We Need A New Culture

[Cherubim]

We need a new universal culture that Black people from all over the world can be apart of and identify with.

This new culture must be founded in knowledge, love, and material progress rather than family, spirituality, and tradition as has been the case in the past.

The very future and survival of our race depends on it.

[IfasehunReincarnated]

what of Pan-Afrikanism? Or afrocentricity? these ideologies fit the bill. as for culture, i dont think i personally would be willing to endorse a new culture. we have plenty of afrikan cultures that arent utilized as is...

[SpitfireLeo]

I'm on board with IfasehunReincarnated. Can't Pan-Afrikanism be universal for all Afrikans to identify with?

[Akyeame Kwame]

http://www.assatashakur.org/forums/u...ead.php?t=8036

[Afushe]

The other parasites in this mess was and still is THE Anglican and Catholic Churches the Anglican church branded it's slaves with the word SOCIETY meaning the Society for the Propagation of the Gospel!!!! I for one DO NOT patronize any of these murder of the mind and body houses! or their numerous spin offs

[Cherubim]

I'm pro Black but I'm not Pan-African for 2 major reasons.

First there is no such thing as a single African culture we can go by because Africa is made up of hundreds of different cultures some directly opposed to eachother.
Some African cultures are actually anti-Black!

Another reason is I simply don't think going back to cultures of past traditions and habits is the solution for out people today.

Why would I go back to practicing the same cultures and traditions that allowed me to be enslaved by the Persians, enslaved by the Arabs, and enslaved by the white Europeans in the first place?

I want to get as far away from that culture as possible and find another method and means of living.

If we want to change our condition and our future, we don't need to keep living in the past we need a NEW culture.






AFUSHE

If that article has nothing to do with my subject can you remove it by editing your post and posting something relevant to my subject?

[Akyeame Kwame]

The other parasites in this mess was and still is THE Anglican and Catholic Churches the Anglican church branded it's slaves with the word SOCIETY meaning the Society for the Propagation of the Gospel!!!! I for one DO NOT patronize any of these murder of the mind and body houses! or their numerous spin offs

Peace Afushe,

please check this thread to introduce yourself to the warriors...

http://www.assatashakur.org/forums/u...read.php?t=253

and this thread for posting guidelines...(i suggest this b/c while informative, WE strive to keep all posts relevant to the thread topic) there is always an option to start a new thread or to post in a related themed thread)

http://www.assatashakur.org/forums/u...ead.php?t=9610

WELCOME and stay BlackNificent!!!

AK

[Akyeame Kwame]

AFUSHE

If that article has nothing to do with my subject can you remove it by editing your post and posting something relevant to my subject?

it's not that your post isn't relative to YOUR subject, it's not (at least directly) relevant to the subject of this thread entitled WE NEED A NEW CULTURE.

i'm saying WE would welcome you to repost this in its own thread (i.e. starting this as a new topic rather than taking over an unrelated thread with an unrelated topic. Stay BlackNificent!

AK

[Empress_Dahiyya]

I'm pro Black but I'm not Pan-African for 2 major reasons.

First there is no such thing as a single African culture we can go by because Africa is made up of hundreds of different cultures some directly opposed to eachother.
Some African cultures are actually anti-Black!

Another reason is I simply don't think going back to cultures of past traditions and habits is the solution for out people today.

Why would I go back to practicing the same cultures and traditions that allowed me to be enslaved by the Persians, enslaved by the Arabs, and enslaved by the white Europeans in the first place?

I want to get as far away from that culture as possible and find another method and means of living.

If we want to change our condition and our future, we don't need to keep living in the past we need a NEW culture.

Blessings Cheribum:

I must say, whereas I love your initiative, I don’t agree with your solution. But I’m glad you made a suggestion towards a solution, so hopefully we can build upon it.

The reason I don’t agree is because we were never a people who separated things like the European. I don’t believe in becoming more like our Oppressor to combat our oppressor. It is because our Oppressor does not have a culture rooted in spiritual and metaphysical principles, family and tradition that they behave the way they do. I think perhaps its because we didn’t guard our culture and traditions that we were infiltrated and penetrated. Let’s take Ethiopia for example. They guard their culture religiously and one must show a love and humbleness towards it before they allow you in. It is this spirit that has kept Ethiopia unconquered and uncolonized.

I also agree with IfasehunReincarnated, we got plenty of cultures to repatriate to and regain our true selves. But as well, culture is suppose to evolve, so Cheribum, I think its time to take our cultures to another level which does include some of your suggestions and I do believe that it’s the Diaspora that will do that.

We have a strong culture in Rastafari. What is so beautiful to me is that Indeginous Africans on the continent are espousing Rastafari by the thousands, which they too recognize the African ancientcy of it and has sought it to be the vehicle to bring them forward to identifying with their culture with modern consciousness. His Majesty Haile Selassie taught:

“Much as man has progressed in the scientific and technological fields, he has not made a parallel endeavor to enrich himself spiritually. The materialism of today is overriding the spiritual values to the extent that today we observe a lot of unrest and social upheavals which have become common phenomena the world over. Unless humanity reverts to the time-honored values which have enabled past generations to overcome with courage the adversities they had encountered in their daily lives, we shall not only be failing ourselves but posterity as well. In order to advance in our respective undertakings, and set ourselves on the right path we have to learn and draw abundantly from the great spiritual heritage which our fathers and forefathers have bequeathed to us. This can give us strength and a sense of continuity which are essential for progress and development�.

Empress Dahiyya

[Akyeame Kwame]

re-posted elsewhere..thanks for the welcome

afushe

BlackSolutely BlackTified! Stay BlackNificent!

AK

[Cherubim]

Blessings EMPRESS

It's funny you mentioned Ethiopia because I think the major reason Ethiopia remained uncolonized is because it still contains the Ark of the Covenant as a living testament to it's past and the true Israelites.

I mentioned on another thread that the Israelites of Ethiopia would fare better to stay put rather than try to immigrate to Israel for the time being, until all things be fullfilled and the land be cleansed.


But more to the subject...

I have learned to differenciate certain traditions from the entire culture itself.

There are many, perhaps thousands of valuable traditions all over the coninent that we must learn and note and begin putting into practice because they are taylored to fit our very nature as Black people; but the cultures themsleves that these traditions are contained it is what I'm questioning.

There is a lot of valuable widsom and science in our past, but I believe it has been corrupted and practiced improperly and we must extrapolate the good out of them and leave the dead weight behind....then seek out knoweledge from abroad to collect and build with to make a new people out of ourselves.

[Afushe]

Blessings EMPRESS

It's funny you mentioned Ethiopia because I think the major reason Ethiopia remained uncolonized is because it still contains the Ark of the Covenant as a living testament to it's past and the true Israelites.

I mentioned on another thread that the Israelites of Ethiopia would fare better to stay put rather than try to immigrate to Israel for the time being, until all things be fullfilled and the land be cleansed.


But more to the subject...

I have learned to differenciate certain traditions from the entire culture itself.

There are many, perhaps thousands of valuable traditions all over the coninent that we must learn and note and begin putting into practice because they are taylored to fit our very nature as Black people; but the cultures themsleves that these traditions are contained it is what I'm questioning.

There is a lot of valuable widsom and science in our past, but I believe it has been corrupted and practiced improperly and we must extrapolate the good out of them and leave the dead weight behind....then seek out knoweledge from abroad to collect and build with to make a new people out of ourselves.

I agree.....also alot of the traditions, wisdom and sciences is also hidden in these cultures sometimes it might 'look like a duck but it's actually a swan' hidden in plain sight. Research will tell you which is which. Sometimes, and i have seen it time and again, this was done to throw off the parasites. Alot of stuff is a mystery to others but not to us. Many things we did or said are only just being found out by their scientists and researchers and many things they have found only confirms what we have always known. We need to lean to 'read between the lines' of our historians, scientists, healers, educators.... as well as theirs. Then we need to decide what do we embrace and what do we leave behind. The European people as a collective has kept every inch of their culture the only thing they fight about is who gets to be HWIC...... then all they do is repackage it and try to force it as always on the world especially the Afrikan.

I see it this way..... my brothers sisters and cousins and I all live different lives and 'cultures' but we are all from the same family and in times of trouble, celebration, sorrow, we UNITE. What's the difference on the continent. Man! even Cuba got into the fight on the continent back in the day.....CUBA! (that tiny island with all these AFRO-Cubanos who are more Afrikan in culture than some of us North Americans who are still residing in 'the belly of the beast' and can't collectively piss much less do anything truely for ourselves. We need to WAKE UP SOME MORE PEOPLE!!

'Sometimes in their haste to disparage and demean us, they tell us valuable information about our true culture and ourselves' Chancellor Williams 'The Destruction of Afrikan Civilization'

[SpitfireLeo]

I'm pro Black but I'm not Pan-African for 2 major reasons.

First there is no such thing as a single African culture we can go by because Africa is made up of hundreds of different cultures some directly opposed to eachother.
Some African cultures are actually anti-black

Brotha Cherubim, arent' black and Afrikan synonyms? Afrikans are Black! Okay, if you feel that way about using "Afrikan", because there is no single African culture...there is also no single "Black" culture either. And some Black cultures, are directly opposed to each other. And reguarding Afrikan cultures being anti-black, some Black people in America are anti-black. This is from years and years of European colonialism and opression-Afrika was affected by it also. Going back to the traditions and wisdom of indigenous Afrikan cultures
(at least for me) would mean understanding them the way there were before they were corrupted by the European and then building from there to create something new using our ancestors as the foundation.

Also, if you will. About Ethiopia, didn't the Arabs colonized Ethiopia, which is why their influence is so strong there. This was before the European scramble for Afrika, during the East Afrikan slave trade. But If i'm wrong then some one please educate me.

Thanks for allowing me to share

[Warrior Princess]

We need a new universal culture that Black people from all over the world can be apart of and identify with.

This new culture must be founded in knowledge, love, and material progress rather than family, spirituality, and tradition as has been the case in the past.

The very future and survival of our race depends on it.

Greetings, Cherubim.

I would not at all call the suggestions you gave worthless. I would, however, suggest the merging of the very things you suggested, at least for a (potential) growth-inspiring common base.

[IfasehunReincarnated]

Not so friends...

Again i suggest that people read the "Cultural Unity of Black Africa" by Cheik Anta Diop. THe idea that there is no cultural ties between the many ethnicities of Afrika is false, uninformed and based in eurocentric divide and conquer folklore. There are many many more similiaries between the peoples of Afrika than differences.

Most fighting going on in Afrika today is not rooted in difference it is rooted in greed and neocolonism. For this reason you will notice that no indigenous cultural icon, elders' council, traditional priesthood EVER endorse infighting among Afrikans. It is also motivated by foreign religions (Christianity, Islam etc.) or corporate/military aims. (oil, diamonds, etc.)

Again, the idea that there is so much a difference in Afrika that there is no such thing as a "general Afrikan identity" is an lie proposed, inititated, perpetuated and spread by enemies of Afrika.

read "Cultural Unity of Black Africa" by Cheik Anta Diop, one of our foremost historians from within our own ranks and then cross check his references with Chancellor Williams, John Henrik Clarke and and a host of other Afrikan historians. You will only find white (negro) historians perpetuate this lie of cultural difference.

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASI...103854-2907568

We need to stop passing on false information about Afrika. We need to thoroughly research before we form and pass on opinions about Afrika.