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Kwame Ture said white males make up the LEAST revolutionary component in society today.
Run it yungun, michael moore is now filthy rich. From a distance u see real threats to this system's conspirators. Remember the original "Rambo?" His name was/is Col. Bo Grise ex-Green Beret. Who served during the Viet Nam as a patriotic marine. Lo & behold he stumbled onto who, why where when and how the Opium/heroin industry operated. From high halls of Congress down to smugglers and distributors in Amerikkka. I'm sure his having been a top Green Beret helped him to escape the many attempts to kill him.

Michael Bradley wrote a book; he sought to discover why everywhere the White men went there was destruction. At the end of the book, he still was struggling with accepting what he'd found. And today he spends his time berating Dr. Francis C. Welsing's theories and writings.

Its valuable reading for those who still try to appeal to the conscious of Eu-rope-ans. But then maybe not b/c if the preponderence of historical of evidence isn't enuf to convince Afrikans in Amerikkka that the three "k's" are the trade mark, then what will? Another major RACE RIOT. A registered patent.

To hell with Michael Moore and all like him. We have overflowing numbers of Afrikans who have and do publish knowledge about the Nature of Eu-rope-an societies. As we know social includes individuals, who grow from social settings. Who said it: we are social beings....

It help to remember what Dr. Welsing said to an audience of White lawyers in Virginia in the 1980's that she was afraid of white men. Well I'm not afraid of'em but am aware of their histories. They will kill anything living.
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I have seen bowling for colombine and read stupid white men and have seen some of Farieheit 9/11. I will not deny that the information is useful, but that doesn't mean his is for Us. The White House gives some of the best information about themselves you can ask for, but I'm not under the impression that they are for Us. As Atheistic say the Bible is their best weapon against it, I say the same thing about white supremacy/America/Eurocentric-thought/White Nationalism. They offer undeniable proof why we should be against them.

Now to your questions:
Does this man expect our trust especially since he also belives white people cannot be trusted???
Yes, he expects Our trust. And I'm sure his has many of Our support. That is why he is able to openly write negatively about Mumia Abu-Jamal without being boycotted or an uproar from Our People or with a political consequence as Dr. Huey P. Newton said. He is similar to the porkchop preacher who preaches what Christians would call the truth, yet he/she only does that to get paid.

What do u think of this man and tell me what compelled you to spend your money on his books/documentaries?
I've never spend any money on this man.


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When i posted this article I thought the statements posted in Michael Moores article were very interesting especially coming from a white man. All kinda shyt popped in my head while i read it. hence the weird feeling cause u cant trust everyone even if they telling the truth...Just another way to make money, using us i guess.. Anyway i had my questions especially since aint noone telling the fucking truth and what he wrote in that article was indeed the truth. But one of things on my mind right now is, does this man expect our trust especially since he also belives white people cannot be trusted??? and what really makes him any different...because he writes about it.. hmmm I'm interested in hearing what yalll think especially those who have seen his documentaries and read his works... What do u think of this man and tell me what compelled you to spend your money on his books/documentaries?
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I'm the truth>>>as Dr. Huey P. Newton said. He is similar to the porkchop preacher who preaches what Christians would call the truth, yet he/she only does that to get paid.
Thats a good point that you made. So many of us put our time, energy and HOPE(theres that word again) into a man who promises to deliver us from evil yet they are the most evil because they are exploiting us for there own selfish gains. Did you know that blaxploitation is an actual word in the dictionary? Aint that some shit...
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Oh...Rebel's Queen...I forgot to tell you "Thank You" for posting this article. I thought it was both "true" and "funny."
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I have seen parts of Bowling for Columbine, and I have already see F-911. But I haven't read "stupid white men". Micheal Moore films and books are directed at white America, in my opinion. Unlike many white people who pontificate on the black expericence, he writes in the first person. Let me give an example. When europeans write about racism, they tend to separate themselves from what they are describing-white people don't see themselvs as a collective because white (European) culture is the invisable norm. Where as when black authors write about the black experience, pronouns such as I, We, and Us to describe the racial experience in personal terms are used. There are few white americans that write about race in a self conscious way to let you know that they are apart of the experience they are describing. So, that's what I get from Mike.

He may very well be a potiental ally, but I don't expect him to deliver us form evil, racism is white peoples internal problem, and they need to find a way to rehabilitate and allieviate themselves from this diease. But in another way, it's good to get inside insight of how the thought process works on the "otherside".

Authors like James Baldwin have long pontificated on white culture, in The Fire Next Time James says "White people in this country will have quite enough to do in learning how to accept and love themselves and each other, and when they have achieved this — which will not be tomorow and may very well be never — the Negro problem will no longer exist, for it will no longer be needed."

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Unlike many white people who pontificate on the black expericence, he writes in the first person. Let me give an example. When europeans write about racism, they tend to separate themselves from what they are describing-white people don't see themselvs as a collective because white (European) culture is the invisable norm. Where as when black authors write about the black experience, pronouns such as I, We, and Us to describe the racial experience in personal terms are used. There are few white americans that write about race in a self conscious way to let you know that they are apart of the experience they are describing. So, that's what I get from Mike.

He may very well be a potiental ally, but I don't expect him to deliver us form evil, racism is white peoples internal problem, and they need to find a way to rehabilitate and allieviate themselves form this diease.

Spitfire that was suchhh an excellent point. Made me think even more. And i really do agree with u. RACISM IS NOT AND WILL NEVER BE OUR PROBLEM!!!
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yeah i gotta head up north one day,well CANANDA not THAT ''upnorth'' lol

REBELQUEEN...well i wouldnt depend on whites to help us.cuz they can throw on a suit n tie,get hair cut n 4get bout the struggle,like them hippies probly all did when/if they sobered up
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when i first read that article by michael moore (i read Stupid White Men) i was almost crying cuz it was soooooooo funny. i thought the book was really informative (even thoiugh it was extremely biased), im not sure that all of the facts that he states in it about Bush are true though (and id like to find out).....but it was still really interesting and im glad i read it
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when i first read that article by michael moore (i read Stupid White Men) i was almost crying cuz it was soooooooo funny. i thought the book was really informative (even thoiugh it was extremely biased), im not sure that all of the facts that he states in it about Bush are true though (and id like to find out).....but it was still really interesting and im glad i read it
You can listen to that book on "books on tape" too. It adds to the humor.
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I aint got time to read all the responses, so sorry if Im out of suibject but... I think Michael Moore's job is not tellin "u" wazzup. YOU KNOW whats up... Like Malcolm said best thing whites should do is work with his own community... so he aint really tryin to help black ppl n give them solutions. He is just workin with whites livin in their own little pretty white world thinkin everything is ok.

Same with the movie... I saw it... I liked it, I loved it, but it didnt tell me anythin I didnt know... n I dont think u were surprised by the facts he exposed either... coz lets say u are in a different level. But he did open many eyes... n since he had gained so much power by become so popular I think he is doin a really good job, in his own level. hey... and he is damn funny

PS: Im not 100% supportin him... in fact I think the biggest problem here is when ppl give guys like Moore too much credit, criticts are always necessary.
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