6 Indigenous African Religions (Spiritual Cultures) Practiced in West

[Goddess IsIs Akkebala]

Hoteph Beloved Ones, thank you all for allowing me to feast with you all:

Ancestral greetings, loving, and light throughout all creations, and beyond.

Warrior Temu, I am so One with you (Sun Ra). As for the THIRD EYE, we have from my present knowledge 7 and I was recently told that we have a total of 9 EYES. Another discussion.

Kundalini is the Evolutionary Energy, and the Charkas energies, cannot be compared to no religion. Universal/Cosmic THANG.

http://www.lycaeum.org/altered/kundalin/kundart.htm
http://www.discernment.org/kundalin.htm

http://www.llewellynencyclopedia.com/article.php?id=249
http://www.crystalinks.com/chakras.html

Spiritual intercourse, the sole journey to the center (core) of one’s beingness—the experience of the No-Self past the concept of an immortal soul and the illusion of an imagined separate self. What many imagine to be God lives as us in oneness within a divine darkness, which is invisible because of its overbright brightness (luminosity). “One� must enter the Dark Magic Theatre of the Soul (Church Perilous) by the annihilation of the false sense of an individual entity; but the first stage of contemplation is an increased feeling of the body—naked thought and blynd feeling of universal impersonal interbeing. Spiritual intercourse is an abandoning process of all that is conceptually illusionary. “I� am dispersed in all things as all things, and in abandoning the imaginary “me� we gather ourselves back together as “The One.�

Those who do not desire this lovemaking, will never experience loving in its totality, as it is designed to BE and IS.

Being willing to be a SEEKER, and that leads into being an EXPLORER like a SCIENTIST we (Afrikans are), and that leads to EXPERIENCE, and that leads to becoming an EXPERT, and the next thing we will discover is that we are not BELIEVER (must be done away with), and we land in the realms of that of KNOWERS. Knowing and belief is two definitions. Knowing is Universal/Cosmic, exalted: likened to stars, for example, in height or distance from ordinary places or people, of whole universe: relating to the whole universe. We are Afrikan Stars/Stars of Afrika.

We came here to earth to experience all (5) dimensions . Lenght, width, height, time, and space, and time and space is where we should be presently.

Study the life of an Eagle, for nature guides of all.

In Spirituality there is nothing but Celestial blissfulness, loving, joy, peace, solitude, serenity, truths…and the likes of. That is all I have to offer the world, and out side of those, I have nothing else to offer, as I STRIVE to continue to Be the Change The World Needs To See.

A belief is like asking for Mercy. Asking/having Mercy, one is capable of breaking the laws of what they believe at any time, like a person on Parole. In jail one minute and out the next.

Knowing is like having GRACE. It’ Cosmic/Universal. You KNOW what time IT IS (what to do, when and how to do it). NO IFS, ANDS, MAYEBS & BUTS…and the likes. Present with the ancestors and the Divine Creator. Traveling on plains (not planes) that never crash. One has arrived. One IS home. I AM THAT I AM. I AM ME. I AM free. I AM KUNDALINI (circular power), totally exclude from concepts and ideas of other influences. Astral Solo flying (experiencing all five dimensions). No one is free until they have mastered themselves. The energies within us, can heal us.

Believe it or not my beloved (Afrikan brothers and sisters) we are the Kundalini people (KNOWERS), because there was Spirituality before any religion.

Once we (Afrikans) know this, there will be nothing, we will not be able to Conquer, for we are Thee Miracle, thee Majestic and conquerors, but many just do not KNOW THY SELF AS SOUL. Only concepts and ideas of what others say we should BE. that we are not, and we MUST be careful of who DISCOVER us.

But first man must dare to think beyond the world of form — this is the key. For as long as man clings to the world of form he only continues to look into the mirror of his own delusion. That delusion contains beautiful things, beautiful props, but it is still the world of delusion. Glories beyond anything that man has dreamed await him, but they have nothing to do with form. KUNDALINI

Who is God? IT IS the essence of the concept or idea of all that IS unseen, and IT dwells beyond the boundaries of the universe. God IS the SINEW of all energy. God is ENERGY, POWER, & SPIRIT. (Osiris) Author of the Book “ LIES ABOUT GOD� publisher@charter.net/Barnes and Noble.

“Ye are gods�. Masters of Our Temple Domain.

Religion and Spirituality is like oil and water, and we ither love one and hate the other (two lovers on a One way street). Many of our Afrikan brothers and sisters living in Afrika NOW, do not even KNOW that there was Spirituality before religion (Honorable John Clarke speech).

When we are the lien-holders of our own conscious and being non-conformist (which reveals truths), we can become Channelors, Knowers, again as we was in the beginning, and this TELEVISION is nothing like anything on earth. It’s Cosmic/Universal.

We are ither IT or not, and God IS IT. So I say beloved Ones. SO BE IT.

Everyone has an inner drive to excel or be special at some thing—to be unique. Sometimes people reach for this in negative ways. The underlying drive in all people, however, is one of evolution—to reach for enlightment, to be God-like while still human.
KUNDALINI

We find that we are all called to go beyond our humanness toward greater heights. The kundalini energy pushes each of us toward this goal of ENLIGHTMENT-KNOWING the light, KNOWING God. KUNDALINI.

Afrikans are the sinew/essence of the High GOD (Thee Chosen).

As long as we subject ourselves to concepts and ideas of what is man-made, and not be lien-holders of our own conscious, there will be NO EVOLUTION, (man is mind), there will be no REVOLUTION, No SOLUTION, and we will forever remain in the oppressor INSTITUTION under their CONSTITUTION, which is STUPIDTUTION.

Beloved Ones, we heard “get a grip on your self�?

It is STUPIDTUTION or FREEDOMTUTION. Spirituality IS SOUL FOOD.

Beloved, I make no attempt to force Spirituality on anyone. I AM A MESSENGER. I come. I share. One accept or reject. The choice is yours. I move on.

God IS Spirit, and nowhere would anyone find where IT says that God is religious.

Spirituality is our BailsBondsman/woman.

There will come a time when this whole world will be like a piece of meat in an emergency sandwich, and Thee SWORD (truth) will be revealed. Weed and Seed time. To Be or Not to Be.

My aim is to stay above the madness now, and when the shaking, rattling, and rolling of this world begin, I aim to fly over the madness even if I have to fly on the wings of a buzzard.

Can we all collectively meditate on this one thing?

Let all those who have good sense get power.
Let all those who have power get good sense.

Here is IsIs loving you all no matter what you believe, practice, and do not believe or practice nothing. My loving for you does not end like a period behind a sentence.

Come NOW, and lets reason together. If Not NOW. When?

Hoteph

goddess IsIs Akkebala/Iya of Afrika (Spirituality is My Identity/Title/Crown-Holy Spiritual lover)
Mother of ALL goddesses
goddess Of Afrika
Black Sheep (Chosen)
I Dream of Afrika
MY TASTE RUNS AFRIKAN ROYAL
Being The Change The World Needs To See
Spiritually Raw
IAmness with Thou
Energy, Power, Spirit
The Beauty of Being a African Nubian Queen Goddess IS the Energy, Power and Spirit to REVEAL herself whenever SHE VIBES like It, AFRIKAN Style.
IAM that IAM
IAM Me. IAM Free
It is time to condemn the lie and elevate the truth.
We must cause trouble (with the truth) until our liberation!!!
Completely loving the Afrikan Carbon Nation.

I speak to you from THEE Frontier of THEE Future on THEE Outskirts of THEE City of Eternity.

I AM A MESSENGER. I come. I share. Either accept or reject. The choice is yours. I move on.

Afrika! Afrika! Afrika! Afrika! Afrika! Afrika! Afrika! AFRIKA!
Afrika!

[IfasehunReincarnated]

If I haven't mentioned as yet, religion is used in this sense simply (and for no other reason) than to provide a common frame of reference. African "religion" is really African "blueprints". We study, cultivate, refine and pass on spiritual sciences, or techniques. We honor two notions:

• We stand on the shoulders of our ancestors. Many people do not understand this addage and use it figuratively. It means that we recognize and depend on the work of the wise before us. We connect with them spiritually. We remember their physical lessons as well. We really talk to ancestors. We dont just "hope" they will help me out or hope for signs. We actually work with them, through them and by their direction.
  
  In genuine African spirituality we recognize the power of collective study, even spiritual study and we pass information along via spiritual lineages, some of which are based by blood or kin, some of which are strictly communal. Cant we figure it out on our own? As individuals? Yes. But we can figure it out faster with help. The notion that individuality is more important or more productive is european thinking. So, we gather, meditate, ritualize, actualize in groups. We use and contribute to the body of spiritual knowledge that was amassed by the last generation. Hence, the notion of congregations and "spiritual socities". This can not be stressed enough. All of your individual spiritual studies should be complemented by both living and deceased WISE elders for maximum effect.
  
  Even the example of meditate on one source, most of ask, "but how do you meditate?" To that I answer, through methods taught, refined and elevated by those before you. This is the indigenous way of doing things. If we know there are patterns of breathe that breed "evil" or "misalignment" we past that on to the next generations of spiritual students. But if a student does not believe they need a teacher or even a peer, they will not have this information. So they will learn the long, hard way. While the student that has the "advantage" can focus on the CONTENTS of the meditation, and not trying to figure out HOW to meditate. The same applies for rituals, cleansings, purfications, healings, etc etc.
  
• The Proof is in the Pudding. I always say that any person that tells you that Hell is awaiting you unless you prescribe to their God or their terms does not actually know God. The best way to inspire someone is to just live the best you can on any given day. Allow them to see you rise and fall, get back up, remain humble, express joy, transfer setbacks into new opportunities etc. But one thing is true, if your spiritual practice is not making you happy or if you are just as confused as you were when you started, you are probably following the wrong path or not listening to your elder teacher or not applying yourself. Something IS wrong. If your pudding doesnt look appetizing, we have to assume your ingredients got jumbled.
  
• How you gonna turn your back on your own Mama's Cookin? I would never go to a cookout and tell someone that their cooking was better than my mama's. That is unnatural. With that said the primary purpose of this thread is to gently remind people that if you are still searching for a way to process your spiritual journey, look to your own mother Africa before you (1) go follow a teacher or spiritual science that doesnt recognize and appreciate your africanity. (2) before you assume that all of this is "mumbo-jumbo"..the reality is that most of "think" we know about spirituality and religion in general, when in fact we only really know how horribly inadequate "their" stuff is...we haven't even sat down at the table of Africa yet.
  
• Lastly, there is nothing inherently wrong about "living" religion. Religion that is propelled by real communion with the ancestors, Diety, earth, etc. This is how white have us salty on our own stuff, on our own journey. THEIR religions are dead. They have no means to communicate with their ancestors. They have no possession. They have no meditation. They have no divination. They have no real spiritual science. All they have is dogma. Rigid, uncompromising, unwise rules that dont fit everyone. THIS is the kind of religion that we reject. But we dont close our minds to the organizing principle in general. Everything in society benefits from organization. This is my take religion. I realize I may in the minority. But I am redefining or reclaiming the word and the idea and demonstrating that it has worth outside of the "eurocentric" example.

[Akyeame Kwame]

y isn't there an "already have" poll option?

Akyeame_Kwame

[Jahness]

My sentiments exactly Akyeame_Kwame ... As a matter of fact you know what, this whole issue of polls in this forum has to really be looked at, in my humble opinion. So many of the polls leave out basic options, such as with this poll not having "The already have adopted our ancestors spiritual ways". Why do we take these polls, is it to make the forum look busy as if we are really doing something when we are doing nothing, or do we really care about the questions we asked and what our members think or feel.

I understand that not at all times, can all options be available for everyone, but the poll must have some sense to it, and please poll creators, do not take this personally, this is not a personal attack on anyone. It's just an observation on my part. If no one else finds a problem with the way these polls are given, then Just stating my views here in the forum is fair enough for me.

Another thing we would have some serious topics posted in the forums, we would have a million (exaggerated but hope one day for the forum) views but no replies or one or 2 replies. Some of these topics are issues we deal with on a daily basis in our communities, yet we are still hesitant to talk or discuss them.. How else are we going to help our people. We have to make a conscious decision are we up to the task of our liberation, or are we going to leave it up to other people to help us solve our own problems.

Come on brothers and sisters we have a forum here that is supposed to be the beacon of light in conscious thought, traditional ways, political struggle, a place where we come to learn and share and we should make good use of it. Lets use each day to try and reach as much of our people as possible, by giving them conscious food for thought, with history, culture, self awareness, good information, various spiritual teachings, so we can all better understand who we are as a people and what it is we are really fighting for which is the total liberation of our people.

Thanks for allowing me to share.

Just my 2 cents.

One Love & Respect Always

[Akyeame Kwame]

wow Jahness,

BlackNificently said...you gon' have to change your username to Lioness!

Akyeame_Kwame

[Jahness]

Akyeame_Kwame some days I do feel like a lioness roar and all when I observe certain things.

I try not to be too hasty with my opinions, and make a conscious effort to watch and really observe before I speak, but this poll issue has been on my mind for a while, and I had to speak up today.

Thanks for the support and thanks for allowing me to share.


One Love & Respect Always

[RecoveringAA]

Do you expect me,
to turn the other cheek
Taste me tears and admit defeat
Do you expect me, to listen when you speak
You never ever practice what you preach
Do you expect me, to still come out and vote
No matter what happens I'm always broke
And the people, say dem tired a bein poor
That the Empress a CHANT
And the Lion a ROAR

A what was dis?
(Tanya Stephens, 2004, Gangsta Blues, #15)

[IfasehunReincarnated]

This poll was added at a period when there were only TWO praticitioners of indigenious spiritual systems on this board. If you haven't noticed by now I use loaded questions as segueways..lol

The board has gone through some transitions. But I guess maybe a year or more ago XXPANTHAXX and I discussed the need to bridge a gap between Afrikan traditionalists/spiritualists and secular pan-afrikanists. We discussed by phone and agreed that these are buttons on the same coat. This conversation launched the decidely Africentric backdrop to which so much pan-african, political and militant minded information is disseminated on this site.

If you go elsewhere you will notice that most pan-afrikan sites do not and will not feature as much talk and resources towards afrikan spirituality. for obvious reasons many think that's its black to reject spirituality, when it on the contrary very WHITE. with that in mind, we began injecting the forums with african cultural themes, and in particular discussions of spirituality and established spiritual systems, lineages or religions as some call them to find their more easy to understand.

In any case, I reiterate, the poll was added at a point when only two people openly identified themselves as believers and devotees of any afrikan spiritual lifestyle. One was a Orisa and Sango priest and the other was myself a Orisa devotee (now a priestly initiate and trainee). Since that time, many devotees of Akan, Kemetic and Orisa based traditions have joined - we can tell by the names they choose - many of which cant be found in books or given out haphazardly at Kwanzaa Expos, but again many of them choose to lurk on the site rather than openly participate.

To date, I would say there are about 8 members that openly identify and participate in genuine afrikan spiritual systems that are governed, led and evolved through ancestral custom. (thats a real pretty way saying only about 8 people that are open with theirs and actually seem to be genuinely practicing an ancestral tradition as opposed to something they created out of their individual imaginations. lol)

I wish the others, and their are lots of them would come out the woodwork and assist in demonstrating that pan-afrikanism and afrikan spiritualism are two parts of one whole. Its long overdue.

I could add new items to the poll, given the new crop of members that are practicing our traditions.

[Akyeame Kwame]

Peace Ifasehun,

I figured you were trying to draw folks out of the woodwork/bait them to educate on this thread with those "not yet," "don't", "probably won't" poll options...thanks for the new option...

Obadele

[RecoveringAA]

Greetings family, and

THANK YOU IFA for the clarity.

It is really helpful, as a newbie to forum, to have specific information regarding purpose, plans, and "politriks" of any system one is working within.

At least they "taught" me in school to gather data (information) about a topic as a first step to gaining knowledge. You have provided an invaluable piece for me and again, I THANK YOU!! :cheers:

Much Love and Re~spect

Thanks for allowing me to Share

[NarMer the 7th SuN]

peace.

IFA....nice info and definitely great links!!!!! Thanx brotha. RESPECT.

Temu...and Goddess....nice breakdowns. RESPECT.


as far as it goes for me and what I do..,

...I just do me and work with my personal "bond." I have a foundation (culture/way of life; and yes it has a label, but I don't see any importance in it..my focus is on things I'm soon to state..)...and I always expand from it. I STRIVE to think, apply and live within it...., respecting/acknowledging others (cultures, re-lig-ions, spirituality, Godly related and other theological views or doctrines, etc) and that knowledge is infinite.

I've never been one to tell someone to adopt my way of life, or another's. Some things work for certain people, some don't...and other things might work instead. Minor Example: never a Christian, but I'm well-read into this belief system..and don't like it..do to some personal reasons, opinions (i.e. the pyschological job it can do on people), and many facts....--so because of this...this religion I would never take up. It just wouldn't sit well with me.


I'm not bound by religion (to bind)...or any other ideology (no disrespect to anyone), but I have ideas (they don't have me). Some of them are my own, some of them I've found "elsewhere," some passed down for eons documented, and other ones are reflections of many things I have read that pertain to this aspect of life and thought.

...I keep an open and free mind...and can't stress the importance of that in my life experiences. Our ancestors WORKS and contributions (any type) can be found everywhere and anywhere...which is why I strive to maintain an open mind--for I may come across some old "new" knowledge to comprehend..and absorb if I find practical/suitable for my mind, body, way of life and soul.

eversince I've been in the above realm..., like someone else stated, "I've never looked back." It's a beautiful thing and I'm thankful. It's strange to say.., but what I am "into" and practice..somehow feels NATURAL..like it's always been a part of me. Just like my heart beating right this moment...and the air I am breathing. Hard to explain., just a really good connection...with the open mind of course.



....ALWAYS LEARNING......

knowledge of self....is always a plus!

PEACE!

Narmer the 7th SuN

Beware of conditions similar to the Tower of BabeL.

"KNOW THY SELF"

[Kweku_Omowale]

ifa i am camdomble/afrikan spiritual devotee,although i dont see many things posted about that you know,people wonder how the haitians defeated the french,well people,need not to think again,ancestral wisdom and ancestral power,as one haitian told me

[XXPANTHAXX]

Sister Queen Jahness and Warrior King Akyeame_Kwame, the poll has been edited to reflect ya'll views, asante sana for pointing it out..

[Imhotep]

I am with Narmer. Religion period is only a vehicle to higher consciousness. At some point you have to graduate. The problem I find with religion and those who practice it is they don't graduate from the religion. Religion comes from the latin word "Relagare" and was transposed into "Religion" -- Re meaning to go back and ligion meaning to bind or yoke.

To understand the essence of the term, one must look at the myths in each spiritual system. Every system deals with the fall of man in varying degrees. We are all disconnected from the "source." No matter the story, the spirit that dwells with man was once with the creator and now it is disconnected. Therefore, a system was set up in place to help man get back to his original essence. That is the purpose of religion: to bring you back and bind you to your original essence which is God.

We have people who have been practicing religion for decades and still doesn't get it. These are people who are Christian as well as African based. They never trandscend the religion and forever identifies with the religion.

People who are spiritual do not identify with the religion, because it is a way of life. It cannot be conceptualized. That's why the religions are named by outsiders for the ethnic group that is known to participate in that spiritual system. This is why we call it the Ife, Yoruba, Kemetic (Shetaut neter), etc. systems, because we are used to naming it after the people.

I have learned to take religion, no matter who is behind it, for what it is, a vehicle for divine understanding of self and the world around me. But there comes a time when one must graduate. That's when you know you have reached the Amentet.

Asar Imhotep

[IfasehunReincarnated]

Asar, you can troll from thread to thread if you like. But you're about 2 posts from being banned. Dont, I repeat dont try to go there with me.

I have already stated, and you would know this if you had bothered to read the entire thread prior to posting, that i only use the term "religion" to have a common word of understanding. African spiritualities are not "religions" per se, they are blueprints for living.

We have already established that you do not study with any authorized elder, you do not know an ancient method for speaking or being possessed by our ancestors, furthermore you do not have mastery of any divination system and lastly you do not know how to properly call out, make sacrifice to or ask the assistance of any African divinity. So you are not in a position to speak authortatively about what there is to "graduate from".

A cardinal rule of Africa when speaking of spirituality is to always be sure to declare "what you do and do not know". And not to pretend to know anything or instruct on anything of which you are ignorant. Do you consider yourself to be in a position to not only coral african and european traditions together, but also to tell us what our "problem" is when you and i know you have never stepped inside a temple in your life?

Afrikans do not graduate from their spiritual experience. We do not graduate from working, in a literal sense with our Ancestors. We do not graduate from rituals. We do not graduate from meditation. We do not graduate from our inner core. I am only going to ask you once, to lay your intellectual burden down.

In particular I advise that you "cool out" especially, if this aggression has anything to do with you finally answering and following the administrative directive which I delivered by PM.