What do you think of propaganda?

[Akyeame Kwame]

"Those who will to transform destiny must first will to transform history."

Amos N. Wilson
in Blueprint for Black Power

[Jahness]

Greetings Everyone!

In my opinion propaganda can be good or bad, depending on what effect the person wants it to have on those that are reading it for example.

I think we need to make sure that we are in charge of our own propaganda.

The information we put out there should reflect the systematic need for our people to learn and understand their plight as an oppressed people, and what they need to do to help liberate themselves, and all people of Afrikan decent.

We need to make sure that the information that we spread is for the purpose of promoting the cause of our ultimate freedom.

[Akyeame Kwame]

"We must encourage our own black authors who have character, who are loyal to their race, who feel proud to be black, and in every way let them feel that we appreciate their efforts to advance our race through healthy and decent literature."

Nana Marcus Mosiah Garvey
"Negro World" September 29, 1928

[Warrior Princess]

Great question, beloved rebelafrika.

I lean more towards:
"Propaganda is a tool. It is people that give it a "good" or "bad" value."

Just like most things with life, it is what it is, but people tend to label it as either "good" or "bad". With this said, propoganda working against you is more than likely not "good" for you and propoganda working for you is more than likely "good" for you. (But then again, often what people think is "good" or even "bad" for them really might not necessarily be so... )

[Warrior Princess]

Propaganda means to propagate or to make know[n.] extensively some particular phase of human intelligence. The desire to convert or influence the people to the acceptance of the truth of the particular intelligence, that is sought to be spread in their midst.

Propoganda can be true o[r] false in its origin or intent, but it is always directed at the public for the purpose of winning the support of that public to the sentiment expressed in the propoganda.

If you hate a man, giving him a bad name well may explain one of the purposes of propoganda, without truth behind it.

Nearly all organized efforts have a system of propoganda to convert people to their principles to get them to support them even though there may be no merit behind it all.

Propoganda is all around you, to make you buy a special brand of cigarettes, although no good, advertised to be the best; to make you drink or use a certain brand of tea, telling of its wonderful qualities and its everlasting benefits when there is aboslutely nothing to it, and so on.

Before the war of 1914-1918, the Germans were known to be the most cultured and scientific people in Europe. When the war started, the other nation, so as to discredit the Germans and hold them up to world ridicule, and to the contempt of civilization, released the propoganda that classified the Germans as Huns and barbarians. This also reveals how organized intention can be carried to the public for the public acceptance without thought.

The press, the cinema, the pulpit, the schoolroom, are all propaganda agencies for one thing or the other. The pulpit carries on religious propoganda, the schoolroom carries on educational propoganda, the press carries on written propoganda, the platform carries on oral propoganda, the cinema carries on demonstrative propoganda. These methodshave been devised by the white man to spread his ideas universally among men, that is why he is able, in a major sense, to control the minds of the people of the world.

The white man is a great propagandaist. He realizes fully and completely the value of propoganda. You omust therefore, organize your propoganda to undo the propoganda of other people, if the propoganda affects your interest. The Bible is religious propoganda, the school book is literary propoganda, the novels and books you read are also literary propoganda, all calculated to bring about certain results beneficial to the propagandists.

Never forget then that you are surrounded in a world of propoganda, all dressed up or cooped up to suit a doubtful public who is not careful with what it digests as coming from without.

The artist is also a propagandist. He paints pictures to convey the idea he wants to impress upon the non-thinking and doubtful public. The sculptor is also a propagandist. He chisels figures and portrays them to suit the aim or purpose he wants to achieve. The pictures of the Madonna of Christ, and of the angels, is painted portraying a white race, so as to inflict upon the rest of the world that God, the angels and the Holy family are white as well as Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve were black.

They also paint the Devil and the imps of Hell black to impress the world that all that is black is evil and all that is white is good and holy.

Tear down from your walls all pictures, that do not glorify your race. Tear up and burn every bit of propoganda that does not carry your ideas of things. Treat it as trash.

When you go to the cinema and see the glorification of other in the pictures, don't accept it, don't believe it as true. Visualize yourself instead as if achieving whatsoever is presented and if possible organize your propoganda to that effect.

You should always match propaganda with propaganda. Have your own newspapers, have your own artists, have your own scuptors, have your own pulpits, have your own platforms, print your own books and show your own motion pictures, paint your own pictures and sculpture your own subjects. Never accept your subjects as of another race, but glorify all the good in yourselves.

Keep your homes free and clear of alien objects, of other races in glorification, otherwise your children will grow up to adore and glorify other people.

Put in the places of others the heroes and noble characters of your own race.

Never allow your children to play with and have white dolls, it will give them the idea of having white children themselves. GIve them the dolls of their own race to play with and they will grow up with the idea of race love and race purity.

Watch the newspapers daily, magazines and journals for propaganda against your race or your institutions and particuarly against the U.N.I.A. and rush into print immediately to defend your race and organizations from any attack. Never allow an insult propagated to go unanswered by you. Be ever vigilant to down anything by way of propaganda that dishonors or discredits you. Don't help the other fellow to carry on propaganda against yourself or your race. All propaganda comes from the arranged desires of individuals and not from a race as a whole. It is the thinkers and leaders who originate propaganda, and by insisting on its wide distribution they get other people to think as they like.

Don't accept the thoughts of others through propaganda except it coincides with yours. Don't follow the band down the street because it plays sweet music to the propaganda circus manager, he may lead you into the circus tent and take away your pocketbook, that is to say, don't get on anybody's bandwagon, because he may drive you to hell with the sweet music. Like the Pied Piper of Hamlin who played his sweet pipe and led the rats from out of the city into the sea and drowned them.

Propaganda organized by somebody else is always calculated to take advantage of you, don't help them to do so.

Always ask! "What is this about? What is the object of it? Who has sent it out? What is he aiming at? Will it hurt me and my face? Is he trying to get an advantage over me? Is it honesty? Is it true?"

If you ask these questions of every propaganda that comes up, before you swallow it, you will always be able to take care of yourself.

Don't sing the songs and repeat the praises that glorify other races, sing your own songs and receite your own praises that glorify your own race. As for instance, it is foolish for Negroes to sing or say "Britons never shall be slaves" when they themselves have been slaves are are likely be slaves if they don't impress upon their own minds that they as Negroes shall never be slaves again.

Sing, therefore, "Negroes never shall be slaes." Be careful how you sing religious hymns, written dished up and made popular by white writers to glorify the white race in the name of God, taking advantage of the silence of God to impress inferiority upon your race- such as "The great white wings of angels", "The white throne of God", "Wash me whiter than snow"- all these are damnably vicious propaganda against the black race. "Though my sins be scarlet, they be whiter than wool." "Wash me in the blood and I shall be whiter than snow." All these things reflect the propaganda designed of the white man to glorify his skin and his race as against the black imps of hell, and the black devil and the black pall of gloom. The idea of the white man making black a symbol of mourning and sadness is just to show the extreme of the purity of whiteness and its joy and happiness. Reverse it. If possible teach the Negro that when he is in mourning to wear white, and when he in joy to wear black. This is meeting propaganda with propaganda, the hatchet with the hatchet, the stick with the stick, the stone with the stone. Everything on earth is man's creation and so out of man's propagadanda and mind he has created his special systems of opinion to meet his designs.

Customs, therefore, are based upon the acceptance of propganda skillfully engineered. Have your own propaganda and hand it down the ages. Write your own poetry and recite it. Compose your own songs and sing them. Write your own interpretation of scripture and history and teach them as far as the interpretation of others affects your race.

Challenge the thought of any book or literature that dishonors or discredits you in any particular, and give it the widest publicity so as to undo the harm intended, remembering always that an error not corrected ultimately becomes a fact.

Never allow false statements of allegations against your race to become current and pass into history, as if it were a fact.


-Marcus Gavey
From "Life and Lessons"

[Nefertiti]

I say use as a "luring in" tool And then lets get with the truth,But I realise this method wont have to be used for everyone

[Kweku_Omowale]

yes! nana marcus garvey was right people! depends on how we use it,the enemy uses it to smear us and give us bad name,in positive light,should be tools of organizing as well,we should also use the masters tool agaisnt the masters as well

[Revolutionary_Student]

^^^Bump!^^^

[Blaq Beard]

Propoganda is to nationhood as marketing is to business: one of the most integral functions. You aint operating without it.

The name of the game has always been propaganda. With it, you can make you enemies think you are strong when you are not, or weak when youare strong.

Victory and strength is very much centered around perceptions management and the deploying of propoganda.

Many evil people use proganda in a negative manner to support their actions, but we will also use it when we reclaim our rightful place. This is expecially the cast if there is a sizable number of "them" left to be considered a threat.

All things in balance.

[Revolutionary_Student]

Originally Posted by Blaq Beard

Propoganda is to nationhood as marketing is to business: one of the most integral functions. You aint operating without it.

The name of the game has always been propaganda. With it, you can make you enemies think you are strong when you are not, or weak when youare strong.

Victory and strength is very much centered around perceptions management and the deploying of propoganda.

Many evil people use proganda in a negative manner to support their actions, but we will also use it when we reclaim our rightful place. This is expecially the cast if there is a sizable number of "them" left to be considered a threat.

All things in balance.

I agree with your point of view, especially the highlighted part above. Marcus Garvey said it best but you hit it on the head also comrade.

[Blaq Beard]

Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Student

I agree with your point of view, especially the highlighted part above. Marcus Garvey said it best but you hit it on the head also comrade.

With all the new tech out here, we can deploy some nasty proganda to serve our needs. Broadband is almost everywhere, software is damn near free, and online communities are full of young creative propaganda specialists/soldiers ready to start influencing minds in our favor. I say lets do it.

Too many medians exist for us not to be running this country, perceptions wise, on the street level.

And then you combine that with all these yt children that hate thier parents? Hey.... deploy them. Alot of wonderful opppurtunities exist and we just got to began to move!

[advanced]

Originally Posted by Blaq Beard

With all the new tech out here, we can deploy some nasty proganda to serve our needs. Broadband is almost everywhere, software is damn near free, and online communities are full of young creative propaganda specialists/soldiers ready to start influencing minds in our favor. I say lets do it.

Too many medians exist for us not to be running this country, perceptions wise, on the street level.

And then you combine that with all these yt children that hate thier parents? Hey.... deploy them. Alot of wonderful opppurtunities exist and we just got to began to move!

OK. HOW DO WE BEGIN?

[SoularFlarez]

Originally Posted by Nefertiti

I say use as a "luring in" tool And then lets get with the truth,But I realise this method wont have to be used for everyone

yeah... gotta make da medicine TASTE like koolaid so people will drink it...


think of one of tha elders speaking about say uhhhh ECONOMICS.... a classic speech.... spoken over the C.R.E.A.M. (wutang) beat... it could be somethin small. draw on small ($1, $5, $10 ) bills.... i make george washington look like vampire with red eyees n blood drippin out his mouth....

[Markezeh]

We need to use propaganda. Its our shield and its our weapon, at times it will be the only thing that we have to fight with for we continue to live in a world controlled by it, and we've been the victim of it for centuries ever since the first day we met the European until this day. Through propaganda we've been taught to hate ourselves, to not believe in our own capabilities as a people.

The most obvious evidence, can be seen on the skins and heads of far too many of our people for we have judged our own beauty by comparison with the physiognomy of the slave master. What should be our shame is paraded as pride. Try to tell a mentally enslaved Afrikan that we were once a great people, who made great contributions to this civilization aside from our own even greater ancient civilizations that we created, and you can feel the skepticism, even if you don't hear it from their lips you can see it on their faces.

This is what enemy propaganda has done to us. It has taught us to see the worst in ourselves and the best in others (especially in our enemies). Its a matter of necessity for us to launch a counter propaganda campaign wherever we are and with each opportunity and at all times, if we are to have a chance at saving this black race of ours.

Warriors please go to the following site and check out this video clip, its a scary thing
Video: Most Controversial Show: Tyra Banks Show - Black Women & Their Children Bleaching Their Skin [Full Episode] Video

[MsLioness]

I think we should propagandize as much as possible. BTW---you got sum?