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US Military Manuals on How to Defeat Liberation Movements(Counter-Insugency)

US Military Manuals on How to Defeat Liberation Movements(Counter-Insugency)

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Since the US defeat in Viet Nam, the Imperialists have come to realize that no longer will their greatest adversary be countries with Military Forces capable of fighting a Conventional War against the US as in WWII etc. They recognized that the new greatest threat to their dominance would be Liberation Movements of the world's Oppressed and Colonized Peoples. People that have no standing Armys, Navys, and Air Forces to wage war 'Conventionally', but would utilize 'Unconventional' warfare otherwise known as Guerrilla Warfare. This is why the US Army Special Forces(Green Berets)was formulated, to COUNTER these INSURGENCYS, to fight those that fight Unconventially, TO FIGHT US!

The premise of this type of Warfare is not to engage the enemy, but to evade and ambush, thus wearing down the enemy. It is often referred to as the 'War of the Flea"(coined by Robert Taber with a book out of the same name). The small flea attacks the large dog but the dog can never engage the flea because the flea strikes then relocates to a new location before the dog can attack. Then the flea strikes again and again, eventually exhauting the dog, lowering his morale, disorienting him, causing him to act frantically. This combined with a Protracted People's Movement eventually concludes in Victory.
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Question: Does it seem from what you know about the battles in Iraq, in Falujah in particular, that the US has learned how to combat the urban guerilla?
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Question: Does it seem from what you know about the battles in Iraq, in Falujah in particular, that the US has learned how to combat the urban guerilla?
As far as Fallujah, the US made a mistake. They gained a Military victory, which is no big task considering their Military strength, but turned more of the civilian population to the side of the Guerrillas with their arrogant heavy-handedness. Some of the top Sunni clerics called for civilians to support the Guerrillas, and called for a boycott of the elections if the US attacked Fallujah. Their arrogance is going to be their downfall in their Global War Against the World's Oppressed and Colonized People's they call the 'War on Terrorism'. The US doesn't have the morals and decency to win and keep the Hearts and Minds of the People. How can they when they look at People of Color as subhuman. As long as the Guerrillas have the support of the People, they still have a fighting chance. But at the same time the Guerrillas need to be putting in work to win the Hearts and Minds of the Masses as well and avoiding civilan casualties as much as possible.

The US Military has a long tradition of Military Conquest which they take very seriously. They have War Colleges and Think Tanks where all they study is Strategy and Tactics for Warfare, ie Military Science, its actually a Degree. They study all the Wars they have been in, as well as others, analyze them, and point out their successes and mistakes, strengths and weaknesses, then adjust accordingly.

They engage in many Wars just for the purpose of Training and Testing new technologies and tactics. You have civilian Martial Arts Schools that train in techniques through repetitive drills, then apply them in 'live' simulations called sparring, many may even enter tournaments. But imagine a school that goes out in the street and starts fights, just to test their skills in a truly live situation (Fight Club). Thats what the US does. They are the Perfect Killing Machine, the most powerful Military Force in Human History.

Now I'm not riding their jock, but I acknowledge my enemy's strengths, to do otherwise is suicide. But I acknowledge their weaknesses as well. What makes the US Military so powerful is their technology. It is a crutch, they rely on it too heavily, so it is also a weakness. If it was back to spears, shields, and swords, there would be no Euro-North American-Zionist Empire. Another weakness is their arrogance. They underestimate the creativity and will of the world's Oppressed and Colonized People's Freedom Fighters. They are the 'Paper Tiger' like Mao said.

Up until the 90's the US was still emphasizing warfare on a Conventional Level due to the Cold War with the Soviet Union. They looked at Guerrilla Wars, or Small Wars, as just something to deal with, not to be taken too seriously, yet they did study them. They basically relied on the US Marine Corp and Army Special Forces to deal with them. But for the past decade+ they have put more emphasis as a complete Military Force in egagement in these types of Wars. So it is still new to them, they are still making mistakes but are learning from them as they go. Each "Small War" is unique.

Their main strategy in fighting a Guerrilla War is by attacking the Guerrilla's support base, which is the population. They do this through 'Pacification'. They struggle to win the hearts and minds of the Masses just like the Guerrilla. They implement different Social Programs (Survival Programs) just like the Guerilla. They provide food and provisions for the People and help build the infrastructure just like the Guerrilla. Here in the US they implement Police Kids baseball leagues, etc, as well as a program called Operation Weed and Seed.

In this program, local governments with a high crime rate can apply to the Federal Government for assistance. In turn the local govt gets resources to fight the crime. The local Weed and Seed area comes under Federal jurisdiction and Federal Police occupy the area along side of the local law enforcement. They pull the "WEEDS" or criminal element and plant "SEEDS" or community development programs with federal dollars. The community never see's most of this money, the Feds bring more drugs in to entrap People then give them a slap on the wrist if they become Informers for them, so they can go after the 'BIG FISH'. This tactic is called IDENTIFICATION, which works in conjuction with PACIFICATION. Make arrests and get as much of the community's People Identified and on the books as possible by processing them through the Criminal Justice System. Now you have a community with an intricate 'Snitch' Network. Mind you, over 75% of Operation Weed and Seed is located in Black and Latino Communities. Here in Atlanta its in parts of Marietta and East Point, last I checked. So the WEEDS or Criminal Element are not only the Drug dealers but the 'Trouble Makers' or Revolutionaries as well. Everything they are doing overseas they are doing right here, as we are a Domestic Colony, a powder keg waiting to explode, and they recognize the War for Freedom that we have been fighting with them since we were taken captive. But Operation Weed and Seed is an entire new discussion in itself.

Don't be surprised when you see a drug problem among the Iraqi population. They used it on us for the purpose of destabilization. Again, if you can't get the fish, contaminate the water they subsist off.
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Tua for taking the time to respond is such detail Atef

I agree with your assessment. With all that they spend and do to perfect their ability to kill you cannot help but have great respect for the NLF in Vietnam and the guerillas fighting in Iraq.

The US fundementally misunderstands the most fundemental aspect of winning a war - THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. The citizens of the USA are made through propaganda to believe that they have an interest in these wars yet through all of these lies they know intrinsicly that they do not benefit from fighting for Amerikkka. A calculated error was made in staging the attacks on 9/11 which they thought would galvanize the level of support needed for these wars of conquest across the globe. It didn't work. It would seem a significant number of their soldiers do not WANT to fight/ don't know or aren't sure what they are fighting for - this is deadly. For the guerilla knows deep down to the bottom of his why he is fighting and so NO force, NO technology, NO wicked act on the part of thier enemy can deter them. If it was uncovered that a 100 or 200 US soldiers were killed at once in a battle in Fallujah this war would be over.

Ho Chi Minh said "you will kill ten of our men and we will kill one of yours and it will be you that tires of this"!!!
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The united snakkkes underestimates the power of nationalism. Bush has to operate off of false premises such as "they are jealous of our freedom" because his constituency are political incompetents, and they eat that lie up, but when you get back to the root of the argument, you see that all the points used to build the argument are irrelevant because it is flawed at the root. So the empire grows...and it is impressive...but it doesn't change the objective truth, that the empire is built on a foundation of "sand"....and as "big" and as "beautiful" as it is, it WILL FALL...and fantasizing, and wishing and hoping and praying for an "eternal amerikkka" can do nothing to save it.
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A very interesting discussion . I might add that in my opinion Cuba has the best foot soldiers in the world and this has been demonstrated in Angola , where regrettably our brothers were running away from the white south african ( and I really hate to refer to them as South Africans , but it only for identification ) troops . But the Cubans stood their ground and repelled these crackers time after time . This is why the U S Corporate Mafia government has not invaded Cuba , the cost in Amerikkkan lives would prove to be too high .

The North Koreans also possess a formidable special forces capability that could match the Amerikkkans toe-to-toe . Forget the Amerikkkan propaganda , the North Koreans have nearly 100 nuclear weapons ! And they can reach California and the entire west coast , plus the heartland of the U S . These crackers will never attack anyone that can put up a decent fight , unless the Jews can trick them into attacking another Iraq .

I believe that just one nuclear explosion in any Amerikkkan city will end this reign of terror . As a matter of conjecture , I predict just that ; a devestating nuclear explosion in Washington , D C within the next ten years from an unknown attacker , a suitcase weapon .That's why it's important for us , Pan Africanists , to return home or certainly have our children return to Africa this decade . We have already lost too many millions of African genes that will never see the light of day because of these devils .
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A very interesting discussion . I might add that in my opinion Cuba has the best foot soldiers in the world and this has been demonstrated in Angola , where regrettably our brothers were running away from the white south african ( and I really hate to refer to them as South Africans , but it only for identification ) troops . But the Cubans stood their ground and repelled these crackers time after time . This is why the U S Corporate Mafia government has not invaded Cuba , the cost in Amerikkkan lives would prove to be too high .

The North Koreans also possess a formidable special forces capability that could match the Amerikkkans toe-to-toe . Forget the Amerikkkan propaganda , the North Koreans have nearly 100 nuclear weapons ! And they can reach California and the entire west coast , plus the heartland of the U S . These crackers will never attack anyone that can put up a decent fight , unless the Jews can trick them into attacking another Iraq .

I believe that just one nuclear explosion in any Amerikkkan city will end this reign of terror . As a matter of conjecture , I predict just that ; a devestating nuclear explosion in Washington , D C within the next ten years from an unknown attacker , a suitcase weapon .That's why it's important for us , Pan Africanists , to return home or certainly have our children return to Africa this decade . We have already lost too many millions of African genes that will never see the light of day because of these devils .
I feel you Spear. As far as technological advancement and its arsenal, the US is powerful. But when it comes to putting boots on the ground, they have no heart. We saw that in Vietnam. Despite their technology, they couldn't compete with the Vietnamese Freedom Fighters, many fighting with outdated equipment.

They know this, which is why they are relying so much on their technology through their superior artillery and air power in Iraq. I believe this is why they will not be able to Pacify Iraq. They are causing too many civilian casualties with their shock and awe tactics, refusing to get their infantry into the dirt, to do true policing. They want to avoid high casualties on their side. This is causing them to loose what little support and cooperation they had among the People.

Like you said, they can't take a real fight, despite their extensive hardware. Their not going to fukk with North Korea or China, and if Iran gets their Nuclear capabilities together, they'll avoid them as well. But even if North Korea and China didn't have Nuclear Arms, I think they would still avoid a confrontation with them. Again, the US soldiers have no heart. Their not fighting for Freedom for themselves. Their families and property are home safe and sound. Its easy to break the will of the US fighting force. Technology is only as effective as the soldiers using it.

Just because a country has a powerful Military Force doesn't make them invincible. Look at the African Freedom Fighters of Haiti and the French during the Haitian Revolution. The French had the most powerful Military Force at that time with Napoleon. And the Haitians wooped them. Shit, look at the post the Battle of St. Pete. We wooped the US military then. Never forget, that the Police are merely a domestic, local extension of the Military.

And I also question the idea of us remaining in this country. Don't want Africans to catch no stray bullets (airplanes or nukes for that matter) that are meant for the Imperialists.
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I was just thinking how the US reminds me of Mike Tyson. Powerful Brawler, but couldn't stand getting hit, and couldn't really go the distance.
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Since the US defeat in Viet Nam, the Imperialists have come to realize that no longer will their greatest adversary be countries with Military Forces capable of fighting a Conventional War against the US as in WWII etc. They recognized that the new greatest threat to their dominance would be Liberation Movements of the world's Oppressed and Colonized Peoples. People that have no standing Armys, Navys, and Air Forces to wage war 'Conventionally', but would utilize 'Unconventional' warfare otherwise known as Guerrilla Warfare. This is why the US Army Special Forces(Green Berets)was formulated, to COUNTER these INSURGENCYS, to fight those that fight Unconventially, TO FIGHT US!

The premise of this type of Warfare is not to engage the enemy, but to evade and ambush, thus wearing down the enemy. It is often referred to as the 'War of the Flea"(coined by Robert Taber with a book out of the same name). The small flea attacks the large dog but the dog can never engage the flea because the flea strikes then relocates to a new location before the dog can attack. Then the flea strikes again and again, eventually exhauting the dog, lowering his morale, disorienting him, causing him to act frantically. This combined with a Protracted People's Movement eventually concludes in Victory.


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I've been watching the yankees in IRAQ I tell you what apart from aerial bombing and bribes to iraqi uncle toms they aint doing shit.In a ground to ground fight they normally lose the only time they win when they bring the heavies tanks,air raids,heavy artillery.The iraqis early on used put fire on them and used to try and kill em in one blow (conventional warfare) but the crackers used to call for the heavies and the iraqis will get blown apart.But now the iraqis now know even if they got the cracker beat shoot & move (guerilla warfare).So know the cracker has to infiltrate more and he's scared death plus he aint gonna win no hearts and minds apart from the kurds.


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