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expounding on the BLACK PANTHER PARTY

expounding on the BLACK PANTHER PARTY

The Black Panther Party was one of the first organizations in U.S. history to militantly struggle for ethnic minority and working class emancipation — a party whose agenda was the revolutionary establishment of real economic, social, and political equality across gender and color lines.

Black Panther Theory:
The practices of the late Malcolm X were deeply rooted in the theoretical foundations of the Black Panther Party. Malcolm had represented both a militant revolutionary, with the dignity and self-respect to stand up and fight to win equality for all oppressed minorities; while also being an outstanding role model, someone who sought to bring about positive social services; something the Black Panthers would take to new heights. The Panthers followed Malcolm's belief of international working class unity across the spectrum of color and gender, and thus united with various minority and white revolutionary groups. From the tenets of Maoism they set the role of their Party as the vanguard of the revolution and worked to establish a united front, while from Marxism they addressed the capitalist economic system, embraced the theory of dialectical materialism, and represented the need for all workers to forcefully take over the means of production. The party distinguished its self from Cultural Nationalist, such as the United Slaves Oganization, a group that promoted the return of old afrikan culture to reestablish identity and freedom from western influence, labeling them as reactionary nationalist. Mumia Abu-Jamal quotes Huey in his Book "We Want Freedom"calling cultural nationalism, "Reaction to instead of responding to political oppression. In other words, they feel that Afrikan culture will automatically bring about political freedom"

The revolutionary's only weapon is unity. Unity is a vital force in any revolution. I'm skeptical of international revolution because it stretches the Afrikan revolutionary base too thin and rallies foreign opposition to the cause. However, we must address the factors that splinter Afrikans against Afrikans by promoting intercultural revolution. If we take the notion of the panthers international revolution and apply in the same manner within our community it would decrease the instances of inter-organizational conflict. The adjectives that define our beliefs, political position, cultural affiliation will no longer be a factor of unity or a tool of division. Defining or limiting our revolution against oppression with social prerequisite and personal presumptions is counter productive. There should not be an assimilation to the ideology or assassination mentality present within the revolutionary base. We must remain a collective that trains it's members an affiliates to manifest change and not to manifest carbon copy's of an assimilated ideology. We are at war, War is a conflict involving the organized use of weapons and physical force by states or other large-scale groups. The key word is organized, organizing entails the strategic mobilization to launch offenses. In order for us to launch effective strategic offenses or defenses we need every man with sincere passion for his people to participate. This requires drawing together in unified activism, not an ideological consensus. The ill effects of this was proven by the split and fall of the Panther Party. I welcome any challenges to this theory.
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We must also pay attention to the mis-takes done by the BPP,ZANU-PF,FRELIMO,etc so that we learn our lesson.


I do agree that a political power is a necessity in this day and age but it has to be of our creation,not a dark/afrikan face on a white/european ideology....

In order to combat those that come against our people(and the world in general) in this world,we have to think like them to counter their moves...which means that we may have to have some 'sattelite' members that do not know all of the details (in case they snitch) but are trying to infiltrate the system to get back at us and tell us what the deal is...I honestly do not see any real 'revolutionaries' taking power in any country unless that is one of their ulterior motives in the first place (infiltration).

I would also recommend that if such a thing is to be manifested that our actions in doing so are not made so that we draw the wrong kind of attention (ie media,and therefore governmenttal) and such...in this day and age the one world government can track your activity in any part of the world and frame you if they find you suspicious....which means we will have to come up with the following:

coded phrases and terminology,not just basic words,

coded passwords and phrases (and possibly locations) to find the snitchs.

plans of action for the present and future,

a stockpile of resources for those of us who need it...meaning all of us..

a program (of deprogramming) that would find and solve the INTERNAL CONFLICTS that arise when people get together..which is often capitalised on by those who wish to see our defeat.

Another program to stabilize the unstable polarization WITHIN our people in this world so that we may implement it to the people in the general world..

basically an effective way to defeat the 'enemy' within so that we can handle the 'enemy' without..

I know that the above concept(stopping divisions within) sounds flawed, and it is,Malcolm X said it best that we need to forget our differences and unite,but those very same differences are capitalized on by the 'others' and used against us...

I could go one but you get what I am saying.

It may not be wise to be organized in the exact same manner that was around in the 60's with the flamboyant marches,stores that say our names to attract our people,etc.Lets make it all about action and not writing and speeches,we have to be inconspicuos while organizing our own before we move forward.

I am not clear as to how we will handle ourselves in this world politically speaking,you could put black/afrikan folk in the white house/E.U./etc but if they are not 'in tune' with us than what is the point? We can gain political power in this world by controlling our resources (see blackwallstreet as an example) and since the 'man' is after our resources as you read this he would face a roadblock they would later remove by violence or by DIVIDE and CONQUER and later ISOLATE and NEUTRALIZE.
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I think what you are saying has some validaty but ideology, philosophy, culture, or whatever you call it is of high importance. Kwame Nkrumah once said, "It is essential that we know what we fight, and why we fight" and "Practice without thought is blind; thought without practice is empty." How can you have no ideology and have organization? How can there be unity which no ideology?


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The revolutionary's only weapon is unity. Unity is a vital force in any revolution. I'm skeptical of international revolution because it stretches the Afrikan revolutionary base too thin and rallies foreign opposition to the cause. However, we must address the factors that splinter Afrikans against Afrikans by promoting intercultural revolution. If we take the notion of the panthers international revolution and apply in the same manner within our community it would decrease the instances of inter-organizational conflict. The adjectives that define our beliefs, political position, cultural affiliation will no longer be a factor of unity or a tool of division. Defining or limiting our revolution against oppression with social prerequisite and personal presumptions is counter productive. There should not be an assimilation to the ideology or assassination mentality present within the revolutionary base. We must remain a collective that trains it's members an affiliates to manifest change and not to manifest carbon copy's of an assimilated ideology. We are at war, War is a conflict involving the organized use of weapons and physical force by states or other large-scale groups. The key word is organized, organizing entails the strategic mobilization to launch offenses. In order for us to launch effective strategic offenses or defenses we need every man with sincere passion for his people to participate. This requires drawing together in unified activism, not an ideological consensus. The ill effects of this was proven by the split and fall of the Panther Party. I welcome any challenges to this theory.
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We must also pay attention to the mis-takes done by the BPP,ZANU-PF,FRELIMO,etc so that we learn our lesson.. . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .

I would also recommend that if such a thing is to be manifested that our actions in doing so are not made so that we draw the wrong kind of attention (ie media,and therefore governmenttal) and such...in this day and age the one world government can track your activity in any part of the world and frame you if they find you suspicious....which means we will have to come up with the following:

coded phrases and terminology,not just basic words,

coded passwords and phrases (and possibly locations) to find the snitchs.

plans of action for the present and future,

a stockpile of resources for those of us who need it...meaning all of us..

a program (of deprogramming) that would find and solve the INTERNAL CONFLICTS that arise when people get together..which is often capitalised on by those who wish to see our defeat.

Another program to stabilize the unstable polarization WITHIN our people in this world so that we may implement it to the people in the general world..

basically an effective way to defeat the 'enemy' within so that we can handle the 'enemy' without... . . . . .

It may not be wise to be organized in the exact same manner that was around in the 60's with the flamboyant marches,stores that say our names to attract our people,etc.Lets make it all about action and not writing and speeches,we have to be inconspicuos while organizing our own before we move forward.

I am not clear as to how we will handle ourselves in this world politically speaking,you could put black/afrikan folk in the white house/E.U./etc but if they are not 'in tune' with us than what is the point?
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Now IMAGE with me on the possiblity, the probability the inevitability that yurugu must cease to exist. . . . imagine it experiencing it's own destruction via the reflection of its destructive energies. . . . imagine us being healthy enuf to do EXCATLY what you are proposing: neutralize the enemy within in order to "disappear" the enemies without. . . .

Everything in our physical world was a thought at one point in time -- and before that it was just an "imagined" idea.. . . . we are only as liberated as we see ourselves to be! So. . . what if our insistence on claiming yurugu in any form fashion ["our enemy", "our destroyer", etc.] is giving it the fundamental power to continue as it is? We are as Powerful as our First Ancestors -- now all we have to do is "see" that truth in our individual lives. . . and go kick some yt butt on General Principle!

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We should think like a corporation

And keep all top secret projects under wraps for the most part and never speak of every tactic.

We do need a spokes person or to and a few main face to put a personality that would welcome other newer members to bring together an united front.

As Malcolm X push the Nation of Islam we should have some one to push the movement.

Today there is no faces in the media to let people know that there is a struggle for the greater good of our people so people just give up hope and thing all that could have been done was accomplised in the 60's.

Our movement should come off with a peaceful out look inorder to keep a harsh distructive outside eye won't think to much of us until it's to late.

In saying this cooler heads should be the outward appearance to more some of our more fearful family and most dangerous opposition.

As was said earlier a code of silents and many different coverups much like the country they we are at odds with.

Most of all if we want a certain way of governing our country we must govern ourselves and our people and start our own nation in the mist of the whole of the preasent one.
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Jaboom has the right idea here. A unified nation within a nation is one state we need to reach before overthrowing the amerikkkan government. Without ensuring our own stablility the people will not believe that we can govern ourselves, and everyone will just fall back to depending on yt to take care of us.
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We Need a Political Front

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We must also pay attention to the mis-takes done by the BPP,ZANU-PF,FRELIMO,etc so that we learn our lesson.


I do agree that a political power is a necessity in this day and age but it has to be of our creation,not a dark/afrikan face on a white/european ideology....

In order to combat those that come against our people(and the world in general) in this world,we have to think like them to counter their moves...which means that we may have to have some 'sattelite' members that do not know all of the details (in case they snitch) but are trying to infiltrate the system to get back at us and tell us what the deal is...I honestly do not see any real 'revolutionaries' taking power in any country unless that is one of their ulterior motives in the first place (infiltration).

I would also recommend that if such a thing is to be manifested that our actions in doing so are not made so that we draw the wrong kind of attention (ie media,and therefore governmenttal) and such...in this day and age the one world government can track your activity in any part of the world and frame you if they find you suspicious....which means we will have to come up with the following:

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coded passwords and phrases (and possibly locations) to find the snitchs.

plans of action for the present and future,

a stockpile of resources for those of us who need it...meaning all of us..

a program (of deprogramming) that would find and solve the INTERNAL CONFLICTS that arise when people get together..which is often capitalised on by those who wish to see our defeat.

Another program to stabilize the unstable polarization WITHIN our people in this world so that we may implement it to the people in the general world..

basically an effective way to defeat the 'enemy' within so that we can handle the 'enemy' without..

I know that the above concept(stopping divisions within) sounds flawed, and it is,Malcolm X said it best that we need to forget our differences and unite,but those very same differences are capitalized on by the 'others' and used against us...

I could go one but you get what I am saying.

It may not be wise to be organized in the exact same manner that was around in the 60's with the flamboyant marches,stores that say our names to attract our people,etc.Lets make it all about action and not writing and speeches,we have to be inconspicuos while organizing our own before we move forward.

I am not clear as to how we will handle ourselves in this world politically speaking,you could put black/afrikan folk in the white house/E.U./etc but if they are not 'in tune' with us than what is the point? We can gain political power in this world by controlling our resources (see blackwallstreet as an example) and since the 'man' is after our resources as you read this he would face a roadblock they would later remove by violence or by DIVIDE and CONQUER and later ISOLATE and NEUTRALIZE.

When we study Brother Malcolm very carefully, we will notice that he advocated the establishment of political fronts to the effect that we avoid airing our political, religious and other differences in public. That we dis-agree is a given. But, we should deal with our differences in the context of private settings, not public. Brother Malcolm spoke of how a family is considered un-civilized and uncouth when they fight out on the streets. If a wife and husband, brother and sister, father and son, etc. have issues to deal with, they should arrange to sit down in the appropriate private place and resolve those difference behind closed doors.

Kwame Ture spent many years struggling to establish an African United Front. ZANU-PF demonstrated that this approach is feasible to at least a limited extent. Those acronyms stand for Zimbabwe African National Union-Patriotic Front. Let's look at a brief piece of our history.

During the struggle against the racist settlers in Zimbabwe, two political paries emerged, Zimbabwe African National Union (ZANU) and Zimbabwe African Peoples Union (ZAPU). As the enemy was defetaed, they resorted to trying to play ZANU off against ZAPU. Due to the political wisdom of Their Excellencies, Robert Mugabe (ZANU) and Joshua Nkomo (ZAPU) a political front was established between the two parties, ZANU-PF. Since ZANU was by far the majority party, they formed the government and icluded some of the leaders of ZAPU within the government. History is our best teacher.

If we take this principle and apply it to our current needs to form a United States of Africa and Arabia, we can see the need for a political Front. The African United Front (AUF) is a step in the right direction. The Front for the Unification and Development of Africa and Arabia is new, but it is also a step in the right direction. At some point, a Front must be established and maintained among the Fronts.
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What about gettin' ANGRY

I think it is wonderful that these things are being discussed, because i contemplate the types of things that were posted, and sometimes i feel as if revolution is a lost cause, as if we will have to wait until the enemy destroys himself.

What about when Malcolm said we weren't angry yet? That people take action when they are angry- not sad. What do you think about stirring up some anger against the establishment. I notice that you never hear about a police station being bombed in the middle of the night, or crooked cops being followed to their homes and taught a lesson. I never hear about black snipers in black neiborhoods picking-off that crooked cop that everybody knows is crooked. What if this anger developed across the nation- or could it be sparked by a few good men, who were ANGRY. Or how about letting these armored trucks out of our communities with all that dough, ever so safely and without protest or delay. I feel like we are so nice to our supposed enemy, and since the sixties? nothing. Meanwhile the enemy can pinpoint your location with the click of a button......
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Yes, African. To tell you the truth, I am not aware of any people in the whole wide world more proficient in snatching defeate from the jaws of victory than the Africans of slave ancestry here in the good ole racist USA. I have called for the establisment of a United States of Africa and Arabia, based on a citizentry of Africans and Arabs all over the world. I have tested most of the theories associated with this proposal. I have received somewhat tentative, but positive reponses from virtually everyone, except the Africans of slave ancestry in this racist country.

The problem is this: we have won. The zionist invasion of Lebanon a few months back was soundly defeated. Their attempts to intimidate the Palestinians were met with the victory of al-HAMAS. Bush is loosing badly in Afganistan, Irag, Sudan and Somalia. Seldom have these evil forces suffered so much humiliation in such a short space of time. What are we to do to consolidate our victory?

As I mentioned above, when the patriotic forces won in Zimbabwe; it was neceassry to establish a political front in order to govern because the enemy was no longer able to govern. ZANU-PF really had little choice but to take over the government. Similarly, we have little choice but establish continental government in Africa and Arabia. Just read the news. All of the evil enterprises setforth recently have failed. There is nothing to prevent us from unifying/uniting Africa and Arabia. The only problem is those of us who simply refuse to take responsibility for our own destiny and aspirations.

It is not about blowing up stuff. Destruction is a thing of the pass. The enemy will destroy himself. Forget about that sort of immature violence. We have entered a phase of positive construction and development. This is why the word "development" is in the name of the new Front. We are a development Front, or front for development. In other words, all African and Arab individuals and organizations who desire to participate in the development of Africa and Arabia, regardless of their differences in ideology and religion etc., need only work closely with FUDAA to get more bang for their bucks.

Speaking of buck; yes, I believe that we are fully capable of financing all of the requirements of holding elections and convening a Constitutional Convention. Once that is done, the Constitutional Convention will establish new means of financing.

All we need to do at this point, is pick up the pieces; and, go forward.

Forward! LONG LIVE THE NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Much respect.
You cited examples of where YT was defeated in countries other than the US, and there success and victory came not without violence. Why do you feel that the same is not necessary here in America, as Malcolm said years ago. Also, with the white man being the aggressor, and us playing the role of prey, trying to survive and play defense, are you confident that the lack of violence (immature as you call it) will bring change, which has been taught to the black american; unlike the Panthers, who were prepared/preparing for change, gun-in-hand?

Also, remember that the financial system is as much poison as their education, religion, entertainment ....
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