How can we leave out the rest of asia and original americas

**Allah** · 08-23-2005

When we refer to the black struggle, why do we limit it to just
people with naps, when, in fact, most asians, native americans,
and oceania people are Original people also. Alot of times I feel
like the Black Self Empowerment community vilifies other people
of other ethnicities because they may not all have curly hair.
I think that is wrong and problematic. Peace.

**Kweku_Omowale** · 08-23-2005

i am former human rights activist who fought sisde by side with native kanadians for land rights,who knows amerikan indian movement memebrs in kanada, who helped with the zapatistas as well, i dont villify dem, you have to allow room for errors because we are hue mans and hue man nature is frail and bound to make mistakes of this genre,hmm A.L.L.A.H which means arab leechs living off afrikan hue manity, i always say that the greatest impediment towards of afrikan liberation will be the arabnization of the continent thru islam, whereas tunisia and egypt dont consider demselves afrikans,i have seen with my two own eyes that the earth shall eat one day man, and have asked dem as well, the OAU will be in great danger because of this factor,till dem,from a person who has been in so many battles,here in kanada and somewhere else
kweku omowale. peace my brother!

**RecoveringAA** · 08-23-2005

Greetings of Afreekan Love Family,

I am Joanie, a RE~covering Afreekan amerikkkan and Re~presentative from the Voices in the Margins.

Originally Posted by Allah

When we refer to the black struggle, why do we limit it to just
people with naps, when, in fact, most asians, native americans,
and oceania people are Original people also. Alot of times I feel
like the Black Self Empowerment community vilifies other people
of other ethnicities because they may not all have curly hair.
I think that is wrong and problematic. Peace.

Well...Come Allah,

I limit my struggle based on the FACT that Afreekans have enough on OUR plate to deal with without adding the struggles of others. Why is this such a hard thing for US to manage? Why DO WE need to incorporate the crap of other groups with OUR own? It is NOT about "villifying" others...it IS about....TAKING CARE OF HOME FIRST!

Let them handle they bizniz and WE handle OURS....if need BE....WE can meet in the middle somewhere down the line.....

Akpe for allowing me to share

IN LOVE OF AFREEKANS HOME AND ABROAD

**rebelAfrika** · 08-23-2005

Originally Posted by Allah

When we refer to the black struggle, why do we limit it to just
people with naps, when, in fact, most asians, native americans,
and oceania people are Original people also. Alot of times I feel
like the Black Self Empowerment community vilifies other people
of other ethnicities because they may not all have curly hair.
I think that is wrong and problematic. Peace.

I think that this is a result of

1) misunderstanding of genuine African scholarship
2) a lack of contemporary geo-political development
3) (in some instances) ignorance and
4) (in some instances) misinformation being propagated by the enemy and their agent provocatures.

This of course is in reference to when other ethnicities are "villified." When you call a spade a "spade" though...it's an entirely different story. I try to be fair in those respects though, because everybodies got some dirt on them somewhere in history.

**Im The Truth** · 08-24-2005

Some groups have a lot of dirt in their history as it relates to Afrikan People such as arabs and europeans. We must look to Our own problems/solutions first and anyone elses after Ours are finish. Also other groups have different struggles that we are not a part of, for example most Asian nationalities hate japan. Our beef is not with japan because we know they are just an exstention of european/white supremacy which is Our root problem. For other nations and peoples this may not be the problem. Another explain, Native Americans want/deserve all of their land back, we as Afrikan People can not honest in engage in talking about taking any part of so-called ameriKKKa Our land is Afrika. We must see Our People first and collaberate in fighting commons enemies (under the right conditions).

People who believe in the same thing, don't have to disbelieve in the same thing and People who disbelieve in the same thing, don't have to believe in the same thing.

**Allah** · 08-24-2005

Wouldn't you think it would be more of a benefit to try to
educate the other Original People about their foundations
amongst the Original People near the Nile Valley, instead of
trying to isolate those people, in order to share in their
resources and ultimately build a stronger united front against
white supremacy? That's what I am talking about.
Peace.

Originally Posted by RecoveringAA

Greetings of Afreekan Love Family,

I am Joanie, a RE~covering Afreekan amerikkkan and Re~presentative from the Voices in the Margins.

Well...Come Allah,

I limit my struggle based on the FACT that Afreekans have enough on OUR plate to deal with without adding the struggles of others. Why is this such a hard thing for US to manage? Why DO WE need to incorporate the crap of other groups with OUR own? It is NOT about "villifying" others...it IS about....TAKING CARE OF HOME FIRST!

Let them handle they bizniz and WE handle OURS....if need BE....WE can meet in the middle somewhere down the line.....

Akpe for allowing me to share

IN LOVE OF AFREEKANS HOME AND ABROAD

**RecoveringAA** · 08-24-2005

Originally Posted by Allah

Wouldn't you think it would be more of a benefit to try to
educate the other Original People about their foundations
amongst the Original People near the Nile Valley, instead of
trying to isolate those people, in order to share in their
resources and ultimately build a stronger united front against
white supremacy? That's what I am talking about.
Peace.

???????

NO...I AM INTERESTED ONLY IN EDUCATING MY PEOPLE (those in the Margins in particular....poor Afreekans surviving in poverty) ABOUT WHO THEY ARE...FIRST AND FOREMOST. END OF STORY.....

**Daisho** · 08-24-2005

You Don't Show Up To Build An Expansive Bridge Over Troubled Waters with bootleg Mix CD's, DVD's and China Town Sweat Shop Sean John Warm Up Suits. In Other Words To Build Bridges You First Should Have The Know How And The Proper Tools To Share Amongst Your (People) Crew. A Strong Union Has To Be Made, A Plan Of Action For The Self Contained and Self Sufficient I Might Add. I Respect The Earth Peoples That Haven't Been Had By The Matrix, But I'm Sure They'd Respect Us More If We Came Organized And Real And Not Just Having A We Are The World Lovefest. In A Track Race Who Would You Bet On Between Marian Jones And Marion Barry? We Gotta' Have A Presence That's Beyond The Camera And Media Mean Muggin'.

**Allah** · 08-24-2005

Lets not pretend that black people don't sell messed up merchandise
in our community also.......
Let me give you an example. If you are a graduate student
at a grad school where the Chinese or Vietmanese have secured a
plot of land for organic farming, would you say you will not use
parts of the plot because you "believe" that Chinese and Vietmanese
are "not african"? To me that would be ludicrous to have that
kind of attitude. That's what I mean. When I was at grad school
the Chinese, Vietmanese, Korean, Nigerian, etc. SHARED the same
plot for organic farms. It was COMMUNAL.
Peace.

Originally Posted by Daisho

You Don't Show Up To Build An Expansive Bridge Over Troubled Waters with bootleg Mix CD's, DVD's and China Town Sweat Shop Sean John Warm Up Suits. In Other Words To Build Bridges You First Should Have The Know How And The Proper Tools To Share Amongst Your (People) Crew. A Strong Union Has To Be Made, A Plan Of Action For The Self Contained and Self Sufficient I Might Add. I Respect The Earth Peoples That Haven't Been Had By The Matrix, But I'm Sure They'd Respect Us More If We Came Organized And Real And Not Just Having A We Are The World Lovefest. In A Track Race Who Would You Bet On Between Marian Jones And Marion Barry? We Gotta' Have A Presence That's Beyond The Camera And Media Mean Muggin'.

**Allah** · 08-24-2005

Trolling....

To me A.L.L.A.H. represents Arm Leg Leg Arm Head which is the form
of the Original Man. Peace.

Originally Posted by Kweku_Omowale

hmm A.L.L.A.H which means arab leechs living off afrikan hue manity,

**Daisho** · 08-24-2005

Originally Posted by Allah

Lets not pretend that black people don't sell messed up merchandise
in our community also.......
Let me give you an example. If you are a graduate student
at a grad school where the Chinese or Vietmanese have secured a
plot of land for organic farming, would you say you will not use
parts of the plot because you "believe" that Chinese and Vietmanese
are "not african"? To me that would be ludicrous to have that
kind of attitude. That's what I mean. When I was at grad school
the Chinese, Vietmanese, Korean, Nigerian, etc. SHARED the same
plot for organic farms. It was COMMUNAL.
Peace.

Allah, I believe you've misread my statement...

I'm stating that we cannot show up to build a bridge in the company of people who've built an expansive bridge amongst their own people when we have yet to do so. When I mention the bootleg items I'm talking about these items vs. tools like hammers, cement mixers etc. etc. and that you cannot come unprepared to a building site without proper means of application...hence there are no bridges born of CD's and DVD's but tools and sincere labor. I am not talking negatively of the Asian community when I mentioned china town only where these sweat shops do exist (see mulberry st., N.Y., N.Y.) People who have nationhood, nations built and national agenda look at us like we're crazy asking for a co-sign on a loan or coalition for that matter that we haven't invested in seriously ourselves. As a person who has invested a great deal of time studying with Japanese, Korean and Chinese counterparts I can assure you that I in no shape or form have any hostile energy towards them, rather the opposite....It would be ludicrous of me to have the name "DAISHO" and then turn around and bash The Peoples of Asia wouldn't you say?

**Allah** · 08-24-2005

I-ight, I C U. Peace.

Originally Posted by Daisho

Allah, I believe you've misread my statement...

I'm stating that we cannot show up to build a bridge in the company of people who've built an expansive bridge amongst their own people when we have yet to do so. When I mention the bootleg items I'm talking about these items vs. tools like hammers, cement mixers etc. etc. and that you cannot come unprepared to a building site without proper means of application...hence there are no bridges born of CD's and DVD's but tools and sincere labor. I am not talking negatively of the Asian community when I mentioned china town only where these sweat shops do exist (see mulberry st., N.Y., N.Y.) People who have nationhood, nations built and national agenda look at us like we're crazy asking for a co-sign on a loan or coalition for that matter that we haven't invested in seriously ourselves. As a person who has invested a great deal of time studying with Japanese, Korean and Chinese counterparts I can assure you that I in no shape or form have any hostile energy towards them, rather the opposite....It would be ludicrous of me to have the name "DAISHO" and then turn around and bash The Peoples of Asia wouldn't you say?

**Moorish Rebel** · 09-16-2005

Originally Posted by rebelafrika

I think that this is a result of

1) misunderstanding of genuine African scholarship
2) a lack of contemporary geo-political development
3) (in some instances) ignorance and
4) (in some instances) misinformation being propagated by the enemy and their agent provocatures.

This of course is in reference to when other ethnicities are "villified." When you call a spade a "spade" though...it's an entirely different story. I try to be fair in those respects though, because everybodies got some dirt on them somewhere in history.

This right here, best sums up my opinion.... Well said RebelAfrika!

**BabaYaw** · 09-16-2005

Recovering AA
you say you are soley interested in eduation of our people
how can we work together to do this? do you do it thru teaching trades, academics, arts, science...

btw

i fully agree i dont see any need to support any other race
we are over four hundred years behind the world

how do we catch up?
study ourselves and the world more?
work more hours than all other races/groups?

every immigrant group in this country comes up on tha backs of our ancestors and shows no respect to them or us they owe reparations to
price gouging, copycating our creations, old harmful products they sell us
shoot black folks can work for white folks way easier than any other group

there is no color solidarity asians dont look out for messicans nor do east indians support jamaicans....

we have been hoodwinked by hustlas like sharpton and farrakhan pushing nationalism verbally but to themsleves they are about integration