Dr. Ben's origins?!

[PrinceHallBrother]

I have nothing but love for Dr. Clarke and Dr. Williams and all the Pan-Afrikanist scholars who dedicated their lives to improve the condition of our consciousness as Afrikan people.

However, I feel that Dr. Ben's "Ethiopian Jewish" identity does more harm to the credibility of the Afrikan centered scholarship than what good his books have done.

Let's face it, Dr. Ben is not a Falasha. In 1915, at the height of colonial oppression and segregation, no Puerto Rican (black?) woman was able to travel to the remote highlands of Ethiopia to get pregnant with the child of a Falasha man.

Dr. Ben's features are authentically West Afrikan, with no hints of Afro-Semitic traces (all of us who know the diversity of the Afrikan people know what typical Ethiopians and Falashas look like). His strong West Indian accent bears no resemblance to any person who's been raised by a Tigrigna or Geez speaking Falasha.

Dr. Clarke wasn't ashamed of having been born to a sharecropper in the South. Most of our greatest freedom fighters do not come from some mythical place and time, why did Dr. Ben feel it so urgent to create the false identity?!

Sorry for ranting... but the truth of our people is beyond amazing even without any false identities.

[Majadi]

Brother, you are going to have to be more specific in your debate on the origins of Dr. Ben. He for me is one of the elders that I love so dearly! Do you feel you are being productive in this posting? Is this to clear up some great confusion and lastly can you back your claim with birth records, geneaology charts, times, dates etc.?

[rebelAfrika]

Originally Posted by PrinceHallBrother

I feel that Dr. Ben's "Ethiopian Jewish" identity does more harm to the credibility of the Afrikan centered scholarship than what good his books have done.

Really? Why?

P.S. Do you know where he gets "ALKEBULAN" from? That's my only problem with his scholarship (that I don't know "WHERE" he gets that from). Well...that and something else I don't feel the need to talk about at the moment.

[PrinceHallBrother]

Majadi, like I said I was ranting. I'm one of us many who's had that West Indian landing between my Afrikan ancestry and my Amerikan present. My both parents were born in the territory called "US Virgin Islands". If I know anything about my West Indians, Dr. Ben is one of us.

I doubt Dr. Ben could provide you with any birth records any more than I can. His books are great, but there's absolutely no need to falsify one's identity. Actually it's disrespect to my WI brothas and sistas, as if we're not good enough just as we are.

[Majadi]

From what I understand his mother did not go to Puerto Rico but rather his dad went to Puerto Rico, I believe he was an Attorney or Engineer or something. Yes, I do have questioned the Alkebulan piece but be that as it may, we may have to do further research on this issue. I just don't know how relevant it is.

[PrinceHallBrother]

Supposedly Dr. Ben was born in Gondar, Ethiopia. Which means that his mom would have went there to give birth to him. The Falasha is very distinct and isolated culture, even within Ethiopia. The chances that this unique Falasha-Puerto Rican union would have taken place are minimal. And honestly, Dr. Ben looks and sounds like 100% West Indian Afrikan. Also, the Falasha is extremely proud people, and I doubt Dr. Ben's father would have told him to go to Egypt before going to Ethiopia to study Afrikan history... I know many Ethiopians and to them Ethiopia is the heart of the motherland.

I feel that these claims underestimate regular Afrikan folk, as if we don't know anything. The great Marcus Moziah Garvey founded the African Communities League so that every Afrikan no matter where they reside can feel part of the global Afrikan family, with no elitism or false identities!

[Langalibalele]

Originally Posted by PrinceHallBrother

I have nothing but love for Dr. Clarke and Dr. Williams and all the Pan-Afrikanist scholars who dedicated their lives to improve the condition of our consciousness as Afrikan people.

However, I feel that Dr. Ben's "Ethiopian Jewish" identity does more harm to the credibility of the Afrikan centered scholarship than what good his books have done.

Let's face it, Dr. Ben is not a Falasha. In 1915, at the height of colonial oppression and segregation, no Puerto Rican (black?) woman was able to travel to the remote highlands of Ethiopia to get pregnant with the child of a Falasha man.

Dr. Ben's features are authentically West Afrikan, with no hints of Afro-Semitic traces (all of us who know the diversity of the Afrikan people know what typical Ethiopians and Falashas look like). His strong West Indian accent bears no resemblance to any person who's been raised by a Tigrigna or Geez speaking Falasha.

Dr. Clarke wasn't ashamed of having been born to a sharecropper in the South. Most of our greatest freedom fighters do not come from some mythical place and time, why did Dr. Ben feel it so urgent to create the false identity?!

Sorry for ranting... but the truth of our people is beyond amazing even without any false identities.

I aint going surfing the web to find pics of Ethiopian tribes like the Omoro and others who are older than the Amharic and Falashas, and have features like West Africans, and are considered the original stock of Ethiopia and the Arabian Peninsula. The reason why the Amharic have so-called Semitic features is because of Arab admixture. The reason the Arabs have so-called Semitic features is because of Caucasian admixture. Look at all the reliefs from ancient Egypt (Khemmet). They are black, like Narmer, Khufu, Khafre, and others. This is the blood which runs from Dr. Yusuf AA Jochannan's veins.

He was a special envoy to the UN (UNESCO) on cultural affairs. They credentialized him, now you want to strip it away. Nigger, please!

[PrinceHallBrother]

Sorry, but no Falasha or Oromo looks like Dr. Ben. Also, no Falasha father names his son Alfredo Antonio.

I celebrate the diversity of our global Afrikan family, and we all know Afrikans come in multitude of shades and cultural distinctions. We are the most diverse "race" among all, ethnically, culturally and spiritually. We are not fools, Dr. Ben!

Becoming UNESCO official doesn't depend on Falasha origin one way or another...

[Langalibalele]

Originally Posted by PrinceHallBrother

...Becoming UNESCO official doesn't depend on Falasha origin one way or another...

I never said that. I said the UN credentialized him, which means that he was vetted, background checked, and they didnt discover any fraudulent claims by him. In fact, they went thru the process because of his scholarship par excellence! Now you want to defame the man; you better come correct. You better come up with something more than your weak ass assumptions already cited. Better researchers and security personnel have been put to the task of discrediting his claims. You wont succeed, especially here.

[PrinceHallBrother]

The country of his birth probably wasn't an issue to UNESCO anyway. Tell me, do you believe Dr. Ben's bio 100%?

[Langalibalele]

Originally Posted by PrinceHallBrother

The country of his birth probably wasn't an issue to UNESCO anyway. Tell me, do you believe Dr. Ben's bio 100%?

Why wouldn't documentation of his nativity be an issue? That would be proof of fraud. You raised the question and now you want to deflect it. Sho me any international body where all your background information is not important. Where your passports, birth certificates, police records, educational degrees, and any other portfolio requirements are ignored. If he fraudulently claims his birth origins, why stop there? What relevance does it have if you are born in a manger or a mansion, unless you seek to use that info to build a Ponzi scheme around yourself. Nobody, not even the bloodsucking crackers, have successfully repudiated Doc Ben on one point, and here you come slinging monkey crap. Dont lemme get out on you.

[PrinceHallBrother]

Do you know better or are you just a subscriber to a personality cult?

All I'm saying that his origins are suspect for anybody knowledgeable of Falasha culture and general diaspora history, and I don't see why our scholarly warriors should resort to such self-elevating myth business. Dr. J is from Newark, Baba Clarke was from Alabama, Garvey from St. Ann Jamaica etc. None of theirs self-bio is like Dr. Ben's...

[Langalibalele]

Originally Posted by PrinceHallBrother

Do you know better or are you just a subscriber to a personality cult?

All I'm saying that his origins are suspect for anybody knowledgeable of Falasha culture and general diaspora history, and I don't see why our scholarly warriors should resort to such self-elevating myth business. Dr. J is from Newark, Baba Clarke was from Alabama, Garvey from St. Ann Jamaica etc. None of theirs self-bio is like Dr. Ben's...

Right. UNESCO is a personality cult.