Should Revolutionaries Smoke Marijuana?

[John P.]

i use to smoke alot...Nas-"you couldn't catch me in the streets without a ton of reefer,that's like Malcom x catching a jungle fever"......that was me but it made me lazy and i didn't do anything active....i will say my comprehension of reading material was better....so i use to smoke when i had to read a book for class and it kept me thinking and actually marijuna was what made me step out of my brain-wash mentality and realize i was mis-educated..so i guess i can't say they shouldn't but i would say i wouldn't recommend...for physical reason....1

[Nubian]

i agree..weed is not necessary for one to be revolutionary. you don't have to have it..i just don't want to endorse the statement that it should be banned or shunned by afrikans..in general..unless you can show how its use profits our enemies etc..then it makes sense to avoid it.

the myth that it leads to harder drug use is nothing but propaganda by the system...and as far as rastas are concerned(in the carribean at least) they see it as a tool that could greatly strengthen the economies of these islands..ask yourslef why won't babylon let afrikans cultivate the herb and export it? the demand is certainly there..if the u.s. legalized weed the carribean would be balling over night! hahaha..poverty done..instantly..

[SoularFlarez]

truuu but do REALLY wanna end poverty and see the ''3rd world'' ballen? i i doubt it lolz

[Sadiku]

Here's my real low down on "weed." It has been criminalized by our enemy. They benefit immensely from our use of it two fold. First, they control the flow of the drug, marijuana, second, they collect all fines regarding its use and so forth in the criminal "justice" system. For this reason and this reason alone I wouldn't advocate our use of it. We have been using "weed" too long and it hasn't freed us from bondage and to be blunt, it has made us lazy, jail prone, over eating wimps. All drugs take you out of your natural mind state. We are so totally out of our natural minds that we can not amass a military to deal with our oppression. One of the biggest downfalls of the Black Panthers was the use of drugs. Drugs is just a way to be infiltrated by the enemy. It is the gateway used by the oppressor to enter our communities. Look what happened to India and China in the Opium war. I wish we would wake up and look at the historical dialectics and apply them to ourselves. Regardless to the so-called spiritual benefits, which I seriously take offense to, we shouldn't partake of it as long as we are oppressed! Many indigenous cultures had the use of natural "drugs" in their natural unadulturated state, such as coca leaves used (chewed on) by Indians in South America! This I don't disagree with, but the reality is is that we are no longer in an indigenous culture, therefore the paradigm has shifted relating to the use of natural substances. We should not use them. Look at us and tell me where have drugs, including marijuana, taken/gotten us - no damn where, but to the bottom of the barrel and the oppressor's prisons for sure. Call a Spade a spade. Everybody exploits us with drugs. There is more drugs in the Black "ghettos" then anywhere else. Marijuana is still a gateway drug. Where ever you find marijuana you are 90 percent likely to find other drugs being sold, including the infamous drug, CRACK. That's a fact. Come out of denial. I ain't feeling no drugs for revolutionaries. Period. I ain't hating either. You can't be a true Black died in the Black revolutionary doing drugs and smoking weed. Deal with the real, the physical, and then deal with everything else. Our spirituality is more intact without marijuana.

Remember, that based on the present dynamics and criminalization of marijuana, our oppressor, undoubtedly, benefits from our continued use of all stimulants/drugs, including alcohol. And we, as revolutionaries, should not use them as a crutch to escape reality. We must begin to deal with the harsh fact and reality of our present enslavement! No drug is going to help us win our freedom!

Peace

Originally Posted by Nubian

i agree..weed is not necessary for one to be revolutionary. you don't have to have it..i just don't want to endorse the statement that it should be banned or shunned by afrikans..in general..unless you can show how its use profits our enemies etc..then it makes sense to avoid it.

the myth that it leads to harder drug use is nothing but propaganda by the system...and as far as rastas are concerned(in the carribean at least) they see it as a tool that could greatly strengthen the economies of these islands..ask yourslef why won't babylon let afrikans cultivate the herb and export it? the demand is certainly there..if the u.s. legalized weed the carribean would be balling over night! hahaha..poverty done..instantly..

[Kweku_Omowale]

Originally Posted by Sadiku

Here's my real low down on "weed." It has been criminalized by our enemy. They benefit immensely from our use of it two fold. First, they control the flow of the drug, marijuana, second, they collect all fines regarding its use and so forth in the criminal "justice" system. For this reason and this reason alone I wouldn't advocate our use of it. We have been using "weed" too long and it hasn't freed us from bondage and to be blunt, it has made us lazy, jail prone, over eating wimps. All drugs take you out of your natural mind state. We are so totally out of our natural minds that we can not amass a military to deal with our oppression. One of the biggest downfalls of the 'Black Panthers was the use of drugs. Drugs is just a way to be infiltrated by the enemy. It is the gateway used by the oppressor to enter our communities. Look what happened to India and China in the Opium war. I wish we would wake up and look at the historical dialectics and apply them to ourselves. Regardless to the so-called spiritual benefits, which I seriously take offense to, we shouldn't partake of it as long as we are oppressed! Many indigenous cultures had the use of natural "drugs" in their natural unadulturated state, such as coca leaves used (chewed on) by Indians in South America! This I don't disagree with, but the reality is is that we are no longer in an indigenous culture, therefore the paradigm has shifted relating to the use of natural substances. We should not use them. Look at us and tell me where have drugs, including marijuana, taken/gotten us - no damn where, but to the bottom of the barrel and the oppressors prisons for sure. Call a Spade a spade. Everybody exploits us with drugs. There is more drugs in the Black "ghettos" then anywhere else. Marijuana is still a gateway drug. Where ever you find marijuana you are 90 percent likely to find other drugs being sold, including the infamous drug, CRACK. That's a fact. Come out of denial. I ain't feeling no drugs for revolutionaries. Period. I ain't hating either. You can't be a true Black died in the Black revolutionary doing drugs and smoking weed. Deal with the real, the physical, and then deal with everything else. Our spirituality is more intact without marijuana.

Remember, that based on the present dynamics and criminalization of the marijuana, our oppressor, undoubtedly, benefits from our use of all stimulants/drugs. And we, as revolutionaries, should not use them as a crutch to escape reality. We must begin to deal with the harsh fact and reality of our present enslavement! No drug is going to help us win our freedom!

Peace

true words neva been so spoken souljah sadiku stay backstastically blackxcellent my brother,spme dem rastas here in toronto are menatlly messed up yo!

[Sadiku]

why i don't get high on shit

by sonia sanchez

cuz it says
nigger..............u stupid.........u an
ass........u suicidal..........an
escapist.......i'll help u die
escape....just take these pills/
weed/
.........stuff
.................everyday.....& come with
me to tripland.............change colors.
...............................get wite...forget
u blk ever been blk
forget that blk/woman
waiten for u
yo/blk/children...........yo/blk/
nation.

.........c'mon fooooool.
..............................suckerrrrr........ta ke some
more of my shittttt.
.........................& stay dead.
............................................foreve r.

[Sadiku]

Your oppressor doesn't allow marijuana, heroin, cocaine, meth-aphetamines, opium, etc... in his military so why would you allow them in yours? He knows that you cannot fight a war with the troops "high"! When are we gonna deal with this truth for what it really is. We are just playing revolution when we don't deal with the real. That's why we are continuously losing the war on all fronts!

We have so many babies that are being born, and have been born fucked up with all kinds of deformities, because of "drugs." All drugs. There are no excuses for this. Also, if you didn't know, drugs mutates/deforms the male sperm and female eggs. I hope you all know this! If you didn't now you do.

We need to quit trippin' and start fightin' for our freedom. Then we can all party, celebrate and get high on natural life.

[Nappy]

Growing up in a Jamaican family has nothing to do with the fact that I smoke herb. BUT, after being introduced to the Rastafarian culture, I learned that herb should NOT be smoked for entertainment, but rather to bring your consciousness closer to The Most High. When people use the term, "elevated" to describe being "high"...that means, you are closer, mentally, to The Most High and will be blessed with the ability to decypher, create, analyze and reflect. I don't think that smoking would hinder the Revolt in the Revolutionary as much as it will keep them in a more Godly state of mind. Herb is natural and it is important to feed and live off of the land and laboratory of the Most High!!

[Shawnfury2003]

well, I guess theres no need to prove points that have already been made so I voted NO!!! bruthah Sadiku made good points so theres no point in me saying the same thing...peace

[Toto]

Well, the smoking of marijwana or weed, in my view, is that it differs from person to person in the way it treats them. I've seen individuals reacting in different ways (when they are ireh / hi) that they like and don't like...EG Paranoir(in my case). As for myself, i can still do the things i normally do, and i guess that is dependant on the way i smoke it. I'm able to determine the right amount for myself, which still allows me to think normally, but what i like more when im in the state is the clearity i chief, when i observe or listen or even analyse things. It is true that u tend to c deeper than what u normally would in an ordinary state. One acknowledgement i have about the herb relating to myself is that i only started paying attention to my Black background and consciousness, as well as the history of a black man world wide, after i started smoking. Prior to me smoking, i didn't even c the revolution of slavery which is still propelling itself today.
After all, it is a plant, and falls in as part of creation, the only problem is that we've galvanised it and abused it. I'd love to admit that anything that we overindulge in, obviously creates some form of degredation sooner or later. If you over indulge in food, u may become obese and prone to certain diseases, and i believe it goes the same way form a person who's under weight. This is why i feel that one should really monitor their use of the herb.

[IfasehunReincarnated]

Good points Nappy and Toto

[Nubian]

I give herb credit for really awakening my mind to certain things..of course these things were really there anyways..latent forces within me..made evident by the fact that when i first smoked it.i didn't smoke and go to a club..i smoked and read cheikh anta diop..or francess cress wesling etc..i give credit to the herb for putting me in the mindstate to hear the ancestors. .

i even give credit to the herb and the ancestors for showing me when to leave it alone..so it varies from person to person..i won't say we should use it..but i wan't say we shouldn't..its an individual descision.peace.

[Akyeame Kwame]

BlackCellent points Sadiku...even poetry on top of it all...stay BlackNificent!

AK

[RecoveringAA]

Ganja to blame for crime
published: Friday | November 25, 2005

Glenroy Sinclair, Staff Reporter


( L - R )DE LA HAYE AND HICKLING

GANJA, ALCOHOL and hopelessness are contributing to the country's soaring murder rate, which has now reached 1,478. So says mental health experts at the University of the West Indies.

The assertion about ganja was made Wednesday night by Dr. Winston De La Haye, president of the Psychiatry Association of Jamaica while speaking at a public forum on gambling, sex and food addictions at the Courtleigh Hotel, St. Andrew. He was responding to suggestions that some persons may have become "addicted" to the use of the gun and to violence.

"Cannabis (ganja) can make you mad, so why take a chance and use it?" said the mental health expert.

"We do believe that cannabis is playing a role in violence in this country. Cannabis has tetrahydro cannabinol (THC) which brings out aggression in people," said Dr. De La Haye, who is also a consultant psychiatrist and clinical director of the Detoxification Unit at the University Hospital of the West Indies (UHWI).

But according to UHWI Professor, Fred Hickling: "The use of ganja can be a secondary issue. People are so frustrated and fed up with poverty that they believe the best way out of their problem is to resort to a spliff," he said.

FEELING OF HOPELESSNESS

He said the root cause of the violence in Jamaica could be the feeling of hopelessness among inner-city youths, who believe that the easiest way out of their problems is to take up a gun and shoot and kill people.

"These young people (the ones committing violent crimes) are well respected and supported by the community where they are from," said Professor Hickling.
The professor described Jamaica as being divided into two halves: one for the rich and the other for the poor.

"I don't see any hope for the masses of poor people," he concluded.

[AzaniaSpeaks]

Greetings! ImHotep!

Any opiate that compromises the ability of logical, concise and focused thinking should be discarded by all Afrikans, not just revolutionaries! Food, sports, keeping-up-w/the-jones, integration, education [so-called], fantasies, pornography, religion, nicotine, dairy products, on and on and on. . . .

Reason: to build Kemet logical, concise and focused thinking, planning and action was necessary, implemented and utilized! Kemet is our most researched ancient civilization and therefore a most worthy example. If we are to return to our heights of greatness, we must let go of our crutches -- whatever they may be. . . .

I've often wondered whether the usage/dependency upon the lotus led the mighty Kemet to it's downfall????? Once the mind starts to lose its focus the will is not far behind. . . .

Power and Protection Is With You. . . along w/my Love!