"Sagging Pants" Law Ruled Unconstitutional

[nattyreb]

A fine just wasn't punishment enough, of course jail time had to be tested for this "offense"!
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'Sagging Pants' Law Ruled Unconstitutional - Orlando News Story - WKMG Orlando

RIVIERA BEACH, Fla. -- A judge in Riviera Beach has ruled a city law banning sagging pants is unconstitutional in the case of a 17-year-old who spent a night in jail for having his underwear exposed.

Circuit Judge Paul Moyle said that the law is unconstitutional "based on the limited facts" of the case.

Authorities charged Julius Hart last week when an officer spotted him riding his bicycle with 4 to 5 inches of boxer shorts sticking out of his pants.
In Riviera Beach, a first offense for sagging pants carries a $150 fine or a requirement of community service. Habitual offenders face the possibility of jail time.

Hart's lawyer, Carol Bickerstaff, said she wants the city to drop the law.

[BlackQueen]

Now the government is saying that sagging pants is "unconstitutional"?! What next? Wearing dreadlocks and Afrikan clothing?! The only thing sagging pants are is sloppy!

A fine just wasn't punishment enough, of course jail time had to be tested for this "offense"!
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'Sagging Pants' Law Ruled Unconstitutional - Orlando News Story - WKMG Orlando

RIVIERA BEACH, Fla. -- A judge in Riviera Beach has ruled a city law banning sagging pants is unconstitutional in the case of a 17-year-old who spent a night in jail for having his underwear exposed.

Circuit Judge Paul Moyle said that the law is unconstitutional "based on the limited facts" of the case.

Authorities charged Julius Hart last week when an officer spotted him riding his bicycle with 4 to 5 inches of boxer shorts sticking out of his pants.
In Riviera Beach, a first offense for sagging pants carries a $150 fine or a requirement of community service. Habitual offenders face the possibility of jail time.

Hart's lawyer, Carol Bickerstaff, said she wants the city to drop the law.

[nattyreb]

Yes, Sista, these laws are being enacted across the country as yet another way to isolate and target our young Bros. for the fast track down the prison pipeline.

Now the government is saying that sagging pants is "unconstitutional"?! What next? Wearing dreadlocks and Afrikan clothing?! The only thing sagging pants are is sloppy!

[Jalili]

I hate the idea of walking around with your pants hanging down BUT a law can not be made against it because once you go the the realm of trying to get everyone to dress a like (even if one side is dress very wrong under wear and body parts showing) you enter a totalitarian system.

It's all planned out anyway first the push it to our kids through the media then try to lock them away because of it.

[BlackQueen]

Like I said,I would be highly pissed off,but not surprised if the system made Afrikan clothing and dreadlocks "unlawful". To them,seeing any Black with either or both of thse elements means a potential threat to their stranglehold upon our people.

I hate the idea of walking around with your pants hanging down BUT a law can not be made against it because once you go the the realm of trying to get everyone to dress a like (even if one side is dress very wrong under wear and body parts showing) you enter a totalitarian system.

It's all planned out anyway first the push it to our kids through the media then try to lock them away because of it.

[nattyreb]

You make some great points, Bro., altho some standards of "decency" will always be on the books (or there could be outright nudity), but flimsy laws regarding sagging pants or other such frivolity are not applied evenly just as with any of their other pieces of toilet paper (laws) and cannot stand!

The sagging pants laws should be used by organizers in towns where they still exist as an example of how blatantly and specifically racially biased the shitstem is, and especially that to lock someone up in jail and give them a record on such a charge, instead of just a fine, is completely outrageous! Seize the time!

Thanks Bro.!

I hate the idea of walking around with your pants hanging down BUT a law can not be made against it because once you go the the realm of trying to get everyone to dress a like (even if one side is dress very wrong under wear and body parts showing) you enter a totalitarian system.

It's all planned out anyway first the push it to our kids through the media then try to lock them away because of it.

[nattyreb]

Two things come to mind:

1. After the bombing of MOVE people in 1985, people with dreadlocked hair were targetted by the police for capture and harassment.
2. Many Sistas who wore their hair braided several years ago were getting fired from their jobs and had to fight in kkkourt for the right to wear their hair the way they see fit. Of course the same goes for many other cultural/religious expressions in the workplace and in the prisons.

They want complete assimilation, and it they can't outright squash it, they will just imitate and dilute whatever the expression once was down to a meaningless pap like hip-hop elevator muzak. (blech)

Like I said,I would be highly pissed off,but not surprised if the system made Afrikan clothing and dreadlocks "unlawful". To them,seeing any Black with either or both of thse elements means a potential threat to their stranglehold upon our people.

[BlackQueen]

When it comes to fighting for the right to wear what you want or wearing your hair naturally,the justice shitstem is just that..shit!

Two things come to mind:

1. After the bombing of MOVE people in 1985, people with dreadlocked hair were targetted by the police for capture and harassment.
2. Many Sistas who wore their hair braided several years ago were getting fired from their jobs and had to fight in kkkourt for the right to wear their hair the way they see fit. Of course the same goes for many other cultural/religious expressions in the workplace and in the prisons.

They want complete assimilation, and it they can't outright squash it, they will just imitate and dilute whatever the expression once was down to a meaningless pap like hip-hop elevator muzak. (blech)

[G1deon]

.... Seize the time!

nuff said

...we all see it for what it is & how they're coming. Where's the NAACP and those types in all this... am I wrong in thinking they should be challenging this??

I heard they house the house-niggers, but is that how they want to be looked upon?!

[Jalili]

nuff said

...we all see it for what it is & how they're coming. Where's the NAACP and those types in all this... am I wrong in thinking they should be challenging this??

I heard they house the house-niggers, but is that how they want to be looked upon?!

Oh they are in full support of this from what I've heard some of them were probably in on the writing of these laws.

[nattyreb]

i'm googling up some URL's for y'all to check out right now, each are real short 1-page articles (and anyone else will definitely find more there are a bunch of 'em):

This link MO Officials Won't Support Sagging Pants-Total Injury is from a law firm and mentions the Hip Hop Action Network (Ben Chavis) as working with these types of cases. In MO the article states: "According to the law, youths who violate the law face a fine of up to $100, and their parents could be fined as much as $500 or face up to 90 days in jail." In Atlanta, it calls for the banning of exposed bra straps, as well!

This piece talks about the 10 states passing these laws with large fines and jail time of 90 days and above included: Saggy-pants laws no longer butt of jokes - News - inRich.com.

This insane petition is so poorly worded i can hardly figure out if they are calling for the boys to be jailed or what: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/req...g-pants-effort -- i'm sure there are similar calls for gov't intervention taking place all over the country by Black groups, many are just not on-line, and not always from churches, see here:
Style on Trial: Community leader is pushing for city law to ban the clothing style of sagging pants.

You're definitely not wrong in thinking this should be challenged and strenuously so!

...we all see it for what it is & how they're coming. Where's the NAACP and those types in all this... am I wrong in thinking they should be challenging this??