gangsta rap

[Ready4Revolution]

does gansta rap, the rap speaks of killing anotha bro. and or sis., that speaks of sell death to children in order to get rich, does this type of rap reflect the negative aspects of Afrikan culture in Amerikkka, or is this a matter or eurocentric cultural incarceration manifesting itself in the Afrikan community?

[Jacuma]

Gangsta Rap? if you are talking about gang banging on the system then I love it we need more gangsta rap feel me?

[Ready4Revolution]

Gangsta Rap? if you are talking about gang banging on the system then I love it we need more gangsta rap feel me?

no thats not what i mean at all, because i love Dead Prez, for me that doesnt fall into same group as gansta rap for me its revolutionary rap, i talking about the 50cents, who make Afrikan on Afrikan Crime seem good. and whether or not its a matter of cultural domination manifesting itself in us, or is the an aspect of us?

[rebelAfrika]

does gansta rap, the rap speaks of killing anotha bro. and or sis., that speaks of sell death to children in order to get rich, does this type of rap reflect the negative aspects of Afrikan culture in Amerikkka, or is this a matter or eurocentric cultural incarceration manifesting itself in the Afrikan community?

"One love, who said it?
I know Whodini sang it
the HATER taught HATE that's why we gangbangin' "--Public Enemy

[Daisho]

First off these so called gangsta rappers ( not worthy of M.C. status) are frauds and whores for the industry who act as sonic agents to distort the self image of our youth. If you listen to these "herbs" you might believe 90% of black males are handi-cap drug dealers who inbetween being shot and running from po-lice have time to floss in insecurity mobiles like bentleys, benz's and beemers while smaking some double jointed stripper on the arse in route to the bahama's. These are not men by any means they're merely puppets used to misdirect the energy and spirit of our youth. So you got shot 9 times and this cat got shot 5 big deal...where did you go from there? You're a gangsta' clubbin' but can't leave your house without 18 big body guards ( off duty cops at that) and your platinum chain spins...big f*ckin' deal. Frontin' crazy hardcore cause they own a Tupac starter kit matching bandana and bullet holes to match, save it. This might delight the mallsters or white suburban kids itching for release from the plastic world but how does this fool grown arse men? These are cowards lower than mole men, some even federal snitches (and you know who you are) e-pill poppin', liquor salesman and manwhore pimp wannabees who probably take it in the pooper for their label heads. It would be "gangsta" if they stood up like men and confronted some real issues but they too busy being hot boyz to never men. The music I've endured for the last couple of years isn't even grounds for hip hop it's "Slobbage" low quality. Atleast if you gonna' rep. what's happenin' in the streets be a man and balance that situation. Street life is apart of real life but we don't need a superthug hero to save the day on CD only to wake up to life as we hoe it! I know that the marketing directors and and A&R's will never let another X-clan, Paris, PE Or Even A Digable Planets for that matter sign a major contract it's obvious they want us to emulate these Brute Ox savages who shine on B.E.T. MTV & Alike. I grew up in the essence of hip hop and I feel sorry for these younger cats growin' up seein' this thinkin' that this is what it's all about. Rap is definitely outta' control...I think we should elevate and innovate like we did with jazz and soul and move on to a new artform of our own doing...maybe we can make some bionic-hop bigger, better, stronger and much more elightening music. There's a hand full of cats outthere today that I do respect Dead Prez, MosDef, Talib, Roots, Common, All Things Wu-Tang...but again the balance is off and all that's left is to Get Right!

[Rebel Queen]

First off these so called gangsta rappers ( not worthy of M.C. status) are frauds and whores for the industry who act as sonic agents to distort the self image of our youth. If you listen to these "herbs" you might believe 90% of black males are handi-cap drug dealers who inbetween being shot and running from po-lice have time to floss in insecurity mobiles like bentleys, benz's and beemers while smaking some double jointed stripper on the arse in route to the bahama's. These are not men by any means they're merely puppets used to misdirect the energy and spirit of our youth. So you got shot 9 times and this cat got shot 5 big deal...where did you go from there? You're a gangsta' clubbin' but can't leave your house without 18 big body guards ( off duty cops at that) and your platinum chain spins...big f*ckin' deal. Frontin' crazy hardcore cause they own a Tupac starter kit matching bandana and bullet holes to match, save it. This might delight the mallsters or white suburban kids itching for release from the plastic world but how does this fool grown arse men? These are cowards lower than mole men, some even federal snitches (and you know who you are) e-pill poppin', liquor salesman and manwhore pimp wannabees who probably take it in the pooper for their label heads. It would be "gangsta" if they stood up like men and confronted some real issues but they too busy being hot boyz to never men. The music I've endured for the last couple of years isn't even grounds for hip hop it's "Slobbage" low quality. Atleast if you gonna' rep. what's happenin' in the streets be a man and balance that situation. Street life is apart of real life but we don't need a superthug hero to save the day on CD only to wake up to life as we hoe it! I know that the marketing directors and and A&R's will never let another X-clan, Paris, PE Or Even A Digable Planets for that matter sign a major contract it's obvious they want us to emulate these Brute Ox savages who shine on B.E.T. MTV & Alike. I grew up in the essence of hip hop and I feel sorry for these younger cats growin' up seein' this thinkin' that this is what it's all about. Rap is definitely outta' control...I think we should elevate and innovate like we did with jazz and soul and move on to a new artform of our own doing...maybe we can make some bionic-hop bigger, better, stronger and much more elightening music. There's a hand full of cats outthere today that I do respect Dead Prez, MosDef, Talib, Roots, Common, All Things Wu-Tang...but again the balance is off and all that's left is to Get Right!

Daisho YOU are so on point with this. The new age rappers that we see on BET and MTV do nothing but put a stain on hip hop. I dont watch BET or any of that ish and i would never support these wack boys who think theyre saying something. They aint saying s*** and i think they should be ashamed of themselves. This is why KRS one had to put Nelly in his place cause he had absolutley no respect for the rap game. He had no clue about what the real brothers had to go thru to let there voices be heard. i dont know all there is to know about rap music, but i do know some of the older school brothers who can throw down and then of course today the concious rappers get my support because they are actually saying something. Now these gangbanging rappers who talk so much ish about killing off the next black man as if we aint got enough people after us as it is...They talking but they aint said a damn thing yet. All theyre doing is digging an early grave for themselves. And whats so sad is that when other people hear that ish they sit in there homes laughing at us. Why? Cause they dont have to worry about killing us if we already doing it for them. If they want to use music as a vehicle to turn this ish right side up again then maybe they should take lessons from the likes of , KRS One or Dead pres, or Common, or any other concious rapper who gives us something to think about... When brothers can get paid for talking about there white t's or there new uptowns then you know something is wrong. Then the men higher up get paid ten times what they getting paid. This industry aint doing nothing but cheating them into cheating themselves and theyre playing that game so well. I dont know if THEY will ever really get it but i KNOW the ones that do get my support.

[Rebel Queen]

Im not down with the battling ish but i do believe that krs one put him in his place at least for the moment.
Read This:

KRS-One On Nelly: 'I Can Slap Him Around For Days'
05.17.2002
Blastmaster calls for boycott of Nelly's new album.
KRS-One
Photo: Koch

For once, Eminem can breathe easy when he hears that people are rallying to have a rapper's album banned.

The usually lovable Nelly — who is dropping Nellyville on June 25 — has made an enemy of KRS-One, and the Blastmaster

"[Nelly] came out with a record and tried to punk me on the block." — KRS-One
KRS-One on how the "battle" with him and Nelly started
KRS-One on the art of battling
is calling for a boycott of the rapper's album.

"Nelly challenged a sovereign power," KRS said Wednesday of his latest vocal adversary. "The MC part of it, I can slap him around for days. I got joints for days!"

The microphone legend is certainly not inhibited, especially when talking of his iconic battle-rhyme dexterity. On "Ova Here," the incendiary first joint from KRS' September release, Kristyle, the MC calls out the St. Louis representer's name, tells him his style "sounds like 'NSYNC commercial," and calls for fans of "real hip-hop" to go boo Nelly at shows and shun his album.

"The boycott, that's the will of God," the Bronx native explained. "I said, 'Yo, we should boycott Universal Records and Nelly to send a message to the recording corporations of the United States that says there are people in hip-hop culture who, if they say this is wack, you lose sales. We need to take that stance and let these corporations know hip-hop is a viable culture.

"You can't jerk us, give us contracts that don't make no sense, then turn around and give contracts to artists that dis their communities," he added. "Tell Universal to tell their artist the rules before he goes around yapping, trying to dis those that have paved the way for him to be there."

The battle — which pits hall-of-famer against current superstar, youth against experience and sexy party anthems against conscious commentary — apparently happened over a misunderstanding and misleading hype.

"I was basically answering a lot of cats that say, 'KRS is always talking about real hip-hop and fake hip-hop,' " he explained of his lyrics on the underground track "Clear 'Em Out," which appears on the compilation The Difference (see "KRS-One Attacks Pop Rap On Underground Compilation"). " 'Who is he to say what's real and fake hip-hop? He needs to come with a hit record.' I wrote my lyrics to combat that. So the record '#1' comes out and [Nelly] says, 'I'm tired of rappers talking what's real hip-hop and them be the n-----s that their album flopped.' "

KRS, who doesn't realistically think his proposed ban will greatly affect Nelly's sales, said people mistook his lyrics, "You tired of me saying what's real hip-hop/ Well I'm tired of you biting my sh-- to go pop," and "Sales don't make you the authority/ It only means you sold out to the white majority," as a poke at Nelly since it was released after "#1." However, he penned his words way before he even heard about Nelly's track. Fueling the fire was a press release from Official Jointz, the company distributing The Difference, put out with a confirmation that the former leader of Boogie Down Productions was coming at Nelly.

"I have 16 years of history in hip-hop," KRS said. "When I dis somebody, I say the [rapper's] name, the name of the crew and possibly the label and we go all at it. Every battle rhyme I put out, that was my basic stance. [Official Jointz] was hyping it to sell more records. I kept downplaying it."

KRS went so far as to explain the situation to Nelly's camp and circulate an e-mail letter saying he didn't want any beef with Nelly and had no ill feelings toward the multiplatinum rapper.

Either Nelly didn't get the message or didn't believe KRS' sincerity, because he recently struck back with a scathing collection of words aimed at the Blastmaster on the remix to "Roc the Mic" (see "Freeway Gets Nelly For KRS-One Dis Track, Wants Cats To Feel His LP").

"When I heard the 'Roc the Mic' remix, I said 'You know what, let me get this cat,' " KRS remembered. "It was the whole street thing. If somebody slapped you in your face the whole block is gonna start slapping you, trying to punk you on the block. He came out with a record and tried to punk me on the block."

"Nelly is humble as hell, it would be something to just tick my man off," said St. Lunatics member Murphy Lee, who also rhymes on the "Roc the Mic" remix. "It was like KRS-One said something first. It was never Nelly come out and just [dis him]. The man is just tired. He had to defend himself. He's like, 'My career probably wouldn't be here if it wasn't for KRS-One,' that's what Nelly is on. My man got tired of critics and made a song '#1.' He wasn't specifically talking about nobody, but if the shoe fits, wear it."

KRS said he's not averse to ending his call for fans to boycott Nelly. All the Band-Aid-wearing rapper has to do, KRS-One said, is adhere to the rules stated in the Temple of Hip-Hop's Declaration of Peace. The organization KRS founded follows 18 guidelines, which it calls "Overstandings." Among them are calls to denounce prejudice, encourage the remembrances of ancestors and appreciate the hip-hop culture.

"Best thing he can do is accept the Hip-Hop Declaration of Peace and I will lift my ban," he promised. "Yes, errors were made. But this is how we squash our differences."

— Shaheem Reid

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/145...17/story.jhtml

[SoularFlarez]

HIPHOP can breathe LIFE bak into tha youth but it has to b under OUR control....tha beats,tha rhymes,tha distrubution..all that shyt...have to b independent..mixtapes (indendents) are tha future !!

[Rebel Queen]

HIPHOP can breathe LIFE bak into tha youth but it has to b under OUR control....tha beats,tha rhymes,tha distrubution..all that shyt...have to b independent..mixtapes (indendents) are tha future !!

Mosdef!!!

[Sun Ship]

I’m really sort of tired of these tennis shoe pimps and would-be gangsters…

We have problems with the word “nigger” but we accept and adopt the word “gangsta”.

Who are they gangsterin’?

Who fears the gangsta’, besides little old women who flowers they step on and sidewalks they piss on. If their grandmothers, mothers and other females stopped feeding and taking care of the majority of these young brothers many of them would be destitute and homeless.

There is only one legacy of gangsters and OG’s in the modern world and that is from king George to George Washington to George Bush…for the Europeans have “gangstered” the world…they have definitely put the G in gangster. This idea of being a gangster is Hollywoodish and childish…it’s like when we use to play cops and robbers as a child. The maturity of younger Black men has been
thwarted by this foolishness…basically these brothers have been turned into “boys” forever…

This gangster (rap) phenomenon is “tricknology” at its finest!

[Guerilla Black]

So what is hiphop to you?

[Daisho]

So what is hiphop to you?

Hip Hop to me, is the manifestation of no-thing-ness into being. Basically when we had no art or music instruments or instruction on the use via schools we made our own. The art of M.C.'n, Dancin', Graf. & D.J.'n. Hip Hop is the voice of the grassroots people on the street. Hip Hop is a language I can speak across every state and be understood despite our slang or lingo being different. Hip Hop to me is in essence sincerity, struggle anthems, party anthems...party struggle spirit elevation music. Hip Hop is not corporate pimped fashionable when television declares it "hip" it's not being shot 15 times only to glorify it while hiding in your mansion from reality you claim to dominate and P-I-M-P. It's not Crunk, lil bo's and Big Sams, It's not nursery rhymes or B*tches for B*tches sake. It's Balanced not coached or ghost writin' copy written but still biten. Hip Hop is versatile, more than one style, free style & style freeing. Hip Hop is Heavy Mental, The movement Civil Rights forgot or was too busy being bougie to boogie to. Hip Hop is the Freshest Kids...if you don't own it rent it...hip hop is Wild Style don't own it buy it for ya' own mental sake. Hip Hop is redemption song after redemption song to war song battle cry! Hip Hop is not Shaytan Israeli greasing up for kicks to hit off down low brotha's in his executive suite before signing them to a production deal worth $400,000 but payable after recouping $4,000,000. I'm rambling...and I'm chilling. I could go on and on till the break of dawn. Peace and pistol grease....What was the last CD that Challenged or Inspired your way of thinking and approaching life?

[Guerilla Black]

Why must hiphop challenge or inspire your way of life?

[Daisho]

Why must hiphop challenge or inspire your way of life?

What is the mission of art if not to challenge or inspire? What is a good account of Hip Hops past mission if not inspiring, informing or challenging? R&B wasn't accountable but at a time hip hop was. Now it's a marketing scheme...it's selling everything but the notion of no sell out. If Hip Hop is of the people and by the people but the people are being rail roaded into obscurity and endless debt with no relief in sight then has it not like many of the people losts its way? I don't expect or suspect that hip hop is some sort of ghetto savior don't get me twisted. What I'm saying is as a counter culture how can it say it's counter if it's mimmicking the dominant culture...the market driven product first ask how you'll pay for it later american cultural asthetic? Why must Hip Hop Challenge because that's what it was born to do and at it's finest hour that's what it did. Why should it inspire...because the youth are starving, the middle class black america has left the hood, the whole world is watching and expecting blacks in this country to be the revolutionary vanguard. This is why. And you still haven't answered my question...lol.

[New Dwaben Chief]

I know a lot of people blame NWA for messing up the rap game but I think they opened up the eyes of a lot of people. When Gangsta rap first came out some people had no clue of what was going on in the hood, some people didn't understand the mentality of some young black males in the hood. After they came out people were like "Damn it's like that?". It had politicians outraged, police upset etc. If someone really wanted to know the problems in the hood all they had to do was pop in a Ice T or NWA tape and they could really find out what was up. You can sit down and take some notes because these rappers were saying whats wrong...

"*****es ain't shit"

"I'll rob a nigga"

"Fuck these hoes"

"Papa wasn't home, raised by pimps and hustlers"

I don't mind gangsta rap the genre, but I have a problem with gangsta rap being the only hip hop genre on the market. If you ain't talking about slapping somebody in the club then you aren't going to get played on the airwaves. Thats weak, I wouldn't have a problem if concious hip hop groups, back packers got some love on the airwaves because it shows the diversity of us as a people.