A convo I had with a now-fired coworker (Martin Luther King)

**Liza Lotus** · 05-13-2012

This day in age, it's damned hard finding someone outside of the internet that is awake to all the bs that's going on in this world. In fact, it's hard to find anyone that goes against the status quo to give a different insight to issues that have occurred in the past and in the present. And it all started with talks of Ancient Nubia.

It was between me and 2 other guys. One (lets call him Zs) believes the cliche "We are our own worst enemies" while the other (A) believes that "The only enemy is the pig-skinned bastards from Europe".

After a while, the subject turned to the civil rights movement and why we don't hear much about Malcom X and what he did during his time alive. (A) suggests that because of his involvement with the Nation of Islam and that this country has a vendetta against Islam period. Not to mention that NOI teaches that the white man is the devil and a result of a genetic experiment by Yacub (what?). (Zs) suggests that it was because his approach to achieving justice for his people was more "separatist" rather than integration which MLK preached about. He then went on to say that MLK had the right idea as he achieved a more peaceful means of equality in the country. Then, (A) kinda explodes. He claims that MLK's only achievement was proving the complete and utter arrogance of the white race. "So the only way to achieve justice and freedom from some assholes who made it legal to roast yo ass alive, burn your house down, lynch you, kill you, and not to mention hose you down and sick dogs on you... is to appeal to them with peace!?" There was so much venom being said about MLK all at once and I couldn't believe it. A Nubian who actually despised MLK. I don't know if it was critique or personal anger towards him, or just humor (the guys who work with me have a strange sense of humor).

Needless to say, someone overheard him, reported him, and he got fired for his comments. This is unfortunate as he was probably one of the better employees there and had a different view of things on life. I went to visit his home a week after his termination to continue the convo and gain a deeper insight on what he meant with his comments on MLK.

These were some of the things he told me:

1. The same thing as above, "appealing to violence with peace. Realistically, this never would work the way it did in America. And the only way that happened was actually showing the world how vicious America was toward a minority population. This shows not that they feel a genuine guilt for oppressing a portion of their population, but they were more concerned about their god damned image. Why do you think they lie about slavery these days?"

2. "When white people praise black accomplishment, it's usually because it benefited them in someway. They couldn't give a f*ck how it benefits Nubians, but they always had some sort of interests in connection to those achievements. I always wondered why obvious racists would bother to give him his own holiday. Maybe to show they had tolerance? Equality? Whatever the case, it had to serve the interests of their image projection."

3. "Integration has done more harm than good. Prior to the 70s, Nubian families were strong and unified in the face of a world that expressed nothing short of hate. Now that we are assimilating in a culture that was cut off from us, we're more self-hating than we could ever imagine. Could you imagine what the folks in the 60s would think if they saw an episode of Maury where the man would jump around as if he won the lottery if it was discovered that he was not the "baby daddy"?"

4. "MLK was an alleged christian. That alone should've clued you in that he wasn't good for us. This "religion" teaches you to love your enemy and turn the other cheek to your oppressor. And he followed it like a programming manual. He set a bad example for future generations. Now we're walking around being terrified of Kanye West because a necklace of one of our own deities. Because massa religion told us it was "satan". The arrogance of Christians to demonize everyone else's religions in favor of this bullshit that tells us to simply love someone we've never met, or we will burn in hell!? You have to be out of your f*cking mind to be a christian! Unfortunately, every n* I know has lost their damn minds! And you know the best part? MLK wasn't even a real christian to boot!"

5. "His thesis documents are plagiarized from the London papers and he loves him some white prostitutes. We worship a person who is fraudulent in his academics and a person who decides a WHITE WOMAN is more satisfying than his own wife! Well that explains why we got oreos running around this country!"

After a while of talking, I wanted to say something in response, but I couldn't. Needless to say, I was offended and asked him whether he agreed that regardless of his supposed vices if he supported anything he did for people back in the 60s.

A: Look, I don't fault him for trying to help. I'm tired of the bullsh*t that he was this perfect man, especially considering the results of his "work" didn't do jack except make these white boys find sneakier ways to f*ck us over. And I still hate the whole "peace vs violence" BS. Don't tell me to turn the other cheek to some asshole who rapes my wife! F*ck that!.

After this whole thing, I figured that maybe he's frustrated that everything that went on during the civil rights movement was somewhat for naught. He makes it out that all we did was ruin America's image. We did. But it was more than that. We were the only minority group in this country that had an impact on it in some form. And MLK was the primary person who achieved it. Is that not noteworthy?

Of course, to say that other leaders during this era is not noteworthy is, yes, very disrespectful, I agree.

**Im The Truth** · 05-23-2012

I think it's important to NEVER use a 3rd party source to learn about Our People specifically our leaders. The best way is to read their own thoughts and opinions and reasons why specific tactics were chosen.

Simply put the entire Civil Rights & Black Power movement underestimated the wrath of the US gov so much of the efforts that were attempted were foiled, people were jailed just to keep them from doing anything productive, and people were killed to cancel their known & potential future plans.

This is why it's critical to learn information from the primary source because you'll learn why they were really jailed and/or killed usually it's because of their future plans. Because of a lot of Our Leaders wrote you can read about them from their point of view rather than someone elses.

By the way check out the links below on King Jr:
The Forgotten Martin Luther King

http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/sh...dr-king-s.html

**Liza Lotus** · 06-06-2012

"the evils of capitalism are as real as the evils of militarism and evils of racism" (Harding, 101).

Think of that: capitalism, militarism, and racism -- as evils.

When's the last time you've heard that?

I've never heard of capitalism being evil. Infact, it's the "only antidote to communism" from what I hear.

The earlier phase and character of the civil rights movement was linked to the Democratic Party and was dominated by reformist politics, turning the spotlight on the brutal realities of white supremacy in the South. The aim of the movement was to embarrass the U.S. government and to enforce legal equality, including voting rights in the South during the Cold War period.

Huh. I never looked at it that way. I suspect that everyone was aware that the U.S. cared about it's image greatly?

**Im The Truth** · 06-15-2012

KKKapitalism is definitely evil! Its evilness lies in the fact that slavery and maximum exploitation are the ideal conditions for kkkapitalism. Under these conditions kkkapitalism can strive. Look at the usa (the inventors of kkkapitalism) raise to being a superpower. This is not accidental.

What’s commonly taught about kkkapitalism is buy low sell high and that's it, but that along is exaggeratingly simple. Think about that same concept, buy low sell high, and wonder what's the lowest I can "buy" something at? Free is the lowest hence the need for slavery & exploitation. That is not only what the usa was built on but that is the legs it stands on still today. Heard of the word globalization? All it means is global kkkapitalism. But they want you to use that word so you subconsciously agree with the concept even if you have not clue what it means. The old word they use to use was colonization, but they've since trade that word in.

**Warrior Princess** · 06-16-2012

Originally Posted by Liza Lotus

Needless to say, someone overheard him, reported him, and he got fired for his comments. This is unfortunate as he was probably one of the better employees there and had a different view of things on life. I went to visit his home a week after his termination to continue the convo and gain a deeper insight on what he meant with his comments on MLK.

I wonder what the actual details about his firing said in documentation. I hope that better things are waiting for him, hopefully his own business and I hope that it prospers.

On another note, it might be good to invite the brother to the forum.. (D'oh! U might have a bit of explaining to do if he sees this thread doe... :p)