Does the bible, or Christian religion teach against Withcraft?

[afrikamen0506]

Originally Posted by TheStruggle

it using common sense. if you were talking about christianity religion, you would be talking about islam religion. you didn't know that, because they took idols along with them.

Brother, listen to yourself. Islam is not Christianity by far. I'm not a bible scholar but I do know that it is a European religion and it is stories of how them jews was running this and how corrupt they are. The Bible is good for it show us our real enemy and how we shall take care of that problem. So come on brother and study what your reading.

[Im The Truth]

Originally Posted by Majadi

Whoomph There it is! Study the writings of Dr.John G. Jackson, Dr. Josef Ben-Jochannen, Rev. Ishakamusa Barashango, Dr. Jacob Carruthers....Holy Crap I could do this forever!!!

Please read this post above.

[afrikamen0506]

Originally Posted by Im The Truth

Please read this post above.

What is it that you got from what they have written. I'd rather you tell me.

[afrikamen0506]

Originally Posted by Majadi

Whoomph There it is! Study the writings of Dr.John G. Jackson, Dr. Josef Ben-Jochannen, Rev. Ishakamusa Barashango, Dr. Jacob Carruthers....Holy Crap I could do this forever!!!

Are you validating that christianity came out of africa??

[TheStruggle]

Originally Posted by afrikamen0506

Brother, listen to yourself. Islam is not Christianity by far. I'm not a bible scholar but I do know that it is a European religion and it is stories of how them jews was running this and how corrupt they are. The Bible is good for it show us our real enemy and how we shall take care of that problem. So come on brother and study what your reading.

Yes Islam and Christianity is European religions. Arabs and Europeans were involved enslaving our people. So I do(so is you) should question Arabs with their blackstone and christianity with their carving images. which I put both religions together with the system because you can't have the system and God and many of us are starving and having problems because of the system. Somebody might be getting evil benefits.

[Vic da god]

Originally Posted by ALEGBA'S FRIEND

Voudou is from africa and it is a beautiful spiritual belief system,

but whitey makes it look like scary ooga-booga and

"oh big bad black people!" zombies and demons.

But if its white people and their wicca magic its fine.

Always demonizing black beliefs or anything african

and their magic is holy and pure.

I have spiritual beliefs and thats what i'm sticking to.

THis is exactly what Im indirectly dealing with. Everyone I know that are (Euro-) Christian hates on the use of magic as a whole andmake claims that god is against aany form of magic. Damn near ANY person I know will say "Haitians use voodoo and thats some evil shit, and thats why they're in a fucked up position in Haiti, eatin mud pies and all."

[Majadi]

Originally Posted by afrikamen0506

Are you validating that christianity came out of africa??

No moreso that I am validating or pointing out to be specific that Christianity and Islam and Judaism and all foundations of western philosophy and theology have their spiritual roots and historical legs in Afrika. We can be specific as to place and time yet I think our scholars have done enough in this field to verify this!

[SoularFlarez]

a TOOL can be a WEAPON in the wrong hands.... it has to do with one's intentions...

our modern media is witchcraft.... using sounds and images to plant ideas in ya subconscious... using actors in favorable or UNfavorable positions and their pretended emotional states to change OURS.... that aint a spell ???

science n religion USED to be... SHOULD be as husband and wife....... they want us to believe in magic, miracles and all that but dont want us to INNERstand any of it...just want us to be all ohhhh and ahhhh.....

[Im The Truth]

Originally Posted by TheStruggle

Yes Islam and Christianity is European religions. Arabs and Europeans were involved enslaving our people. So I do(so is you) should question Arabs with their blackstone and christianity with their carving images. which I put both religions together with the system because you can't have the system and God and many of us are starving and having problems because of the system. Somebody might be getting evil benefits.

The article below is for you too.

Originally Posted by afrikamen0506

What is it that you got from what they have written. I'd rather you tell me.

I'd rather you read the writings of Dr.John G. Jackson, Dr. Josef Ben-Jochannen, Rev. Ishakamusa Barashango, Dr. Jacob Carruthers, etc. But you can read this short article below.

Originally Posted by Im The Truth

Africans became Christians long before Europeans
IC Publications | New African | Articles

It is often said that Europeans brought Christianity to Africa. Not so, says Akinyi Princess of K’Orinda-Yimbo. “Jerusalem long lost or not, Christianity is Afro-Orient, not European. Christianity was thriving in the Horn of Africa in the 1st century, before this religion had really taken root anywhere in Europe,” she writes, adding “from as early as the Carolingian period – 7th to 8th century – African warriors were fighting in Europe under the banner of the lion, the shield and the half moon in order to bring the ‘true faith’, Christianity or Islam, to Europe. Europeans at the time were in the majority heathen and did everything in their power to remain heathen. Because Christ came from their corner of the world, [Africans] had embraced Christianity at a time when the religion was struggling to take root in Greece and Rome.” Welcome to Black History Month 2008. As usual, the African Diaspora in Britain will organise various events throughout October to mark the occasion. This year, New African celebrates Black History Month with a special package, staring here with an extract from Akinyi Princess’ excellent book, Darkest Europe and Africa’s Nightmare published earlier this year. In this extract, she focuses on a section of the African past which is too often swept under the carpet. Other articles in the package include “The Greek philosophers who came to Africa to study”, “The 25th anniversary of the American invasion of Grenada”, and “Another black history month in November if Obama wins the American presidency”. It is not the usual fare, so please sit back and enjoy … and we wish you a happy Black History Month.

Africa is always used as the barometer of the whole of humankind to uplift anybody who might think that his/her lot is rotten – because this lot is always portrayed as “better than that of the African”. That African of the Western media who makes you feel good because you are not at the bottom of the human ladder, like him. That African whose – if you trust the cameraman and his lighting – ash-grey or blue-black naked feet are covered with crawling maggots, which he/she is shaking off the fish-heads drying in the sun. The fish filets have of course been exported as Victoria tilapia to richer tables abroad. This is taken for granted even by the Africans themselves, not only the Westerners, as the natural order of things. If the African lets himself get so dehumanised, then it is his own fault. If he believes that poverty and misery are his condition, well then, he is welcome to it.

Remember the humanitarian Gilbert Murray’s blatant assertion: “There is in the world a hierarchy of races … those nations which eat more, claim more, and get higher wages, will direct and rule the others, and the lower work of the world will tend in the long run to be done by lower breeds of men. This much we of the ruling colour will no doubt accept as obvious.”

From the beginning of the 13th century, a certain Wolfram von Eschenbach of Germany created the image of the so-called noble Moor as a knight full of virtues, courage and a ripe fruit of faithfulness. With such famous institutions of learning like Timbuktu, the Moor’s education was touted to be beyond any other; pure and brave in battle he was, too. No other knight before him was so gentle for he knew no injustice, according to von Eschenbach. In Peter Martin’s book, Schwarze Teufel, edle Mohren, the author delves into a few details about this Africa’s and African’s light hidden under a bushel by the calculating West.

[Majadi]

I think we also have to be careful with the term witchcraft as well. What has been commonly referred to as witchcraft is ironically that good ole' Afrikan herbal medicine, spiritual tradition and what not! The Aryan looked at the power and healing practices of indigenous folks (Read:Africans) and in his misunderstanding he deems it negative. Now as with the misuse of media etc.( Or rather, the correct use for him!) he has termed our traditions as, dark, black, wicked and evil. We must use the new Ning site, this site and our other sites amd forms of vocal and written media to assist in our liberation!!!

[Vic da god]

Originally Posted by afrikamen0506

Are you validating that christianity came out of africa??

Awwww man dude.... Christianity came out of Africa man. They took all our Mystical symbols and beliefs and twisted it into a pathetic adulterated version of itself. Its Root is completely African.

The Europeans took one of our many trees of mysticism and spirituality out Africa.
They cut off from the trunk down and tossed that shit somewhere, so that no one could see its origin in its roots.
They cut off many of it's branches which promoted spiritual growth, and Universal Oneness.
They added some branches that made 'sense' to them.
It was complete, and they had a deteriorating piece of trunk, and a bunch branches, that kept falling off, and they named it "Christianity."
They commenced to fight over the beliefs of "their" Christianity for the next 2000 years, but could never make the tree whole in their fighting because they were too far from its root.
"Their" Christianity could not grow because it lies in infertile European retard soil, which is the product of their infertile minds.
Thus "their" Christianity has since slowly rotted.

So finally they Re-turned to Africa to get their parents to teach them how to dance.

And every once in a while we come across the seeds of ...

...Dr.John G. Jackson, Dr. Josef Ben-Jochannen, Rev. Ishakamusa Barashango, Dr. Jacob Carruthers, Pastor Ray Hagins, Dr. York, Dr. Ivan Van Sertima, Dr. John Henrik Clarke, and the list son on ...

... These scholars find the many trees and flowers which bear seeds, which are planted in our fertile minds. Plants have been growing ever since in our minds, And when that happens, the Euro promortion squad declares those plants Anti-Christian.

Meanwhile, the gods are all re-growing, re-membering re-creating the the original trees which founded Christianity.

Im a visual guy.

Yes, he is validating that Christianity came out of Africa.

[Vic da god]

Originally Posted by Majadi

I think we also have to be careful with the term witchcraft as well. What has been commonly referred to as witchcraft is ironically that good ole' Afrikan herbal medicine, spiritual tradition and what not! The Aryan looked at the power and healing practices of indigenous folks (Read:Africans) and in his misunderstanding he deems it negative. Now as with the misuse of media etc.( Or rather, the correct use for him!) he has termed our traditions as, dark, black, wicked and evil. We must use the new Ning site, this site and our other sites amd forms of vocal and written media to assist in our liberation!!!

Majadi, thats what Im talking about. When u look at the origin of the word, its root and its true meaning, all u find is

witch- a practitioner of supernatural or magical acts.
craft- a skill.

thus

a witchcraft is skill practice of supernatural or magical acts.

What is magic??
Not some evil shit that the devil gives out, but rather "Universal Cosmic Energy" as Killadream put it.

Therefore, all we're seing is a sterotype once again created by Europeans created to demoralize and dehumanize and disconnect us from our spiritual origins which were One with ALL.

[Majadi]

Originally Posted by Vic da god

Awwww man dude.... Christianity came out of Africa man. They took all our Mystical symbols and beliefs and twisted it into a pathetic adulterated version of itself. Its Root is completely African.

The Europeans took one of our many trees of mysticism and spirituality out Africa.
They cut off from the trunk down and tossed that shit somewhere, so that no one could see its origin in its roots.
They cut off many of it's branches which promoted spiritual growth, and Universal Oneness.
They added some branches that made 'sense' to them.
It was complete, and they had a deteriorating piece of trunk, and a bunch branches, that kept falling off, and they named it "Christianity."
They commenced to fight over the beliefs of "their" Christianity for the next 2000 years, but could never make the tree whole in their fighting because they were too far from its root.
"Their" Christianity could not grow because it lies in infertile European retard soil, which is the product of their infertile minds.
Thus "their" Christianity has since slowly rotted.

So finally they Re-turned to Africa to get their parents to teach them how to dance.

And every once in a while we come across the seeds of ...

...Dr.John G. Jackson, Dr. Josef Ben-Jochannen, Rev. Ishakamusa Barashango, Dr. Jacob Carruthers, Pastor Ray Hagins, Dr. York, Dr. Ivan Van Sertima, Dr. John Henrik Clarke, and the list son on ...

... These scholars find the many trees and flowers which bear seeds, which are planted in our fertile minds. Plants have been growing ever since in our minds, And when that happens, the Euro promortion squad declares those plants Anti-Christian.

Meanwhile, the gods are all re-growing, re-membering re-creating the the original trees which founded Christianity.

Im a visual guy.

Yes, he is validating that Christianity came out of Africa.

Vic Da God, indeed you are that, If you were in my presence you would get A Black Fist to pound, my brother thank you, your visuals even helped me overstand what I was saying....LMAO!!! The Scholar/Warriors have done work so far, now it is our time to expand on tha!!!!

[TheStruggle]

Originally Posted by Im The Truth

The article below is for you too.

I ain't specifically saying when christianity were in the african roots in the six/seven century. Generally I was saying is the christianity we see today is the european verison of the bible and Islam is the modern version of God's book. Which I think man prevail under Islam's authority trying to make it into their version. Then you get a person like Malcolm who put his life for us and Martin dying for our human rights. It will tells you there, the real answer is the person's identity. you can't judge a person by a religion but the spirits that rises the movement to not be sub-concious.
My friend, afrikanmen was saying the bible comes from a european religion. I think the bible is a african root peaceful religion.