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    View Poll Results: Throughout Our 400 Year Struggle In America, Have Coalitions Helped Us Significantly?

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    • Yes, Blacks Should Continue To Try And Build Coalitions

      7 15.56%
    • Yes, Although Coalitions Have Fallen Apart We Should Still Try And Build Them

      3 6.67%
    • Yes, We Should Continue To Build Coalitions Because We Don't Have A Choice

      1 2.22%
    • No, Blacks Should Think Coalition Building Only If It Totally Benefits Us

      8 17.78%
    • No, Blacks Should Not Think About Coalitions Until We Get Our Own Shit Together

      24 53.33%
    • No, We Have Never Gotten Anywhere From Pseudo Coalitions

      5 11.11%
    • No, We Have Been Used And Played By Being In Coalitions

      10 22.22%
    • No, We Should Never Build Coalitions Or Alliances With Anybody

      4 8.89%
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      Okay I've been keeping up with this post and I saw one scenario as far as mexicans and Afrikans joining forces for a certain cause.... my thing is why does it have to be a joint venture? I'm down with them being there and us being there at the same time but i don't think we need to communicate with them because when and if heads start getting busted I don't believe they'll ride out for US , they'll protect their people before they protect and defend us so i say we can stand on the same side of the street but as far as combining, let them do they thang and we'll do ours . Black folk can have as much solidarity within our own people without including everyone under the sun.

      I have another scenario:
      The KKK wants to hold a rally in your town and you wanna protest/march against them for morals reasons such as they have a known history of lynching, raping, hating your people, there are whites in the town as well who want to march with you mainly because the rally would be bad for their businesses/ give their town a bad reputation or whatever else goes on in the crackas thought process.... so the question is, even though Blacks and whites are marching/protesting against the same people, but for different reasons would you still form a coalition/alliance with them? whites marching for business reasons and blacks marching/ rally for moral reasons is it the same cause to ya'll ?
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      Quote Originally Posted by BlackIsPower
      Okay I've been keeping up with this post and I saw one scenario as far as mexicans and Afrikans joining forces for a certain cause.... my thing is why does it have to be a joint venture? I'm down with them being there and us being there at the same time but i don't think we need to communicate with them because when and if heads start getting busted I don't believe they'll ride out for US , they'll protect their people before they protect and defend us so i say we can stand on the same side of the street but as far as combining, let them do they thang and we'll do ours . Black folk can have as much solidarity within our own people without including everyone under the sun.

      I have another scenario:
      The KKK wants to hold a rally in your town and you wanna protest/march against them for morals reasons such as they have a known history of lynching, raping, hating your people, there are whites in the town as well who want to march with you mainly because the rally would be bad for their businesses/ give their town a bad reputation or whatever else goes on in the crackas thought process.... so the question is, even though Blacks and whites are marching/protesting against the same people, but for different reasons would you still form a coalition/alliance with them? whites marching for business reasons and blacks marching/ rally for moral reasons is it the same cause to ya'll ?
      Good scenario Warrior. When Coalitions are formed, there are clear Points of Unity that are agreed upon by all participating forces. Based on the scenario, there's no unity on our Interests, Goals and Objectives of the Protest, so no we could not unite. Trust me, once those Caucs heard our Position and how we move and how we chant, they would run across the street anyway...LOL

      This is how we raise our understanding. By discussing/doing practical situations. The Coalition piece is madness to a lot of us on here. But best believe, there is a 'method to the madness'.
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      KKK Rallies and Mexicans


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      Brother, I am not for any alliances with anybody. I ain't feeling no alliances or coalitions with mexicans or anybody else. We have been duped, bamboozled, and tricked by every alliance that we Blacks - Negroes - African americans have ever made. We have lost face and our people who would wholeheartedly join us, with no holds barred, will continue to stand on the sidelines as long as they see us aligning with "others" aka SELLING OUT! Many may not believe me, because they do not know the true mentality of our people, but you will enlist more of us when you have an all Black thang. The "science" tells you this. The Blacker The Berry, The Sweeter The Juice. Just tell me why would you go get an old sour azz apple to mix with that when we all know this to be true. Aren't Black Cherries sweeter than the lighter ones? Strawberries? Blackberries? Rasberries? You can catch more bees with honey than you can with shit. Many many many of us are not feeling this coalition bs. We've learned our lessons by watching the elders make mistakes. The white liberals are nothing more than poverty pimps. That's who the Black Poverty Pimps learned their trade from - the white liberals! white liberals have elevated pimping Black folks to an art form. The are usually, moreso than not, in charge of social programs that are in the 'hood. As long as you do not make serious inroads to try and really educate your children then they "cool" with you. The don't feel "threatened!"


      Although largely symbolic, Huey "volunteered" troops to North Vietnam during the war. Your high liberal-heiress, jane fonda, also went and stood with the N Vietnamese, against amerikkka during the war. Today, 2005, she retracts her actions, expressing remorse and guilt, and says that she wishes she had never stood with the N Vietnamese, and that it was one of the most stupidest things she had ever done. This what coalescing with white liberals will get you. They are always comfortable with us as long as they are in leadership positions over us and make more money than us and we are having to brown nose and kowtow to them for some type of funding, this includes hunger centers and homeless shelters. White liberals are the worst offenders and coniving of all racists. Having them around is akin to having a poisonous snake in your bed under the guise of the pet dog or cat. I don't like dogs or cats in my bed therefore I will never knowingly be accosted by a sneaky white liberal poisonous snake. I would rather fight and suffer substantial casualties than to have an alliance with anybody. I am willing to fight to the death for that which I know to be true, but I will never stand with anyone who aligns with the white liberal, or hispanics or mexicans or a-rab, or any other "minority." Using them for services maybe, but it will never be an alliance with any of them for me.
      "Life is about Death - It is a fight for survival to the very end. ." Sadiku

      "Who wants equality with murderers, thieves, rapists, cheaters, liars,
      grave robbers, baby killers, baby stealers, savages, brutes and beasts?
      Who wants equality with the devil himself?" - Sadiku

      "Who wants to integrate [into] a burning house?" - James Baldwin

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      justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." - Malcolm X

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      You right about white liberals, ie white left. They seek to energize their orgs off our struggle. They're oppurtunists, no doubt.

      Any Coalition that we have gotten involved in has been under Our Leadership. True, Our People made many mistakes in the past. I don't think Coalitions was the mistake, I think the mistake was how we did it.

      Bro, I struggle with the Cauc presence in the Movement as well. I don't disagree with PRINCIPLED Coalitions, but I know Cauc visibility in the Movement does turn People off. I joined this Org because its solving Our Peoples problems. But if there are things that one does not like, then the best way to change them is from within. But I'm not going to NOT attend an event or show my support of something that is highly critical for our People because of a Non-African presence.
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      How can WE form alliances/coalitions within OUR group, Afrikans, if WE continue to write certain of them off?

      That is, WE write them off as "sell-outs", "uncle toms" etc..dis-miss what they bring to the table.

      It seems to me, WE might want to focus OUR efforts at waking them up, agitating them, educating them....especially since many of them have the ear of "the masses". While it is WORK, I be~lieve it is the work of therapy...which is communication. DO what ever is neccesary to re~move the barriers which separate US.

      any thoughts on this??

      akpe for allowing me to share

      In Love of Afrikans home and abroad

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      Bumping cause I'm still curious about this.

      Any thoughts, comments, suggestions.....anything???

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      Greetings Everyone!

      I firmly believe we have to get our foundation and self determination
      in order before we can build with anyone else.

      Right now in this day and age we cannot help ourselves the way we
      should. We cannot organize ourselves the way we should, and we
      don't have unity amongst ourselves the way we should.

      Since we cannot take care of ourselves, we definitely cannot help
      anyone else. It's that need to belong to anything and everything,
      even when it has nothing to do with us as a people.

      we are afraid to stand on own own, so we take subtle comfort in
      joining others, and being a part of their efforts, rather than build
      our own.

      We insist on running elsewhere when we have our own work to do
      in our own yard. We are afraid and refuse to admit it. What we
      fail to realize is that if we don't start nation building now, then as
      we see now, time still goes on, and the plight of our people will
      always be dependent on our oppressor. we know that we are
      oppressed, when will we make a concious effort to do something
      about it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jahness
      Greetings Everyone!

      I firmly believe we have to get our foundation and self determination
      in order before we can build with anyone else.

      Right now in this day and age we cannot help ourselves the way we
      should. We cannot organize ourselves the way we should, and we
      don't have unity amongst ourselves the way we should.

      Since we cannot take care of ourselves, we definitely cannot help
      anyone else. It's that need to belong to anything and everything,
      even when it has nothing to do with us as a people.

      we are afraid to stand on own own, so we take subtle comfort in
      joining others, and being a part of their efforts, rather than build
      our own.

      We insist on running elsewhere when we have our own work to do
      in our own yard. We are afraid and refuse to admit it. What we
      fail to realize is that if we don't start nation building now, then as
      we see now, time still goes on, and the plight of our people will
      always be dependent on our oppressor. we know that we are
      oppressed, when will we make a concious effort to do something
      about it.

      Peace & Blessings to all.
      i unite with this...i am not for allying with Anyone so long as WE ain't even united with Ourselves...what would WE have to offer? i am reminded of a few Akan proverbs:

      Kwaterekwaa se obema wo ntoma a, tie ne din ~ if "nakedman" says he will give you a cloth, listen to his name...

      Wokosre obi ntwoma a, hwe ne bamma ho ~ if you are going to ask somebody for red clay to fix the side of your house, look at his own wall.

      Ansa na wobesiesie obi ban no, hwe wo dee so ~ before going to mend another person's fence look at your own...

      hmmm...and a related Kikongo one:

      Ku kânda dia mbadio mpaka (ntantani) ze' ko; nga ziswèmi mu dia diâku zazèyi?

      There are lots of conflicts within "So-and-so's" community; do you realize how many there are within yours?

      while WE be going out to fix everyone else's problems WE neglect Our own...oh well...perhaps at some point in time WE will learn wisdom b-4 someone learns US some wisdom:

      Abi-iko, Ako-igbo, ita l'o ti n kogbon wale.

      A child who WE give birth to who doesn't learn/isn't taught or a child who is taught and doesn't listen, it is in the streets that he or she learns the lesson. [Yoruba]...

      Stay BlackNificent y'all...

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      "ALLIANCES WITH WHITES

      We are opposed to unprincipled class collaboration in our struggle for liberation, for unprincipled class collaboration can only weaken and dilute our struggle. On the other hand, we uphold the principle of unity based on struggle around issues that relate to our peoples revolutionary development. The principle of unity on struggle does not remove our right to principled criticism of reactionary ideas and struggle with incorrect views.

      The question of Black White alliances is both a tactical and strategic question of policy, that can only be answered by given objective conditions and not by emotional reflex. Many brothers and sisters think that under no circumstances should we as Black people enter into alliances with whites. These comrades consistently confuse alliance with bourgeois integration, or they maintain that all whites are our enemy, and therefore to have any alliance with whites can only lead to co-optation of our forces. Still other arguments maintain that in Black White alliances we will be "fronted off" and for whites' own benefit. Some argue these views ideologically, in that they believe that a method) ideological system, if invented by whites cannot be adapted to, modified and developed to serve Black folks. It is a good thing Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Amilcar Cabral, Kim II Sung and a host of other revolutionaries who led successful struggles did not think with such blinders.

      The root cause of such incorrect views of alliances with whites is "fear" and lack of confidence in the forces that we ourselves build, we as a people are not at all used to dealing with white folks from a position of power and we fear that we will be manipulated against our will. Another contributing factor in creating our narrow perspectives is the fact that because we lack a clear understanding of class struggle we are unable to see the real differences that exist among whites themselves, and are unable to exploit these differences for our own struggle. Nothing is absolute, including white folks and their alleged unity. To persist in the incorrect view that whites are all embracing in their unity among other whites is a stupid and childish myth that we have as a people. It is a confusion an oppressed people make when confronted with a seemingly all powerful system of oppression, we have confused the appearance of the system with its substance. In capitalist society class struggle, inter group antagonism, ethnocentric divisions, are all at the basis of such a system. Competition is the order of the day, and class unity, group unity, are all transitory, subject to change at any given moment. The historical fact that out of such conflict racism has evolved as culturally typical of all white society should not obscure the real differences among whites based on economic, social, and political position, we combat racism with revolutionary nationalism and a Black revolutionary united front, not with reactionary nationalism and racism. We combat economic exploitation with revolutionary class struggle waged against the capitalist class and their flunkies. These are the methods the movement should employ, revolutionary nationalism secures in our own hands our movement for self determination, and thus combats the historical dynamic of white racism, while revolutionary class struggle allows us to defeat our class oppressor and enter into alliance beneficial to us.

      Revolutionary struggle is a process, and like all things, goes through stage of
      development, setbacks, and periods of dormancy, at one point uniting seemingly contradictory elements, and at another eliminating these elements. The principles of united fronts, principled alliances, are basic recognition of this dialectical process of social change. Alliances based on revolutionary class consciousness and around our national interests as a people can never be "integration." Integration is a class collaboration of an unprincipled and reactionary nature, for it is based on the revolutionary considerations of our struggle must be principled ones, its principle characteristic being our own working class interests as a people.

      Does this mean Black White worker solidarity at any coast? Black White worker solidarity cannot be attained at any cost, but at a particular cost. We do not agree with white leftist revisionists the Black and white workers share the same interests because they are both workers. While this may be true on a tactical level (specific struggles around certain issues), it is not true on a strategic level. Strategically speaking (long range) the Black workers ultimate goal is the same as the masses of Blacks, which is toward national self determination as a people, the creation of a socialist state, or Black nation places different requirements on Black worker our move is for autonomy our working class must not exist for any other state but our own. Whereas the white worker has an historical obligation to create his own socialist relationships.
      The cultural, and social dynamics of racism mandates this distinction if we are not to fail victim to poorlessness in the future when capitalist relations are abolished. National self determination is therefore a necessary stage for both Blacks and whites in creating new human beings able to relate to each other. Thus Black worker white worker solidarity can only be a tactical policy not a complete strategy having as its end one socialist entity as the revisionists would have us believe. Recognition of our right to national self determination is not compromised when we clearly understand our tasks as a movement. Both the establishment of a Black revolutionary Nation based on socialist relations, and overthrowing the present capitalist system and establishment of predominantly white workers state, are complementary struggles, and as such there will be tactical unity around issues that affect both Black and white workers. This is not integration.

      On the armed front, solidarity is based upon revolutionary action. We recognize the legitimacy of all revolutionary violence against the capitalist corporate state, its ruling classes, and its institutions. Militarily speaking, clandestine alliances between different revolutionary armed formations is a matter of coordinating command first. Until such time as the armed front develops its logistical machinery in depth, such coordination of command is unlikely. But for the Black liberation movement, its armed front, and its entire clandestine network, there is no hang-up concerning ideological, or military control of our struggle by whites. Organized armed struggle has freed us of this fear so typical on the mass front. Our formations are Black led controlled and organized to win our fight for liberation.

      The Black liberation movement must be a principled and revolutionary movement, or it will be unable to lead our struggle for freedom forward to final victory. The question of Black White alliance is not a question of should we form such alliances, but a question of when and with whom. To consider an tactical alliances that are in our own best interests, and that strengthen our struggles position as "integrationist," is therefore an incorrect view to ally oneself with something is not to necessarily bring that thing into your ranks and give it control over your political policy. We refute all ideas that confuse principle revolutionary unity with unprincipled class collaboration.

      In closing, it is clear that there is still much to be learned, and our movement will surely encounter difficulties and setbacks in the coming years. We must prepare ourselves, our people, and our ideas for the long and difficult road ahead. Our preparation must be thorough and complete, for our very existence will depend on how well we prepare on all fronts of the struggle. We are in the turbulent years, the hard years. Black people and oppressed people throughout the world are entering the season of struggle.

      THE SOONER BEGUN, THE SOONER DONE! The Black Liberation Army"

      --Exeprt from "Message To The Black Liberation Movement" from the Coordinating Committee of the Black Liberation Army
      (ORIGINALLY RELEASED 1976/1977)

      COMPLETE text located here:

      http://www.assatashakur.org/forums/u...read.php?t=866

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      humble thanks to okulaja,rebel afrika,sis jahness,sis rebel queen,sis recovering AA,all the family,assante sane everybody, i am against unity with whites as well,because as i have seen here in kanada,they go to the school of social studies and then write in the history of peoples struggles and they benefit from our struggles, by becoming scholars and etc, like howward zin says,it is people that makes the history,not scholars or etc, the common struggles of people makes their own history, having said, i think we as afrikan peoples,we should build coalition with other people of color,the AIM, also had its problems with its sell outs and sell outs are in every people of color,for money and power,just look at the history of the motherland,what pissed me off the most was that cheif butalese( did i spell it right) was in all zulu dress dancing and chating,he was agaisnt mandela,during the campaign in south afrika,the thing is,united snakkes will put money in the hands of people that they considered will sell out,even our own,come on maulana karenga mumia states clearly,the role of him and his movement on the book" we want freedom" and the guy that was studying to becomea lawyer,afterwards worked for the fascist bureau of intimidation= fbi read wardchurchill,FBI WAR AGAINST THE BLACK PANTHER AND THE AMERIKAN INDIAN MOVEMENT,Okulaja,i ma having the greatest difficulties time here man,trying to explain afrikans about our newspaper,they tell me( all those that calls demselves conscious) that the uhuru is likea big organization and they dont want to answer toa big organization,these are the" rastafarians" man,if you know where i am coming from,you know what i mean! SADIKU, i hear ya, how come people,in chi town, things only happen in the south side,brother kwaku is tiredless fighter and warrior,father of seven,for the longest time( we talk a lots) has been trying to organize his side of town,where there is also lots of afrikans as well,he told no ones cares,only the south side is where things happens,what are youer thoughts on that, my peoples? akpe,assante sane, allowing me to share,in the spirit of sharing! omowale,for the love of my peoples

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      Will WE ever learn from history?


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      Please find the highlighted paragraph. This topic reminds me of Gil Scott Heron's description of those who try to befriend the krakkkaz, the "four year revolutionary with a hole card, i.e. skin." A problem occurs when WE as Afrikan people derive Our ideology from Our eternal enemies b/c that ideology will tell US to work with Our eternal enemies. Check out what happened to Our principled coalitions. It's too late for the BLA to learn from it's mistakes but it's not to late for US if WE choose to listen to history. If WE choose to listen to truth. Who ignores history? Who ignores truth? Let that person find what he or she will find at the end of his or her path.

      "To be ignorant of history is to be ignorant of what you are trying to do now. History will show you where we have been, how we arrived where we are, whether we have traveled the best routes, and it will indicate -- if we pause to reflect long enough -- the best route to travel on from this point in time."

      Chancellor Williams

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      Originally posted by XXPANTHAXX: 09-09-2004


      A BLAST FROM THE PAST: Revolutionary Archives From the Black Liberation Army
      ORIGINALLY WRITTEN ON SEPTEMBER 18, 1979



      "... Hide nothing from the masses of our people. Tell no lies. Expose lies whenever they are told. Mask no difficulties, mistakes, failures. Claim no easy victories ..." PAIGC-1965

      The history of our national liberation struggle is one of the most important factors upon which the political party(s), the oppressed masses, and the liberation armed forces may understand the nature of their oppression and the task before them towards independence and freedom.

      In this article, I would like to present to the masses the general history of the evolvement of the Black Liberation Army. This will be a brief historical overview not providing specific historical data in order to protect people who are either functioning in the BLA, or in other areas no longer associated with the BLA. The Black Liberation Army is a politico military organization, whose primary objective is to fight for the independence and self- determination of Afrikan people in the United States. The political determination of the BLA evolved out of the now defunct Black Panther Party.

      It was in October, 1966, with the advent of the Black Panther Party for Self Defense, that the question of armed struggle band resistance to racist oppression emerge as a plausible strategical maneuver in the developing liberation movement. It was in late 1968, early 1969, that the forming of a Black underground first began. From Los Angeles, California, to Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama, armed units were formed in rural areas, trained and caches were established. In Oakland, San Francisco, Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Ohio, and New York, Black Panther Party offices were established to formulate a political relationship with the oppressed Black masses in these and other communities across the country.

      From 1969 to 1972, the BPP came under vicious attack by the State and Federal government. The government employed COINTELPRO (FBI, CIA and local police departments) as the means to destroy the above-ground political apparatus that fielded the Black underground. But it wasn't until 1970 that the BPP began its purge of many of its most trusted and militant members, many of which eventually joined the Black underground.

      By 1971, contradictions perpetuated by COINTELPRO forces in the leadership of the BPP caused the split between Newton and Cleaver, which eventually split the entire Black Panther Party into two major factions. It was this BPP split and factionalism that determined the fielding of the Black underground would begin to serve its primary purpose (along with conditions presented by the State armed offensive to liquidate the Party). his is not to say that armed action against the State did not occur by the Black underground prior to the split, on the contrary, by 1971, the Black underground was becoming rich in experience in the tactics of armed expropriations, sabotage, and ambush assaults. It needs to be said that prior to the split, the Black underground was the official armed wing of the aboveground political apparatus, and thereby had to maintain restraint in its military activity. This was very well for the Black underground but although in many areas experienced in tactical military guerilla warfare, it was still infantile politically, and although becoming organizationally wielded as a fighting apparatus, it did not establish an infra-structure completely autonomous from the aboveground BPP cadres and Party chapters. This in turn became one of the major detriments of the Black underground after the split of the Black Panther Party.


      Based upon the split and factionalism in the BPP, and heightened repression by the State, the Black underground was ordered to begin establishing the capacity to take the "defensive- offensive" in developing urban guerilla warfare. Hence, in 1971, the name BLACK LIBERATION ARMY (of Afro American Liberation Army) surfaced as the nucleus of Black guerilla fighters across the United States. This is not to say that the name Black Liberation Army was first used in 1971, for in late 1968, during a student strike and demonstration in Mexico City, many students and demonstrators were killed by Mexican police. One of those students was reported to have had a piece of paper in his pocket upon which was written the name Black Liberation Army. Whether or not there was a connection to the fielding of the Black underground with the uprising in Mexico in 1968 is unknown.

      Since the split in the BPP and the call of the "defensive- offensive" commenced, the Black underground which in May of 1971 bore the name Black Liberation Army, had committed many armed attacks against the State as part of the BPP (and after the split) many of which are unrecorded. Here I would like to present the Justice Department-LEAA Task Force report on BLA activity (it should be noted these reports were recorded by the State according to when they captured, killed, or in some ways received information concerning BLA activity, and therefore one sided and by no means indicated all BLA activity in the last ten years).


      Listing of Justice Department Report on
      BLA Activity from January, 1970 - January, 1976
      1970:
      October 22. San Francisco, Calif. - An antipersonnel time bomb explodes outside a
      church, showering steel shrapnel on mourners of a patrolman slain in a bank holdup; no
      one is injured. The BLA is suspected.

      1971:
      January 13. Hunters Point, Calif. - A police officer is shot by BLA member.

      January 19. San Francisco, Calif. - Two police officers are wounded by BLA members.

      March 30. San Francisco, Calif. - There is a BLA attempt to bomb a police station.

      April 19. New York City - Two black men lure patrolman Curry and Binetti by driving
      the wrong way and ignoring a traffic light; when apprehended the driver drops down and
      the passenger fires a machine gun at the doors and windows of the patrol car; the Black
      Liberation Army is suspected.

      May 19. Harlem, New York City - Patrolman Piagentini and Waverly Jones are killed in
      an ambush by alleged members of the BLA.

      June 5. New York City - Four men associated with the Black Liberation Army attempted
      to hold-up a night club called the Triple O. One cab driver is killed.

      June 18. New York City - BLA members rob a bank for funds.

      August - Twenty BLA members leave New York City and rent a farmhouse in
      Fayetteville, GA., where they conduct a guerilla warfare school for one month, during
      which they hold-up a bank and kill an Atlanta policeman.

      August 23. Queens, New York - The Bankers Trust Company is robbed; Black
      Liberation Army members are identified as participants.

      August 28. San Francisco, Calif. - Two BLA members attempt to machine gun a San
      Francisco police department patrol car, after an exchange of gun fire, they are
      apprehended. The service revolver of a slain New York City patrolman, Waverly Jones,
      is found in their possession.

      August 29. San Francisco, Calif. - A police sergeant is killed at his desk when two black
      men fire repeated blasts into the Ingelside police station; the BLA is suspected.

      October 7. Atlanta, GA - The Peters Street branch of Fulton National Bank is robbed,
      reportedly by the Black Liberation Army.

      November 3. Atlanta, GA - Officer James Richard Greene is shot in a paddy wagon; the
      scene of the shooting is 3 miles from a residence used by the Black Liberation Army, this
      organization believed responsible for the shooting.

      December 12. Atlanta, GA - Three reported Black Liberation Army members and two
      other prisoners escape from the DeKalb County jail.

      December 21. Atlanta, GA - New York City - Two police notice suspicious car near
      Bankers Trust Company in Queens; when they approach the car, it speeds away, after
      individuals in the car roll a grenade towards the police car; the grenade explodes, causing
      considerable damage towards the police car, and injuring the policemen; two suspects are
      identified as Black Liberation Army members.

      December 31. Brooklyn, NY - BLA members engage in a shoot- out with a rival group in
      the offices of Youth in Action.

      December 31. Odessa, Fla. - BLA member is killed in a shoot out with FBI.

      1972:

      January 12. Houston, Texas - Members of the BLA are charged June 6 for shooting and wounding of
      the off duty Housing Police detectives.

      January 19. Philadelphia, PA. - Two BLA members are arrested with two suitcases containing guns.

      January 27. New York City - In the morning two patrolmen notice a car going through two red lights;
      when they approach to ask for a driver's license, the driver starts shooting; one patrolman is seriously
      wounded ... In the evening, two policemen, Gregory Foster and Rocco Laurie, shot in the back by at
      least three persons; four suspects in the case are members of the Black Liberation Army; one suspect
      is later killed in a street battle with St. Louis police; the recovered pistol matches Laurie's.

      February 16. St. Louis, Mo. - A Black Liberation Army member, tied to shooting of Foster and Laurie,
      is killed in a gun battle with police; two others are arrested.

      May 10. Columbia, S.C. - Four BLA members arrested with guns.

      August 8. Newark, NJ - BLA member who escaped after shooting sergeant and patrolmen on April
      19, 1971, is captured.

      September 9. Brooklyn, NY - Three BLA members, including one who escaped from DeKalb County,
      Ga. jail are arrested.

      October 7. Los Angeles, Calif. - Police car bombing claimed by Afro American Liberation Army.

      December 28. Brooklyn, NY - An owner of a bar is kidnapped by the BLA and held for $20,000
      ransom.

      1973:

      January 2. Brooklyn, NY - During the robbery of a social club, BLA members shoot and kill a victim.

      January 10. Brooklyn, NY - After being confronted on a subway station by a patrolman, a BLA
      member fires a shot and escapes into the tunnel.

      January 12. Brooklyn, NY - Two Housing detectives are shot in front of a bar after stopping two BLA
      members.

      January 23. Brooklyn, NY - Two wanted BLA members are shot and killed by members of New York
      City police department after they are trapped in a bar. Two detectives are wounded.

      January 25. Brooklyn, NY - Two patrolmen brothers assigned to same car are machine gunned by the
      BLA.

      January 28. Queens, NY - Two patrolmen on patrol are machine gunned by BLA members, who
      escape.

      February 9. Bronx, NY - Members of the Black Liberation Army robbed a bank.

      February 23. Brooklyn, NY - Two BLA members are arrested with a carload of explosives.

      March 2. Brooklyn, NY - A group of BLA members, stopped by officers looking for a robbery
      suspect, engage the officers in a gun battle.

      March 6. Bronx, NY - Three BLA members are recognized by two detectives, and engage them in a
      gun battle. BLA members are joined by two more and escape by stealing a car and machine gunning a
      police radio car.

      March 27. Brooklyn, NY - BLA members rob a supermarket.

      April 10. Queens, NY - BLA members rob a bank.

      April 12. Brooklyn, NY - Two telephone company men are held at gunpoint by the BLA when they are
      suspected of being police. They are told that they would be killed if they have guns, radio or shields.

      May 2. New Jersey Turnpike - Members of the BLA are arrested after a shoot out; one State
      patrolman is killed, one is wounded; one BLA member dies, the driver; one escapes, but is
      subsequently captured in East Brunswick, NJ.

      May 19. Mount Vernon, NY - Two policemen are shot when they stop three BLA members pulling a
      stick-up.

      June 5. New York City - A transit detective is killed when he stops two BLA members from entering
      without paying. Before he died he shot both of them; one is captured, and the other escapes.

      June 7. Brooklyn, NY - A BLA member is captured by New York City police and FBI.

      June 8. Brooklyn, NY - Two other BLA members are captured.

      July 18. Bronx, NY - BLA members rob a bank.

      September 2. New Orleans, La. - Members of New York City police department, New Orleans police
      department and FBI capture a BLA member.

      September 27. New York City - BLA member is charged with the murder of Patrolman Foster and
      Laurie; he escapes from King's County Hospital, but is captured on October 3.

      November 7. New York City - BLA member is arrested as he attempts to turn himself in for being
      absent leave from the Army.

      November 14. Bronx, NY - Members of the Black Liberation Army are slain after three years of
      pursuit by police; this member is the seventh BLA member to die in police shoot out, 18 others have
      been arrested.

      December 27. New York City - Three BLA sympathizers are caught attempting to free BLA
      members from the Tombs when police see one of them emerging from a sewer manhole two blocks
      away, outside the corrections department design and engineering unit that house blueprints.

      1974:

      April 17. New York City - The Tombs, four BLA sympathizers, armed with two hand-guns and
      acetylene torch attempt to free three BLA members; they flee when the torch runs out of fuel.

      May 3. New York City - After failing to release prisoners at the Tombs, BLA members flee to New
      Haven, Connecticut where they rob a bank and shoot a policeman. Three are captured, others escape.

      June 2. New York City - BLA members attempt to shoot two policemen on the Delaware Bridge, and
      are arrested; they have a large supply of guns.

      August 5. Brooklyn, NY - A female is arrested after attempting to smuggle hacksaw blades to BLA
      prisoners.

      August 15. Brooklyn, NY - One BLA member escapes, one is shot, and a third gives up after an
      escape attempt. The escapee is captured a few blocks away.

      October 20. Connecticut State Prison - A white female is arrested trying to smuggle a gun to BLA
      prisoners.

      1975:

      February 17. Rikers Island, NY - BLA members subdued by guards after getting the keys (with a
      wooden knife as a weapon) from a guard; police receive a telephone call soon after the incident saying
      that five men armed with shotguns, one in wet suit, are setting off in three rafts; one raft is found with a
      map, a set of oars, swim fins, (3) three .38 caliber bullets, and 9 mm bullets.

      May 25. Brooklyn, NY - A Black Liberation Army member falls to his death in an escape attempt; a
      second member is recaptured near the prison; two other BLA members return to their cells after the
      one fell.

      1976:

      January 19. Trenton, NJ - At Trenton State Prison, there is an 11- hour shooting rampage; an inmate
      was killed in the opening exchange of gunfire, was one inmate who began the incident by shooting a
      guard in an escape attempt; another inmate who instigated the incident, was convicted of murdering a
      State Trooper in a shoot out between BLA members and police on the New Jersey Turnpike; inmates
      threw a homemade grenade at police and guards as they rescued a wounded guard.



      The names of Comrades mentioned in these police reports have been omitted, as some are no longer functioning in the same capacity, imprisoned or dead. It is our policy not to reveal the names of Comrades who have acted within our organizational underground formations.

      The defensive offensive launched in 1970-71 politico- military initiatives was based upon the degree of repression suffered in the Black community due to COINTELPRO police attacks. The politico military policy at that time was to establish a defensive (self defense) front that would offensively protect the interest of the above-ground political apparatus aspiration to develop a mass movement towards national liberation. Again, it must be stated that in the early seventies, the Black underground was the armed wing of the above-ground BPP, which because of the split and factionalism prevented adequate logistics, and communications between cadre(s) and focus in the Black underground in various parts of the country. It was this situation which caused the greatest problem to the advent of the Black Liberation Army, upon which the commencement of armed struggle could be said to be premature. Premature in the sense that subjectively, our capacity to wage a sustained protracted national liberation war was not possible. This was due to the split in the above-ground political apparatus, the Black underground still depending on the above-ground for logistics and communications; the Black underground comprising of militants who had not grown to political maturity, and without a politico military structure and strategy to merge the Black underground into a national formation employing both stable and mobile urban and rural guerilla warfare, in conjunction with the rising militancy of the oppressed masses. In the same regards, the objective reality for armed struggle was present, that being a historical transition evolving from the civil rights movement, the riotous 1960s, the creation of the BPP chapters in Black communities across the country of which fought bravely against police attacks, the mass mobilization in support of the Vietnamese national liberation war, etc. Hence, the commencement of armed struggle by our forces was according to the development of history.

      By late 1971, it was ordered for the black underground to enter a strategic retreat, to reorganize itself and build a national structure, but the call for the strategic retreat for many cadres was too late. Many of the most mature militants were already deeply underground, separated from those functioning with the logistics provided by BPP chapters who in the split served to support armed struggle. The repression of the State continued to mount, especially now that the Black underground was hampered by internal strife with the loss of the above-ground political support apparatus (with virtually no support coming from existing Black community groups and organizations). It should be stated, a major contradiction was developing between the Black underground and those Euro-American forces who were employing armed tactics in support of Vietnamese liberation struggle. By 1973-75, this contradiction became full blown, whereby, specific Euro-American revolutionary armed forces refused to give meaningful material and political support to the Black Liberation Movement, more specifically, to the Black Liberation Army. Thereby, in 1974, the Black Liberation Army was without an above-ground political support apparatus; logistically and structurally scattered across the country without the means to unite its combat units; abandoned by Euro-American revolutionary armed forces; and being relentlessly pursued by the State reactionary forces - COINTELPRO (FBI, CIA and local police department). As a result, it was only a matter of time before the Black Liberation Army would be virtually decimated as a fighting clandestine organization


      By 1974-75, the fighting capacity of the Black Liberation Army had been destroyed, but the BLA as a politico military organization had not been destroyed. Since those imprisoned continued escape attempts and fought political trials, which forged ideological and political theory concerning the building of the Black Liberation Movement and revolutionary armed struggle. The trials of Black Liberation Army members sought to place the State on trial, to condemn the oppressive conditions from which Black people had to eke out an existence in racist America. These trials went on for several years upon which the Courts and police used to embellish their position as being guardians of society. The State media publications projected the Black Liberation Army trials as justice being served to protect Black people from terrorism; to prevent these terrorists from starting racial strife between Black and white people; to protect the interest and lives of police who are responsible for the welfare of the oppressed communities, etc. The captured and confined BLA members were deemed a terrorist, a criminal, a racist, but never a revolutionary, never a humanitarian, never a political activist. But the undaunted revolutionary fervor of captured BLA members continued to serve the revolution even while imprisoned. By placing the State on trial the BLA was more able to expose the contradictions between the philosophy of the State to protect the rights of all people, and the actions of the State which are to only protect the rights of the capitalist class bourgeoisie. The BLA trials sought to undermine the State attempts to play-off the BLA as an insignificant group of crazies, and therefore the trials of BLA members became forums to politicize the masses of what the struggle and revolution is all about. The trials served to organize people to support those being persecuted and prosecuted by the State, as a means from which the oppressed masses would be able to protect themselves from future persecution. In this manner, the trials of the Black Liberation Army voiced the discontent, dissatisfaction, and disenfranchisement of Black people in racist America. By late 1975, the Black Liberation Army established a Coordinating Committee, which essentially comprised of imprisoned members and outside supporters gained during the years of political prosecution in the Courts. The first task of the Coordinating Committee was to distribute an ideological and political document depicting the theoretical foundations of the political determination of the Black Liberation Army. This document was entitled, "A MESSAGE TO THE BLACK MOVEMENT - A Political Statement from the Black Underground." The Message to the Black Movement, put forth several political premises from which the BLA should be noted as a revolutionary political military organization fighting for national liberation of Afrikan people in the United States.

      In late 1975 and 1976, the Coordinating Committee distributed the first BLA newsletter, an organizational publication for the purpose of forging ideological and political clarity and unity between BLA members captured and confined in various parts of the country. The BLA newsletter begun to serve as a means from which BLA members would voice their political understanding of the national liberation struggle, and in this way, for the entire organized body to share in ideas and strengthen our collective political determination as a fighting force. Over the years, the newsletter have served to help develop cadres inside and outside of prisons, and broaden the capacity from which the BLA could continue to serve the national liberation struggle. Also, in 1976, members of the Black Liberation Army launched a national campaign to petition the United Nations concerning the plight of political prisoners of war, and conditions of the U.S. penal system, in behalf of the prison movement. The U.N. Prisoners Petition Campaign, initiated and directed by members of the BLA, virtually revitalized the prison movement across the country, and forged impetus to the present Human Rights campaign to the United Nations. It was the U.N. Prisoners Petition Campaign that first called for an international investigation into the conditions of U.S. prisons, and called for the release of political prisoners of war to a on imperialist country that would accept them. (Consequently, this year another national campaign have been launched entitled - "National POW Amnesty Campaign"). Lastly, in 1976-77, the coordinating Committee distributed what had been termed a Study Guide to captured members of the BLA as a means to consolidate the ideological perspectives from which the BLA would provide political leadership to the national liberation struggle.


      Since 1974, to the present, the BLA have continuously provided ideological and political perspectives within the Black Liberation Movement, and in this way gave leadership to the movement. Although, the Black Liberation Army is still lacking in principle support by progressive forces throughout the country. The primary aspect of lack of support is the fact the BLA still calls for the need of armed struggle, and the building of a revolutionary armed front. The Black Liberation Army is a politico military organization, which in the last five years have served to develop the political mass movement to merge with the political determination of the Black underground. The merger is based upon the development of a national politico-military strategy in unity with the aspirations and strategic initiatives of the various progressive political organizations throughout the country. Consistently, the Black Liberation Army has called for the development of the Black Liberation Front or Black United Front, a united front of Black revolutionary nationalists, establishing the political determination of the class and national liberation struggle towards independence, and for the freeing of the land. At this stage in struggle, there are several areas of progress being formulated that may serve to strengthen, consolidate, and mobilize the national liberation struggle under the aspirations of the oppressed Black masses. The building of the Afrikan National Prisoners Organization is a positive step on which various progressive Black forces can develop principled working relationships, alliances, and coalitions, and further build towards the Black Liberation Front. In the same regards, the development of the National Black Human Rights Coalition, provides a means from which a greater number of Black organizations and groups representing oppressed Black masses can be educated, organized, and mobilize to confront racist, capitalist imperialism, in conjunction to the heightened struggles in Namibia and Azania, and human rights violations here in North America. But it is imperative that these new formations develop a struggle line that supports the need for armed struggle to be waged in the United States, and therefore support of the oldest revolutionary armed force in North America - The Black Liberation Army.

      It is practically 1980, and the Black Liberation Army (the Black underground) have been in existence for over ten years. The last ten years have been hard years of struggle, we have lost many Comrades, we have made many mistakes, but we have never lied nor compromised our principles in struggle. The growth and development of the BLA depends on the growth and development of the entire class and national liberation struggle. The means from which the BLA can build revolutionary armed struggle is based upon the willingness of the oppressed masses to support the BLA, to call for the BLA to act, to build areas of support in the work place, in the home, and the social places of entertainment, but most of all amongst the political organizations and groups that the oppressed masses are affiliated with. It is essential and necessary that the general mass and popular movement understand the need for revolutionary armed struggle/forces to exist, and that the existence of the Black Liberation Army is the criteria from which the class and national liberation struggle will be preserved, as the socio-economic conditions of U.S. monopoly capitalism worsens, and as racist repression intensifies. As mentioned earlier, another national political campaign has been launched, this new campaign calls for the release and/or exchange of captured members of the Black underground and other revolutionary forces across the country. But it must be understood the principal objective of this campaign is to also build support of revolutionary armed struggle, employing international law and politics (specifically, Protocols of the Geneva Accords) concerning the existence of political prisoners of war in the United States. Thereby, supporting the release of political prisoners of war brings understanding to how these revolutionaries came to be imprisoned, and the need for them to be released, as well as, the need for revolutionary armed struggle. This is the challenge in uniting the mass and popular movement under the auspices of building the Black Liberation Front, can only be objectively realized by supporting the re-emergence of the Black underground, the Black Liberation Army.


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      Please find the highlighted paragraph. This topic reminds me of Gil Scott Heron's description of those who try to befriend the krakkkaz, the "four year revolutionary with a hole card, i.e. skin." A problem occurs when WE as Afrikan people derive Our ideology from Our eternal enemies b/c that ideology will tell US to work with Our eternal enemies. Check out what happened to Our principled coalitions. It's too late for the BLA to learn from it's mistakes but it's not to late for US if WE choose to listen to history.
      Man Akyeame...this would make alot of since...if the highlighted paragraph that you were referencing was in regards to the state of the BLA AFTER 1976/1977...and not BEFORE. But you get an "A" for effort.

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      Man Akyeame...this would make alot of since...if the highlighted paragraph that you were referencing was in regards to the state of the BLA AFTER 1976/1977...and not BEFORE. But you get an "A" for effort.
      ORIGINALLY WRITTEN ON SEPTEMBER 18, 1979 (this was a retrospective after it all went down and after the article that u posted was written...apparently that paragraph was thrown in there by someone who learned the lesson)

      p.s. in case u weren't aware the events mentioned in that paragraph have been happening since long b4 1976 and up to the present...and with some of the Afrikans like the one's WE got in Our race, it will be happening long into the future. stay BlackNificent! oh and i'll take my A for having the more recent article with an actual evaluation of the results of the ideologies presented in your article.

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      Yes...this article was written in 1979. And the paragraph you highlighted was addressing the 1971-1975 time frame.

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