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Should Revolutionaries Smoke Marijuana?

As a brother who's deepest and clearest thoughts came to him while he was blunted...I'm curious to know if you all feel that the good ol' green "charm that grows natural like locks on Afrikans" will hinder the revolutionary.
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As a brother who's deepest and clearest thoughts came to him while he was blunted...I'm curious to know if you all feel that the good ol' green "charm that grows natural like locks on Afrikans" will hinder the revolutionary.
One of my respected elder comrades and political mentors told me the same thing that you are saying. He told me that marijuana allowed him to see things outside of the box, therefore he is an ADVOCATE of using marijuana. I also am very much "PRO" marijuana, but I do NOT smoke it. It's been too much of a henderance in terms of slavin'.
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As a brother who's deepest and clearest thoughts came to him while he was blunted...I'm curious to know if you all feel that the good ol' green "charm that grows natural like locks on Afrikans" will hinder the revolutionary.
in the context of WAR in which WE find Ourselves...i advocate always being of the clearest awareness unimpeded by marijuana, alcohol, etc.

one should always (100% of the time, even when sleeping) be aware and vigilant without senses distorted by such substances...this is WAR and WE can't afford to play...

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strict physical revolutionaries - no.
revolutionaries with spiritual disciplines - yes. (but for all)

I cant remember what book it is, Facing Mt Kenya possible, but there is this story of how elders used to determine which young people could cope w/ smoking and maintaining productive lives. they used to lay out several items in a room and then bring the youth in and let them smoke.

if i am remembering correctly:

some kind of reading material (if we invented the 1st alphabet stands to reason we knew how to read)
a weapon
a meal
a ritual item
something else that escapes me

if you chose a weapon or a meal you typically prohibited from ever smoking again. lifetime ban. if you chose a ritual item or reading material you were allowed to smoke...

i may be remembering only part of impartially. sorry. i will look it up tonite.
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I have to agree 110%. No to marijuana and any drug which affects your physical and mental state in the battle field. For some reason people seem to forget when we talk about Biological-Chemical Warfare waged against Our People that weed doesn't fit into that category. I can't think of one revolutionary organization rule book where smoking weed or any other drug is acceptable. Weed alot with all of other natural products have been tampered with and this is the reason for hyro, Afganastan, purple, cush, fire, orange hair, bin Laden, cali, etc, etc. All these different kinds of created weeds. Biological-Chemical Warfare!


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in the context of WAR in which WE find Ourselves...i advocate always being of the clearest awareness unimpeded by marijuana, alcohol, etc.

one should always (100% of the time, even when sleeping) be aware and vigilant without senses distorted by such substances...this is WAR and WE can't afford to play...

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This guy is using MJ to elevate his spirit. He aint smoking while watching rap videos:


These guys wants to lock you up if they catch you:


This cat is abusing the Herb and himself.
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if ya gonna smoke a blunt n jus sit around watchen tv or wateva bein silly den nahh

but if U can read a book,meditate etc jus on sum chill sh--, thas cool I guess. i used to smoke like MAD blunts but now like once a week if THAT much. gotta be careful these days too. sumbody mite be sellen ya trees mix wit coke or wet(pcp).

when i first started smoken heavy would be in the basement with me homies jus talken or listnen to musik n READEN, this was same time i was comen into alot of knowledge that i never heard b4. it funny tho wheneva im learnen suttin new now i get suped up like it bringen my buzz back or suttin.im taken it easy now tho cuz smoken make U hungry n lazy or BOTH. good revolutionary makes, this does not haha
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strict physical revolutionaries - no.
revolutionaries with spiritual disciplines - yes. (but for all)

I cant remember what book it is, Facing Mt Kenya possible, but there is this story of how elders used to determine which young people could cope w/ smoking and maintaining productive lives. they used to lay out several items in a room and then bring the youth in and let them smoke.

if i am remembering correctly:

some kind of reading material (if we invented the 1st alphabet stands to reason we knew how to read)
a weapon
a meal
a ritual item
something else that escapes me

if you chose a weapon or a meal you typically prohibited from ever smoking again. lifetime ban. if you chose a ritual item or reading material you were allowed to smoke...

i may be remembering only part of impartially. sorry. i will look it up tonite.


this is goooood right here...
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well,i dont think,true revolutionaries should smoke,i have often seen here in toronto,among the rastas community( supposedly conscious) that they smoke marjuana,we should remember that our bodies are our temples,when we are speaking of combat,we have to be ready,the body should be ready and the mind should be clear,in commom cigarrete ther are about 1000 chemicals, sometimes people laces marijuana,with other stuff,every warrior should be fully versed in the art of war, and read the book called the art of war,because the enemy knows it too,we should be ahead of dem
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I don't advocate smoking or drinking or doing anything that we call "drugs." I am even against caffein and cigarettes and blunts. Anything that the oppressor has synthetically made!! Anything that keeps you from acting in the best interest of your people then you need to let it go. There's always exceptions though, but you have to know if it's you or not. I am totally against drugs!!!
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i don't think weed is for every one..however i do not think it should be banned for revolutionaries..

its a plant..and the criminilization of it has major signifigance on the criminilization of afrikan culture and practices in general..so i say we must fight for the freedom of the herb which some afrikans regard as a cultural sacrament..a cultural thing..

its not a drug..its not a man made synthetic thing..we have to stop this somewhere..if we continue to abandon what is seen as cultural expression cuz babylon hs outlawed it then we will cease to exist as a people..next your ancestral altars and offerings will be banned!Your sacrifices to the orishas will be illegal..

you who advocate the use of sacred herbs should fight for this one as well.

with that being said..i am not for the recreational abuse of this herb..i use it.but never in sport and fun and play..it affects me in a way that when i partake..i can't stand to be around foolishness..slackness and negativity..i use it for meditation...and inspiration..and to study...so for those purposes i advocate it...it aids in those endeavors...and a revolutionary can benefit from its use under certain circumstanes..
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Im not going to debate the harmful effects of it. But to put it simple it is not needed to be a revolutionary. Thats the way to play it safe. What if you get addicted and it leads to other drugs. I have read that those hard drugs are more harmful to Blacks than other races.
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lol@ nubian, i have heard so many thangs among rastafarians( some dem contradict demselves though) i dont think,we have to smoke for cultural expression,though, however, rastas say that it makes dem to connect with their higher self,whateva, whatever tickles their bones man, i dont think to be revolutionary,we have to smoke, it gives live amo to the enemies to criminalize us already,not that we have more labels being attached to us that adds further to our marginilzation,i agree with you sister goodrain( let it pour)
* smile* it can lead to other addictions, rastas like to talk about babylon dis and babylon dat right,selling marijuana to our afrikan youth, by some dysfunktional afrikans,aint helping the problem,we need to help people to solve their problems,mentally,spiritually and physically and not contribute to their allienation and isolation,humbly urs kweku

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strict physical revolutionaries - no.
revolutionaries with spiritual disciplines - yes. (but for all)

I cant remember what book it is, Facing Mt Kenya possible, but there is this story of how elders used to determine which young people could cope w/ smoking and maintaining productive lives. they used to lay out several items in a room and then bring the youth in and let them smoke.

if i am remembering correctly:

some kind of reading material (if we invented the 1st alphabet stands to reason we knew how to read)
a weapon
a meal
a ritual item
something else that escapes me

if you chose a weapon or a meal you typically prohibited from ever smoking again. lifetime ban. if you chose a ritual item or reading material you were allowed to smoke...

i may be remembering only part of impartially. sorry. i will look it up tonite.
htp Baba Ifa,

i am in agreement that context has a big impact on correctness. i am also aware that spiritual disciplines were given as a reason for Our Afrikan ancestors got into the schnapps, gin and what not...that was used to pour libations and conduct spiritual rituals...

this is the same liquor that many times Our people were sold to obtain in infamous slave markets like Saguase (translates to "under the liquor stool") in Ghana...

Even the spiritual disciplines and i would even go to say especially the spiritual disciplines should be evaluated based on the context of WAR in which WE find Ourselves.

For spiritual practitioners and others relevant questions should be: who benefits economically when i use weed, what are the physical implications, what are effects on consciousness, how much sense does it make to channel spiritual energies for the purpose of, say, to fight krakkkaz when these spiritual energies are requiring me to enrich these same krakkkaz that they are supposedly helping me fight against? if these considerations were there back in the day WE and Our spiritual energies would be in better condition than WE find Ourselves in. Context is key. stay BlackNificent!

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Even the spiritual disciplines and i would even go to say especially the spiritual disciplines should be evaluated based on the context of WAR in which WE find Ourselves.

For spiritual practitioners and others relevant questions should be: who benefits economically when i use weed, what are the physical implications, what are effects on consciousness, how much sense does it make to channel spiritual energies for the purpose of, say, to fight krakkkaz when these spiritual energies are requiring me to enrich these same krakkkaz that they are supposedly helping me fight against? if these considerations were there back in the day WE and Our spiritual energies would be in better condition than WE find Ourselves in. Context is key. stay BlackNificent!

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seen !!! thats a good point
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