We must apply the right knowledge

[Ahneeahm]

Question: Is it possible for us to be restored unto our glory?

Answer: Absolutely. But FIRST we must apply the knowledge that is relevant to the restoration of our glory. To try and achieve a specific end result without properly applying the correct knowledge would simply be foolish.

Two examples:

1) A TV is broken. The TV can be fixed. It may be difficult, it may seem unlikely but at the end of the day it is not impossible for that television to be fixed, it is an attainable goal. However, if you approach the broken television set with a sledgehammer, planning on restoring the tv unto its former self, get used to some disapointment. Because no matter how hard you swing the sledgehammer, that methodology will ultimately be ineffective, simply because it is not relevant to the fixing of a TV.

2) You are trying to bake a cake. You are using all the ingredients that they have given you, you stir it up real nice put it in the oven and it comes out a pudding. You try it again, you take the ingredients remove a little bit here add a little bit there, stir it up real nice put it in the oven and it still comes out a pudding. Over and over again you use the ingredients that they have given you but it consistently yields the wrong results. At SOME point in time you will have to come to the conclusion that you are simply using the wrong ingredients.

For 450 years the African-American has been trying to bake that cake of Freedom and Social Equality. We have used all the different ingredients that have been presented before us but it keeps coming out a pudding. We've tried Mao, we tried Marx, we tried Lenin, we tried capitalism, we tried socialism, we tried communism, we tried sitting down, we tried standing up, we've tried politics we've tried economics, we tried education we tried law.....we've tried ALL the ingredients on the Menu but after 450 all we've got to show for it is a roomful of pudding. And instead of questioning the architect of the Menu and rejecting his ideas, we allow for his minions to continue deceiving our people into trying those same old proven failures...."well maybe you just stirred it wrong, give it another 100 years its gonna come out all right..just needs some more time, some more politicians, some more guns, some more textbooks...dont worry, your gettng closer"

There is a real simple equation that we can invoke on our behalf if we desire to know if any of those principles contain the knowledge relevant to the restoration of our glory. because every seed must yield according to its kind, all we must do is judge the tree by the fruit that it bares. Because you cant seperate the knowledge that you are applying from the RESULTS of that application! if you plant rose seeds you cannot get thornbushes, and if you plant thornbushes you cant get roses. To expect a thornbush seed to produce roses would simply be foolish. And ultimately in order to determine whether or not we are planting the right seeds we simply need to take a look around the garden.


Have African-americans attained their freedom? NO! Have african-americans received any justice" NO! have african americans reached a state of social equality? NO! absolutely not!

Then whatever knowledge we have been applying (seeds we have been sowing) are absolutely not the right ones! There is an ESSENTIAL element missing in this freedom struggle in america which we have left completely out of the picture.



Have you ever conceptualized God as being a key component in our struggle for redemption?



All I am saying is that somewhere in the midst of all this, inbetween the 150 million african war captives taken to america as slaves, and the slowly graduated process of removing all comprehension of our past present and future, followed by the subsequent soul transformation of the African/Edenic man into an 'african-american'...God was involved. Or at least, he has a position. Im sorry but I cant conceptualize the Creator of the heavens and the earth simply being neutral to our predicament as a people.

So at some point we must realize that if we truly desire to get the right answers, we have got to ask some tough questions.

Is God WITH the African-American, or isnt he? I said earlier that either He is directly involved or at least He has a position, but further still we must seek to know whether or not he is FOR us in this struggle or is He AGAINST us? Because even if He isnt, we must KNOW and accept and understand WHY he isnt so that we can correct ourselves, make the required changes and get back in His favor so that he WILL be with us.

No other people on this planet Earth have ever had a more strong personal unshakable faith in the Most High God than those of African descent. African-Americans are probably the most religously sincere people on the planet. But, as we look around and survey our environment today and review our past history as a people since we've arrived here, our assesment should lead us to the conclusion that there is NO possible way that we could be in this predicament that we are in if what we have been doing this whole time is RIIGHT.

Utterly impossible. There HAS to be something that we are simply doiing WRONG as a people that has been keeping us in a state of constant conflict with the Creator. Remember, it is the objective of the adversary to keep the people of God continuosly moving in constant conflict with the will of the Creator, because he knows that a people can only qualify to be blessed when their goals, interests and hobbies are in harmony with His dvine will. Our inability to manifest any strength in this land is directly tied into our inability to invoke God into this struggle on our side.

The enemy has a spiritual force on his side, and he strengthens his resolve and faith in that force every time he picks up a billyclub, firehose, or burning cross. He has mastered the art of manifesting satan's power on his behalf. And he has very cunningly deceived the African-americans into playing HIS game, by HIS rules in HIS home turn by luring us into a secular (godless) struggle.

We constantly hear the expression of the legal term 'seperation of church and state' but have you ever heard of a executive decision or congressional hearing centered around the seperation of satan and government? No? Thats because it doesnt exist

This godless, cold-hearted, soul-less social system is designed to play to the strengths of the opponent. a material revolution cannot solve a spiritual problem. No matter how many BILLIONS of dollars are in that stimilus package, it cant change our peoples ability to work together and cooperate and execute a plan on how to best utilize that money for our betterment. Our people's primary conflict isnt with the economic failures of the government to alleviate our conditions, rather, our conflict lies in the fact that everything from our lifestyles, our thought patterns, our diet and our vision keeps us in direct controversy withGod. This controversy with Yah began long before our arrival onto this land and it is for that reason that the Europeans have cut off our history..so that we cannot look back at the path and identify where exactly we made the wrong turns that got us in this situation...turn round, and correct them. Because when you are moving collectively in the wrong direction (away from God) you cannot expect to be blessed, only cursed.

The only way to overcome these seemingly insurmountable obstacles(curses) that have been placed before us is to return unto the God of our fathers in our every deed and thuoght, allign our bests interests and objectives with His and fall under the influence of Truth.

THIS is the knowledge that is relevant to the restoration of our glory. Mao didnt have the answer for us, Lenin didnt have the answer for us, Marx didnt have the answer for us. In order to determine who has the right answers we must first identify who has solved any of our problems.

Me personally, I see the wisdom of Ben Ammi Ben Isral as the only way out of the maze of chaos of confusion. His vision, after having been applied and made manifest in the African Hebrew Isrelite community in Dimona Israel, has led to the eradication of AIDS, Hert attacks, lung cancers, sexual perversion, poverty, homelessness, sickness and even death.

now you may know someone with a more impressive record and thats fine, but when i stop and consider the multiplcity of problems affecting these contemporary society's and I compare them to the tangible, observable, measurable realities taking place in the Village of Peace, I am forced to accept the fact that if every seed must yield according to its kind, and all of these seeds planted by African-american leaders have shriveled up and died over the course of the year while his is constantly growing and nourishing others, it must be because it is truly in God's best interest.

But whether or not you care for the accomplishments of Ben Ammi is not the point of concern. I am simply saying that at this critical point in history we must all fall under the influence of truth and seek to apply the right knowledge at the right time, PROPERLY, if we are ever to improve upon our predicament as a people. It is ASSESMENT time people!

[Pragmatic]

Brotha, Peace. I would have thanked you twice, GOD willing.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge"...Hosea 6:6

Peace be upon you

[Ahneeahm]

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Brotha, Peace. I would have thanked you twice, GOD willing.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge"...

Peace be upon you

Amos 8
11Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD(TRUTH!)
12And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.


due to the perpetual backsliding of our forefathers, we were completely cut off from the Word of God(Truth), AKA access to the Proper Knowledge. we'll go all over LOOKING for light, but behold darkness....


Revelations 12
7And there was war in heaven(a conflict in your MIND) Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, (a war for possesion of your mind, truth vs deception, God vs the Devil)
8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. (so deception, the lies that have been destroying our people, had to be extinguished and removed)


9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

--During the Famine of truth, lies began to flourish. Governments are established wherein the officials sit upon a THRONE of lies. how could the devil deceive the whole world except that deception has first of all been institutionalized, and secondly it has to have gained a level of acceptance! and so the whole world rotates upon the axis of a lie.

This prophetic 'war in heaven' is a mental war. heaven; a high, elevated place. the high elevated place of you is your what? your MIND. on the one side of the war we have the devil and his angels/messengers/servants/government officials/institutions, and all the ideology and doctrine that had been established through the dragon's angels....and on the other side there was the struggle for peace, truth, righteousness and the glory of God. but before you can enter into the world of God you must first exit the house of the devil. so once that deception is cast down, and out of the minds hearts and souls of those that have been erringly pursuing the wrong means of achieving salvation, watch the paradigm shift in verse ten.

10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Anointed: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

deception weakens us as a people! these pipe dreams about overthrowing governments and revolutionizing politics and lynching bill o'reilly are only drawing us further and further away from the source of our strength! so only once deception is cast down and out of our minds do we achieve salvation and begin to get our STRENGTH back!


The devil and his angels have so mythicized and romanticized the Bible to the point where we cant even conceptualize the things that it is talking about. The Kingdom of God is not floating off somewhere in the sky or in some unknown parralel remote interdimensional location...but because the people of God were still being held captive to the lies and under the influence of deception, the Kingdom of Satan(hell...on earth) became the prevalent environment known all over the planet and the idea of a peaceful, righteous society governed by men who are governed by God became abstract, placed in the sky, far-off and only attainable after you die. So theyve went all over the world, told you heaven was in the sky and while your looking up there daydreaming about God he was wide awake, building for you a hell on earth/

The devil had to apply the knowledge that is relevant to the destruction of the air, food, water, soil, animals and people of this world. Now we who are of God must apply the knowledge that is relevant to the restoration of it!!!

[Langalibalele]

Don't mean to rain on your parade, but reality must shine on YOUR pipe dreams. Kwame Nkrumah said, "Seek ye first the political kingdom." If you kno more than he, first president of the first black republic in Africa, then you are welcome to sho us what you have accomplished. The liberation movements of Africa, Asia and Latin America showed us the way. Scientific socialism has to be defended against the dogmatism and metaphysics that ruled African people's conscience since we came to these shores. For an idea of the science and complexity of what Africans have done in traditional settings (without the Bibble or Korran) right up to the hour, check out Fractals, a video by a white mathematician who visited the Motherland. I took a white man as an example of someone who appreciates our culture because you cannot possibly appreciate it from an Arabized or Judeao-Christian POV. Furthermore, to take this one step further, those texts are have no concept of the society we live in today.

Where will you hide from the Beast? There is no safe place on earth, so we have to take a stand where we live, here in its belly. And that will not be successful by praying, meditating, levitating, or waiting for the Mothership. We have a revolutionary tool in scientific socialism, Pan Africanism and in African Internationalism that will lead us in the correct direction. Individuals have stated what you are saying before, only to be enemies of the forward motion of our people. It was stated by Ron Karenga while he attacked the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. Creflo Money and that other fat preacher will tell you the same thing, whilst they roll around in Cadillacs and other fat whips. Like we need more of that. So if you think you have a better solution than Samora Machel, Maurice Bishop, Amilcar Cabral and Malcolm X, prove it.

[Ahneeahm]

you are welcome to sho us what you have accomplished.

The African Hebrew Israelite community constitutes the largest resettlement of African-Americans unto their African homeland, period. We are self-sustaining, self-governing, self-employing, self defining and self-educating. We make our own clothes and create our own music. And not only do we grow, eat, buy and sell our own food, but members of the community own and operate the largest vegan food chain in the world; Soul Vegetarian Restaurant. Less than five total incidents of death have occured throughout the 40 history our existence. No cases of lung cancer, heart attacks, diabetes or artheritis have sprung up within the midst of our community. In fact,, NONE of the so-called 'Normal' diseases that plague contemporary society have gained a foothold in our environment.


For an idea of the science and complexity of what Africans have done in traditional settings (without the Bibble or Korran) right up to the hour, check out Fractals, a video by a white mathematician who visited the Motherland.

For an idea of the science and complexity of what Africans are doing in a traditiional setting through the application of ancient African Hebraic customs recorded in the Bible, right up to the hour, check out Healing in the Israeli Desert (April 2003)

and

The Kingdom News Network - KNN: The Regenerative Health and Nutrition Program in Ghana has reached South Africa
I chose the European's magazine to provide you with a testimony coming from someone with no reason to lie on our behalf. There are observable, tangible, real-life verifiable benefits of living this lifestyle and applying those ancient African principles recorded in the Bible, im not making this up.


cannot possibly appreciate it from an Arabized or Judeao-Christian POV. Furthermore, to take this one step further, those texts are have no concept of the society we live in today.


This is where the deception becomes evident. Sometimes when talking to the Afrocentrics and Kemetologists etc, I am confronted with the statement 'the bible is the whitemans book'.

and I always say fine, I'll give you that, the Bible for the last 2000 years has in fact been the whitemans book. But then I pose part two: What was the Bible beFORE it was the whitemans book? because prior to the summoning of seventy greek-speeking hebrew scholars from northeast africa by ptolemy II of Greece, the Europeans simply were not in possession of the Bible, they had nothing to do with it at ALL, because before they got their hands on it it was an African book expressing the African-centered spiritual concepts of an African people in an African land.

It was after the Greeks created their Septuagint("greek Bible") that the Arabics came, dominating with their recently constructed religion of Islam as well as the Judeo-Christian philosophical belief constructs. But the key here is understanding that Hebrewisms had been here long before these other institutionalized belief systems even existed!

And to look at the world through the eyes of a TRUE Hebrew is to look at it through the eyes of an African, because the Hebrew authors and scholars of the Bible were all inhabitants of and descendants from Africa. Hebraic thought IS African thought.

Where will you hide from the Beast? There is no safe place on earth, so we have to take a stand where we live, here in its belly. And that will not be successful by praying, meditating, levitating, or waiting for the Mothership. We have a revolutionary tool in scientific socialism, Pan Africanism and in African Internationalism that will lead us in the correct direction


You must not be overly familiar with our story...


Who are the African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem? We are those that, after thoroughly analyzing the nature of this social system, have concluded that we absolutely do not want to have our children raised up in this environment. And after a brief assesment of the state of the world today we came to the realization that there was no suitable environment or godly structure for us, so we went out there to build one of our own. And 40 years after our decision to leave America we find our children walking in an environment free of drugs, alcohol, homicides, suicides, sexual perversion, burglary, sickness, disease and death. There are no cases of heart attacks in Dimona, no high blood pressures, no arterial sclerosis or lung cancers. Simply because we wont sell cigarettes to anyone, and our government doesnt authorize the selling of unhealthy food items to anyone. We dont promote violence, sexual immorality and spiritual wickedness in our community, regardless of its profitability, because it would counter our objective of a living in a peaceful and righteous environment.

None of the plagues that are affecting the western world today have been able to gain a foothold within our environment. We consume only only of food that is grown from the earth, because we understand that our existence is intrinsically linked to our receiving nourishment from the source in which we were created (the dirt/soil/dust of the earth). We have returned back to the Genesis, our healing centers and medical institutions are all in harmony with the ancient African/Edenic methods of usingi herbs, vegetables and more natural ingredients for healing as opposed to the artificial, chemically treated and genetically modified solutions offereed by the European.

. Individuals have stated what you are saying before, only to be enemies of the forward motion of our people.

Once again,, your are confusing this redemptive movement with another one of those religous groups. Because when I say God, individuals automatically get confused and think that im talking about religion. Subsequently they either become offended


It was stated by Ron Karenga while he attacked the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. Creflo Money and that other fat preacher will tell you the same thing, whilst they roll around in Cadillacs and other fat whips.

well...the need for righteousness, peace, mercy and justice may have been expounded upon lightly by some of the aforementioned individuals but none of them truly practice what they preach. What separates my spiritual leader Ben Ammi from all those other religous nuts is the actual collective body of work he has amassed.

At the foundation of the Institute is the peaceable beloved community modeled at Jerusalem among the African Hebrew Israelite Community. “During a visit to Israel as part of a congressional delegation in September 2004, I saw King’s vision in practice among the daily lives of the Hebrew Israelites in Dimona,” ,” declared President Steele(of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference). “Now it is time for SCLC to codify King’s ideals and Ben Ammi’s works.”
INH - Homepage


That is not just some RELIGOUS mumbo-jumbo we are talking about here, there has to be clear distinctions made!


Like we need more of that. So if you think you have a better solution than Samora Machel, Maurice Bishop, Amilcar Cabral and Malcolm X, prove it.

When you have a philosophy or a gospel–I don't care whether it's a religious gospel, a political gospel, an economic gospel or a social gospel–if it's not going to do something for you and me right here and right now–to hell with that gospel!" -Malcolm X

Malcolm X conceptualized solutions. as did martin luther King, when he declared that 'we as a people will get to the promised land' and we are not claiming to be 'better than' them or anything, what simply makes the African Hebrew Israelites different is the fact that we have applied and tested and manifested the observable end result! Panafrican internationalism? That concept alone is one of the cornerstones of our community! We currently have at our disposal 3200 acres of land in Benin, West Africa, that the Africans are basically giving to us so that we may increase our presence in their land as we begin to pull out of america and into africa, in harmony with Revelations 18:4.


So without getting into it too much more, I would just like to say that the methodology of the Bible has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to have the capacity to, if applied properly, bring about the right result

there arent too many african-americans who can do, will do or have done what Ben Ammi has done for the advancement of our people. whether or not you believe in the bible is of none no significance, but if im sitting here with a perfectly fine television set with cable while eating a delicous cake baked to perfection, you dont have the right to say that the methods I used to get to this level are incorrect. especially if your still swinging away at that sludgehammer trying to get your stuff to work!

[Langalibalele]

The African Internationalist movement has a history and a past which is not borne alone upon my shoulders but upon the shoulders of African people all over the world.

It does not rely upon me to define it. It is not based upon individualism. It began when Haiti became an independent republic and strove to liberate the rest of the Caribbean from colonialism. Shaka Zulu united the disparate tribes in Southern Africa and fought against colonialism. This is the history of the unconquered people; we may have our defeats, but the will of the African people will never ever be defeated. This movement is part of the forward motion of history, and our future relies upon our eventual victory over Imperialism.

No religious, metaphysical or metaspiritual concept can define modern social relations. Your relationship to god is not a social relationship, it is personal. Perhaps even private. Hence, because no god has opened up the sky to inform anybody what god wants from everybody, if we are all equal in god's eyes then nobody is special enuf to tell anybody else what god wants. No reason to await that moment because when and if it comes time itself will stop and our problems will cease.

For that reason, society is left to DEVELOP our revolutionary consciousness based upon scientific socialism. The American Colonization Society was not much different from your efforts. We are not trying to duplicate that model, since African Internationalism knows that worldwide monopoly capitalism has our people enslaved for a profit, and only REVOLUTION will liberate us from that. Without a scientific analysis of Imperialism, it is virtually impossible to understand your relationship to the world and how to transform it.

[Ahneeahm]

This movement is part of the forward motion of history, and our future relies upon our eventual victory over Imperialism.

okay, fine. No problem with that. I applaud any efforts that are attempting to move our people from under the hands of their enemies. dont get me wrong, there is a serious socio-political reality concerning the predicament that we are in as a people, but there are still some major missing ingredients within that secular struggle. Health, family, morality, poverty,domestic violence, etc...all of these issues have their roots within the realm of spirituality. If the leadership CARED,, people wont go homeless. They wouldnt sell you cigarettes, they wouldnt ALLOW for alcohol, pig-intestines or salmonella-laced peanuts to enter into the neighborhoods, certain kinds of music wouldnt be tolerated on the radio. But these are called 'moral, ethical, scrupulous principles'. SPIRITUAL is the word I use to describe

No religious, metaphysical or metaspiritual concept can define modern social relations. Your relationship to god is not a social relationship, it is personal. Perhaps even private.

In the eurocentric theological context that is completely correct.

However, in the original African Hebraic context, culture is observable worship. The things you do, the things you say, the clothes you wear, the food you eat, the way you take care of your body, the way you interact with your spouse your children your family members etc, are all different manifestations of your worship. There are righteous lifestyles that reflect holistic, positive, godly attributes and there wicked lifestyles that reflect degenerative, negative and saatanic attributes. Whether you are a christian/hebrew/muslim/buddhist, it doesnt matter. Your character, your lifestyle, your thoughts deeds and actions determine who you are and what 'god' you serve.

The African-American has taught that you are supposed to just worship god for two hours on Sunday and for the other 6 hours and 22 days he can just do whatever he wanna do. But those teachings are the result of some wicked individuals scheme to keep us in a perpetual state of backsliding and destruction. Our immoral, unjust, sexually perverted and reckless lifestyles are a major cause of our problems as a people.

for example, the widespread proliferation of aids amongst the black community for comes as the result of a lack of discipline and structure concerning sex. To just go around having sex with everybody everyday anywhere and anyhow is simply ungodly, perverted. And the effect of this ungodliness is FELT, it is observable, it is real. Regardless of whether or not AIDS is a man-made disease, it is still preventable. It is still verifiable, it is still avoidable and amongst those with a holistic understanding about health, it is even treatable.

And no amount of secular political objectives can rid us of that disease. No amount of secular political objectives can make men and women LOVE each other once again. No amount of secular political objectives can restore the black family, get everyone healthy again, create a smoke-free, pollution free death-free enviironment. So although I am not knocking the fact that the chosen methods of liberation for our people can be utilized in order to accomplish certain objectives, I still understand that it ultimately will still not posess the necessary ingredients to bring about the desired effect.

Any new form of government that would be created through a scientific socialist revolution will need to have at its foundation the principles of love, truth, peace, mercy, equity justice and righteousness, etc...Other than that, it will ultimately culminate into a new system not totally unlike our previous system. And it should be our objective to get as far away as POSSIBLE from that hell on earth. But in order to build a heaven (the opposite of hell) we would need to apply the spiritual ingredient.

A truth-centered social system vs a western liberal democratic (do whatever you wanna do) social system. Righteous men and women at the head, who govern with integrity and moral responsibility. THis is the 'spirituality' that im talking about. We have been given a form or image or idea of spirituality, God and righteousness whichh leads us away from the desire to pursue them. And this leaves us open and exposed to the devil's onslaught of over-materialism, fleshly desires and homicidal drugs and medications.



[/quote]The American Colonization Society was not much different from your efforts.[/quote]

They were COMPLETELY different than us, simply because this worked and that didnt.

We are not trying to duplicate that model

Ghana is.

Creating Wealth through Health: A New Paradigm for Ghana?s Development

(you can literally scroll down to a section entitled 'The Dimona Model' for proof)

Without a scientific analysis of Imperialism, it is virtually impossible to understand your relationship to the world and how to transform it.

that argument can only be made to someone within a movement tht HASNT overstood and tranformed their relationship to the world.

What Im trying to say here is that politics and economics play a role in this struggle, but at the end of the day Malcolm X said if we dont have our own land language and culture then the struggle was in vain. Well, THe African (land) Hebrew(language) Israelites(Culture)...are not to be lumped in with some 'religous group of zealots' or anything. These are true revolutionaries, who have a proven, observable, verifiable method of creating social harmony, righteous government and peaceful living for people of African descent. If thats not the ultimate objective in this freedom struggle then I dont know what is. '

YouTube - Our Village of Peace proves our destiny is outside of the US

YouTube - Our Village of Peace proves our destiny is outside of the US

[Langalibalele]

If you hope to preserve the context of my statement for accuracy, just don't deal with the bites, my brother.

Originally Posted by Langalibalele

...Your relationship to god is not a social relationship, it is personal. Perhaps even private. Hence, because no god has opened up the sky to inform anybody what god wants from everybody, if we are all equal in god's eyes then nobody is special enuf to tell anybody else what god wants. No reason to await that moment because when and if it comes time itself will stop and our problems will cease.

I think the key part of this statement is:

"No god has opened up the sky to inform [everybody] what god wants from [anybody], if we are all equal in god's eyes then nobody is special enuf to tell anybody else what god wants."

So if you say I have a Eurocentric view of deity, sho me where the Europeans don't try to impose their view of god on Africans and then I'll say you ain't trying to be like them. Because until god opens up the sky, I ain't takin nobody's word for what s/he wants from me.

[Ahneeahm]

Originally Posted by Langalibalele

"No god has opened up the sky to inform [everybody] what god wants from [anybody], if we are all equal in god's eyes then nobody is special enuf to tell anybody else what god wants."

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Once again,, I come strictly from the African Hebraic context and perspective, so im not talking about any god that jumps down from out of the sky with a loudpspeaker screaming out instructions. In Hebraic thought, you judge the tree by the fruit that it bears, because every seed must yield according to its kind. Since a corrupt tree has to yield corrupt fruit and a good tree has to yield good fruit, ultimately it is by their fruits ye shall know them. Those that come bringing you the word of God, if it is the truth, it will be verifiable and observable. One could simply assess the end result of that applied knowledge.

Yeshua(Jesus) said that ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. So in other words, following that same line of thought, freedom is a characteristic that will be possessed by those who are to come bringing the truth. Because if they had the truth it would have set them free, but if they had been applying their knowledge all the time but haven attained any freedom, it is simply because it is not the truth.

Yeshua(Jesus) also said that you cannot go into the midst of thorns in search of grapes, and that you cannot go into the midst of thistles in search of figs. So we continue to seek justice; where is the just system? Who are we seeking justice from? The constitition isnt just. We continue to seek equity, but where is the equitable society that can provide that for you? The simple reality of our existence is that if we truly desire justice, we must accept the responsibility and find a starting point so that we can create justice for ourselves... then allow for them to come seeking justice from us!




Eurocentric theology: We are all equal in God's eyes.

Hebraic thought: Worship is deteremined by your works, and likened unto servitude. The things that you DO determine who you are and what God you serve. You can literally make your mouth say anything, but ultimately it boils down to who's interests you are advancing on this planet; God or Satan. Someone who (by their works, motives and thoughts) is a worshipper of the devil can not POSSIBLY be considered equal in God's eyes to someone who (by their works, motives and thoughts) is a worshipper of God.

And the promise was that in the last days it would be made known unto us exactly what God;s redemptive plan for humanity is.

Amos 8
11Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:
12And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.

For a season we were cut off from access to God's truth. His truth is contained in the Bible, but in order to fully understand the Bible you must first find the Children of the Bible and then they (and only they) will be able to extract the eternal ideals from out of it and apply it to a nation for fulfillment.

Exodus 19
5Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for(even though) all the earth is mine:
6And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

God's redemptive plan involved the existence of a civilization or establishment of a Kingdom that would manifest and flourish under the hand of the Almighty. This kingdom of priests/holy nation would then serve as a guiding light or shining example of righteousness for all other nations. The people chosen to bring this light into being was the northeast african children of Israel, but the Children of Israel had been driven out of their land and forced into exile for 2000 years.

Luke 21
24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

During our exile from the land, all kinds of people done came in set up shop and claimed to have some kind of truth. But this wall all during the Famine of truth, when the great abundance of lies were allowed to flourish.

But again, the redemptive plan still remained the same and at some point it was prophecied that a remnant (small portion) would return to the land and lift up that standard.

Isaiah 10

20And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. 21The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God.

Isaiah 49:6
"It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring my salvation to the ends of the earth."

And so from the biblical perspective now we see how the Word of God was supposed to come. Not from some voice in the skies or some weird fluttering half naked 'angels', but from a civilizaation on earth that stands as a tangible observable measurable example as to Exactly where the worship of God can get you.

Isaiah 2
2And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

but remember, a mustard seed Kingdom. So before all NATIONS flow unto it there would be individuals, families, organizations and communities. But at some point it gets to a level of development where we start talking about nations, countries governments and provinces.

3And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem

Because until god opens up the sky, I ain't takin nobody's word for what he wants from me.

There have been no instances of lung cancer in Dimona, no instances of kidney failure. No deaths due to heart attacks among our people, no high blood pressure. Homelessness, poverty, black and black crime drug addiction, all of these for us are just things we see on TV, like aliens and rocket ships. Parents arent afraid to raise their children any more, police arent beating on our teenagers anymore, we have no quarrel with any nation and we are an international source of guidance and inspiration.

Now with all of these accolades coming from the midst of former 'african americans' who left the country with no social, economic or political apparatus in place to ensure their accomadations in another land, one would HAVE to inquire as to the nature of the source of our success. And shortly upon discovering the fact that we are considiered a 'spiritual community' by those that know of us, you would have to ask the question 'what kind of spirituality have these guys tapped into'

Because here we are exclaiming not only that this prototype woorked in Israel but that we feel as if we can reproduce these results in any other land willing to work with us. Now the scripture says that the Word of the LORD shall be made known unto us,that the will of the Creator as it relates to our lives will once again be made known unto our people in these, the lst days of Euro-Gentile world dominion. And a geographic location is named, pinpointing the exact loction wherefrom this doctrine shall go forth from...Jerusalem.

The prophets never said that all of our problems will magically cease to exist,, that is mythical, fabricated, eurocentric theology at its highest. In reality, all of our problems will simply be made known unto us, through the establishment and elevation of the Kingdom of Yah at Jerusalem. Another path, another paradigm, another way of life is created and exists as an alternative for all those that dont desire to be of the old world.

This is the prophetic reality, based upon the ancient wisdom of the inspired prophets nd men of God, as opposed to the contemporary deception being proliferated worldwide by the worshippers of the devil.

This is the 'right knowledge' that must be applied in order for us to achieve our salvation. How do I know? Simply becuse it has worked, and we have been saved from the evil clutches of this wicked system. We have tasted fruit of Marx, Lenin, Mao, Democracy, Capitilasm, socialism revolutionaryism...and concluded that it simply isnt the form of knowledge that is needed..