Origin Of Hip Hop (1999 Documentary) and A RBG SS Essay

[RBG Street Scholar]

The Hip Hop Years/ Origin Of Hip Hop (1999 Documentary) From the Description: Hip Hop (also spelled hip-hop or hiphop) is both a music genre and a cultural movement developed all in New York starting in the 1970s, predominantly by African Americans and Latinos. Since first emerging in the Bronx in the 1970s, hip hop has grown to encompass an entire lifestyle that consistently incorporates diverse elements of ethnicity, technology, art and urban life. Hip hop is a subculture, which is said to have begun with the work of DJ Kool Herc, Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five, and Afrika Bambaattaa. The main aspects, or "elements", of hip hop culture are MCing (rapping), DJing, urban inspired art/tagging (graffiti), b-boying (or breakdancing), and beatboxing. The most known "extended" elements are hip hop fashion, hip hop slang, double dutching (an urban form of rope skipping), or other elements as important facets of hip hop. In mainstream spheres, the term "hip hop" typically refers only to hip hop music (or rap music), the music produced by the MCing and DJing aspects of hip hop culture. As it grew and developed into a multi billion dollar industry, the scope of hip hop culture grew beyond the boundaries of its traditional four elements. KRS-ONE, a rapper from the golden age of hip hop, names nine elements of hip hop culture: the traditional four and beatboxing, plus street fashion, street language, street knowledge, and street entrepreneurism. He also suggests that hip hop is a cultural movement and that the word itself had to reflect this. He spells it Hiphop (one word, capital "h") and this is reflected in his Temple of Hiphop. KRS-One's philosophy is slightly more progressive in some ways than that of his contemporaries. He is, however, one of strongest leaders championing hip hop's place in the world. "The Revolution Iz N Da Music; But What Kind of Revolution" To me, the MOST GLARING contradiction OF studio gangsta rap is, “how can a music which only thirty years ago so expresseD the probabilities, possibilities and potentiality of our people, NOW BE SO GLOBALLY debased and UNCONSCIOUS? the perverting of original HIP-HOP/ RAP music INTO SO CALLED GANGSTA RAP IS ASSOCIATED WITH A WHITPLOITATION corporate work ETHIC THat is NOURISHING, WHAT DR AMOS WILSON calls "black SELF-annihilation in SERVICE OF WHITE DOMINATION". rap was a music THAT ORIGINATED TO TEACH AND INSPIRE POOR BLACK AND BROWN FOLK. part of a larger afrikan cultural experience in America, HIP-hop, WITH influence far beyond ITSELF TODAY (AT LEAST AS IT IS PROPAGATED IN ESTABLISHMENT MEDIA) is too often diametrically oppose to its original purpose,value and potential. it started out as A WAY and means OF POSITIVE TRANSFORMATION and upliftMENT FOR black and BROWN PEOPLE and their ghettos / barrios”. To my dismay, today too much rap music has become a poor man's music which keeps my people historo-CULTURALLY, socio-politically and psycho-educationally impoverished. This short essay is meant to support such sweeping condemnation. when BROTHERS LIKE Grandmaster Flash, Kool Herc and Afrika Bambaataa, three of the pioneers of hip hop and rap music from the BRONX, KICKED OFF THE SECOND MUSIC REVOLUTION BORN IN THE U.S.A. (JAZZ BEING THE ONLY OTHER TRULY AMERICAN CLASSICAL MUSIC); I’M sure they DIDN’T FORESEE THE POSSIBLE OFFSHOOTS. NAMELY, EVEN A REVOLUTIONARY PHENOMENON Can be contaminated by individualism, materialism, jealousy, ENVY, black self-hatred and whitesploitation. they knew then that the revolution is in the music, but NOW I’M SURE THEY ALSO REALIZE thAT “JOY AND PAIN ARE LIKE SUNSHINE AND RAIN”----SAME THING MAKE you LAUGH MAKE you CRY. When hip-hop first emerged, it was about having fun and proving yourself using clever sentences - rhythmically put together - said smoothly over 12-inch vinyl records spun on a disc jockey's turntables. Most critics believed that hip-hop was just going to be a fad in inner cities. Little did they know that it would become a worldwide multi-billion-dollar enterprise ONCE THE capitalist VULTURES GOT A WHIFF OF THEIR PRAY. BACK IN THE DAY OUR JAZZ GENIUSES WERE EXPLOITED BY THE MUSIC MOGULS in the SAME WAY for the same reasons---monopoly capitalist greed. BUT THEY STILL PRODUCED MUSIC THAT INSPIRED OUR PEOPLE…JUST LIKE HIP-HOP ---BACK IN THE DAY. I CAME UP ON RAP BACK IN THE DAY AND THEN IT HAD AN INSPIRING AFFECT ON MY SPIRIT THAT WAS AS IMPACTFUL AS BE BOP WAS FOR MY FORE PARENTS. IN ALL MY STRUGGLES, TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS IT HAS BEEN THE MUSIC OF INSPIRERS THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED THE MOST TO SUSTAINING AND DEVELOPING ME INTELLECTUALLY AND SPIRITUALLY. GIL SCOTT HERON, THE LAST POETS AND BOB MARLeY TAUGHT ME MANY YEARS AGO THAT much of the EVOLUTION OF A physical, mental and/or spiritual REVOLUTION IS IN THE MUSIC. recently FOLK LIKE PE, BPD, X-CLAN, POOR RIGHTEOUS TEACHERS, THE COUP, KAM, DEAD PREZ, PARIS, heavy d, GRAND PUB, CUBE, SISTER SOULJah, SUccESS-N-EFFECT, ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT AND MANY MORE HAVE COME TO US IN THE SAME SELFLESS, PROPHETIC SPIRIT as the aforementioned street scholars / edutainers” WITH LESS THAN DESERVED PROPS secondary to OUR PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM WHITE DISEASE AND AFRAID TO FIGHT DISEASE. ALTHOUGH THEY ARE STILL BLACK, STILL STRONG AND “BLOWIN up like the world trade AS WE SPEAK, THIS TIME their REVOLUTIONARY BUT GANGSTA flava of RAP--- TRUE TO THE ORIGINAL LUV AND POSITIVE PROBABILITIES, POSSIBILITIES AND POTENTIALITIES OF THE HIP HOP MOVEMENT AND THE ORIGINAL BLACK GANGSTAS / BLACK NATIONALIST----- IS GOING TO BURN DEEP IN THE SOUL OF OUR chocolate CITIES LIKE WILD FIRE. THIS IS BECAUSE ALL WIT EYES TO SEE AND EARS TO HERE NOW APPRECIATE THE DEAD ENDS AND PSYCHOLOGICAL INCARCERATION THAT IS INHERENT IN LISTENING TO AND INVESTING IN MIDDLE CLASS STUDIO GANGSTA RAPPERS AND REAL STREET THUGS THAT ARE SUFFERING FROM NIGGERIZATION AND SELF-HATRED; AS IS DOCUMENTED BY THEIR OWN LYRICS. WHAT WE ARE REALLY DEALING WITH, WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, IS GLOBAL WHITE SUPREMACY PROPAGATING PSYCHOLOGICAL AND CULTURAL INCARCERATION. SHACKLES ON THE ARMS, WAIST AND LEGS, AS WAS OUR ANCESTORS CONDITION, WERE NEVER AS ENSLAVING AS THE “CHAINS AND IMAGES OF PSYCHOLOGICAL SLAVERY”. THE CONDITION WE FIND OURSELVES IN TODAY CRIES OUT FOR A CLEAR overstanding of AND APPROPRIATE COUNTER-ACTION TO these oppressive yokes. what is THE MOST APPROPRIATE THERAPEUTIC INTERVENTION TOWARD A CURE FOR RAP musick’s AND THE HIP-HOP HEADZ ILLMATIC-SIDE? FIRSTLY, WE MUST BE CRYSTAL CLEAR ON A WELL DOCUMENTED FACT; niggerized musick is a manifestation of afrikan OPPRESSION born in the u.s.a.. and oppression IS ESSENTIALLY A caldron of violence and fraud. It was brought into existence and is maintained by dint force and falsifications. Now that Afrikans IN AMERICA have been coerced into fearing physical death at the hands of the oppressor and have submitted to oppression, we have invariably condemned OURSELVES TO psychocultural, socio-material and historical death. THE INDIVIDUALISM, MATERIALISM AND HEDONISTIC words and deeds of too many so called rap artist, De-personalized/ de-socialized and de-racinated, have become surrogates of the will and intent of the enemy. THIS IS THE NEXUS FOR THE REASON WE NOW MAKE MUSIC THAT GLORIFIES KILLING ANOTHER BLACK MAN AND EXPLOITING AND DISRESPECTING OUR WOMEN. But our psychological and social death only hastens our physical death WHEN WE ASSIMILATE THIS MINDSET. ACTUALLY, WHAT MANY OF OUR YOUNG HIP-HOPPERS AND RAPPERS ARE SUFFERING FROM IS Negro Humanist – Integratioinist Inbetweenity, the Western Acculturation PROCCESS and outright niggerization. BACK IN THE DAY WE use to simply say, “THEY’VE BEEN BRAINWASHED”. MALCOLM WOULD SAY “THEY GOT WHITEs DISEASE”. THEY HAVE DONE THE SAME TYPE OF THING THAT RESULTED IN THE BLACK POWER MOVEMENT’S ‘POST-60’ EROSION—sold out. NOW THEY MAKE MUSIC FOR A DOLLAR IRRESPECTIVE OF THE FALLOUT. PLEASE LET Me INTERJECT At THIS JUNCTURE, BEING A healer, inspire AND STREET SCHOLAR, I HAVE NO REASON TO HATE, BECAUSE i realize that just FIFTY YEARS AGO IT WAS RARE FOR the AVERAGE BLACKMAN TO HAVE FIFTY DOLLARS IN HIS pockets; but today THE TRICKNOLOGY OF THE OLD MIGHTY DOLLAR HAS ONCE AGAIN TAKEn US OFF COURSE. ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE STRUGGLES AND STRIDES Of THe SIXTIES/seventies and before, THE HIP-HOP GENERATION’S PARENTS IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES LEFT OUR CHILDREN HOME AND ALONE SO THEY COULD RUN A BREAK-NECK SPEED TO GET MORE THINGS. SO YOU see, THE MORE THINGS CHANGE, THE MORE THINGS STAY THE SAME. AFTER BEING DE-AFRIKANIZED, DE-HUMANIZED AND INFERIORITIZED AFRIKANS IN AMERICA THAT ACCEPTED THE WHITE MAN’S DECLARATION OF INFERIORITY HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO “ARRIVE” / Be VALIDATED AND ACCEPTED BY MASSA BY GETTING ALL THE MATERIAL THINGS MASSA has. BUT THIS IS BECAUSE FAR TOO MANY OF US HAVE CONFUSED HISTORICAL SOCIO-MATERIAL INFERIORITY WITH PSYCHOCULTURAL, INTELLECTUAL AND SPIRITUAL currency.NOW PLEASE DON'T READ ME WRONG, HAVING NICE THINGS IS PART OF OUR WAY,BUT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE MUST BE TAUGHT FROM AND EARILY AGE THAT you can'T drive, dress or house you way out of mental slavery. SO, again this is not ABOUT BUSTen ANOTHER BROTHER’S HUSTLE, BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY FAKERS OUT THERE DROPPIN LYRICS BASED ON BEING HIGH SCHOOL DROP OUTS, PETTY DOPE DEALERS/SMOKERS AND THUGS THAT DON’T WANna TO WORK, HAVE NO RESPECT FOR SELF AND OTHERS AND THINK IT'S KOL TO PROPAGATE SUCH NOTIONS. THEY ARE TOO LAZY TO PICK UP A BOOK/LEARN HOW TO READ AND GET SOME NEW KNOWLEDGE SO THEY CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY THAT WOULD BE MORE IN KEEPING WITH THEIR GOD GIVEN TALENT. RATHER, THEY CHOICE TO STAY LOCKED INTO THE REFERENCE Point Misorientation CHARACTERISTIC OF THE Psychopathologic Manifestations Self-Alienation. Secondly, ALL THAT BEING SAID,THE REAL PROBLEM IS THAT TOO MANY OF OUR PEOPLE (CONSUMERS AND SUPPORTERS OF THEIR MUSIC) HAVE GOTTEN THEIR PRIORITIES TWISTED IN THIS ERA MATERIALISM, CONSUMERISM, INDIVIDUALISM AND IT’S ALRIGHT TO DO WRONG AND ALL WRONG TO DO RIGHT. in others words "if we didn't buy it it wouldn't sell". but that means fighting yts mentacidal process. something most of the older among us don't have a clue about; and those that do, if the truth be told, give less than a damn about making a sacrifice to reach back and pull a younger ones coat. Thirdly, A LOT OF THese SO CALLED ENTERTAINMENT ARTIST, in order to gain financial favor with a treacherous, hypocritical AND OUTRIGHT RACIST corporate MUSIC INDUSTRY, find it to their own advantage to sacrifice the integrity of our youth and the black/ afrikan LIBERATION STRUGGLE FOR money and notoriety. too many of our “Rap artist” would rather surrender, crawl and talk about killin another black man, than take a stand and use their talent and creativity for the good of the collective. As long as they are able to go along to get along the industry pretends to ignore the decay and collapse of our communities brought about as a direct result of our youth chasing after a “gangsta tale”; only to end up dead, in prison OR LIVIN A DEAD END LIFE. AND DON’T TELL ME WHEN THESE YOUNG BOYS BE SELL DOPE AND SMOKIN WEED AND CARRYING PISTOLS THAT THE MUSIC DON’T FACILITATE DA RIDE CAUSE , BEEN THERE, DONE DAT. but it’s all GOOD; BECAUSE I believe the day is coming when they must answer for their treason. WHEN that day does come, and it will be here soon, they will find their pleas falling on deaf ears. Treason, how be it punished? "ya'll should all get lynched". finally, in the interest of closing on a positive note, i think that as long as each and every one of us that luv the culture and/or realize its power in relation to liberation struggle do our little part to keep the culture distinguished from the industry; we can continue to take our culture and music back and teach our younger ones better. RBG Street Scholar/ 2007 "Taking It Back To The Good Ole Days" A RBG Street Scholar Education Design

[RBG Street Scholar]

[Kefentse_Bandele]

As Jemchi's daddy alway's tells me, "Stay away from dem traps!"

Peace!

[RBG Street Scholar]

Originally Posted by Kefentse_Bandele

As Jemchi's daddy alway's tells me, "Stay away from dem traps!"

Peace!

Yes brotha , u know that and i know that but we are not the target-our youth are.You know our would be recruits.
This is so important i have it posted in two threads/lessons.


OK I'll give you'll a hint..."Have you ever seen this high tech bigot do such a fine marketing job?"
But for what, why and how is my question to you--THIS IS A REAL THINK PIECE/We are at war.

Another Hint. The Video is from:
A site called WSHH (world star hip hop.com) VideoTUBE - "YouTUBE For Da Hood" (BETA)
hip hop music, rap music, mixtapes, g-unit, 50 cent music, music download site, buy music downloads, hip hop mixtapes, mixtape monday, rap mixtape, ...
www.worldstarhiphop.com/ -

[SistahVine_X]

The good ole days is gone...LOLOLOL...It is about better days On an even playing field!!!... GET THE PICTURE... OOOH...THAT HANGING PART STILL DON'T SIT WELL AND WILL NEVER FLY!

I STILL ADMIRE ................

HOTEP ...PEACE AND BLESSINGS

[Kefentse_Bandele]

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

GET THE PICTURE...

Nope I sure don't sista...what are you talking about?

Peace

[SistahVine_X]

First off, the old days is just that...THE PAST...which to me means that during the old days all the hip-hop artist came from or was living in New York!!! and Now until the end of our days on this earth that will not be the case... GET THE PICTURE!!!

Secondly, the even playing field means the dj's, club owners, radio stations and others on the east coast need to get over their NY/east coast egos...EVEN PLAYING FIELD...GET THE PICTURE

We all know who the founding fathers is and yeah they have gotten their recognition...So now if their is something else to be taught by them...I say do it with respect and love for the next brotha and sistah trying to find their way in this music game...cuz not everyones culture the same and it(culture) varies across this country and this world...REMEMBER WHAT DEAD PREZ SAY..."IT'S BIGGER THAN HIP-HOP"...and I agree!!!

AGAIN HOTEP, PEACE AND BLESSINGS

[Kefentse_Bandele]

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

First off, the old days is just that...THE PAST...which to me means that during the old days all the hip-hop artist came from or was living in New York!!! and Now until the end of our days on this earth that will not be the case... GET THE PICTURE!!!

Uhh no i dont. I dont know how old you are, but all the hip hop artist were not living and didnt come from new york i.e MC Shy D, Ice T, Awesome Dre and the Hard core Committee, the Gucci Boys, etc.....broading your knowledge of hip hop.

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

Secondly, the even playing field means the dj's, club owners, radio stations and others on the east coast need to get over their NY/east coast egos...EVEN PLAYING FIELD...GET THE PICTURE

I agree. But it's 2008 and Dj's and club owners have less to do with hip hop than turn tables and freestyle battles.

OUR PEOPLE NEED TO OWN OUR OWN RADIO STATIONS AND PLAY REAL HIP HOP AS WELL AS R&B ALL ACROSS THE BOARD!

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

We all know who the founding fathers is and yeah they have gotten their recognition...So now if their is something else to be taught by them...I say do it with respect and love for the next brotha and sistah trying to find their way in this music game...cuz not everyones culture the same and it(culture) varies across this country and this world...REMEMBER WHAT DEAD PREZ SAY..."IT'S BIGGER THAN HIP-HOP"...and I agree!!!
AGAIN HOTEP, PEACE AND BLESSINGS

"All you old school rappers tryin to advance it's all over now take it like a man. Niggas lookin like larry holmes flabby and sick tryin to playa hate on my shit, eat a fat dick" were the words written by the all mighty and great African revolutionary of our time Tupac Shakur... What elder would or should respect crap like that? Respect is taken or earned, not given...Young rappers (the majority) don't respect their root. Plain and simple. It aint a matter of complaining. Its a matter of respecting the tree that allows you to be a glutenous pig.

As far as culture, every person who's ancestors were stolen from Africa in this country has the same slave culture. Our tribalism may blind us to this FACT, but it's true. We don't have culture, we emulate europeans who are anti-culture.

As far as dead prez goes, tell me about them when they stop dressin up like pimps talkin about how they "like to get pussy like every other nigga"...

And we wonder why artist 2day have no longevity...

[SistahVine_X]

I am 38 and know very well about the others...but they were not mentioned in this essay and most times when the founding fathers are mentioned...the people you mentioned is and won't be spoken of...SO PLZ CONTINUE TO BROADEN MY KNOWLEDGE!!!

RESPECT HUH...THEIR IS A WARNING WE ADULTS/ELDERS SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE HEED OF...IT SAYS THAT THE PARENTS SHOULD NOT AGITATE THEIR CHILDREN...AS WELL AS WE SHOULD RESPECT OUR ELDERS...SO LETS GET SOME BALANCE ON THIS ISSUE!!!

When the tree gets its nutrients from the ground tru its roots...the ground people has a right to partake when hungry...cuz if their is no ground the roots will die......... SO LETS GET SOME RESPECT IN THIS MUG!!! The winds will shake the tree automatically so we don't need to throw sticks for the fruits to fall............THE VIBRATIONS FROM THE SOUTH GOT THAT ON LOCK FOR US ALL!!!.........LIKE IT OR NOT WE ARE HIP-HOP!

GET THE PICTURE

[Kefentse_Bandele]

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

When the tree gets its nutrients from the ground tru its roots...the ground people has a right to partake when hungry...cuz if their is no ground the roots will die.........

Is this a proverb or somethin sista?

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

SO LETS GET SOME RESPECT IN THIS MUG!!!

Yeah u definitely old school...lol I aint heard the word "MUG" in years..LOLOLOL I though that was a Detroit thang

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

THE VIBRATIONS FROM THE SOUTH GOT THAT ON LOCK FOR US ALL!!!.........

You aint serious right? Southern rap besides a few notables like Outkast, Ghetto boys, T.I., LUDA and a few others absolutley SUCKS!!! Sales don't determine quality so don't go there. Crack sales a lot also.

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

LIKE IT OR NOT WE ARE HIP-HOP!

GET THE PICTURE

Uhhhh im just an African. Hip Hop is a form of African music. Hip Hop came from me not vice versa.

GET THE PICTURE...lol

[SistahVine_X]

YEAH AND A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT EAST COAST RAPPERS SO THEIR YOU GO!!!....the difference is we don't be on national tv talking bad about yall music even tho we can and have the right to if we wanted too!!!!!!!...but basically we know that it would take too much of our energy when we could be grinding!!!......LOL!!!

If east coast rappers have that much of a problem with southern rappers...if it bothers yall that much...then why don't you guys start hip-hop camps in the south that would help the up and coming artist with their art form...CUZ YALL ALREADY KNOW THAT A LACK OF VOCABULARY/EDUCATION WILL NOT STOP THE GRIND!!!!!!!!
GET ON THE TRAIN OR BAG THE HELL BACK!!!........LOL

I don't know any one who is gonna continue to let someone/group down them and their efforts to improve their economic and or social situation...with out lashing back @ some point!!!

As for us being hip hop...we that and much more...but yall won't figure that out until yall stop throwing salt... BUT MAYBE THAT IS NOT THE CASE...it is easy to see the bad in your brothers and sisters when your agenda is a selfish one!!!....SO I SAY TO ALL THOSE WHO FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT THE SOUTH...keep the haterration in hatterville ...WHILE WE TURN THIS MUTHER OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

YALL GONE MAKE ME TAKE MY HIJAB OFF...LIKE LIL BOOSIE SAY " I TOLD CHURCH TAKE OFF MY COLLAR I'M BOUT TO TAKE IT THERE"............LOLOL

PEACE AND LOVE

[Kefentse_Bandele]

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

YEAH AND A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT EAST COAST RAPPERS SO THEIR YOU GO!!!....the difference is we don't be on national tv talking bad about yall music even tho we can and have the right to if we wanted too!!!!!!!...but basically we know that it would take too much of our energy when we could be grinding!!!......LOL!!!

Who is y'all? I think my location say's Detroit which id Midwest. I love Hip Hop, not East coast music. I love music period and posses music from all over the world in various genres.

Grinding? Aren't you a Muslim woman?

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

If east coast rappers have that much of a problem with southern rappers...if it bothers yall that much...then why don't you guys start hip-hop camps in the south that would help the up and coming artist with their art form...CUZ YALL ALREADY KNOW THAT A LACK OF VOCABULARY/EDUCATION WILL NOT STOP THE GRIND!!!!!!!!
GET ON THE TRAIN OR BAG THE HELL BACK!!!........LOL

What are you talking about sista? All East coast rappers don't have a problem with southern rappers and all southern rap or hip hop ain't whack so get off yo "we the south all in this together" b.s..especially when T.I and LUDA was damn near about to kill each other over "THE KING OF THE SOUTH" nigga shit!! Your southern hip hop unity don't apply here.

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

I don't know any one who is gonna continue to let someone/group down them and their efforts to improve their economic and or social situation...with out lashing back @ some point!!!

You have to expect this. Its hip-hop. Either you can persevere it, or like 50 cent did to Ja Rule, your career is smashed. Southern rappers such as Outkast as I mentioned before have persevered along with a few others. AS I said, sales don't determine quality and neither does longevity in a lot of cases.

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

As for us being hip hop...we that and much more...but yall won't figure that out until yall stop throwing salt... BUT MAYBE THAT IS NOT THE CASE...it is easy to see the bad in your brothers and sisters when your agenda is a selfish one!!!....SO I SAY TO ALL THOSE WHO FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT THE SOUTH...keep the haterration in hatterville ...WHILE WE TURN THIS MUTHER OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

Come down off your southern rap b.s. soap box sista. Again who is y'all? I'm from Detroit. My "AGENDA" is African liberation, not negro capitalism. You keep on "TURNIN THIS MUTHER OUT" (mc hammer, west coast oakland circa 1990)

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

YALL GONE MAKE ME TAKE MY HIJAB OFF

There is no God but Allah. This includes hip-hop.

Originally Posted by SistahVine_X

...LIKE LIL BOOSIE SAY " I TOLD CHURCH TAKE OFF MY COLLAR I'M BOUT TO TAKE IT THERE"............LOLOL

PEACE AND LOVE

I guess lil boosie's adversaries were worried about him huh....

[YorubaQueen]

Peace...
I just want to say that I'm glad of this post...When I was a kid I was NOT into hip hop at all (Milwaukee raised) I listened to my momma and daddy's music (Motown, jukejoint blues, country, R&B when it was GOOD R&B) but as I got older I started getting into it and started to appreciate it a little more. And I was also able to tie the connections between hip hop and daddy's blues as well...it really was tied together for me at least.

This article did help me with the originators of hip hop and what it truly means and meant. Now this new bullshit that is out (I can kill any Lil' anybody) makes me appreciate old school even more...I just hope that we can go back to the old days again and have DECENT hip hop again...

TY for this post and KB and SistahVineX yallare killing and educating me at the same time lol...
YQ

[tyydae]

If you do no expose yourself to other genres of music, hip-hop will become something you will possibly eventually outgrow. I listen to a lot of others kinds of music, and ever so often I'll turn on the radio, and hear something that is pleasing to my ears.

The last rap song I found myself head-banging to was "I'm So Hood" the remix. It is one of the crunkest song out there. I especially like Ludacris's part. I am not going to front, it is nothing out there like a black man's swagger. I'm a native of P-H-I-L-L-Y, and Lil' Geezy, (actually his persona in this video) reminds me of how the guys in Philadelphia, all stand around in the clubs, streets, mall, parks, etc. looking and how they sound when they speak. That damn swagger is appealing. Whoooooooo!

If you look close enough at the video, in the beginning of the song (before Geezy begins rapping) he turns his cap around; if that is not some brother shit, I don;t know what else you want. That cocky, arrogant, swagger. Like he's saying, "Before I get started, let me get comfortable"

There is nothing like eyeing a black man in the state's Art Musuem, with Timberlands, t-shirt, jeans, and a ball cap.

[Majadi]

buffoons, clowns, in the forms of pimps, hustlers, drug dealers, thugs, gangsters. We parade ourselves in gold chains with a white jesus floating about the end of it. We sing, rap, dance like the old image of the buck, grinning and jiving for white folks. If we were as bad as we pretend to be the player/pimp image would not pervade the television, radio.

This is from a blog I have on my blogpage (shameless plug). I thought it perfectly suitable in reference to those of us who,
"stand around in the clubs, streets, mall, parks, etc..."
With
"...That damn swagger...That cocky, arrogant, swagger."

That cockiness is fine, I have it many brothers like myself have it, yet I am a revolutionary who at 38 has been committed to our movement since the age of 17, having lost a wife, many friends and money behind my love for Afrikan people. The arrogance is fine, I have been called "warmonger", "demagogue" and even "arrogant" behind my love for Afrikan people. I have one hell of a swagger or rather one heaven of a swagger as I am descendant of an Afrikan GOD/DESS energy, I am Afrikan, bad, and beautiful. I am a poet, I am a B-Boy and these are defined by my being Afrikan. I am a warrior, a scholar and when neccesary a killer and these are defined by my being Afrikan. Now let us ask "weezy" "luda", and the likes of "50 Cent", and others how committed they are to their people. Our "stance" and our bravado must be set on a foundation of real committment to our women, children and our people. Ask these gentlemen about life long committments like mine and then we can argue on equal ground. I have had my life threatened on live radio and in physical confrontation for love of AFRIKA. Is this the same "swagger" that these men have? I am calling them to the carpet, where were they at the Jena 6 rallies in New Orleans when Mos Def called them out. Perhaps their slavemasters....excuse me...record labels would not allow them to go!