Police Counter-Insurgency Against Black Youth: A Need of a National Conversation

[megablast]

I made a comment in a Hood News post and I was asked to re-post it in this open forum to hopefully spark a larger conversation..

There seems to be a step-up in police counter-insurgency in our communities. Being clear the counter-insurgency from the 60/70's never stopped but just changed how it rationalized its brutality. (i.e... a War on Drugs, a War on Gangs, a War on Terror)

It seemed, however, that beast was more inclined to incarcerate and warehouse our youth than outright murder as it was seen as old school and unsophisticated. (Think how white folk were embarrassed by the outright white supremacy of southern vs the subtle, structural white supremacy of the north..)

Any way to get to the point... there have been at least 4 high profile killings that have made national news.. which suggests that there are more..thus the need for a national conversation...

1. Marquis Randle, a victim of an unwarranted police shooting in November that may leave him partially paralyzed. (New Jersey) (click here)


2. Javon Dawson (Petersburg, FL) Uhuru News


3. Sean Bell (NYC)

4. DeOnte Rawlings (DC) click here

Additionally...in DC.. the police have started using fascist check points to isolate communities that have high crime rates as a rationale to combat crime. (click here)

Basic assumptions.. 1. a recurring incident is not an accident, 2. police brutality is not about a few bad cops, 3. law enforcement gets its direction from a/the ruling class, 4. counter-insurgency is the basic policy of the police towards African communities.. (Omali Yeshitela)

Question...

what are the trends/connections that are influencing the step-up in counter-insurgency?

what strategies do we as the "conscious" of our community need to be doing to organize against this step-up in counter-insurgency?

[It's All Good]

"Being clear the counter-insurgency from the 60/70's never stopped but just changed how it rationalized its brutality"


"60/70" what
1660-1670?

1860-1870?

or possibly, youre a real deep brother and are referring to 60/70 B.C.?




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[nattyreb]

Asante sana for posting that here, megablast! Your questions are sooo on time, there's no easy answer cuz they are so profound!

Originally Posted by megablast

what are the trends/connections that are influencing the step-up in counter-insurgency?

what strategies do we as the "conscious" of our community need to be doing to organize against this step-up in counter-insurgency?

There are so many different ways to come at this, but my instinct toward the step-up in the counter-insurgency is that it is fueled by CORPORATE GREED and PURE HATE. These pigs are being activated to a new level of suppression because they want to firm-up their complete dominance over any type of potential resistance building up amongst the youth. They are protecting their class interests by increasing their terrorist attacks against Blacks, Latinos and poor whites. Keeping any form of resistance tamped down, in its place, particularly with this huge anti-gov't sentiment happening now.

Strategies have to include stepped-up and complete re-education in a major way. i mean from A-Z, from "How to Eat to Live" to "The Art of War" we got so much information out here it's dizzying, we need to be busier than ever building a sustainable movement, doing P.E., having regular meetings that start and end on time and actually handle business and not just argue! If these existing org.s can't get past some bullshit disagreements that came between them a decade ago than later for them, young folk gotta create their own orgs just like Chairman Fred's POCC, if it's broke then do something better! We've had organizations with a hundred members and only 3 people doing all the work, so why not just have an organization with 3 people doing all the work from the giddyup and be *consistent* so that dedicated folks will eventually come on board, work *in the community* doing concrete on the ground efforts like food and clothing drives, let our people see that we are serious about not selling them out as they've seen time and time and worthless time again.

We can't allow our people to continue to believe in this political shit-stem as they now cling to Obama and others as any type of guiding light, it's a SHAM, a HOAX, and unless it's at the most local of levels it won't achieve any real difference. Putting lipstick on this babylon harlot won't make it any less a damn pig. That b.s. about our ancestors fighting and dying for our right to vote is just that because our ancestors fought and died for us to make PROGRESS, if it's not making PROGRESS for us, then our ancestors would expect us to do something DIFFERENT! They want us to live and not die!

i hope others will chime in, asante sana for the posting!

[MsLioness]

Originally Posted by megablast

Question...

what are the trends/connections that are influencing the step-up in counter-insurgency?

what strategies do we as the "conscious" of our community need to be doing to organize against this step-up in counter-insurgency?

I forgot which one of our revolutionaries have said it, but, someone said, "Every time America goes to war, Black communities organize."

I think the entertainment business and government, in general, people with the seat of power, are doing their best to drown out our cries and water down our efforts. Truly, I agree with Sis NattyReb, that if our organizations can get past the little things, we can make a big and heavy step.

To me, this does not mean to put down our philosophies and stop organizing in our own ways, but to be the best at what we say we do. There is no problem with a Hebrew Israelite doing what he does, or a Panther doing what he does, or a Muslim doing what he does, or a Christian doing what he does...no, we need to do what we say we are here to do. If we say we are trying to liberate our people, then we need to organize and do what we say we are going to do. Competition is good...as long as its good competition. We have to form a United Nations, or whatever, of our black groups of liberation. We have to have checks and balances and know what we say we are is what we must be and nothing less.

I think such an initiative is real, and destined to happen because our people desperately need it. We have to drop the un-important stuff...and get in whats good. If we generally know something, there is no reason to pay to put a copyright on it...THATS how educated we have to become. Freedom- getting has to become a part of general knowledge, for us...no quotes.

Forward.

[Jalili]

Originally Posted by It's All Good

"Being clear the counter-insurgency from the 60/70's never stopped but just changed how it rationalized its brutality"


"60/70" what
1660-1670?

1860-1870?

or possibly, youre a real deep brother and are referring to 60/70 B.C.?




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Look, if you only want to come here to make cynical remarks when some one makes any type of statement............you can find the log out button or get LOGGED OUT

You do this too often just to bring attention to yourself and take away from the discussion at hand. I suggest you come up with a better way to express your thoughts.

[megablast]

i was referring to 1960...which most recent memory for the living.. but one grounded in our history or simply read "The Destruction of Black Civilization" could argue 60/70 b.c. and not be off base...

ASHE

Originally Posted by It's All Good

"Being clear the counter-insurgency from the 60/70's never stopped but just changed how it rationalized its brutality"


"60/70" what
1660-1670?

1860-1870?

or possibly, youre a real deep brother and are referring to 60/70 B.C.?




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[megablast]

i cant speak to Its All Good's intentions.. whether cynical or not.. i interpreted them as a critical point on two levels...

1. Its All Good is right in suggesting that this nothing new and has been going on for centuries.. which is grounding and puts a perspective on it..

2. the comment about being a "deep brother" is also a sound critique of our movement that seems to delight in black radical intellectual masturbation..that leads nothing or at best a "book" and stint on the O'Reilly show.. while black youth continue to die..

but you are right that it shouldnt distract from the conversation.. which i imagined would lea to some action or the impetus for it..

so what i have heard .. is the need for a "united nations" of black organizations... which i agree with and have existed locally and nationally.. is that supposed to be the Black Radical Congress??

what should be the response from our community when stuff like this happens?? what is an effective response?

Originally Posted by Jalili

Look, if you only want to come here to make cynical remarks when some one makes any type of statement............you can find the log out button or get LOGGED OUT

You do this too often just to bring attention to yourself and take away from the discussion at hand. I suggest you come up with a better way to express your thoughts.

[It's All Good]

Originally Posted by megablast

i cant speak to Its All Good's intentions.. whether cynical or not.. i interpreted them as a critical point on two levels...

1. Its All Good is right in suggesting that this nothing new and has been going on for centuries.. which is grounding and puts a perspective on it..

2. the comment about being a "deep brother" is also a sound critique of our movement that seems to delight in black radical intellectual masturbation..that leads nothing or at best a "book" and stint on the O'Reilly show.. while black youth continue to die..

but you are right that it shouldnt distract from the conversation.. which i imagined would lea to some action or the impetus for it..

so what i have heard .. is the need for a "united nations" of black organizations... which i agree with and have existed locally and nationally.. is that supposed to be the Black Radical Congress??

what should be the response from our community when stuff like this happens?? what is an effective response?

I really hope that it's not the size of the font that infuriates: lol
I like your take on my comment. I apolgize for I am short winded.
I intended no distraction from the conversation, but a detonation or as you say "impetus".
To push it pass the "masturbation" stage.

The "reponse" should, as I see it, should be pre-emptive.
Reactionary planning or tactics is the bull putting the ring in it's own nose.

We see for centuries the story, it ain't changed.
Now to fix it.
We MUST grab Truth, whatever that should mean to each individual, by the horns and ride it for dear life.

The builds worldwide reputation, an endless value and a servicable pride.
It doesn't, as I am questioned about so often, it doesn't take any money, buildings, organizationalizing, or that other stuff we've been doing in mostly copycat fashion.

I know and understand it's simplicity, but it works marvelously!!!
Results guaranteed



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[megablast]

lol.. i appreciate your wit.. to be clear i wasnt saying that you were trying to make it go into intellectual mastburation.. but i was saying i understood your response was intended to do the opposite--prevent the conversation from being intellectual masturbation..

i absolutely agree your healthy aversion to reactionary planning.. which way i started the thread.. to be the impetus of the opposite..revolutionary planning.. so i was clear the middle class reactionary black leadership will plan its response.. a couple of vigils, a press conference, a lawsuit, cops get off, family gets paid off..civil rights leader get paid and validate their usefulness with black people.. while black youth continue to die

and you re right its been going on for centuries.. well, slavery went on for centuries.. that didnt mean that enslaved and free afrikans didnt fight tooth and nail as if this battle.. no matter how insignificant in the contemporary or historically.. would be the one that ended this damn nightmare.. so that is my spirit.. one to fight, with intelligence and passion, against seemly unsurmountable odds..to commit revolutionary suicide..believing that the foundation of the revolution must rest upon the bones of the oppressors..

so my thread was more of cry...a grabbing hold of a truth, that struggle and resistance is necessary and essential for liberation..and just some goddamn basic dignity..no matter how hyper masculine and gangsta we appear..black men are chumps..(sorry if it raises some partiarchial overtunes and offends some)

i am grabbing the truth that the ancestors fought believing that where their blood was shed a thousand more would raise in their place..we must fight back...

how are we going to do it? what are the strategies and tactics? what do we want? what should be our goals?

(to you and everyone else) i was asking a serious question expecting serious, rigorous debate with some concrete actions to emerge..i would insist so with a forum associated with Auntie Assata.. who believed like Che articulated that "the job of the revolutionary is to make revolution"

so i was conducting a brainstorm, like in a business meeting, to generate ideals i can take back and use and test out.. but my business to bring war to the beast..


Steel Sharpens Steel.

Originally Posted by It's All Good

I really hope that it's not the size of the font that infuriates: lol
I like your take on my comment. I apolgize for I am short winded.
I intended no distraction from the conversation, but a detonation or as you say "impetus".
To push it pass the "masturbation" stage.

The "reponse" should, as I see it, should be pre-emptive.
Reactionary planning or tactics is the bull putting the ring in it's own nose.

We see for centuries the story, it ain't changed.
Now to fix it.
We MUST grab Truth, whatever that should mean to each individual, by the horns and ride it for dear life.

The builds worldwide reputation, an endless value and a servicable pride.
It doesn't, as I am questioned about so often, it doesn't take any money, buildings, organizationalizing, or that other stuff we've been doing in mostly copycat fashion.

I know and understand it's simplicity, but it works marvelously!!!
Results guaranteed



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[It's All Good]

Good megablast.
I am going to hazard a reply to your posting even though I haved been threatened with being banned for my participation.

Let me say that this is a war of spirits.
Not physical, but Spiritual.
You, perhaps, already konw this, but let's not fail to keep it affront in our minds.
The mind is this the bond between the body and the Spirit.

Convince the body of its' enslavement, then he mind, the spirit will be outnumbered 2 to 1.
Convince the Spirit and then the mind, the body will be outnumbered and behave differently.
Otherwise the body, the mind and unfortunately the spirit will continue to comply.
Our bodies have been convinced over generations, our minds incarcerated by a 'slave society' and our spirit convinced of a foreign 'God'.
These are the facts, for centuries, generations.

Now to fix it.

the same rules, or "laws", apply,
Convince the body, forcefullly if neccessary, the mind, then the spirit.
Of, of course, the spirit can be convinced first, then the mind, as they say, "free the mind and the ass will follow".

Spiritual is not to be confused with "religious" however.
Spiritual is the science of our, or more exact my, ancestors.

For instance, how many "American blacks" do you think will NOT claim to have European ancestry, "somewhere"?
That's a game on the brain.

Our culture, our true culture has been ravaged and studied and played back on us.
Okay, what about the "Law of Polarities"?
That law that would make any thinking man opposite the racist term "black".
It immediately forces the "Law" into action and if, my powerful people, believe in "white people", then it's on like popcorn!

We put OURSELVES into lawlessness situations by not assuming our heritage of science.
Okaky?
There are many such laws.
the "Law of Lies".
wow, there's a "Law of Truth" too. They reckon the ionisphere and polarize us to certain reactionary forces that are not people or people controlled but will USE people to stabilize the effects that WE are creating with our acceptance of an enemy inspired reality.

What to do? Right.
Grab a Truth, or "Law", grab a "Cause", and Live and Die for them.
Find Truth to live for and a cause, don't live and die "just because"
That's the deal.

That will give you 'power".
We MUST generate "Power", spiritual power.
Acknowledgement of these laws, adherence to the ancestrial spirit, will give us the needed power to create our own reality.





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