What kind of gat u got or will get?

[Akyeame Kwame]

peace Afrikans,

i'm told this area is secure and got the go-ahead from XXPANTHAXX to post on weapons...soooo...

...after researching for a while someone who will remain nameless just made an investment in a glock .40 and a beretta cx4 storm carbine, also .40...of course based on considerations of using the same ammunition...it's more common than the .223 standard in carbines and cops use this caliber a lot. this person also invested in personal defense ammunition...federal and winchester hollow points...about 60 rounds expropriated from the local wal-fart...

...my question is to you, would i be advised to purchase weapons such as these? what kind of weapons do people that you know possess or would you recommend? what kind of ammunition? what are your considerations in purchasing weapons and ammunition? stay BlackNificent...

AK

[XXPANTHAXX]

I generally advise Warriors to secure the most common weapons for these reasons 1. availabilty of Ammo 2. mastering the caliber 3. mastering the technique,
my personal favorite is the 9mm ruger p85 its accuracy is great, ammo is abundant & maintence is a cinch..an added plus is finding a 16 round clip for it is easy at gun shows.

avoid all chrome looking gats, they are for show, and could getcha killed!!!

[XXPANTHAXX]

A double barrel shotty is a great investment they are usually under 200 and have a great spray range, no Warrior should be without one.

[Akyeame Kwame]

htp XXPANTHAXX,

how is the 9mm for stopping power? i know an added plus is that it's cheaper to shoot than the .40's and .45's.

what model shotty? i know some are kinda shoddy...

AK

[XXPANTHAXX]

Actually the stopping power is based on the accuracy, if you are a good shot you can probaly stop them all.

Shotty's some people recommend costly ones, I prefer cheap ones, for these reasons 1 there is no ballistic test to tie in a shotgun, without prints if it falls into enemy hands its difficult if not impossible to trace, with that in mind a 500 dollar shotty might get someone caught, where as a 150 dollar one probally wont Maverick and Mossberg are reasonably priced shotties.

Research via the net and bring back your findings on the ballistic tests for shottys

[Akyeame Kwame]

L L...can't argue with that...if you can aim a .22 right it's better than being cross-eyed with a .357 magnum

http://www.fortliberty.org/military-...munition.shtml

came up with this...it has a couple of military manuals on ballistics...i'm going to have to go back to check on it...

good advice on the shotty...stay BlackCellent!

AK

[rebelAfrika]

I've had firearms (clean and dirty) in the past and I don't have NEITHER of them anymore and I'll leave that at that.

What I would like to have now is first and foremost, as Brutha Malcolm advised...a rifle. Preferably the AK-47 (assult rifle) and the Chinese (or Russian) SKS semi-automatic. As many as I could aquire.

Along with that, I would like Shotguns. Preferably the pistol grip pump...and also I would like the Mac 11. As many as I could aquire.

Along with that, I would like a .380 and a .45 revolver. I don't need many of these, but I would like to have more than one.

Finally, I would like to have some shit off the white market. Some shit that I would not even want to be associated with me (if discovered). Maybe one day I will be able to travel to Somalia

[SoularFlarez]

saw a 45. in this handgun book that can use 45. 9mm or 38. ammo....i gotta do sum mo research on it tho...also get liscence n practice my aim since I dun have record

[Akyeame Kwame]

Originally Posted by rebelafrika

I've had firearms (clean and dirty) in the past and I don't have NEITHER of them anymore and I'll leave that at that.

What I would like to have now is first and foremost, as Brutha Malcolm advised...a rifle. Preferably the AK-47 (assult rifle) and the Chinese (or Russian) SKS semi-automatic. As many as I could aquire.

Along with that, I would like Shotguns. Preferably the pistol grip pump...and also I would like the Mac 11. As many as I could aquire.

Along with that, I would like a .380 and a .45 revolver. I don't need many of these, but I would like to have more than one.

Finally, I would like to have some shit off the white market. Some shit that I would not even want to be associated with me (if discovered). Maybe one day I will be able to travel to Somalia

htp rebelAfrika,

what are yr main considerations in the specific pieces that you mention?

AK

[Akyeame Kwame]

Originally Posted by SoularFlarez

saw a 45. in this handgun book that can use 45. 9mm or 38. ammo....i gotta do sum mo research on it tho...also get liscence n practice my aim since I dun have record

a lot of recoil on the .45...what type of gun? beretta? does it come with the conversion kit?

AK

[Akyeame Kwame]

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg136-e.htm

http://www.cx4storm.com/

http://www.glock.com/g22.htm
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[Akyeame Kwame]

Gunfighting Rules (as compiled from a multitude of sources):
1. Have a gun. Two is better.
2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting soon and often.
3. Only hits count. You can't miss fast enough to win.
4. If your shooting stance is perfect, you should probably be running like hell for cover.
5. Keep shooting until the threat goes away, then stay sharp until somebody with a badge tells you to freeze (then shoot them too if you can).
6. If you can choose what to bring to a gun fight, bring a shotgun and a friend with a rifle.
7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of weapon manufacturer, caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
8. If you are not shooting, you should be reloading or running (or both).
9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" that the inherent accuracy of the gun.
10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because you shot up all the bullets in it.
11. “Friendly fire� isn’t.

[rebelAfrika]

Originally Posted by Akyeame_Kwame

htp rebelAfrika,

what are yr main considerations in the specific pieces that you mention?

AK

AK-47: I saw a history channel special on the history of the "Automatic Kalashnikov" 1947 last year that highlighted what I already knew about the weapon, but also pointed out some things I didn't know. It's an EXTREMELY weather resistant weapon. I mean...you can treat that weapon like SHIT and it's still gonna deliver. The Vietcong Guerillas would lay up in mud and rain and moisture for days with their AK's and when it was "go time," they would DEFINITELY out perform the amerikkkan M-16. An amerikkkan military specialist even admitted that it is amerikkkka's arrogance that will not allow it to admit that the Soviets created a "superior" combat rifle. Not only that, it can take out targets from long distances, which is ESSENTIAL in guerilla warfare. I "believe" it uses the same ammunition as the M-16 (.223's or .226's...I can't remember which ones), but if I am wrong about that, I know that I am not wrong when I say that WHATEVER ammunition it uses, they have not created the bullet proof vest to stop it yet. In fact, AK rounds are notorious for ripping through metal, going through walls and being practically unstoppable.



SKS: The SKS is the semi-automatic "clone" of the AK-47 which is fully automatic. If you have an SKS, it can be modified to be fully automatic too. Whether it is the Chinese model or Soviet model makes little difference except that the Chinese model is cheaper in price. I used to own one of these and my brother, who is a cop, told me that weapons like that are not good for "home defence," but good for "if the government goes into anarchy." I knew from that point on that I loved the SKS. Again, this rifle is good for a guerilla to take his enemies head off from a far distance and then disappear in the night.



Shotguns: VERY easy to use. Also police usually have them and the ammo is very easy to find. God forbid you come across a dead cop. You'd probably find some of this ammo on his person. MOST IMPORTANTLY though...buckshot "sprays." The pistol grip pump just makes it easier to control.



Mac 11: Another weapon that sprays. It uses small bullets though. But the fact that it "sprays" though may be an INVALUABLE factor at a time when you can't really concentrate on aim. Also it is smaller than an UZI.



.45 Revolver: If you are SO CLOSE to your enemy that you HAVE to use a handgun, then this would be my gun of choice (not necessarily a "Colt" .45 revolver...but a .45 revolver). .45 slugs are HUGE. I want to make sure my enemy goes down if I have to use a hand gun and a .45 (and good aim) damn near gaurentees it. Also, I prefer a revolver because I would rather have six shots and the ability to keep my shells with me (to dispose of later) then to have 16 shots and have my shells spitting all over the place. When I want the police to have my fingerprints (ESPECIALLY off of some discharged rounds), I will walk up and give them to them. I ain't tryin' to have them "FIND" my fingerprints off of some shells that "MY" .45 spit out. As one of my lawyer friends points out, what they find on the shells is sometimes the difference between hearing "guilty" or "not guilty."



.380: If you get yourself into a stupid situation, then unfortunately you may have to rely on a stupid gun. Thus the .380. The only value in a .380 is that it is HELLA concealable and it is bigger than a .22. These guns are notorious for jamming though (at least amoungst the killas I know )

[rebelAfrika]

Originally Posted by Akyeame_Kwame

a lot of recoil on the .45...what type of gun? beretta? does it come with the conversion kit?

AK

some .45's are weighted to take off some of the kick though. Heavy to lift, but no kick and deadly accuracy.

[Akyeame Kwame]

To expand the original question, which one would you prefer to have when:

point shooting?
long range shooting?
cqc shooting?
shooting dogs?
shooting bears or cougars?
shooting combat courses?
shooting stationary targets?
shooting multiple targets?
shooting skeet?
shooting a line?
shooting pool?
shooting a curl?
shooting a basketball?
shooting a puck?
shooting stars?
shooting marbles?
shooting craps?
shooting pain?
shooting the breeze?
shooting the shyt?
shooting the messenger?
shooting yourself in the foot?
shooting your mouth off?
shooting fish in a barrel?
shooting for the moon?

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