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4 clarity sake... To answer your own question. According by you, Elijah Muhammad can.
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| "According to the NOI" What does that mean? "NOI" Sounds like the "FBI" Elijah Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah... According to Allah. "O, Prophet, strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be firm against them. And their abode is hell, and evil is the destination," (Holy Qur-an 9:73; read 9:74). I do not beg anyone to believe, because it is not allowed by Allah for a Messenger to beg people to believe in Allah and His word of truth, neither to take him for an angel or for a Prophet. This is absolutely immaterial on a Prophet's part. They seek to judge the Messenger of God and (as the Bible teaches) they seek to bring him into courts of the infidels to be judged by them while the Bible and the Holy Qur-an warn you against trying to be the judge of a Messenger of God, in these words: Who is he that judges another man's servant? Please read and understand this: Be warned and be careful of how you deviate and follow such evil-tongued people as you see now appearing, for in a few days, God will destroy them all with those whom destruction and justice is due. `
__________________ "Some so-called Negroes, who are in love with the devils, do not like to see nor hear it being made manifest. We could lose them without ever missing them; for all who are found believing in, and in love with, the devils will be destroyed with the devils. " Elijah Muhammad, Messenger of Allah |
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quoting you when you stated. "As a deceiver, the devil has no equal; he is the professional, the wisest of all deceivers. So from the slave master's preacher making parents up to today, he is the professional and wisest deceiver of all of the civilizations of the earth, and he has deceived all of the civilizations of the earth. <--This is a fact not an opinon, so for a person to follow facts, he or she must also follow patience, because you have the truth. what im saying is we all know what blacks faced humilation in this country, also we know that we are the creators of civilization. remember we are not savages nor we should act like savages, just because the devil burned, hanged ,slaved, and blinded our minds means we should hate them, we should be patient and show them that we are still organize, im not saying dont acknowledge what happened and whats going on, im saying time stops for no man even when the past that is mentioned. Its up to us to build a new future for us and black youth. We can't teach our youth about destruction and hate towards the white race. We can teach about what happen, but we cant tell them what todo only what they should do. Because today is newday to be organize not a DAY TO BE MAD OF WHAT HAPPENED, we should save that anger for the battlefeild when that time comes. Because if we choose to waste are anger now with no action taking place. We would look like we are complaining, cause our people are to into materlistic things, and some are following todays culture. Thats why we must teach before act. So we can all be in the same page. but as of right now all we can do is try to get the minds of our people back, right now alot of blacks are deaf dumb and blind to the truth me you are dropping. Its up to us to have a posittive approach on our people, because there is no revolution without our people. ![]() ---------- Post added at 03:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:13 PM ---------- Quote:
When I mention to accept them. I'm not say if they smacked you ion a face accept them, If they took you childs food accept them. You should,nt accept any1, even if it was malcolm x to Huey Newton. Nowone should. Wen i say accept, I mean give the person a chance if the person done nothing to you or your close brothers. Because honestly The devil is anyone who has hate in their heart. When you approach me ina negative way saying am i speaking tounges, thats callled being devilish not being appericative towards my feedback, wen know me n you are the same brother kush, while i was appreicating hardworkers, but i just had a positive approach on it. I hate trhe white man for what he is and what hes done, but I would never let it ruined my happiness, and my motivation of uniting blacks youth. I now the truth as much as you, probably you know more, but THATS WHY IM HERE. But at the same time my job is strengthen my people unite them, not attack on something you're not papared for. thats are problem also we spend alot of time trying to prove each other but no time to unite oare facts and opinons together so we can be a unit Peace
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A-Sun wrote: "Brother I respect your facts. Also this is why we have different paths(five percenter\me - NOI\you). But at the end of the day we are reevolutionaries. quoting you when you stated. "As a deceiver, the devil has no equal; he is the professional, the wisest of all deceivers. So from the slave master's preacher making parents up to today, he is the professional and wisest deceiver of all of the civilizations of the earth, and he has deceived all of the civilizations of the earth. <--This is a fact not an opinon, so for a person to follow facts, he or she must also follow patience, because you have the truth. what im saying is we all know what blacks faced humilation in this country, also we know that we are the creators of civilization. remember we are not savages nor we should act like savages, just because the devil burned, hanged ,slaved, and blinded our minds means we should hate them, we should be patient and show them that we are still organize, im not saying dont acknowledge what happened and whats going on, im saying time stops for no man even when the past that is mentioned. Its up to us to build a new future for us and black youth. We can't teach our youth about destruction and hate towards the white race. We can teach about what happen, but we cant tell them what todo only what they should do. Because today is newday to be organize not a DAY TO BE MAD OF WHAT HAPPENED, we should save that anger for the battlefeild when that time comes. Because if we choose to waste are anger now with no action taking place. We would look like we are complaining, cause our people are to into materlistic things, and some are following todays culture. Thats why we must teach before act. So we can all be in the same page. but as of right now all we can do is try to get the minds of our people back, right now alot of blacks are deaf dumb and blind to the truth me you are dropping. Its up to us to have a posittive approach on our people, because there is no revolution without our people." Mad? No... I am angry... and my anger moves me to act in a positive movement as a TEACHING EXAMPLE... not lessons on a page. Why do you keep mentioning that I teach hate... yet you don't call it a lie? Is the truth hate? I guess it is when people don't like the truth... so they call it hate. BUT guess what... God hates... Allah hates those who don't believe in his Messengers... Allah hates those who don't follow His Messengers... especially those who have knowledge of the truth but are to skeered to step out on faith supported by the truth. Sooooo... I would rather be called a hater by those who hate the truth then to be found against Allah who teaches His Messengers these truths that I follow and write and be hated by Him. I am a follower of the teachings of Elijah Muhammad not a "NOI" member (as you put it). "America is the first country and people that Allah wishes to destroy, but he will not destroy them until you have heard the truth of her and of yourself. I shall continue to warn you of the divine penalty that awaits you who reject your God and my Saviour, Master Fard Muhammad. In this world of crisis and destruction of nations, the only escape you have is in Allah and following me." ~Elijah Muhammad, Messenger of Allah~ Accept it or reject it... Believe it or let it alone. ` ---------- Post added at 03:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:57 PM ---------- I am really trying to understand how black people think that white people are going to be their friends in truth when black are "hoping" and "begging" to be accepted by white people instead of trying to be friends with their own selves and kind... it is ludicrous. Deep down black people believe in the great white hype and the great white hope... ![]() to... ![]() to this... ![]() Black people love white people and the standards that the white people have set for them to become accepted by them... and we still they nigguhs fo life. Black people have been following their open enemies desires without even a remote thought about what is good for them. The "materialistic" striving is all done at the biddings of what the white people say that we should have to be civilized... and in that material striving to be civilized we create jealousy, envy towards one another cuz we feel that as long as we have what the white man told us we should have and that our brother or sisters don't have that then we who do have it is better than them... SMH `
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Edited seconds right there after.. didn't sound right to me either Quote:
4 clarity sake... To answer your own question. According by you -LINK-, Elijah Muhammad can distinguish which whites are devils and which ones are not, because he has allowed in whites(devils??) to become NOI members? So therefore Elijah Muhammad IS the ONLY one who has this POWER to make this distinction... True?
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I am bearing witness to the truth of what has been written by the Author of the truth. Sooooo... it is not according to me. And where is it written by Elijah Muhammad that he can do that? The entire chapter is written show that white people (devils) can practice Islam but their nature is not created in Islam but by their practice of Islam they can avert the destruction: "There are quite a few white people in America who are Muslim by faith. Good done by any person is rewarded and these white people who believe in Islam will receive the Blessing of entering into the Hereafter. The white people who believe in Islam will not enter the Hereafter that is Promised to the Lost-Found Black People. The Lost-Found People will take on a new birth. But the white people who believe in Islam will not take on a new birth because they will not be the people to live forever. Because of their belief in Islam, they will escape the great world destruction that we now face." ~Elijah Muhammad~ No where in that chapter is their a way to tell which devil is a devil and which devil is not a devil... cuz ALL white people are devils. `
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| Cool for the answer brother... but I'm NOT clear, why Elijah Muhammad would allow devils into his space with the overstanding of the white man being the devil??? That piece puzzles me. If I had an organization today, I'd let them in too... put them in the most pawn-est position I could find them, and keep them far and wide from anything else. 1
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I can see why you are puzzled Lets get on the straight and narrow path. Elijah Muhammad has never allowed any white person (devil) to join under his Messenger "ship" (for lack of a better word). There is no such thing as that ever occurring. Where do you get that from sir? `
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| You are correct, I have erred. Dorthy Faradan has joined the NOI not under Elijah Muhammad but under the new leadership of his son Wallace D Muhammad in 1976.
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| And the word "leader" is mis-applied when it comes to Islam. There is no such thing as a leader unless we refer to Allah himself. Organizations have leaders... Islam is not a organization. Islam is a Arabic word that means Peace in its essence... and that peace is arrived or derived from entire submission to Allah... and one that submits is termed a Muslim. Allah Himself established Islam... and everything that He created has submitted... the earth has never stopped or refused to rotate on its axis at its rotating speed of one thousand thirty-three miles per hour... and everything on it submits until we come to the making of the Caucasian (devil)... he cannot submit cuz he was not made to... his nature will not allow him... and black people will suffer tremendously in their thinking that white people are their sincere friends. This thinking does not allow black people to go for self cuz we believe that the white man is going to always be their for us... ![]() When massa sick... we sick... when massa happy... we happy. The devils times is up... it is all over except the shouting... this is... ![]() `
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| They were attending a meeting (lecture). That is not "joining". Many times the Messenger spoke to the devil. He was not scared... in fact the devil knows that the Messenger spoke the truth... in further fact... the devil has may records, books and newspapers where in the Messenger wrote or spoke truth. The white man is no fool... they knows that the Messenger taught truth... that is why he is happy to see that black people go against him... cuz that is victory for the devil. The devil knows that he will be destroyed... but he is always a devil... so his number one assignment is to trick and fool as many black people as he can so that they will be destroyed with him. Not only did the devil come to hear Elijah Muhammad speak... but he was interviewed by and visited by many leaders of many different countries all of the time. `
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