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Look at this filth:
Now-- when I WAS heavily on here back in the day, one of the two things i listed as most dangerous to us was religion.
Now-- with us as apeople whom are primarily progressing out of religion-- it's time to confront the NEW monster on the horizon.
Being led by our very own black females of this nation-- yes that's right-- FEMINISM..
What in the WORLD is going on with some of these Afrocentric brothers HEADS these days?
Seti with all of his lectures and I cant even find ONE on the treachery that is black feminism.
And the drugged-out afrocentrics in this clip-- whom USED to be afiliated with him-- are EVEN WORST!
Is it just ME or has the black power movement TOTALLY been taken over by FEMINISM?
we ought to be ashamed of ourselves.
and you KNOW right along with Feminism comes that homosexuality SHXT that they are ALWAYS try to bring with them!
Is that what's next for us as a people?
We, as black men, need to have BACKBONES and STOP letting this treachery INTO our community.
black man-- take the PANTIES out of your face, mind and AWAY from your EYES and concentrate on RESTORING your nation.
piz-eace.
That video was disgusting does taa-booty talk about male breast feeding in it (you seen that)
What let me know that feminism is crazy in this movement is this video I saw today and I was gonna post on
[nomedia]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh0iEDJ3Zko&feature=related[/nomedia]
This broad is the most popular conscious women or man on youtube with 12,000 subscribers all her videos go viral.She spits the normal 'conscious' but then there has been whispers but she got outed as a hoe like alot of these goddesses she was in a porno as an extra jerking white dick,getting lapdances,dancing and singing and chanting to the white man 'work that dick'.Now cause she got outed she says he needed a $100 to repair her break pads which probably is a lie ! But if it was'nt all you needed to jump on a crackers dick is $100 ????????
But the main point is how she does'nt feel its a major thing or she should be judged she's with ''I can do whatever I wanna do'' she can but dont blame the man when it backfires.Look at the feedback from the women ratings & comments its really disturbing these women are behind such fuckery like its the man fault cause he should provide for us thats why we gotta hustle or men hoe around so why cant we.
I've lost alot of respect for these so called conscious women cause of this
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As a black male both of these posts really really concern me. To the Untouchable Cat exactly what is provoking your caution with brothers and sisters who study Kemetic science coming to the conclusion that women and female energy are the beginnings of all life on the planet? I personally don't practice Kemetic science or delve to deeply into religion when it relates to black empowerment but explain to me how what any of those brothers or sisters said in that video is dangerous to the movement? If that is their conclusion then fine; I am even likely to agree that their might be some truth to what they said even though I'm not to sure that men should or can breast feed. Yet I am wondering why it is so offensive to you? After the hell we have put women as a whole (especially women of color through) It is about time they got some recognition and respect. And what is this grand deception/treason that you say the black woman committed? I'm sorry to put this accusation out there brother but your lost and your disrespect for the woman's movement as a whole I take as sexism.
As for the second brother who posted. I think we need to be more upset that their are occupation listings such as what that woman had to witness being more prevalent then those actually helping our women study or obtain a respectable job. And while you and I may have our own opinions about what she did, WE CANNOT JUDGE It BECAUSE WE ARE NOT WOMEN. If she says she felt like she had to do it, then I am going to take her word for it. As a male I have the benefit of not having pimps approach me in times of financial need and ask me to do something that compromises my morals, or strip or be in a adult movie, because I am a man jobs are easier to find. You both need to re-evaluate your views of the women's movement.
AND P.S.
Just remember that freedoms are given and taken away in stages
so while you guys downplay and demean the gay/lesbian movement and the feminism movement you also demean the liberation of black men as well because If white America, or Americans as a whole come to the consensus that the rights and fight for equality of gays or lesbians or women is not important, then how it sets a precedent by which we give someone the right to decide who deserves equality/ recognition and who does not. Which is a right that NO MAN ON EARTH HAS.
So don't play yourselves.
Abu Bakr
Do For Self.
Sorry Bro,But your a little a moist !!!!
A reply comment made about that videoyup. See me im a ex-Christian but im also West African so I know our ancestors were in Kemet. But see a lot of what these sisters who claim to be so called conscious is simply Goddess Worship. Many of these sistas want attention and to also be put up on a pedestal..this is what attracts them to the conscious community in the first place. They love being told "The Black Woman is God". Many of them could care less about the principles of the conscious community.
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This reply is disingenuous at best.
The two sisters around a min and 20 seconds in is REALLY all that needs to be said.
the black man is disposable and the woman is precious.
Yet, it is PRECISELY this "disposing" of black men that has LEAD directly to the onslaught of what defines OUR degenerate communities today.
Hell-- dont believe me?
Ask the droves of black females out there-- they will clearly tell you better than I can.
See above.I personally don't practice Kemetic science or delve to deeply into religion when it relates to black empowerment but explain to me how what any of those brothers or sisters said in that video is dangerous to the movement?
so, now we are embarking down the argument that if it is THEIR conclusion or opinion than that is just what we HAVE to accept.If that is their conclusion then fine;
Our LACK of standards and holding our people ACCOUNTABLE not only for the things they SAY, but DO is precisely why the black community and the Afrocentric one has came to an absolute HALT.
W have people trying to tip-toe around the tulips defending and trying to please EVERY single piece of debauchery and interest (homosexuality, incest, feminism, gay rights) EXCEPT our own.
No one else in the WORLD does this except for us.
"We?" Sir-- name one event in history in which black males persecuted black females en masse.After the hell we have put women as a whole (especially women of color through) It is about time they got some recognition and respect.
There is nobody white or MALE here, that statement cant properly apply to me nor any other BLACK man of this forum.
the disrespect was done by the woman's movement if anything.And what is this grand deception/treason that you say the black woman committed? I'm sorry to put this accusation out there brother but your lost and your disrespect for the woman's movement as a whole I take as sexism.
Look at the two sisters in the vid and TELL me that is NOT disrespect for the black man?
We could use that very same argument against Pedophiles, serial killers, and children if we wanted to.WE CANNOT JUDGE It BECAUSE WE ARE NOT WOMEN.
I guess we shouldnt judge any of them either.
Actually, she explains that SHE responded to the Craig's List ad-- not the other way around.If she says she felt like she had to do it, then I am going to take her word for it. As a male I have the benefit of not having pimps approach me in times of financial need and ask me to do something that compromises my morals, or strip or be in a adult movie, because I am a man jobs are easier to find.
No one MADE her do anything.
This is yet another excuse we give to women to compromise the morals in our community.
Temptation is all around us-- it doesnt give anyone an excuse to bend into it.
this is already happening.so while you guys downplay and demean the gay/lesbian movement and the feminism movement you also demean the liberation of black men as well because If white America, or Americans as a whole come to the consensus that the rights and fight for equality of gays or lesbians or women is not important, then how it sets a precedent by which we give someone the right to decide who deserves equality/ recognition and who does not.
Abu Bakr
and for all the screaming and shouting of how big, bad, and evil the black man is-- and how chauvinistic his views and thoughts towards society is, GUESS whom the black female will be running to for protection once the rights of Us and all these other groups are repealed?
That's right.. to us. feminism be dxmned!
We dont need "rights" to secure us. that was the failure of the civil rights generation-- all we need-- in the words of Khallid are our "God and our Gun". Economic empowerment is the agenda.
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...sigh...
I need some women input on this thread, if any of you out there have the energy for it...
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Oh boy, am I going to get in trouble here.
First of all... great thread!
Second, men are totally unnecessary to create new life. Women will be unnecessary as soon as they create an artifical womb, or develop a method to grow clones in a pig's uterus.
But, is that what we want?
Parenting, as in raising a well balanced adult is something that is better done by a couple of a father and a mother. Through a father and a mother, children learn healthy ways to deal with the opposite sex, and with their own identities.
Feminism, in my opinion, does not take away anything from a family. A free independent woman, freely decides to fulfill her biological need for nesting and procreation, taking a man, loving him, and raising a family. She can even decide, freely, that he will be the head of that family, which is no easy task for a man. Leading a family with a strong, smart woman, demands a strong, smart, man.
I believe that a woman should study, to be a good mother, work, to help with the finances of the family, and be thrifty to provide a cushion for her and her children, if the man is suddenly gone, for whatever reason.
I feel really sorry for the girl in the video. Obviously she is not happy about what she did, and that is why she is trying to make a case that she does not care about our opinion. Ha! Then why make a video with that loooong explanation?
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Theres a link the censored porno on youtube
[nomedia]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3DDJ-iev1k&feature=related[/nomedia]
I'm asking you do you think its acceptable for an so called ''conscious female guru' to be in a porno that involves white men stripping and jerking their dicks ??
If you do that means you condone females whoring around and guess what conclusions some people might make about you ?
All this Afrika shit (pardon me) about 'we used to do this in Afrika' women did'nt throw their pussy like confetti in Afrika how about that !
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Definitely not! It is a terrible thing to do when you achieve status of role model to then descend to whoredom.
Now a question, what does Feminism have to do with PORN? Feminism is about women's liberation, porn is about human exploitation.If you do that means you condone females whoring around and guess what conclusions some people might make about you ?
All this Afrika shit (pardon me) about 'we used to do this in Afrika' women did'nt throw their pussy like confetti in Afrika how about that !
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My AV represents the Harpy Eagle, whichis the national bird of Panama. It is an endangered species that nests high in the forests of regions that go from Mexico to South America.
Its terrible when you attain supreme wisdom and you do such things it shows a person is a deciever and just has 'put lipstick on a pig'
''''Feminism is about women's liberation
So Black woman need to liberate themselves from black men ?
Or liberate themselves the responsibility of being a black woman in the plural (wife,mother,teacher etc.) opposed to being a black woman singular(ego and focused on own feelings and self intrest ?
Black women have been the most venerated women in the world and that is due to the Black man (Heru) alone !
Black woman have made the error of following behind the white bitch and want the black man to follow so he in turn has to bow to the white man (read the isis papers)and assume a passive role in society case in point bill clinton & barack obama press conference a few weeks ago
There heavy metaphysical effeminizing elements in that video
Now why femenism played a role in this porno scandal is because the woman who was jerking white dick was not remorseful and neither were these ''goddesses'' that are supporting her apparently her jerking white dick to pay $120 is the black man's fault cause he should be there to provide.These women wanna flaunt this 'i'm a indepndent women bullshit' but when they fuck up they wanna blame men or say 'a 'real man' should accept my imperfections'
How do we know her break pads were broken?
Whos to say there are'nt more videos out there ?
If it is true and she will do that for $120 what would she do for $1000 ?
All valid and pragmatic questions
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judgmental people... remember, you're not in her shoes. its not like she did something illegal. believe me, if a $100 bill was laying in front of you, you'd pick it up too. its. cold world out there, sometimes i think im getting a bit frosty myself.to me this explanation wasnt even necessary. Shes a grown as woman. This is the real fucking world. People have issues and people make mistakes. Yall need to get up off yall high horses for real cuz im sure yall got some shits in your closets too. keep doing your thing indigo.Blaque don't sweat the reaction from your excursion sister. After the content you posted on it should be expected. Now if your viewers want to make a donation to your personal welfare they should. Everything is interconnected and must come full circle, so what is done in the dark will come to the light. Learn and grow from this and nothing will be lost. Men do the same thing, but in reverse, and way more demeaning. My question is: Who is the conscious watching Ghetto Gaggers and spotted you?viewer commentsdid you not here the part where she said she needed quick cash? exactly. how about you shut the fuck up. and she was thinking about how she was going to get her brakes fixed. will a bus solve her car problems? no. she needed her brakes fixed.
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Perfectly well put Queen. Tho that is not what some people would call feminism. Its just healthy balance. Balance is always the way to go
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Exactly. The fact that there's one woman, or a hundred for the matter, claiming this and that while doin porn DOESNT speak for the aspirations of all conscious Black women. In fact, Black women are the ones coming up with a more healthy and balanced view of so called feminism, which in no way destroys the family but the other way around.
Seems to me that you too are bashing your conscious empowered women just because some women went wild. Well women had been watching men goin wild and being stupid for so long, but some of us are still willing not to comdemn you all for other's actions, see you in a positive light, and build something together.
We women proudly call you Kings and God like, that can only be if we see ourselves as Queens and god like. Ego-driven people are found in all genres and races, so dont be surprised when you find some ego-driven women.
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For all wrong she did that night and im not making justification for her cause i dont know her, her opinion on family and Black men is not the wild negative feminism u are talkin about
From minute 5:20
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greetings-
what would the sistahs' think if they found conscious black men running around after dark with eddie long...??? or if we were found to be performing cunnilingus on white women...??? i cannot condone performing sexual acts because the brakes on the car need to be fixed- let's keep it real. many people have money issues also but, none so great that would call for such behavior. there are homeless and starving people among us who do not lower themselves to such depths. to be 'conscious' should mean something... should stand for something... not simply a garment that can be discarded when it suits one to do so. i personally believe that black women have suffered greatly but, i fail to see how their suffering can be separated from mine. i do not think that she should take a back seat to me because when we were in chains, she had to "pick a bail of cotton just like me" and, she had better not come up short because she could not rely on me to protect or defend her. that said, we must strive to create a nation of do-for-self people who can defend what we create. there are numerous examples of black folks creating and white folks 'burning it down' in this country- black wall st., rosewood etc... not enough examples of black folks willing to die to defend what we have created; and by black folks i mean black men. personally, i am tired of seeing our women behaving this way- conscious or not- and then 'explaining' that they think and feel that there is no other option. where does this mentality spring from...??? are we so limited in our thinking that we honestly feel we have no other option than to sell our bodies...??? are there not any among us who have not compassion enough to help out our brotha and sistah in time of need...??? now, the brakes is weak... that is a lame excuse and sistah sellout gets no empathy for that b.s. however, the larger issues speak to our shortcomings as a people and the mindset we currently have. almost as if to say, when the going gets tough, "shake yo -ss, sho me whachu workin' wit".
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Huh?
How are men totally unnecessary?
AgreedWomen will be unnecessary as soon as they create an artifical womb, or develop a method to grow clones in a pig's uterus.
But, is that what we want?
Parenting, as in raising a well balanced adult is something that is better done by a couple of a father and a mother. Through a father and a mother, children learn healthy ways to deal with the opposite sex, and with their own identities.
Again.. this is disingenuous feminism talking again.Feminism, in my opinion, does not take away anything from a family. A free independent woman, freely decides to fulfill her biological need for nesting and procreation, taking a man, loving him, and raising a family. She can even decide, freely, that he will be the head of that family, which is no easy task for a man. Leading a family with a strong, smart woman, demands a strong, smart, man.
Feminism and the "freeing" of women to begin their journey towards "sexual independence" is what HAS taken away from the traditional concepts and outlook on establishing the nuclear family.
It became about WOMEN first, much to the chagrin of the family, the household, the husband/father, and even the children.
The movement in and of itself-- although sound in certain parts-- reveals a sort of eyebrow-raising mis-prioritization when taking a gander at it holistically, and how it incorporates into the rest of society, esp. concerning the family household.
This, at core, is not the essence of feminism. Feminism is the freedom for a woman to decide what SHE feels is right, circumstance nor the opinions of what others feel or believe women should do to help out society, not considered.I believe that a woman should study, to be a good mother, work, to help with the finances of the family, and be thrifty to provide a cushion for her and her children, if the man is suddenly gone, for whatever reason.
While what you say is admirable, many other feminist scholars do NOT and will not agree.
As far as critiquing your solutions-- the best way to avoid any man "disappearing" on you after pro-creation, is simply to STOP DOING it with any man except the one whom has pledged his life to you via marriage and wedding vows.
The financial "cushion" that is alimony and child support is there as established by the courts, as well as your reputation and conscious free as a good WIFE (not baby MAMA), good marriage partner, and good mother who did all she could to do the right thing, still intact.
Win-win for everybody except for the loser of a husband whom decided to leave.
But when looking at the divorce rates-- that^^ form of reality is less likely to be true seeing that men are MUCH much less likely to leave or divorce when married. Hence the importance of a man being MARRIED to you before you decide to have his kids, because it is a SURE-FIRE way of keeping him in check, and establishing balance. You will not achieve same said results the other way around (having OOW children before marriage). The likelihood of ANYONE divorcing inside of marriage will more than likely be the woman as it is something they commit to a rate 2/3rds the time.
the tale of Ms. Indigo apparently is the shot heard 'round the world.I feel really sorry for the girl in the video. Obviously she is not happy about what she did, and that is why she is trying to make a case that she does not care about our opinion. Ha! Then why make a video with that loooong explanation?
With a woman of her influence, and all the videos she's done and all the women she's coached, this was nothing short of tragic.
It takes a lifetime to earn one's solid trust and reputation, and only a minute to lose it.
Shame. but if this were an Afrocentric brother-- like Seti-- shown in a video all over some White woman, sistas would have hung him up on the highest tree with no shame at all. Excuses or defending of his behavior be DXMNED!
This is perhaps one of the most ironic thing about many of the afro-feminist sisters of the community as well as the first brother whom responded to me and Ture earlier in this thread.
When it comes to black men-- there simply are no excuses, we hold them to the HIGHEST standard and if they even THINK about breaking away from it we dont hesitate in in even THINKING about mincing our words. But when it comes to the sisters-- every excuse in the book comes out of the woodwork as to how or why we should excuse EVERY single derogatory action or word out of their mouths. and thus they, their mating habits and the PRODUCTS of their mating habits become the TABOO issues in the community that everyone wants to avoid conversation about for fear of stepping on someone's feelings.
this is what has lead to a culture whom has taken admiration in single-mom households, shifty men with no responsibility and held to no accountability (other than fancy jewelry and tatoos with his shirt off or some expensive car) in which all are usually the product of one too many people having out-of-control sex like animals, in which people are too scared to intervene or say something about it. Therefore NOTHING gets done, and the situation gets WORST. Making what used to be very rare and embarrassing exceptions the now accepted norm. The fathers-- due to how their background in how they were raised in single-mom communities, never had any father around them in their lives, so see no need to be one, soon end up leaving, and if not are eventually pushed out by women who they themselves dont see the point in fatherhood or manhood, because they have never had one (or at the very least-- sterling examples of one) in their lives either.
and the child grows up in a broken home, with a mother constantly at work, no one watching over her child (and if he is a boy) turns to the streets to look for his "family", in which the peers that he finds are often in no better shape then he is.
Taking all of this into account, it isnt a wonder anymore about the crime rate often thrown at blacks with little to no outlook on the CAUSES of it. The latest studies have been shown linking a boy's not having a father or father-like figure, with his later own overcompensation in life to try to "prove" his manhood to make up for the fact that he has never had a real life example of what it is. Cue in the guns, drugs (for his own income independent of his mother-- boys learn young that this is very important towards establishing the first part towards feeling like a "man"), and the typical hip-hop-BET bravado, and voila!
the situation of Black people in America explained.
and we wonder why the community is SO out of balance.
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Great post. And I agree with everything else you've said.
But I wanted to chime in a bit on this part here.
There has never been a time in history in which black men have ever said black females should take a "back seat" to black males.
This is something completely made up by the black feminist in this nation.
as far as the "protecting and defending" part.
Two things. I've noticed this alot with alot of Afrocentric people like Seti, who like to use such uber-masculine words like "protect and defend" without taking things into REALISTIC context.
1.) Black men came here in CHAINS, as well as black females-- there was no protecting or defending coming from ANYBODY, other than white males protecting and defending THEIR interest.
Yes-- it is admirable that black men are trying to take some accountability for being the ones to protect and defend, but historically it also is unrealistic. Now if the sisters cannot underSTAND that, then it's time for them to go their separate ways and date white boys. we dont need any of that.
2.) even if we were to by-pass the slavery point and look at today and today only.
a.) as soon as slavery ended Jim Crow began-- in which the era between the rising of Boker T. Washington and Garvey's death-- black people did REMARKABLY well concerning almost every statistic of back then. in which the great majority of the FIRST black feminists called the men of back then on through the mid-20th century as some of the most ugly groups of black men to ever exist. and bypassed the achievements many black men made once slavery ended began analyzing why it was we didnt "rescue" black females from slavery to begin with. Brothers were still very much being bad-mouthed back then. nothing changed despite everything that could be showed.
b.) and even if black men were to get up and "provide and protect", due to the situation that Ive outlined in my response to anyansi that we were put in via gov't warfare, ll that would happen would be just another wide-spread feminist and cultural push-back from the women still. Ou hands are tied. Black women want it both ways. A group of men to "lead the way" and "provide and protect" them to freedom, yet only on THEIRtime, their watch and their say-so. Not taking into account that one woman's "time", "watch", or "say-so" differs from the next and so on. One issue one black female feels passionatley about may be an issue another feels passionately about going against. Black men, as these proposed leaders, do NOT have time to individually consult with each and every female to find out an issue that "good for them".
This concept of black male "leadership" but only at black female "beck-and-call" or when they point and yell "fetch" or "sic'em", not towards REAL issues but whenever they want us to BAIL THEM OUT of something is mock leadership at best. and really shows the level of respect many in this community lack towards men and men embracing manhood.
Im tellin yall most of these dudes talkin bout that the Black woman is GOD will cuss out a sista and call her a bitch in second!
For example: Natural Tahuti snapped the fuck out on the Sister Aisha Sekhmet, that dude Blue Pill is known for sleeping around with different women in the conscious community,and hell Seti went postal on that sista Phu'Cha from Memphis when he found she and her husband Powwah used to fuck with Ray Hagins!
Now don't get me wrong Im not dissin these brothas but Im just sayin ladies beware of these brothas! Alot of them tryna get in yo panties off this conscious shit!
But my thing is this........How the fuck is this shit that these niggaz is pushin gon liberate us?!
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Our success educationally, industrially and politically is based upon the protection of a nation founded by ourselves. And the nation can be nowhere else but in Africa.
We were the first Fascists, when we had 100,000 disciplined men, and were training children, Mussolini was still an unknown. Mussolini copied our Fascism.
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