REVOLUTION NOW or REVOLUTION AS A PROCESS?

[Abasi]

Revolution is a process, period, as is every other form of motion in the universe. It is not a singular action, nor is there a hard and fast formula for it. There is plenty of material that has been published on the question, and the answers to questions regarding it can be easily found.

The real question is what kind of revolution is up for discussion. I maintain that the only kind of revolution that is correct is a scientific socialist revolution aimed at overturning white-power imperialism and replacing it with the dictatorship of the proletariat. This kind of process is not defined by its violence, though violence will likely be a significant expression of the revolutionary process as it nears critical points in its development. Revolution should ultimately bring a "new man" and woman into existence, and particularly so for the African. It is the process of liquidating our relationship to the colonial masters and their neo-colonialist running dogs and bring a new kind of existence into being, that is, life without the oppression of man by man.

The idea of revolution "now", which is really rebellion now, is adventurist. It is idealistic and will prove to be ruinous, period, and this has been demonstrated over and over again through history. However, revolution, in its scientific understanding, is happening right now, daily, by the hour. This site is a part of that process. Here revolutionary forces can communicate in a number of ways which assists in developing the revolutiuon by winning forces to ideological clarity, winning non-revolutionary forces to revolution, etc. Of course, there is plenty more happening.

For those who desire revolution now, build it, period. Rappin' won't get it, if that's all you got. The opposition is prepared for their own demise, so drop the romantic notions of heroic deeds and honorable death, because the more effective the revolution becomes, the more desperate the imperialist will get, and a desperate imperialism is a very leathal imperialism. No, our taks as revolutionaries is to lead the work as an ox leads the plough, and that requires a solid, conditioned, and intelligent vangaurd force capable of withstanding the strain of the harness, and the stress of the resistent earth under our feet. The best revolutionary is a long-term revolutionary, who can help see the process through and that will leave behind her or him other revolutionaries do the same.

Revolutionary love,

[Ahneeahm]

The question is, what is it that you are trying to revolutionize?

By this I mean, you are clearly talking about a radical change or shift from one paradigm to another. And that is a beautiful objective. But from my perspective, the problem arises when we look at the revolution as needing to be something external, or beyond the realm of our existence, and instead see the socio-economic and political structure of america as the thing that needs to be changed.

One thing, in my opinion, must remain clear throughout all of this debate and conversation.

God the father has established Universal law, he need not chastise nor punish but within the order and cycles of good and right you will simply reap what you sow. Man therefore makes his mind either his best freind or his worst enemy, because with it he will either be blessed, or cursed.

Politics and economics are not the CAUSE of our problems. They are the EFFECT of our Problem. The ungodly frame of mind that we developed in this mind is the true 'yoke that burdens us'...it is what keeps us enslaved and it is what perpetuates this captivity.

Regardless of whether or not we have money, the problem still remains. regardless of whether or not we have land, the problem will still remain. regardless of whether or not we have a black president, the problem still remains. Because at the end of the day we have a spiritual problem, wherein the man cannot trust the woman, the woman cannot rely upon the man and the children are not being properly guided by their parents.

The missing component in our struggle is is the element of Righteousness, the God-element. In a secular struggle, while desiring to achieve secular results, we will leave the God element out of all this and seek to engage the adversary in a political struggle. But it is in the political struggle that he is the STRONGEST, in fact it is the source of his strength.

Politicians are professional liars, crafty, deceptive individuals who have been well-trained and battle-tested in their respective arenas. They understood long ago that the primary objective when going up against people of african descent is to 'divide and conquer', or cause disunity distrust and dislike amongst our ranks. Once this objective was completed it was as if we were left exposed, without protection from their vicious attacks.

Because the source of black peoples strength has always been their spirituality, people-to-people ecology and ability to work together for the greater good. Remove the spiritual element and/or the human element from this struggle and we are left fighting to the strengths of our oponents, which is deception, lying, cheating stealing etc.

The Socio-political and economic arenas are their 'homefield advantage'. we cant WIN in a political struggle, our objective shouldnt even be to FOCUS on a political struggle. Who cares whether or not you are a socialist, capitalist or communist...if a brother is walking down the street starving to death but surrounded by houses with food in them, he should be able to eat. Our objective should be to establish and maintain a righteous environment for ourselves. To try and change the social system without disassociating ourselves from the mind that created this social system would be foolish. The political structure of the system might change but it would ultimately remain the same since it would still lack that vital spiritual component that life is all about.

So once again, the question is still 'what are you talking about revolutionizing'

because trying to change alter or knock off course something as deeply rooted as liberal, democratic and capitilistic government in the minds of the people simply aint gonna happen. even if you build a socialist government, the spirit behind this social system (wherein unbridled capitalism = unbridaled greed) would remain in the midst of our people. We would continue to rob, steal, cheat and gamble ourselves deeper and deeper into hell.

A new form of secular government wont restore the feminine nature of a woman or the put the man back at the head of the household...it wont teach the children how to honor thy mother and father or make equity and social harmony become cultural norms in the black community.

The only TRUE revolution worth talking about is a SPIRITUAL Revolution, returning men and women back unto God, the source of their strength, happiness, peace and love. A struggle for the REDEMPTION of our people, not the destruction of a political system.

And at the head of the redemptive struggle for the souls of our people is Ben Ammi Ben Israel and the African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem.

African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem

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TRUE revolutionaries start revolutions!

[Abasi]

Aneeham, I was going to make a point-by-point response to your post ( and I still may), but every time I try to I end up finding sumthing better to do. I get real tired of the kind of position your are taking. I'm not interested in any form of Christianity, period. It all requires the same thing: a slavish deference to some mythical being which allowed this to happen to my people. I don't need a god who so sadistic as to allow his supposed chosen people to endure this kind of degradation and oppression. Period. Furthermore, the Hebrew Israelites are not Africans, by yalls own account, so yall strategy ain't gon' work for me and mine, because we Africans, period. The Hebrew Israelites (HI's) I talk with are hostile to Africans and the concept of being African, and they have made it clear that Africans ain't nuthin but heathens to them, which puts them in the same camp as white power.

Now, when you say that the basis of our problem is not political, or economic, but instead a defect in our character going back over the course of 600 plus years, then I hafta question your motives. If you can't see that the problem is that we ain't got no power (in the U.S. or Israel, by the way), and we ain't even got the capacity to feed ourselves in the U.S., then I hafta wonder about your grip on reality. The only thing I can agree with the HI's on is the fact that these crackaz gotta get what's comin to them. They downfall is inevitable, and that's about where my agreement ends man. I ain't bout to wait for no Motherships or Black Jesus' to come down and save me from the big bad white man, I'ma go at his ass myself. Now if yo religious beliefs mean that you gon just stand by and watch, then I know where you stand and what to expect outta you and yours, but remember, when the fuckin' cracka pulls you over (soverignty papers and all), he don't see a Hebrew Israelite, or a chosen people of Yah, he sees a fuckin nigga, and that how he's gon trat you, chief.

I can't verify wether or not your theory is correct because it is based on ideas man, phantoms in people's heads. You give me your theory from the same book the crackas use to justify they domination of the whole fuckin world! How I'm supposed to get with that? How I'm supposed to take that to my people who been goin' to sum kinda church all they damn lives and still barely makin' it happen? It ain't political? Then explain to me why Gay Edgar Hoover and his fucking thugs destroyed the Black Revolution? I guess that was Yah punishing his ever-rebellious children? Explain to me y the fuckin crackas in Irael, the muthafuckas yall in such a hurry to get next to, and who don't even accept yall as "ahkim", consistently deny Africans with true claim to familial relation to Dawud (David) and all them the right to live in Israel? Tell me, y would I want a tiny strip of land next door to the damn desert when, by birthright, the richest continent on the face of the planet belongs to me and mine? It ain't economic? If we controlled Africa and the resoruces therein, white power wold fuckin crumble. They couldn't make no more damn cell phones, no more damn coca coal cans, and no more goddamn nuclear bombs. They couldn't afford the Trillion Dollar Army of One that hold both my black ass, and yo "Hebrew" ass in subjugation.

Go head man, I'm good. This what I'ma do: I'ma organze my people and prepare for the showdown, bro. And when the throw down go down, we'll see who's who and what's what. And as far as beatin' this cracka at his own game, the once heroic Vietnamese proved this fuckin chump cracka can't take it on the gorund for more than ten to fiften years. That means, all me and my African comrades, and everyobdy down with us, gotta be able to do is fight for ten to fifteen years and one day. Or maybe twenty years and one day, or maybe fifty years and one day, whatever it is, it's a far better goal than to sit back, suck it up, and wait for Yahshua, or Elijah Muhammed, or the Water Aliens beneath the sea, or the Nigga Martians building Pyamids on Mars to come save my black ass.

No offense, but ain't no god put me here, crackas did. Ain't no amount of prayer gon get me out, me and my comrades gon get us out. We struggle to win, and my stance is, if you ain't down to struggle for freedom, then you ain't down with me.

One Love: Africa, One People: Africans, One Aim: Liberation

[Ahneeahm]

Originally Posted by Abasi

It all requires the same thing: a slavish deference to some mythical being which allowed this to happen to my people.

No, we require the advancement of our nationalistic objectives within the context of spirituality. Big difference.

Period. Furthermore, the Hebrew Israelites are not Africans, by yalls own account, so yall strategy ain't gon' work for me and mine, because we Africans, period. The Hebrew Israelites (HI's) I talk with are hostile to Africans and the concept of being African, and they have made it clear that Africans ain't nuthin but heathens to them, which puts them in the same camp as white power.

I am not connected to those groups. Those are American-based organizations with no land, language or culture. These are those that represent mythical concepts of salvation. The AFRICAN (not 'black') Hebrew Israelite Nation at Jerusalem is intrinsically linked to the continent of Africa, is residing in the continent of Africa and has been working for over 35 years on making a positive impact ON the continent of Africa.

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If you can't see that the problem is that we ain't got no power (in the U.S. or Israel, by the way), and we ain't even got the capacity to feed ourselves in the U.S., then I hafta wonder about your grip on reality.

We own and operate the largest vegan food chain on the planet. We manufacture, buy and sell our own clothing. We define our own educational institituions. We grow our own food, we listen to our own music. We have our own government and healthcare system. Everything about the African Hebrew Israelite Nation is nationalistic. Not a religion, not an organization, not a cult. This is true black power in effect, true pan-african nationalism, making a real impact in people's lives. We are not to be associated with those religous organizations in America, we are a spiritually nationalistic movement with locations in Israel, Africa, Australia, South America, the Carribeans, the UK and United States.

but remember, when the fuckin' cracka pulls you over (soverignty papers and all), he don't see a Hebrew Israelite, or a chosen people of Yah, he sees a fuckin nigga, and that how he's gon trat you, chief.

You clearly hvent been to Israel. All you have to do at a security checkpoint is say 'Dimona' and 9 times out of 10 they'll let you slide. At the airports its a little different, they tend to act a little funny about people with headwraps and non-european culture on, but in the land of Israel we are highly respected for the work we have done on a greater international level. There are some that dont like us but thats just life. Just last year we began receiving citizenship, not Black Jews or as Muslims but as African Hebrew Israelites. The nation is growing.

I can't verify wether or not your theory is correct because it is based on ideas man, phantoms in people's heads.

No, its based on the largest group of African-Americans succesfully organized outside of America in history. They live in a community wherein there has been no cases of black on black violence, no homicides no car burglaries no rape, no drug or alcohol abuse, in over 40 years.

It ain't political? Then explain to me why Gay Edgar Hoover and his fucking thugs destroyed the Black Revolution?

funny you should mention the man who stated that his Cointelpro objective was to 'prevent the rise of a black messiah' who would unify and electrify a black nationalist movement. he didnt say a black revolutionary, he didnt say a black politician, he used the distinctive term 'Messiah' to describe what he wanted to stop. They then calculated all their objectives towards assasinating, discrediting or otherwise halting the process of any powerful brother with a strong enough spirit to awake the masses. So in the mid late 1960s they started knocking off all of our american-based leaders trying to stop any kind of messianic personage to arise from the midst of our people but the guy they were looking for had already led us halfway to the promised land.

Tell me, y would I want a tiny strip of land next door to the damn desert when, by birthright, the richest continent on the face of the planet belongs to me and mine?

I would respect that position more coming from an individual who is a prt of an organization that actually has aquired land in Africa. We have aquired land in Africa. 3200 acres in Benin West Africa, as a part of our Restoration Village, our voluntary resettlement program for African-Americns. We are working with government officials in Ghana, and providing clean drinkable water for people in Kenya. We are in south Africa. I am not talking about concepts and ideologies, this is a nation. African nations send delegations to Israel inquiring about us.

We struggle to win, and my stance is, if you ain't down to struggle for freedom, then you ain't down with me.

One Love: Africa, One People: Africans, One Aim: Liberation

We are at the forefront of the struggle for liberation. Please dont confuse the Kingdom with those sects and organizations in America, that would be a grave mistake. We are worlds apart. If I were you I would inquire more about the largest group of African-Americans living outside of America. Malcolm X said that if at the end of this struggle the black man doesnt have his own land language and culture then the struggle was in vain. You say you struggle to win, well according to one of the pre-eminent scholars and activists and definers of our objectives in this land, you are struggling to achieve land language and culture, something we have already had for 40 years.

[Abasi]

Uhuru Ahneeahm,
I must say that I did not expect to get the kind of response you gave. If what you say is true, then 1) it will be able to be verified, and 2) it represents a concrete reality which can be dealt with in a progressive way.

You made frequent distinctions between your formation and the various "sects" here in the states, and while I am sure that there is truth in what you are saying, I'm going to reserve judgment and investigate what you have said. The fact is, there are religious pimps and hustlers all around the African and many of them have been successful in plying their trade, dig, so you'll understand my serious skepticism. On the other hand, if I can ascertain that what you say is true, then obviously, I'll have some adjustments to make in my stance/position.

I look forward to a unified front against white power, and that unity must be based on principle, something that we both probably understand well. If there are common principles on which we can unite, then I'll struggle to bring what forces I represent into contact and unity with you and the forces you represent, and struggle for active work to happen.

Once I can complete an investigation into the facts of what you have said, then I'll give you a more complete reply which speaks to the points you've made.

In the spirit of rebellion and with a singular focus on freedom,
Abasi

[Ahneeahm]

Originally Posted by Abasi

Uhuru Ahneeahm,
I must say that I did not expect to get the kind of response you gave....The fact is, there are religious pimps and hustlers all around the African and many of them have been successful in plying their trade, dig, so you'll understand my serious skepticism.

I fully understand your skepticism, it is a valid concern. For so long our people have been preyed upon by those who come in the sheeps skin of religion but in fact are ravenous wolves. We are taught to judge the tree by the fruit that it bears, and every seed must yield according to its kind. An apple tree will yield apples, and an orange tree must yield oranges. There is no circumventing that. So if you walk up to a tree that has a shiny yellow sticker on it that says 'Apple,' then you look up and see a whole bunch of oranges, it really doesnt take too much high wisdom to understand that your dealing with an orange tree. Its common sense.

But this false title of religion causes for us to focus on the external classification instead of the true nature of men and women of God. This is what Yeshua of Nazareth was confronted with 2000 years ago while Judea was under Roman rule. While walking through the Temple he saw the 'religious pimps and hustlers' doin they thing and declared 'ye have made my Fathers house a den of thieves. God wasnt the problem, the Bible wasnt the problem, the Temple in and of itself wasnt the problem, but those crooked individuals who hid themselves under the clever guise of religion came in and created all the problems for our people at that time.

Luke 20:45-47
45Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples,

46Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts; 47Which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.

Religous hypocrasy is nothing new. So I understand your initial doubt, because in the 2000 years that have passed since that day and time things have only gotten worse, that adversarial spirit known as the devil has only generated more steam behind his objectives and has been driving his hellish social systems and wicked ideology down our peoples throat for centuries now. Look up the definition of redemption and show me one 'religion' on the face of the planet that is truly redemptive. It doesnt exist, because religion isnt the truth about God, righteousness is.

And we must very careful not to lump deceptive religiosity with righteous motivation. Yeshua ben Yoseph (more commonly known by the greco-roman term Jesus Christ) was a true revolutionary, crucifixion is a roman capitol punishment. King David was a valiant warrior who outwitted and embaressed the adversaries of his people while attempting to defend his nation.. Moses was a liberator, Abraham was a freedom fighter. None of the men and women of God spoken of in scripture were soft or weak-hearted individuals, they were powerfully inspirational African brothers and sisters. We are the descendants of these individuals, their blood runs in our veins,, and that power is still with us, we just dont know how to use it...we've been cut off from our roots.

Over the last 2000 years European scholarship has been crafting image of the Bible in our minds that we cannot relate to, full of dainty little caucasians floating around with long, flowing beards and neglige loosely wrapped around themselves. They've succesfully convinced you that the Bible is the whiteman's book with its origin in Rome or something. And this comes despite the fact up until the so-called New Testament, you rarely read anything about lands like Rome, or Britain,, or France, or Belgium. There is hardly a scriptural reference towards Europe throughout the entirety of the Hebrew scriptures, and the only time you do read about those nations is after they came down from Europe and invaded Jerusalem (Northeast Africa), subsequently becoming involved in the lives of the Children of Israel and writing themselves into biblical history. Before then you read about lands like Egypt,, and Ethiopia, and Sudan, and Libya, and Israel and the Sinai peninsula, the Red Sea. These are all geographic locations within the continent of Africa arent they! Our people have beenso deceived...

Have you ever wondered what the Bible was before it was taken into Rome and translated from Hebrew to Greek? Nevermind, thats a whole other topic.

but look, the scriptures arent the problem, they are simply historical references to their spiritual reality concerning the past present and future of a people called Israel. So whether you want to look at our movement from the biblically prophetic standpoint or the contemporary nationalistic perspective, it is still very much alive and well and in existence on both sides.

Once I can complete an investigation into the facts of what you have said, then I'll give you a more complete reply which speaks to the points you've made.

I've already posted several compilations of information on this website regarding our verifiable track record of proven accomplishments. All you need to do is take a few seconds to investigate the facts presented in the following links to come to the right conclusions...I have included at the very bottom a video of our community's spiritual leader, engaged in a discussion centered around the deception concerning religion today

check it out

A Proven Solution.

http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/164773-post1.html

YouTube - The African Bible - Pt. 3

YouTube - The African Bible - Pt. 3

YouTube - perception of deception pt 8

YouTube - perception of deception pt 8