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Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha... Good post "Kush".

Many times I have heard it said, "That not ALL white people are evil".

And I ask them back, "Well if not ALL white people are evil, which ones are? And since no one yet has been able to tell me how to distinguish which ones are and which ones are not... THEN ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE DEVIL!

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Many times I have heard it said, "That not ALL white people are evil".

And I ask them back, "Well if not ALL white people are evil, which ones are? And since no one yet has been able to tell me how to distinguish which ones are and which ones are not... THEN ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE DEVIL!

The white man is the devil...

4 clarity sake... To answer your own question. According by you, Elijah Muhammad can.
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4 clarity sake... According to the NOI, Elijah Muhammad can.

"According to the NOI"

What does that mean?

"NOI"

Sounds like the "FBI"

Elijah Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah... According to Allah.



"O, Prophet, strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be firm against them. And their abode is hell, and evil is the destination," (Holy Qur-an 9:73; read 9:74).

I do not beg anyone to believe, because it is not allowed by Allah for a Messenger to beg people to believe in Allah and His word of truth, neither to take him for an angel or for a Prophet. This is absolutely immaterial on a Prophet's part.

They seek to judge the Messenger of God and (as the Bible teaches) they seek to bring him into courts of the infidels to be judged by them while the Bible and the Holy Qur-an warn you against trying to be the judge of a Messenger of God, in these words: Who is he that judges another man's servant?


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Be warned and be careful of how you deviate and follow such evil-tongued people as you see now appearing, for in a few days, God will destroy them all with those whom destruction and justice is due.





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As Salaam Alaikum

Yes he is right... for him and those that agree with him. I won't argue that.

Yet, the white man is the black man's open enemy... that is the truth. Have you not seen the evil that they have done to black people? Do you not see the wickedness that they have done to black people?

100 + 100 + 100 + 100 years after them bringing us here... they still set out to attack us.

I could never attack the devil the way that he attacks me... cuz I am not of that nature... my civilization teaches me to tell the truth and shame the devil if that is what he is... he will be shamed.

So why can't I dislike what the devil white man has done to my people in the past?

Shouldn't I be outraged?

Shouldn't I write the truth of what they REALLY did?

In fact... the devil himself keeps reminders to show how he treated black people..
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Now that I am writing the truth of what he REALLY is (A liar and a murderer) I should not?

Attack the enemy???? hmmmmm... no sir... I don't kill people, I don't go out with intentions to trick and take advantage of people... sooooo I could never use the white man's tactics.

Reject them?

Hell! They have brought my people here and then REJECTED us after bringing us here... yelling us we can't go there and we can't go here and we can't do this and we can't do that... shooting us down... beating us down... whipping us down... ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha... man o man... THEY BROUGHT US HERE AND THEN THEY REJECTED US!... man that is so raw, I have to laugh to keep from crying of what they have done to us for the past 400 years





























Accept them if you want to.

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The church has failed you. Christianity has failed you. The government of America has failed you. You have not received justice from any quarter. As prophesied, you, my fellow Black men, are as sheep among wolves and as is to be expected, every wolf is taking a bite at you. You approach the Senate, the House, the White House, and you ask for justice. You get injustice. All our prayers have come to naught because we have proceeded out of ignorance. We have not known the true God. We have not known who are our brothers. We have not known who are our enemies. We have not known who is God; nor have we known who is the devil. In a nutshell, we have not known the truth about God, the devil and until that truth is made plain to us, our prayers for justice will forever go unanswered. We will be the subject of scorn and laughter.

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Trying to win the love of the white slave master has been our (the Black People's) greatest mistake. Now, it has become our gravest mistake. To have love for them (white race) means the fire of hell that God has heated, is being heated up for both, you who love the devil, and the devil too! Do not blame the white slave master for your love and desire for them above your love and desire for Allah (God), who loves you while the white slave master (devil) does not love you. The devil's nature will not let him love you! The white slave master is so full of deceit that he can deceive you and all others, the Bible teaches us.


The Holy Qur'an refers to the white slave master, the devil, as "the arch deceiver. "As a deceiver, the devil has no equal; he is the professional, the wisest of all deceivers. So from the slave master's preacher making parents up to today, he is the professional and wisest deceiver of all of the civilizations of the earth, and he has deceived all of the civilizations of the earth.




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Brother I respect your facts. Also this is why we have different paths(five percenter\me - NOI\you). But at the end of the day we are reevolutionaries.
quoting you when you stated. "As a deceiver, the devil has no equal; he is the professional, the wisest of all deceivers. So from the slave master's preacher making parents up to today, he is the professional and wisest deceiver of all of the civilizations of the earth, and he has deceived all of the civilizations of the earth. <--This is a fact not an opinon, so for a person to follow facts, he or she must also follow patience, because you have the truth. what im saying is we all know what blacks faced humilation in this country, also we know that we are the creators of civilization. remember we are not savages nor we should act like savages, just because the devil burned, hanged ,slaved, and blinded our minds means we should hate them, we should be patient and show them that we are still organize, im not saying dont acknowledge what happened and whats going on, im saying time stops for no man even when the past that is mentioned. Its up to us to build a new future for us and black youth. We can't teach our youth about destruction and hate towards the white race. We can teach about what happen, but we cant tell them what todo only what they should do. Because today is newday to be organize not a DAY TO BE MAD OF WHAT HAPPENED, we should save that anger for the battlefeild when that time comes. Because if we choose to waste are anger now with no action taking place. We would look like we are complaining, cause our people are to into materlistic things, and some are following todays culture. Thats why we must teach before act. So we can all be in the same page. but as of right now all we can do is try to get the minds of our people back, right now alot of blacks are deaf dumb and blind to the truth me you are dropping. Its up to us to have a posittive approach on our people, because there is no revolution without our people.

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You're speaking in tongues. Expound on how we should "accept them." Accept them and do what? Please clarify.

You are aware that Western governments and white corporations are attempting to put ALL land of the "developing world", i.e. Africa, in the hands of other whites for their own benefit. There is more than enough farm land in in Africa to feed Africans 3 times over and similarly for South America. Ironically the only place that has a relative lack of land for food is Europe. However, they still have enough to feed themselves. This is no accident.

These deviant whites want to starve the rest of the world. Direct your energy toward caucasians who manipulate the international food markets. Monsanto (white owned and controlled) is just one small part of global white supremacy. They manipulate the market by controlling what food gets produced and where, in order to guarantee profit for themselves. Then they create fake crisis in order to steal the rest of the land that they do not control. Whats more racist than that? So I am asking you should Blacks contiue to "accept" them and their con games? What these 'decent' whites are really asking for is quiescence to the status quo i.e., we (whites) took it all, please let us keep it all, that way we can all be friends. In a word - No!

Whites, speaking in aggregate terms, have never changed their overt and sometimes subliminal racism and aggression toward Black people during all the passing centuries, and there is absolutely NOTHING upon to which to base the belief that they will change in the centuries to come. What you are doing is taking a few exceptions of 'decent' whites and painting it as progress.
Peace Brother Kush..

When I mention to accept them. I'm not say if they smacked you ion a face accept them, If they took you childs food accept them. You should,nt accept any1, even if it was malcolm x to Huey Newton. Nowone should. Wen i say accept, I mean give the person a chance if the person done nothing to you or your close brothers. Because honestly The devil is anyone who has hate in their heart. When you approach me ina negative way saying am i speaking tounges, thats callled being devilish not being appericative towards my feedback, wen know me n you are the same brother kush, while i was appreicating hardworkers, but i just had a positive approach on it. I hate trhe white man for what he is and what hes done, but I would never let it ruined my happiness, and my motivation of uniting blacks youth. I now the truth as much as you, probably you know more, but THATS WHY IM HERE. But at the same time my job is strengthen my people unite them, not attack on something you're not papared for. thats are problem also we spend alot of time trying to prove each other but no time to unite oare facts and opinons together so we can be a unit

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"Brother I respect your facts. Also this is why we have different paths(five percenter\me - NOI\you). But at the end of the day we are reevolutionaries.
quoting you when you stated. "As a deceiver, the devil has no equal; he is the professional, the wisest of all deceivers. So from the slave master's preacher making parents up to today, he is the professional and wisest deceiver of all of the civilizations of the earth, and he has deceived all of the civilizations of the earth. <--This is a fact not an opinon, so for a person to follow facts, he or she must also follow patience, because you have the truth. what im saying is we all know what blacks faced humilation in this country, also we know that we are the creators of civilization. remember we are not savages nor we should act like savages, just because the devil burned, hanged ,slaved, and blinded our minds means we should hate them, we should be patient and show them that we are still organize, im not saying dont acknowledge what happened and whats going on, im saying time stops for no man even when the past that is mentioned. Its up to us to build a new future for us and black youth. We can't teach our youth about destruction and hate towards the white race. We can teach about what happen, but we cant tell them what todo only what they should do. Because today is newday to be organize not a DAY TO BE MAD OF WHAT HAPPENED, we should save that anger for the battlefeild when that time comes. Because if we choose to waste are anger now with no action taking place. We would look like we are complaining, cause our people are to into materlistic things, and some are following todays culture. Thats why we must teach before act. So we can all be in the same page. but as of right now all we can do is try to get the minds of our people back, right now alot of blacks are deaf dumb and blind to the truth me you are dropping. Its up to us to have a posittive approach on our people, because there is no revolution without our people."

Mad?

No... I am angry... and my anger moves me to act in a positive movement as a TEACHING EXAMPLE... not lessons on a page.

Why do you keep mentioning that I teach hate... yet you don't call it a lie?

Is the truth hate?

I guess it is when people don't like the truth... so they call it hate.

BUT guess what... God hates... Allah hates those who don't believe in his Messengers... Allah hates those who don't follow His Messengers... especially those who have knowledge of the truth but are to skeered to step out on faith supported by the truth.

Sooooo... I would rather be called a hater by those who hate the truth then to be found against Allah who teaches His Messengers these truths that I follow and write and be hated by Him.

I am a follower of the teachings of Elijah Muhammad not a "NOI" member (as you put it).



"America is the first country and people that Allah wishes to destroy, but he will not destroy them until you have heard the truth of her and of yourself. I shall continue to warn you of the divine penalty that awaits you who reject your God and my Saviour, Master Fard Muhammad. In this world of crisis and destruction of nations, the only escape you have is in Allah and following me."

~Elijah Muhammad, Messenger of Allah~


Accept it or reject it... Believe it or let it alone.



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I am really trying to understand how black people think that white people are going to be their friends in truth when black are "hoping" and "begging" to be accepted by white people instead of trying to be friends with their own selves and kind... it is ludicrous.

Deep down black people believe in the great white hype and the great white hope...




to...




to this...




Black people love white people and the standards that the white people have set for them to become accepted by them... and we still they nigguhs fo life.

Black people have been following their open enemies desires without even a remote thought about what is good for them.

The "materialistic" striving is all done at the biddings of what the white people say that we should have to be civilized... and in that material striving to be civilized we create jealousy, envy towards one another cuz we feel that as long as we have what the white man told us we should have and that our brother or sisters don't have that then we who do have it is better than them... SMH




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"According to the NOI"

What does that mean?

"NOI"

Sounds like the "FBI"

Edited seconds right there after.. didn't sound right to me either
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...And I ask them back, "Well if not ALL white people are evil, which ones are? And since no one yet has been able to tell me how to distinguish which ones are and which ones are not... THEN ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE DEVIL!
Your reply to my question is still unanswered, I'll ask again.

4 clarity sake... To answer your own question. According by you -LINK-, Elijah Muhammad can distinguish which whites are devils and which ones are not, because he has allowed in whites(devils??) to become NOI members? So therefore Elijah Muhammad IS the ONLY one who has this POWER to make this distinction... True?
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Your reply to my question is still unanswered, I'll ask again.

4 clarity sake... To answer your own question. According by you -LINK-, Elijah Muhammad can distinguish which whites are devils and which ones are not? True?
How can it be according to me?

I am bearing witness to the truth of what has been written by the Author of the truth.

Sooooo... it is not according to me.

And where is it written by Elijah Muhammad that he can do that?

The entire chapter is written show that white people (devils) can practice Islam but their nature is not created in Islam but by their practice of Islam they can avert the destruction:



"There are quite a few white people in America who are Muslim by faith. Good done by any person is rewarded and these white people who believe in Islam will receive the Blessing of entering into the Hereafter.

The white people who believe in Islam will not enter the Hereafter that is Promised to the Lost-Found Black People. The Lost-Found People will take on a new birth.

But the white people who believe in Islam will not take on a new birth because they will not be the people to live forever. Because of their belief in Islam, they will escape the great world destruction that we now face."

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No where in that chapter is their a way to tell which devil is a devil and which devil is not a devil... cuz ALL white people are devils.




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Cool for the answer brother... but I'm NOT clear, why Elijah Muhammad would allow devils into his space with the overstanding of the white man being the devil???

That piece puzzles me
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If I had an organization today, I'd let them in too... put them in the most pawn-est position I could find them, and keep them far and wide from anything else.
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Cool for the answer brother... but I'm NOT clear, why Elijah Muhammad would allow devils into his space with the overstanding of the white man being the devil???

That piece puzzles me
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If I had an organization today, I'd let them in too... put them in the most pawn-est position I could find them, and keep them far and wide from anything else.
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I can see why you are puzzled

Lets get on the straight and narrow path.

Elijah Muhammad has never allowed any white person (devil) to join under his Messenger "ship" (for lack of a better word).

There is no such thing as that ever occurring.

Where do you get that from sir?



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You are correct, I have erred. Dorthy Faradan has joined the NOI not under Elijah Muhammad but under the new leadership of his son Wallace D Muhammad in 1976.
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And the word "leader" is mis-applied when it comes to Islam.

There is no such thing as a leader unless we refer to Allah himself.

Organizations have leaders... Islam is not a organization.

Islam is a Arabic word that means Peace in its essence... and that peace is arrived or derived from entire submission to Allah... and one that submits is termed a Muslim.

Allah Himself established Islam... and everything that He created has submitted... the earth has never stopped or refused to rotate on its axis at its rotating speed of one thousand thirty-three miles per hour... and everything on it submits until we come to the making of the Caucasian (devil)... he cannot submit cuz he was not made to... his nature will not allow him... and black people will suffer tremendously in their thinking that white people are their sincere friends.

This thinking does not allow black people to go for self cuz we believe that the white man is going to always be their for us...





When massa sick... we sick... when massa happy... we happy.

The devils times is up... it is all over except the shouting... this is...






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They were attending a meeting (lecture). That is not "joining".

Many times the Messenger spoke to the devil. He was not scared... in fact the devil knows that the Messenger spoke the truth... in further fact... the devil has may records, books and newspapers where in the Messenger wrote or spoke truth.

The white man is no fool... they knows that the Messenger taught truth... that is why he is happy to see that black people go against him... cuz that is victory for the devil.

The devil knows that he will be destroyed... but he is always a devil... so his number one assignment is to trick and fool as many black people as he can so that they will be destroyed with him.

Not only did the devil come to hear Elijah Muhammad speak... but he was interviewed by and visited by many leaders of many different countries all of the time.



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