What kind of gat u got or will get?

[Warrior Princess]

Originally Posted by Akyeame_Kwame

peace Warrior Princess,

what are your thoughts about sistaz stepping up and being @ the vanguard?

Greetings, Akyeame_Kwame.

My thoughts are... what is to be done must be done. As for "leading", I would not place a dichotomy on this, since it is true that at certain times one's priority is to lead as at certain times one's priority is to follow. Who should lead and at what time is whomever is fit to do so. However, noone should be fixed in any role, one that only leads OR one that only follows. Plus, there are so many different dimensions to this and one might be fully capable of leading in one area yet terribly incompotent in another.

As for Sista Souljah's (and I love her) comments, I am not at all attempting to totally disagree with her reasoning, but at the same time, our reasoning might be similar yet not identical in that I tend to hold the view that without a man a woman could not give birth, just like without a woman a man could not be birthed, so perhaps this is why I feel neither black men nor black women could claim a monopoly on any of this (i.e. leadership) , ESPECIALLY when it is something so major and deals with EVERY single ONE of us (black woman, man, or child). I DO, however, STRONGLY believe that sistersshould be much more informed and in tune with our struggle, in regards to the origins/history and its present manifestations.

Now being completely realistic about leading or even participating in this type of physical battle, NO, MOST sisters are not trained (physically, psychologically, etc.) for this, but at the same time, being completely realistic, MOST brothers are not trained for this, either, but "trained" to me means KNOWING your position (and being able to serve in it compotently) yet being able to get in where you FIT in if/when necessary.

For instance, a female who is U.S. medical corpsman MIGHT not ever physically fight one war, but before she even gets TRAINED to be a U.S. medical corpsman, she gets trained (usually for 8 weeks at the least) to be a SOLDIER. I am not sure if she must pass tests every so often to maintain a satisfactory view of compotency as a "soldier" after she has become a "corpsman", but I am sure that she "should". In regards to all individual members of the collective; we all bring our individual talents/areas of expertise and knowledge to the table, and so this should probably have much to do with our specific positions, but we are all to be soldiers for The People in a general sense.

Anyway, I'll stop now, because your topic is about guns and I do realize I might have helped to get it a bit (okay, WAY) off. However, I feel this discussion should and must continue on this board, so if you (and any of you) are willing, I will be more than happy continue with it as well in Liberation Strategy.

[Akyeame Kwame]

i think WE're essentially saying the same thing...when i say it shouldn't be a one way street i'm saying it shouldn't be an either or thing...when i say sisters be at the vanguard i mean step up and join (not replace, that is to say, if the brothaz are indeed @ the front in whatever area) as opposed to playing the helpless damsel in distress role waiting for brothaz to be like "i'll save you...let me teach u how to do stuff that u could have had the motivation to learn from the jump and been doing it with me or teaching me"...so when i say it shouldn't be a one way street i'm saying both/and doing what need to get done not either/or...

AK

[Akyeame Kwame]

Commentary: While Gun Violence Continues to Destroy Our Communities, Where’s Our Resolve to End It?

Date: Sunday, April 17, 2005
By: Deborah Mathis, BlackAmericaWeb.com

Having just wrapped up its annual convention in Houston, the National Rifle Association has reaffirmed its wisdom in naming me, among hundreds, to its “blacklist� – a designation reserved for gun control advocates.

Actually, I belong in a special category because the gun control I propose would be total and absolute. Under my plan, the number of Americans with legal possession of guns would be reduced to a few thousand, if that.

The truth is, I despise the guns and, increasingly, the people who defend their accessibility. Not even the “just for hunting� and “just for sport� arguments sway me. As a citizen of the most homicidal country on the planet –- and, not coincidentally, the highest per capita ownership of firearms –- how can I justify the human tragedies as a fair trade-off for the right to stalk game or shoot at targets?

No doubt, my blackness has only intensified my resolve. In my community, gun violence is the number-one killer of 15- to 24-year-olds, mainly males. In effect, gun violence is helping wipe out posterity. It’s another strike against the number of free, healthy and hopeful young black males -– half of the equation that makes the future of the black family a win or lose proposition.

Despair, rejection and aimlessness may be the motivation behind the black-on-black killing spree that has bedeviled black America since the 1980s, but, too often, guns have been the implement with which to carry out the anger, revenge and fear that flow from those deprivations.

A decade ago, black America raised Cain about the influx of cocaine into its neighborhoods. We shouted our suspicions that high-level operatives – private and governmental – had, at best, looked the other way while suppliers dumped the stuff on us and had possibly even financed and facilitated it. After all, we argued, “black people don’t own planes and speedboats,� the common modes of import from South America, Afghanistan and other cocaine-producing countries.

The hell-raising didn’t stop the flow of drugs, but at least we didn’t just roll over. It’s not much – it certainly isn’t enough – but it’s better than nothing.

Unfortunately, we have not been as outspoken against the flood of firearms that makes it possible for just about any kid to cop a gun within hours -- that is, if he can’t simply retrieve one from a drawer, shelf or cabinet at home.

The NRA claims gun ownership is not only a right but, to some degree, a responsibility.

Given its druthers, the organization –- deemed the most powerful lobby in all of over-lobbied Washington –- would have more guns in more American hands (or pockets or purses or glove compartments) and with less regulation on who purchases them, where they’re sold and how they’re carried. When you bring up the deadly effects their ideal would have on the black community, they remind you that black people were once prohibited from owning guns as a way of keeping them susceptible to white rule.

Consequently, as one NRA representative once insisted, a black woman like me should be one of the first to oppose gun control.

In return, I asked him what the NRA was doing to help black Americans secure their right to bear arms with proper maintenance and training. He had no answer. Appropriately so, since the NRA has no such program, no such outreach and, I dare say, no such passion about “educating� the black community and improving our marksmanship.

So, the group had its big party, its big rah-rah session, its giant trade show, its keynote speaker in the person of House Majority Leader Tom Delay -– a fitting choice, given that like the NRA, he too is a bully on Capitol Hill. Now, it’s off to another year of fighting for folks who want to walk down the avenue or take a few swigs at the bar with a gun in their waistbands.

Only, not in black America. Those zip codes aren’t in the NRA’s direct mail database.

[Daisho]

I myself am no gun fanatic, in an ideal world we'd all hold hands and sing happy songs while happy flowers danced to the songs of birds however, that's not the case. I do know that my home can be invaded at anytime by the Nazi goon squad we adoringly call 5-0 or even by some self loathing super thugs who don't respect my personal space or that of my family. I'm a firm believer in self defense, self protection and the right to protect myself and family by any means necessary. Be it gun, blade or a sock fulla' pennies I won't surrender that option. Knowing the history of this nation and it's affinity for dangling me by it's court systems or by high strung nylon ropes it's foolish of me to think all is well in hell. I do advocate training our brothers and sisters self love and self defense everything from philosophy to fire arms training. I don't think you should be able to touch a gun until you can read, write and perform basic math. You shouldn't be able to fire a gun until you can demonstrate that you can cool your head and realize that it's the last resort to resolve conflicts. So, while Moses and his posse are praising smith n' wesson, heckler and koch, Glock and alike...I reserve the right to own equal fire power hell even stronger considering historically as a people we don't go from sea to shining sea offing every people in the rainbow. Train hard...meaning train your mind, cultivate your spirit and work your body into the form you can rely on for endurance. We as a people have to understand we owe no request to beg for equality to this beast!

[Akyeame Kwame]

i witchu Daisho:

"Practically speaking about the efforts to disarm Afrikan men, a new handgun [is] being produced every 20 seconds by the 922 u.s. gun manufacturers alone. That given, simple math tells us that this adds up to 3 handguns made every minute, 180 every hour, 4,320 every day, 30,240 every week, nearly 130,000 every month, and over one and a half million each year. However, we miss the point by focusing solely on these statistics....They don't tell us about the 250 million legal handguns already in circulation or the untold number of illegal ones brought onto these shores through underground markets or as prizes by veterans of Europe's wars on the world. It does not speak to assault weapons, shotguns, rifles, grenade launchers, bazookas, attack helicopters, tanks or hand-held surface to surface missles, etc., etc., readily available in stores and homes....And last, but not least, this legal handgun market in no way speaks to the thousands of individuals who know, or millions who can easily learn, how to make weapons. Guns, whether produced in factories or basements are made by people using relatively simple technology....All this may lead one to question, the viability and feasibility of gun buy-back programs, especially since these efforts are specifically concentrated in neighborhoods where we are most concentrated. Ignoring the seemingly altruistic nature of such a noble idea, within the larger picture, this effort toward reducing violence in our community has an extremely limited impact. In fact, we won't even mention the guns bought back in places like Houston that are repackaged by police departments and shipped to other cities like L.A. for resale on the open market. Just compare the very limited number of weapons returned through gun buy-back programs last year with the enormous number of new handguns manufactured over the same time period or just those circulated among whites at gun shows."

Larry D. Crawford (Mwalimu K. Bomani Baruti)
negroes and other essays

"The nazis have guns, the skinheads have guns, the kkk have guns. And who do they come to saying give up the guns? Us! ...This is equality...This is democracy."--Kwame Ture

AK

[Akyeame Kwame]

Berretta's CX4 Storm is such a smooth trigger pull and with can't miss factory sights...you'll get shots to the middle of the forehead everytime...literally...my little sister could become a professional sniper with this...and i don't even have a little sister!!! (LL...that's a little mind-bender for y'all)



i highly recommend that this carbine be standard issue amongst members of the forums...one

AK

[Daisho]

Got an estimated Price tag on this Baby? Do you know if they've solved the problems they've had in the past with recoil?

Originally Posted by Akyeame_Kwame

Berretta's CX4 Storm is such a smooth trigger pull and with can't miss factory sights...you'll get shots to the middle of the forehead everytime...literally...my little sister could become a professional sniper with this...and i don't even have a little sister!!! (LL...that's a little mind-bender for y'all)



i highly recommend that this carbine be standard issue amongst members of the forums...one

AK

[Akyeame Kwame]

Originally Posted by Daisho

Got an estimated Price tag on this Baby? Do you know if they've solved the problems they've had in the past with recoil?

$629 around my way...and i get more recoil on my stapler than i get with the Storm...on the money 4 my money ...stay Black2DaNif!!!

AK

[Daisho]

Sounds like the Gospel Kwame, Thanks.

[Akyeame Kwame]

Originally Posted by Daisho

Sounds like the Gospel Kwame, Thanks.

htp Daisho...i was up in range yesterday like...this one here is The Truth!!!

man a Brother who works at the gun range had a souped-up one too...same .40 caliber...but with all kind of laser sights/scope/illuminator with uv blocker and an attached handle at the front for even greater stability...but honestly, with the success i was having i put it down at the back of the range as far as the target would go and out of 11 shots the only 2 that didn't hit the head were about a centimeter away from the head...this one here is The Truth!!!

AK

[Akyeame Kwame]

http://www.packing.org/



AK

[Daisho]

Moving south this'll come in handy. Thanks.

[Akyeame Kwame]

anything 4 tha
BlackNificent!!!

AK

[Moorish Rebel]

If it ever goes down with the enemy like that, I'm a fan of the AK.

[Akyeame Kwame]

Originally Posted by Moorish Rebel

If it ever goes down with the enemy like that, I'm a fan of the AK.

i feel that...