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Icon Offtheair Will the N.O.I as "tribal government" support "Martial Law" under Obama?

Will the N.O.I as "tribal government" support "Martial Law" under Obama?

NSPD-51/ HSPD-20:

Purpose

..."This policy establishes "National Essential Functions," prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency."

Policy

Implementation Actions

(4) Continuity requirements shall be incorporated into daily operations of all executive departments and agencies. As a result of the asymmetric threat environment, adequate warning of potential emergencies that could pose a significant risk to the homeland might not be available, and therefore all continuity planning shall be based on the assumption that no such warning will be received.



Makes since.

Here's the official "Tribal Government" website:

A: A-Z Index of Tribal Governments, on USA.gov

The Nation of Islam is a "self-determined" form of (tribal) government. It's own "nation-state". A nation-state, generally implies that it's people probably speak the same language, practices the same or similar types of religion, and share a set of cultural, “national,” values.

The Nation of Islam can dismiss people from there nation, and religion as was done with El Hajj Malik Shabazz *(Malcolm X) and Khalid Muhammed.


Malcolm X & Farrakhan **The Regime change 1/9









MINISTER FARRAKHAN DISMISSES KHALID MUHAMMAD









As of 2008, The Hn. Minister Louis Farrakhan, had this to say at the Saviour's
Day Speech, held by the Nation of Islam about his "love" for Obama:










Farakhan is right!
Obama's takes great stride to openly aggress Iran at the AIPAC meeting.

21:00 minutes in Barack Obama on his alliance with the Europeans on elimanting Iran.

Did Farrakan miss this? Is this opportunity to support President Obama only tied to "expansion" of the Nation of Islam? Can Farrakhan support Iran and Obama's AIPAC agenda?:


  • "...As President I will implement a memorandum of understanding that provides $30 billion in assistance to Israel over the next decade..."
  • "....The danger from Iran is grave; it is real; and my goal will be to eliminate this threat..

  • "...an unshakeable committment to an qualitative advantage..."


  • "...30 billion dollars that will not be tied to any other nations..."


  • "...There's no greater threat to Israel, or to the peace and stability to the region, than Iran...??...21:00


  • ....My goal... will be to eliminate this threat....



AIPAC












October 11, 2008

Minister Farrakhan To Announce 'A New Beginning' Oct. 19
Nation of Islam leader to make major statement at mosque dedication

Address to be carried live via webcast and will be freely available to the public


Farrakhan announces a new beginning for the Nation of Islam

The "new beginning" for the Nation of Islam represents an expansion of its mission, but its role as a champion for freedom, justice and equality for Blacks will not be diminished. God wants to use Blacks, who have experienced the worst suffering in human history, to call the world back to order, said Min. Farrakhan.

The Muslim world and countries in Africa, Asia and Muslims in Russia welcomed the Nation following the Million Man March in 1995, and in each country visited there were calls establishment of branches of U.S.-based movement, Min. Farrakhan said.

"We are taking the teachings of the Hon Elijah Muhammad to a new level and that new level will represent a new beginning and another stage of our evolutionary development," said Min. Farrakhan.

The Nation has steadily increased its outreach, opening doors to Blacks from the Caribbean, then Asians and Latinos, he said. The Minister noted that in the early days of the movement, membership in the Nation of Islam was limited only to American Blacks.

He compared the Nation's expanded reach to the growth of Jesus' teachings beyond Palestine and the expanded light of Islam, which spread after the death of Prophet Muhammad, whose initial mission was to unite and raise the tribes of Arabia.

"They want what Elijah Muhammad taught us in the Muslim world. Prophet Muhammad said that the light of Islam would rise in the West in the latter days, that is our task," he said.


Question:
  • Where in the Quran does it condone and teach that Elijah Muhammad should worship Fard Muhammad, as ALLAH, in the flesh?




Muhammad Forbidden from Issuing
Any Religious Teachings other than the Quran.

[69:44] Had he uttered any other teachings.

[69:45] We would have punished him.

[69:46] We would have stopped the revelations to him.

[69:47] None of you could have helped him.

[69:48] This is a reminder for the righteous.

[69:49] We know; some of you are rejectors.

[69:50] It is but sorrow for the disbelievers.

[69:51] It is the absolute truth.

[69:52] Therefore, you shall glorify the name of your Lord, Most Great.


[4:48] GOD does not forgive idolatry, but He forgives lesser offenses for whomever He wills. Anyone who sets up idols beside GOD, has forged a horrendous offense.


[4:49] Have you noted those who exalt themselves? Instead, GOD is the One who exalts whomever He wills, without the least injustice.

[4:50] Note how they fabricate lies about GOD; what a gross offense this is!

[4:51] Have you noted those who received a portion of the scripture, and how they believe in idolatry and false doctrine, then say, "The disbelievers are better guided than the believers?!"


yes Lord I've taken note...




Obama rejects and denounces Farrakhan











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I am not a follower of Minister Farrakhan. I wouldnt think he would support this. I know The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad wouldnt support it because He is working tirelessly for "national Independence" so that our people arent subjected to such things as this. From the perspective of a Muslim, my personal feeling is that if Allah is with you who can be against you. It is also my personal feeling that The Devil has a plan and Allah has a plan, and Allah is the very best of planners. I take it on faith that We wont be the Losers, regardless of what The Devil does. Faith because I cant see the future.
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Having given this subject further thought, I would think the NOI would not qualify as a tribal government as per U.S. policy. First in my mind is that Obama denounces Minister Farrakhan. Second, the U.S. doesnt want Black people to have any form of government that might qualify for recognition by the U.N. Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization. "Tribal Government," in my mind, probably refers to Native American tribal governments.
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Icon Offtheair The Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization (UNPO)

A: A-Z Index of Tribal Governments, on USA.gov



Introduction

The Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization (UNPO) is an international, nonviolent, and democratic membership organisation.

Its members are indigenous peoples, minorities, and unrecognised or occupied territories who have joined together to protect and promote their human and cultural rights, to preserve their environments, and to find nonviolent solutions to conflicts which affect them.

Although the aspirations of UNPO Members differ greatly, they are all united by one shared condition – they are not adequately represented at major international fora, such as the United Nations.

As a consequence, their opportunity to participate on the international stage is significantly limited, as is their ability to access and draw upon the support of the global bodies mandated to defend their rights, protect their environments, and mitigate the effects of conflict".


The United Nations (UN)
  • This Organization consist of:
  • General Assembly
  • The Economic and Social Council Since 1998, it has held another meeting each April with finance ministers heading key committees of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

Membership

  • Membership in the United Nations is open to all other peace-loving states which accept the obligations contained in the present Charter and, in the judgment of the Organization, are able and willing to carry out these obligations.
  • The admission of any such state to membership in the United Nations will be effected by a decision of the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security Council
A nation is a cultural and socialcommunity.


A state is a political association with effective sovereignty over a geographic area and representing a population. These may be nation states, sub-national states or multinational states. A state usually includes the set of institutions that claim the authority to make the rules that govern the people of the society in that territory, though its status as a state often depends in part on being recognized by a number of other states as having internal and external sovereignty over it.

Question:

Why is Saudi Arabia apart of the United Nations?

Does the House of Saud mean nation-state, under Absolute Monarchy?


Quick Notes:
  • The modern Nation of Saudi Arabia was established in 1932
  • In principle, only sovereign states can become UN members, and today all UN members are fully sovereign states.

  • However, four of the original members (Belarus, India, the Philippines, and Ukraine) were not independent at the time of their admission. Moreover, because a state can only be admitted by the approval of the Security Council and the General Assembly, some entities which may be considered sovereign states according to the Montevideo Convention are not members due to the fact that the UN do not consider them to be sovereign states, the lack of international recognition or opposition from certain members.
  • In casual usage, the terms "country," "nation," and "state" are often used as if they were synonymous; but in a more strict usage they can be distinguished:


  • Country denotes a geographical area

  • Nation denotes a people who are believed to or deemed to share common customs, origins, and history. However, the adjectives national and international also refer to matters pertaining to what are strictly states, as in national capital, international law

  • State refers to the set of governing institutions that has sovereignty over a definite territory
The term nation is often used as a synonym for ethnic group (sometimes "ethnos"), but although ethnicity is now one of the most important aspects of cultural or social identity, people with the same ethnic origin may live in different nation-states and be treated as members of separate nations for that reason. National identity is often disputed, down to the level of the individual.




Though a nation is not identical to a state, the people of a nation-state consider themselves a nation; while traditionally monocultural, it may also be multicultural in its self-definition.
  • The United States government's Office of Inter-American Affairs or Office for Coordination of Commercial and Cultural Relations between the American Republics (OCCCRBAR) was established in 1940 to promote increased inter-American interference, especially in commercial and economic areas, as they see fit. It was renamed Office of the Coordinator of Inter-American Affairs (CIAA) in 1941 and Office for Inter-American Affairs in 1945.


  • Coordinator of OCCCCRBAR and OCIAA (1940 - 1944) Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller

  • By an Executive order *( they are the Executive order) of August 31, 1945, the informational activities of the Office of Inter-American Affairs were transferred to the Department of State; and by an Executive order of April 10, 1946, the Office was said to be "abolished" . Question??? If it was "abolished" how did it's remaining functions and responsibilities get transferred, anywhere, and especially to the State Department.
  • The Department also supports the foreign affairs activities of other U.S. Government entities including the United States Department of Commerce and the U.S. Agency for International Development. It also provides an array of important services to U.S. citizens and to foreigners seeking to visit or immigrate to the U.S.
  • The United States Department of State, often referred to as the State Department, is the Cabinet-level "foreign affairs agency" of the United States government, equivalent to foreign ministries in other countries. It is administered by the Secretary of State Condelleza Rice.
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Title 25: Indians
PART 83—PROCEDURES FOR ESTABLISHING THAT AN AMERICAN INDIAN GROUP EXISTS AS AN INDIAN TRIBE
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§ 83.7 Mandatory criteria for Federal acknowledgment.

The mandatory criteria are:

(a) The petitioner has been identified as an American Indian entity on a substantially continuous basis since 1900. Evidence that the group's character as an Indian entity has from time to time been denied shall not be considered to be conclusive evidence that this criterion has not been met. Evidence to be relied upon in determining a group's Indian identity may include one or a combination of the following, as well as other evidence of identification by other than the petitioner itself or its members.

(1) Identification as an Indian entity by Federal authorities.

(2) Relationships with State governments based on identification of the group as Indian.

(3) Dealings with a county, parish, or other local government in a relationship based on the group's Indian identity.

(4) Identification as an Indian entity by anthropologists, historians, and/or other scholars.

(5) Identification as an Indian entity in newspapers and books.

(6) Identification as an Indian entity in relationships with Indian tribes or with national, regional, or state Indian organizations.

(b) A predominant portion of the petitioning group comprises a distinct community and has existed as a community from historical times until the present.

(1) This criterion may be demonstrated by some combination of the following evidence and/or other evidence that the petitioner meets the definition of community set forth in §83.1:

(i) Significant rates of marriage within the group, and/or, as may be culturally required, patterned out-marriages with other Indian populations.

(ii) Significant social relationships connecting individual members.

(iii) Significant rates of informal social interaction which exist broadly among the members of a group.

(iv) A significant degree of shared or cooperative labor or other economic activity among the membership.

(v) Evidence of strong patterns of discrimination or other social distinctions by non-members.

(vi) Shared sacred or secular ritual activity encompassing most of the group.

(vii) Cultural patterns shared among a significant portion of the group that are different from those of the non-Indian populations with whom it interacts. These patterns must function as more than a symbolic identification of the group as Indian. They may include, but are not limited to, language, kinship organization, or religious beliefs and practices.

(viii) The persistence of a named, collective Indian identity continuously over a period of more than 50 years, notwithstanding changes in name.

(ix) A demonstration of historical political influence under the criterion in §83.7(c) shall be evidence for demonstrating historical community.

(2) A petitioner shall be considered to have provided sufficient evidence of community at a given point in time if evidence is provided to demonstrate any one of the following:

(i) More than 50 percent of the members reside in a geographical area exclusively or almost exclusively composed of members of the group, and the balance of the group maintains consistent interaction with some members of the community;

(ii) At least 50 percent of the marriages in the group are between members of the group;

(iii) At least 50 percent of the group members maintain distinct cultural patterns such as, but not limited to, language, kinship organization, or religious beliefs and practices;

(iv) There are distinct community social institutions encompassing most of the members, such as kinship organizations, formal or informal economic cooperation, or religious organizations; or

(v) The group has met the criterion in §83.7(c) using evidence described in §83.7(c)(2).

(c) The petitioner has maintained political influence or authority over its members as an autonomous entity from historical times until the present.

(1) This criterion may be demonstrated by some combination of the evidence listed below and/or by other evidence that the petitioner meets the definition of political influence or authority in §83.1.

(i) The group is able to mobilize significant numbers of members and significant resources from its members for group purposes.

(ii) Most of the membership considers issues acted upon or actions taken by group leaders or governing bodies to be of importance.

(iii) There is widespread knowledge, communication and involvement in political processes by most of the group's members.

(iv) The group meets the criterion in §83.7(b) at more than a minimal level.

(v) There are internal conflicts which show controversy over valued group goals, properties, policies, processes and/or decisions.

(2) A petitioning group shall be considered to have provided sufficient evidence to demonstrate the exercise of political influence or authority at a given point in time by demonstrating that group leaders and/or other mechanisms exist or existed which:

(i) Allocate group resources such as land, residence rights and the like on a consistent basis.

(ii) Settle disputes between members or subgroups by mediation or other means on a regular basis;

(iii) Exert strong influence on the behavior of individual members, such as the establishment or maintenance of norms and the enforcement of sanctions to direct or control behavior;

(iv) Organize or influence economic subsistence activities among the members, including shared or cooperative labor.

(3) A group that has met the requirements in paragraph 83.7(b)(2) at a given point in time shall be considered to have provided sufficient evidence to meet this criterion at that point in time.

(d) A copy of the group's present governing document including its membership criteria. In the absence of a written document, the petitioner must provide a statement describing in full its membership criteria and current governing procedures.

(e) The petitioner's membership consists of individuals who descend from a historical Indian tribe or from historical Indian tribes which combined and functioned as a single autonomous political entity.

(1) Evidence acceptable to the Secretary which can be used for this purpose includes but is not limited to:

(i) Rolls prepared by the Secretary on a descendancy basis for purposes of distributing claims money, providing allotments, or other purposes;

(ii) State, Federal, or other official records or evidence identifying present members or ancestors of present members as being descendants of a historical tribe or tribes that combined and functioned as a single autonomous political entity.

(iii) Church, school, and other similar enrollment records identifying present members or ancestors of present members as being descendants of a historical tribe or tribes that combined and functioned as a single autonomous political entity.

(iv) Affidavits of recognition by tribal elders, leaders, or the tribal governing body identifying present members or ancestors of present members as being descendants of a historical tribe or tribes that combined and functioned as a single autonomous political entity.

(v) Other records or evidence identifying present members or ancestors of present members as being descendants of a historical tribe or tribes that combined and functioned as a single autonomous political entity.

(2) The petitioner must provide an official membership list, separately certified by the group's governing body, of all known current members of the group. This list must include each member's full name (including maiden name), date of birth, and current residential address. The petitioner must also provide a copy of each available former list of members based on the group's own defined criteria, as well as a statement describing the circumstances surrounding the preparation of the current list and, insofar as possible, the circumstances surrounding the preparation of former lists.

(f) The membership of the petitioning group is composed principally of persons who are not members of any acknowledged North American Indian tribe. However, under certain conditions a petitioning group may be acknowledged even if its membership is composed principally of persons whose names have appeared on rolls of, or who have been otherwise associated with, an acknowledged Indian tribe. The conditions are that the group must establish that it has functioned throughout history until the present as a separate and autonomous Indian tribal entity, that its members do not maintain a bilateral political relationship with the acknowledged tribe, and that its members have provided written confirmation of their membership in the petitioning group.

(g) Neither the petitioner nor its members are the subject of congressional legislation that has expressly terminated or forbidden the Federal relationship.

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