1-8 (KING JAMES VERSION APOCRYPHA)
1: Wisdom shall praise herself, and shall glory in the midst of her people.
2: In the congregation of the most High shall she open her mouth, and triumph before his power.
3: I came out of the mouth of the most High, and covered the earth as a cloud.
4: I dwelt in high places, and my throne is in a cloudy pillar.
5: I alone compassed the circuit of heaven, and walked in the bottom of the deep.
6: In the waves of the sea and in all the earth, and in every people and nation, I got a possession.
7: With all these I sought rest: and in whose inheritance shall I abide?
8: So the Creator of all things gave me a commandment, and he that made me caused my tabernacle to rest, and said, Let thy dwelling be in Jacob, and thine inheritance in Israel.

We are the only people that have wisdom, because the wisdom of God is found within our book, the Holy Bible, which is the word of God. All nations of people admired the nation of Israel for our wisdom.

What is the true identity of the so-called American Blacks, West Indians, and Haitians?

"And Moses with the elders of Israel commanded the people, saying, Keep all the commandments which I command you this day." - Deuteronomy 27:1

The children of Israel were given laws, statues, commandments and judgments to observe and keep. Verses 1-14 show the blessings that the children of Israel would receive for keeping the commandments of God. However, beginning with verses 15-68 are the curses that would fall upon the children of Israel for breaking the commandments of God.

"But it shall come to pass, if thou will not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statues which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:" - Deuteronomy 28:15

Let's take a look at verse 68 and see what people this curse identifies as the Jews of the Bible:

"And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you." - Deuteronomy 28:68

The Bible states that the Lord would bring the children of Israel "into Egypt again with ships" in Deuteronomy 28:68. According to the Scripture, the word "Egypt" in Deuteronomy 28:68 refers to bondage, because the children of Israel were in bondage (which means slavery) in ancient Egypt:

"I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage." - Exodus 20:2

So when the children of Israel came out of Egypt the first time, they were coming out of bondage (slavery) under Pharoah Ramses II. Let's go back to Deuteronomy 28:68 now:

"And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you." - Deuteronomy 28:68

For breaking the laws of God, the children of Israel would go INTO EGYPT (BONDAGE) AGAIN (A SECOND TIME)....WITH SHIPS (MEANING BY WAY OF SHIPS!)

WHAT RACE OF PEOPLE WENT INTO BONDAGE (SLAVERY) BY WAY OF SHIPS?

The ancestors of the so-called "African-Americans", "West Indians", and "Haitians"!

The scripture goes on to say "by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again:", meaning the true Jews would not see their ancient homeland of Israel again.

Then after this, the Scripture saith....

"...and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you."

So in this Egypt, or place of bondage that that the children of Israel would go to by way of ships (America), the scripture says that they would be sold unto their enemies (the Caucasian/white race) for bondmen (male slaves) and bondwomen (female slaves).

And finally the scripture says that "and no man shall buy you". The word "buy" in the Old English that the King James Version of the Bible is written in means "to save" or "to redeem", so it means that no man would save us, or redeem us from the conditions we'd face in slavery.

You so-called American Blacks, West Indians and Haitians are Israelites! YOU ARE NOT AFRICANS! Our people need to repent from worshipping the idols of these Africans who sold us into slavery, and return back unto the Lord our God!
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.... What Da Fuck!!!!
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.... What Da Fuck!!!!
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This guy represents a hebrew israelite sect. But in the words of Dead Prez "FUCK WHAT YOU HEARD I'M FROM AFRIKA".
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SHOULD THE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVES IN THE AMERICAS EMBRACE "AFRICAN CULTURE" AND "AFRICAN RELIGIONS"?
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ok let me add something else. not only should they start embracin them but some of them never stopped doin so. In places like Cuba, Haiti or Brasil, where the Black (slave) population outnumbered their slavemasters they never truly lost their gods and some of their traditions. And they are clearly West Afrikan (in its majority) so what you got to say about that?
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i see that We have an individual that finds nothing more noble than to make Us slaves to the jew. To say that We are jews (or hebrews), is a flat out disrespect to Our Ancestors. Brotha, if You read the talmud, You will see that You, i, or any other Person of Afrikan descent are looked down on by Your jewish counterpart. In other words, You will never be accepted as a jew. The Assata Speaks Forum is about Black People obtaining Liberation; ont submission to jews, arabs, or any other enemy of Our freedom.
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Does this mean that you are for the total unification and liberation of our people? Are you willing to set aside your own sectarian goals for the liberation of your race/people? If you say no....

thats what it really comes down to.

AFTER we are free, we can go talk about all of the religions and sects and gods and all that...there is plenty of time for it. It is needed, also. All of these different branches of ideas breathes forth struggle and more and more revolutions. Until then....focus. please focus.

I can imagine after we all are in Africa, you saying...hey, we are not Africans...we are ...whatever whatever. Wonderful. Thats great. You show, your prove.....forward.
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Embrace Africa's culture, Religion and Spirituality

SHOULD THE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVES IN THE AMERICAS EMBRACE "AFRICAN CULTURE" AND "AFRICAN RELIGIONS"?

Indeed so because We are descedents of Africans. Why would you want us to adopt a culture that isn't ours? you need to really wake up my brother.
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One of my favorite articles about the subject of religion is called "Regaining Our African Aesthetics and Essence Through Our African Traditional Religion" by Gibreel M. Kamara. I have the article in hardcopy from the Journal of Black Studies. If I can find it on the net I will post a link because it's a very interesting read.

Anyway, one of the key things he said was that "African Traditional Religion holds the key to the sanity of our society because it is a religion we intuitively understand. It has no chance of being misinterpreted."

I'm not a religious person in the least but that idea is something that I can unify with. If you're going to accept a religion into your life, it needs to be one that aligns with you naturally, one that you can accept mentally as well as spiritually. Any other choice leaves you with more questions than answers.
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I'm going to count it number 4...This guy Instant Messaged me talking the same things he saying here(about being jew) , He was trying to convince me that I wasn't Afrikan and then seemed as if he was bothered by the fact that I said I am...I just signed out He seems relgious
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