Ethnic Cleansing necessary for progress?

[Kefentse_Bandele]

the mass expulsion and killing of one ethic or religious group in an area by another ethnic or religious group in that area

There are known sell-outs and agents in the Afrikan communities in

amurdikkka. People who have aborted our revolutionary efforts and

sabotaged our movements. Our leaders have been imprisoned and murdered

in cold blood. Our communities are more terrorized by people who look like us

than not. The bottom line with this entity is comfortability, familiarity and a

deep down love for their white slave masters way of life. Some our people

will dive in front of a bullets for the white power structure. I just feel some of

us are gonna have to die. I feel it is unrealistic to assume that EVERY

Afrikan or black face is on my side.

Europe sorta solved this problem by opening her jail doors and allowing her

prisoners and scoundrels to establish order around the world. What would be

an Afrikan solution?

My question to the Forum:

Do you think ethnic cleanising among Afrikan people will be necessary in order for Afrikan people to establish TRUE liberation and nationhood?

Uhuru

[Kefentse_Bandele]

Who would be the first to go?

[rebelAfrika]

I don't like the term "ethnic cleansing" due to it's origin and how it was utilized as a euphamism for something much worse than the name implies.

[Nefertiti]

We need something like a RUDE AWAKENING! to open up some of our people's third eye they have no idea they possess and really see

[Kentake]

Who would be the first to go?

I ELECT CONDO-LEASE-HER RICE AS THE 1ST ON THE EXECUTION LIST.

[Elisa Keisha]

as rebelafrika said I dont think "ethnic cleanising is the best term.... we are talkin about enemies-sellouts, not about a whole ethnia

[Kefentse_Bandele]

WOW u voted yes for ethnic cleasening!!!

Thats horrible

damn Hitler also said ethnic cleasing was neccessary for the liberation of Germany...such extreme beliefs are dangerous

This is because you dont overstand the context im usin' this term in. I am

not talking about randomly walking around killing other Afrikan people based

on assumptions. Im talkin about a mentality & a way of life that the people

are not willing to let go of. I dont have the illusion that all Afrikan people will

be magically freed or spared. I have studied history to well to know what

this element among us have contributed to the plight of the european. If I

was to march on a drug house, and the tenants wouldnt cease their activity,

then it would be warfare in the streets. There is only so march marchin' can

do...dont even get me started on that 1. Sometimes u gotta be willing to

take a physical approach. Raqin as a muslim, im sure plenty of your brothers

support this idea...

Uhuru

[Escobar]

This is because you dont overstand the context im usin' this term in. I am

not talking about randomly walking around killing other Afrikan people based

on assumptions. Im talkin about a mentality & a way of life that the people

are not willing to let go of. I dont have the illusion that all Afrikan people will

be magically freed or spared. I have studied history to well to know what

this element among us have contributed to the plight of the european. If I

was to march on a drug house, and the tenants wouldnt cease their activity,

then it would be warfare in the streets. There is only so march marchin' can

do...dont even get me started on that 1. Sometimes u gotta be willing to

take a physical approach. Raqin as a muslim, im sure plenty of your brothers

support this idea...

Uhuru

ok yea i know ...........well i saw the pictures of the skulls and genocide and it threw me off

hmmm maybe i should read more before i respond

[Kefentse_Bandele]

yes that would be wise sir...

Uhuru

[Need-to-know]

Bro. K_B, I don't think it's very productive to talk so much about black bootlickers because we should be focusing more on how we as a black worldly collective can start rebuilding ourselves spiritually, economically, socially, politically, and etc. I'll admit betrayal is a cold thing, but I believe it is much more beneficial to our collective to focus on building. Most people that think, "what about the black traiters!?!?!" tend to to be very disloyal to their own black people and use that as an excuse to hug non-afrikan genetalia (uh no, it's just the europeans that fuck us over!)... Betrayers will show up when the time is right, and when they do just drop em from membership or pop em with a bullet to the head. Not much thinking about alien ass-kissers has to be produced when it comes to dealing with em because more of our thinking power will have to be directed on how to unite and rebuild ourselves.

Just think about it... You notice how all the other non-afrikan groups in this united snakkkes move forward??? It's in huge part because they don't think so much about traiters; they think more on building their communities. (even though they do benefit off our subjugation.)

[Kefentse_Bandele]

Bro. K_B, I don't think it's very productive to talk so much about black bootlickers because we should be focusing more on how we as a black worldly collective can start rebuilding ourselves spiritually, economically, socially, politically, and etc. I'll admit betrayal is a cold thing, but I believe it is much more beneficial to our collective to focus on building. Most people that think, "what about the black traiters!?!?!" tend to to be very disloyal to their own black people and use that as an excuse to hug non-afrikan genetalia (uh no, it's just the europeans that fuck us over!)... Betrayers will show up when the time is right, and when they do just drop em from membership or pop em with a bullet to the head. Not much thinking about alien ass-kissers has to be produced when it comes to dealing with em because more of our thinking power will have to be directed on how to unite and rebuild ourselves.

Just think about it... You notice how all the other non-afrikan groups in this united snakkkes move forward??? It's in huge part because they don't think so much about traiters; they think more on building their communities. (even though they do benefit off our subjugation.)

I overstand that very well. I also understand that no other groups condition is or ever was comparable to ours. I feel our plight for liberation jeopardizes the power those established groups posses. And agents/sell outs or what have you understand this very well. Check the history of our insurrections, rebellions and independent movements. At who's hands were they physically eventually crushed by? Ask Amilcar Cabral, Nat Turner, Lumumba, Malcolm, Assata etc...

Uhuru

[Erzulie Danto]

Brother Bandele,

with all due respect, i feel the pictures you are using to illustrate your point are brutal examples of intra-Afrikan violence are extremely tragic and you should refrain from posting them so casually. as a Haitian whose family fled this type of violence, these images crush my spirit and makes me wonder if white supremacy has indeed murdered the beauty of our souls.

also i think the use of the term "ethnic cleansing" is irresponsible as the word has a genocidal weight beyond your attempt at redefinition and esp since it most often we or brown people who are victims to ethnic cleansing at the hands of yt. and more recently and sadly at the hands of our own people (ie Sudan, Rwanda, Congo...) members of my family and community have been tortured, raped and murdered because someone decided they were "enemies" representing the wrong side. these terms are not metaphors for all of us, but for some these images and words point to real gutwrenching experiences. and none of us should be using pictures of dead Afrikans out of context. this is a dehumanizing act as those killed and left so carelessly unburied are our brothers and sisters. who are these people? where did this happen? what is going on? who did these things and why? there are many on this forum who are not educated on these events and circumstances, so we should be informing and offering our sympathies and working on solutions. are we so desensitized that we can use these images of our dead for shock value or to propell a hypothetical internet conversation?

and why the blood lust? why should we name who we would kill first etc? i'm sorry but this thread is disturbing to me. i overstand the need for self defense but listing those to be murdered, fantasy or no, reminds me too much of our enemies brutal systematic desire for death. we should not look forward to killing with excitement and bravado. when the time comes, our Warriors will act accordingly and discreetly. somethings should be discussed (within enclosed Warrior ciphers) with a seriousness and respect that this public thread does not imply.

i hope you will see the value in my offering and read my words with open heart and Afrikan mind.
may we never have to see these evils with our own eyes. Ancestors bless.
Uhuru.

[Kimani]

i think i agree that "ethnic cleansing" is the wrong word here, too loaded. we probably will have to "engage" those who look like us "aggressively," but Harold Cruse advised us...how can we expect "peaceful ends" from "violent means"...what are we left with at the end of the day? in terms of culture? in terms of the people who conducted the "ethnic cleansing"?...America is the perfect example of what a culture that advocates, nurtures violence looks like when its all said and done...we have to be careful when we advocate "violence" and who we advocate "violence" toward...maybe a hard pill to swallow but Cruse did give us something useful to contemplate...if one of our goals is some semblance of "harmony" or "peace," (even if only among ourselves) then violence in the form of "ethnic cleansing" is a highly questionable tactic...maybe as a last resort, certainly not a first one...the people who terrorize our communities must be dealt with...i'm not exactly sure how though, especially since they appear to be the ones with the sophisticated weapons and "power" (see condee rice, colin powell and the likes, many leaders of African governments), probably as the sistah above mentioned...in secret and after much contemplation...

[Kefentse_Bandele]

Brother Bandele,

with all due respect, i feel the pictures you are using to illustrate your point are brutal examples of intra-Afrikan violence are extremely tragic and you should refrain from posting them so casually. as a Haitian whose family fled this type of violence, these images crush my spirit and makes me wonder if white supremacy has indeed murdered the beauty of our souls.

also i think the use of the term "ethnic cleansing" is irresponsible as the word has a genocidal weight beyond your attempt at redefinition and esp since it most often we or brown people who are victims to ethnic cleansing at the hands of yt. and more recently and sadly at the hands of our own people (ie Sudan, Rwanda, Congo...) members of my family and community have been tortured, raped and murdered because someone decided they were "enemies" representing the wrong side. these terms are not metaphors for all of us, but for some these images and words point to real gutwrenching experiences. and none of us should be using pictures of dead Afrikans out of context. this is a dehumanizing act as those killed and left so carelessly unburied are our brothers and sisters. who are these people? where did this happen? what is going on? who did these things and why? there are many on this forum who are not educated on these events and circumstances, so we should be informing and offering our sympathies and working on solutions. are we so desensitized that we can use these images of our dead for shock value or to propell a hypothetical internet conversation?

and why the blood lust? why should we name who we would kill first etc? i'm sorry but this thread is disturbing to me. i overstand the need for self defense but listing those to be murdered, fantasy or no, reminds me too much of our enemies brutal systematic desire for death. we should not look forward to killing with excitement and bravado. when the time comes, our Warriors will act accordingly and discreetly. somethings should be discussed (within enclosed Warrior ciphers) with a seriousness and respect that this public thread does not imply.

i hope you will see the value in my offering and read my words with open heart and Afrikan mind.
may we never have to see these evils with our own eyes. Ancestors bless.
Uhuru.

I sincerly apoplogize sista if I have insulted you, your fam or any of our fam

on the forum. I hope you all know I used those photos as a reference for

what the topic was about and didnt intend to incite anything on a people. I

have removed the pictures from this post and I hope we can continue to

repectfully dialogue about this topic. Sista Erzulie I especially sincerly

apologize to you and your fam.

Uhuru

[GoodRain]

Soul, spirit, or mind cleansing would seem far more appropriate. Ethnically cleansing sounds racist.