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I'm sure a lot of you in here have had a racial discussion with a white person right? And you know how it usually goes... "Africans had slaves" "You weren't a slave" "My parents don't own slaves" "Get over it. It was a long time ago"... All that bull-s*** right? lol. Anyway, I'm talking to this uppity young devil at the library the other day and he loved to play the 13th Amendment card. "The 13th Amendment freed the slaves dude! Look it up!" So I did, and I must say that I've never seen a greater example of devilishment. Here's what it says:

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

From my point of view, this thing says that slavery is still ok in jail. If there was ever a reason as to why pigs and gov. treat us the way they do, I think this is it. They put you back in slavery everytime they put them handcuffs on you... Anyway, to my question. Anybody know of any big companies/corporations that exploit prison labor?
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I'm sure a lot of you in here have had a racial discussion with a white person right? And you know how it usually goes... "Africans had slaves" "You weren't a slave" "My parents don't own slaves" "Get over it. It was a long time ago"... All that bull-s*** right? lol. Anyway, I'm talking to this uppity young devil at the library the other day and he loved to play the 13th Amendment card. "The 13th Amendment freed the slaves dude! Look it up!" So I did, and I must say that I've never seen a greater example of devilishment. Here's what it says:

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

From my point of view, this thing says that slavery is still ok in jail. If there was ever a reason as to why pigs and gov. treat us the way they do, I think this is it. They put you back in slavery everytime they put them handcuffs on you... Anyway, to my question. Anybody know of any big companies/corporations that exploit prison labor?
There are several items that are being produced in prison. Some of the items are clothing,shoes,furniture,aircraft parts,eyewear and circuit boards. These products i mentioned are produced for companies such as Chevron, IBM, Motorola, Compaq, Texas Instruments, Honeywell, Microsoft, Victoria's Secret and Boeing. I think Nike uses prisoners to make sneaker parts.
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And you know how it usually goes... "Africans had slaves"
I've hear a bunch of brainwashed coon black christians say this more often then I hear whites say it.


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Companies that make benefits from prison labor are numerous & usually unknown to the public because they hide behind subcontractors, as a consequence an exhaustive list is hard to find but here are some : AT&T, Golden arches makes electronic menu boards for McDonalds, TWA, J.C. Penny, IBM, Toys R Us, Escod Industries, Dell Computers, 100% of all army helmets, ammunition cases, body armor, I.D. tags, shirts and pants, tarps and canteen covers exactly like Nazi used to do...!

Federal convicts are 'hired' by UNICOR Federal Prison Industries, Inc. "Clothing and Textiles," "Electronics," "Fleet Management," "Industrial Products," "Office Furniture," Recycling" and "Services" more than thirty different products; from law enforcement, military and industrial uniforms to the refurbishing of vehicles; from making draperies to providing fulfillment services (www.unicor.gov)


But don't we forget the private prison sector , where corporations such as Correctional Corporations of America (CCA) & Geo Group CIA affialated (previously known as Wackenhut Corrections Corp) are paid up to 60$ per day/per man to held our brothers & sisters captives. Prison privatization has the support of everyone from Bill Clinton to the Republican right. Some of the country's biggest corporations are investing in the business, including American Express and Goldman Sachs & Co, Merrill-Lynch, Shearson-Lehman or even Sodexho a large French food services and management services.

"Stock in CCA has quadrupled in the past four years. And these companies wield growing political clout: CCA, together with Wackenhut Corrections Corp., gave almost $150,000 in campaign contributions to Republicans and Democrats in 1995-96.
From 1995 to 1998 it was among the five top performing stocks on the NY Stock Exchange. Founded in 1983, the value of its stock rose from $50 million in 1986 (when it went public) to $53.5 BILLION IN 1997.
Its careful selection of the most lucrative prison contracts, its use of prison labor and its slashing of labor costs led the Wall Street firm of Paine-Webber to conclude, "Crime pays."

"Prison labor has its roots in slavery. After the Civil War, a system of "convict leasing" was introduced to carry on the slavery "tradition." Freed slaves were convicted of not fulfilling sharecropper arrangements or of petty theft — guilty or not — and then "rented out" to pick cotton, work in the mines, and build the railroads. In Georgia, from 1870 to 1910, 88% of the "leased convicts" were black. In Alabama, 93% of the "leased" miners were black. In Mississippi, a huge prison farm similar to the old slave plantations replaced convict leasing. The infamous Parchman Farm existed until 1972."

PLP Prison Pamphlet (February 2000)


Who said slavery has been abolished? Indeed the 13th amendment gives no room for doubt..!
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CCA 2007 ANNUAL REPORT http://http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/CXW/352096192x0x191161/649DDAB3-F7B5-409C-B3E2-7522619B2065/CXW_2007AR.pdf

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Focus on the Future
We believe CCA has significant opportunities to
build shareholder value in the future. Our
potential market is large and has a number of
positive attributes that favor continued growth.
The prison industry represents over $61 billion in
potential revenue in the United States, and
private prison operators have only a 7.2%
penetration rate. Many public prisons are
overcrowded, and new capacity is constrained by
long lead times to deliver new beds. In addition,
demographic trends point to higher prison
populations which are compounding this cycle.
CCA currently has more than 10,700 beds under
development and approximately 3,500 existing
available beds to meet customers’ immediate and
future needs. We plan to invest in excess of $730
million in new prison construction for the beds we
currently have under development. We are
uniquely positioned to capitalize on these
favorable trends to develop new facilities at
excellent returns and without compromising our
strong balance sheet. We believe this will result in
expanded opportunities to grow earnings and cash
flow in the coming years.
We remain focused on improving the delivery of
services throughout our facilities. Our goal is to
enhance safety and security while improving our
operating efficiencies. CCA’s founders were bold
entrepreneurs who had a pioneering vision of
privatizing prisons. Their founding ideals of
innovation, adaptability and quality are mirrored
today in our establishment of CCA’s correctional
facility prototype, implementation of direct
supervision inmate management, and the
adoption of new technologies to provide
innovative security and data management. We
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successful in implementing new programs that we
believe will have a positive impact on our
operations and profitability in the future.
We expect 2008 to be another strong year for
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to be favorably impacted by growing demand for
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you also don't get reparations....in the same constitution

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I'm sure a lot of you in here have had a racial discussion with a white person right? And you know how it usually goes... "Africans had slaves" "You weren't a slave" "My parents don't own slaves" "Get over it. It was a long time ago"... All that bull-s*** right? lol. Anyway, I'm talking to this uppity young devil at the library the other day and he loved to play the 13th Amendment card. "The 13th Amendment freed the slaves dude! Look it up!" So I did, and I must say that I've never seen a greater example of devilishment. Here's what it says:

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

From my point of view, this thing says that slavery is still ok in jail. If there was ever a reason as to why pigs and gov. treat us the way they do, I think this is it. They put you back in slavery everytime they put them handcuffs on you... Anyway, to my question. Anybody know of any big companies/corporations that exploit prison labor?
You also can't be president if your ancestors where slaves

Amendment 13 section 4.

4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Article. II. - The Executive Branch

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Barrack Obama doesn't have ties to slavery.

The son of a Kenyan father and an American mother, Obama has to play his cards carefully. His constituency in Illinois expect him to tackle issues in that state, while in his father's native home in Nyanza, residents babble with hope that their native son's victory means at long last they will say goodbye to poverty.
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I'm sure a lot of you in here have had a racial discussion with a white person right? And you know how it usually goes... "Africans had slaves" "You weren't a slave" "My parents don't own slaves" "Get over it. It was a long time ago"... All that bull-s*** right? lol. Anyway, I'm talking to this uppity young devil at the library the other day and he loved to play the 13th Amendment card. "The 13th Amendment freed the slaves dude! Look it up!" So I did, and I must say that I've never seen a greater example of devilishment. Here's what it says:

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

From my point of view, this thing says that slavery is still ok in jail. If there was ever a reason as to why pigs and gov. treat us the way they do, I think this is it. They put you back in slavery everytime they put them handcuffs on you... Anyway, to my question. Anybody know of any big companies/corporations that exploit prison labor?
So, now what?
NOw that you've had these 'conversations with the devil'?
You've 'discovered his trickology'?

Now what?
What Now?





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"Prison labor has its roots in slavery. After the Civil War, a system of "convict leasing" was introduced to carry on the slavery "tradition." Freed slaves were convicted of not fulfilling sharecropper arrangements or of petty theft — guilty or not — and then "rented out" to pick cotton, work in the mines, and build the railroads. In Georgia, from 1870 to 1910, 88% of the "leased convicts" were black. In Alabama, 93% of the "leased" miners were black. In Mississippi, a huge prison farm similar to the old slave plantations replaced convict leasing. The infamous Parchman Farm existed until 1972."

PLP Prison Pamphlet (February 2000)


Who said slavery has been abolished? Indeed the 13th amendment gives no room for doubt..!
Thanks for this thorough post. This is the subtle information that many of our people never receive or seek out. Once you understand that life was not all peachy after slavery, that there were many, if not more obstacles and barriers presented to our strong ancestors, it is not difficult to see how slavery subtly morphed into something more psychologically dangerous. This seemingly comfortable situation Africans in america have found ourselves in is more dangerous psychologically because many of our brothers and sisters can see is that the physical chains are off of our bodies.
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I try not to get into these needless debates with these devils.

They will just never understand or try to understand the fact that slavery is still alive and well. I have been in debates when I brought up the prison thing and they just spew out

"Well if you don't do anything wrong you shouldn't be worried"

This is also a mentality that many of our own people think with. But then you have what we all see on a daily bases which is racial profiling......What I like to call

"NEW SLAVE SHOPPING"

But I still just shake my head at a dumb cracker that tries to debate when they aren't using facts but just handed down racism to argue there point.
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So, now what?
NOw that you've had these 'conversations with the devil'?
You've 'discovered his trickology'?

Now what?
What Now?





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I don't know what kinda sh** you on my dude with all the questions and quotations, but I'm just simply sharing my point of view with the fam on these forums. God Degree for thought. No need for the sarcasm, homeslice... And I've known of the colored man's tricknollogy for some time now. Well before I "had these 'conversations with the devil'".
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I try not to get into these needless debates with these devils.

They will just never understand or try to understand the fact that slavery is still alive and well. I have been in debates when I brought up the prison thing and they just spew out

"Well if you don't do anything wrong you shouldn't be worried"

This is also a mentality that many of our own people think with. But then you have what we all see on a daily bases which is racial profiling......What I like to call

"NEW SLAVE SHOPPING"

But I still just shake my head at a dumb cracker that tries to debate when they aren't using facts but just handed down racism to argue there point.
Indeed. I think that a lot of these argumentative type whites actually do know about the foul things that go on and they just spit all these fly sounding "facts" to mask some guilt on their end. Or just to make their forefathers seem more pious than they actually are. Either way, whuteva, lol...
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No need for the sarcasm, homeslice".

Yes the sarcastic tone is not needed in as much as we are all students of each other, even at my age I learn constantly! Simultaneously, the question is relevant, of course without the harsh tone. Now that we are here acknowledging the devil's uncivilization, how do we add on to the positive to bring us out of a condition where our enemy cannot enslave us further?

As a former Broadcast Journalist I uncovered some info on the Prison systems. It seems that these punks build prisons ahead of time after having done a sociological survey of various geographical area for "potential" prisoners! Yes they use an analysis provided by various sciences to determine how many folks they will incarcerate and then build accordingly! Now as for us the determinant question is, Are going to behave in a way that does not lead us to be their chattel slaves. Understanding they either want you in submission or dead, so in my opinion the only prisoners that should exist are political ones!

Unfortunately too many of us submit as opposed to resist. We proudly wear targets on our backs and await the beast to come and collect us. We participate in the game that they have set for us! Worst than that those of us who know remain in a box and refuse to teach those of us who don't, we rehash information amongst those who already have the information! This is a bit of mental incarceration as well. In my opinion unless we the enlightened use our light to enlighten others we are useless. We argue amongst ourselves as opposed to quietly going about the business of revolution, teaching the masses who need this info. These jackasses will never stop, but we can stop them!!!
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Yes the sarcastic tone is not needed in as much as we are all students of each other, even at my age I learn constantly! Simultaneously, the question is relevant, of course without the harsh tone. Now that we are here acknowledging the devil's uncivilization, how do we add on to the positive to bring us out of a condition where our enemy cannot enslave us further?

As a former Broadcast Journalist I uncovered some info on the Prison systems. It seems that these punks build prisons ahead of time after having done a sociological survey of various geographical area for "potential" prisoners! Yes they use an analysis provided by various sciences to determine how many folks they will incarcerate and then build accordingly! Now as for us the determinant question is, Are going to behave in a way that does not lead us to be their chattel slaves. Understanding they either want you in submission or dead, so in my opinion the only prisoners that should exist are political ones!

Unfortunately too many of us submit as opposed to resist. We proudly wear targets on our backs and await the beast to come and collect us. We participate in the game that they have set for us! Worst than that those of us who know remain in a box and refuse to teach those of us who don't, we rehash information amongst those who already have the information! This is a bit of mental incarceration as well. In my opinion unless we the enlightened use our light to enlighten others we are useless. We argue amongst ourselves as opposed to quietly going about the business of revolution, teaching the masses who need this info. These jackasses will never stop, but we can stop them!!!
I think, first off, we need a change of thinking. The knowledge we pick up from the neighborhood and family, school, and media is that wrong food that we're digesting. Knowledge of self and unity are the foundation. We also need that $. How can we build if we got no green? A lot of brothers/sistas get locked up for going the illegal route to eat. A lot of brothers/sistas also get locked up behind promiscuous women/men (some of us are TOO emotional these days). Gotta get a hold on that and get the mind right.

There's more to add on, but the last thing I'll mention is we need to "grow some balls" and start ridin. Pigs come in the hood and do whatever they want because they know we ain't gon' do nothin. But seeing as police were originally used after the "Emancipation Proclamation" to keep freed slaves afraid to revolt, we can get a gist as to why we don't wanna bang out with po-po's. I say we need to get over it and drop that Black Power Fist down on anybody that poses a threat.

HOW can we get these, amongst other things, to happen? I don't really know. I'm just bringing as many brothers into the fold as I can and living life according to what I know... Peace
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Bro. Majadi, asante sana for these really excellent points! i think even those of us who have this information still believe somewhere deep in our subconscious that this shitstem ain't gonna touch us, not in any real way, so we use this for entertainment purposes only. We need to build a Pan-Afrikan Emergency Response Network. We need to respond to Action Alerts, for example. We need to be using this incredible wealth of revolutionary information to do workshops, print up pamphlets, do radio/tv shows, spread the word however we can to break chinks into our peoples' collective consciousness. We gotta be able to stream our propaganda as heavily as the enemies of our people stream theirs!



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