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Heaven And Hell??

Heaven And Hell??

Do u believe in HEAVEN and HELL???

Who goes to heaven, who goes to hell? and why??

What is heaven like and what is hell like??



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Talking hmm good question

who goes to heaven who goes to hell huh

here is the list raqin

jesse jackson will go to heaven and have booty calls
al sharpton will go to heaven and have booty calls
omara coz he is a republican will have to go thru hell first
and when he incarnates second time,he will be a white man
( like the movie down to earth)
osama bin ladin will go heaven,arabs believe when they die they will servants in heaven" what ya talking about willis"
the jackson five will go to heaven
michael jackson will be accepted at the entrance because of his songs
" we are the world,we are the children,so lets start giving"
mariah carey,will definetely go to heaven for shaking her booties hehe lol
they need entertainers down there,
and like tupac said" i wonder if heaven gotta ghetto"

i was told once in brazil bya mob of 20 surrounding me,all jehova witness," oh boy,redeem now,sinna!! you gonna go straight to hell"
everybody believes that earth based traditions are pagan,so i guess,it is one way road to hell huh lol lol

ah michael jordan will defitenetely go to heaven for helping ghetto kids and selling shoes for$150 dollars
oprah will go to heaven after working on beloved and the color purple as well lol
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I want there to be a heaven and a hell, whether there is one or not. When I was younger and I went to church I remember they used to say you wouldn't wish hell on your worst enemy...but I don't know about that. I think some people DESERVE hell and I don't have ANY problems wishing hell on people.
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Definitely!

I live in a perpetual state of contradictions my beloved as I lay my body down next to heaven (my wife) and fight this beast I call Global Aryanism (global white supremacy, racism, ad infinitum) everyday inside of hell!


I don't have to imagine either one for they are both as real as I am. I did not offer this as some kind of traipse off into the fog-bound land of esoterica either. This for me is reality, my ancestors particularly Pepi I stated, "...heaven is between a woman's legs!" This is not pornographic it is real as where else would GOD/DESS cum from? I see my wife and I know she is the beginning and end of all things!, It is with her and my children I am most pleased.

What more hell can I suffer than to have this ugly bitch called Global Aryanism hunting and devouring my children! My land was snatched both Afrika and here in North Amerikkka as I am descendant of the mighty Creek/Seminole nation. Hell is not some mythical place after I die, I live it and the landlord is Uncle Sam and is nasty green cousin Lady Liberty.


My children are spiritually and intellectually dying and my activism is the road to heaven my lack of action will leave them to this hellish nightmare!


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I’m not going to go into how the popular belief about “heaven and hell” or “god and the devil” was originally derived from Zoroastrian believing Persians and how it made it’s way into early Judaism, Christianity and Islam; because most religious folks don’t study the cultural and religious histories (or prehistory’s) in which or from which their faiths developed. Or they attempt to twist history to jibe with their faith.

Even Pope John finally came out and said, after 2,000 years of Catholics sending folks to hell or promising the natives heaven if they complied, that there was NO HELL! And the majority of Catholics never did pick up on it…and he was their “official go-between” to God and heaven!

But I think most conscious Black folks agreed many years ago with what the Nation Of Islam taught and made into a song:

“A White Man's Heaven Is A Black Man's Hell”

If we don’t know anything else, we know this is a true and historically proven phenomenon or reality.


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I’m not going to go into how the popular belief about “heaven and hell” or “god and the devil” was originally derived from Zoroastrian believing Persians and how it made it’s way into early Judaism, Christianity and Islam; because most religious folks don’t study the cultural and religious histories (or prehistory’s) in which or from which their faiths developed. Or they attempt to twist history to jibe with their faith.

Even Pope John finally came out and said, after 2,000 years of Catholics sending folks to hell or promising the natives heaven if they complied, that there was NO HELL! And the majority of Catholics never did pick up on it…and he was their “official go-between” to God and heaven!

But I think most conscious Black folks agreed many years ago with what the Nation Of Islam taught and made into a song:

“A White Man's Heaven Is A Black Man's Hell”

If we don’t know anything else, we know this is a true and historically proven phenomenon or reality.


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you can say that again sun ship" whitemans heaven is blackmans hell"

all those jesuits that killed,murdered and slaughtered indigenous peoples everywhere,they will get whats theirs,
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Heaven and hell are states of "being" or conscousness to me. Through thought and action, I create my heaven or hell. Releasing attachment to the material illusion frees me of material "bondage" and my Soul is "free" to ascend to the "heavenly" state of conscious one-ness.

I AM the power of creation manifest. Choice is my tool of creativity and how I wield it determines my conscious state of "being."
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Heaven is what you make it and hell is what you go through.
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Arrow Hmmmm

My heaven is my solitude when Im tucked away In my own corner of this earth, And able to concentrate, think and pray to the most high,Hell Is when I step out my door everyday and face this White society,...But I do wonder,.. where will I go when he call me to go back home
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Heaven and hell are states of "being" or conscousness to me. Through thought and action, I create my heaven or hell. Releasing attachment to the material illusion frees me of material "bondage" and my Soul is "free" to ascend to the "heavenly" state of conscious one-ness.

I AM the power of creation manifest. Choice is my tool of creativity and how I wield it determines my conscious state of "being."
Excellent reply brother…Let’s open the gate and invite all to the resurrection


In taking this subject even more seriously, why should our spiritual aspirations be construed and designed by these dialectical extremes anyway? Someone creates a construct that spiritually exiles the exiled, and then convince us to induce our own self-harassment in the name of salvation, leaving us to contemplate and defend our every action, while hoping to be pitied by a foreign megalomaniacal deity of a lesser creation.

We are condemned to jostle daily with natural urges and death to abridge heavens journey and they make our hell a life full of freedoms denied, all the while we labor away every waking hour for the most comfortable seat in a worm-infested purgatory called democracy. Exhausting our God-minds in deep spiritual ponderance, to understand the illusion of being a man in a godless asylum called America.

Is Heaven and Hell really two separate white-man realms?

Are we so delusional that we see a god and a devil, while there’s only one set of footprints?

I don’t know why we’re searching to find some stratum called Heaven that’s compliant with another’s perverted sense of freedom and pursuit of happiness.

We are beyond the infantile definitions of heaven and hell, for this is not the consequence of our cosmogony or own theological relativism. And is really a corruption of the ancients understanding of the indiscernible dimensions of the universe. Even the apostatical Gospel of Thomas, refute these ideas about an ethereal distant heaven of winged angels; a mythological realm detached from our perceptible universe.

We are multidimensional beings, beyond the parameters defined by the linear religious ordinances of alien usurpers and limited to the perceptions of a Newtonian physical world.

The Black man is the creator and The Black woman is the abode of the ancestor's and the only definable Heaven personified

This knowledge is only accessible and relevant to the most ascended ascetic and the adept

Barbarians and savages need not apply…

Ase!
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Hell can be 9 times greater than your worst nightmare.
Heaven can be 9 times greater than your best dream.

Heaven is supreme consciousness. But there are different levels.
One level could be after you just had an orgasm. That is a high state of mind on that level.
In the supreme level you would be able to think something and make it be reality therefore being completely in the bosom of the Most High.

On other high levels you would have the ability to travel through time past and present in different galaxies and solar systems at will. To get the authority to do this you would have to develope the discipline for the key of higher supreme conciousness.
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Thumbs up well said man

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heaven for me is my quiet moments,hell is to listen to punjabi music day in day out! thats mental torture!
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heaven for me is my quiet moments,hell is to listen to punjabi music day in day out! thats mental torture!
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punjabi music

I like some punjabi reggae
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Heaven and Hell are concepts created by an enemy who has managed to manipulate people into only seeking reward and "kingdoms" in death and not striving to seize power in the life they have right here on earth. Hell is our Static repetitive self indulgent and insecure ego that resides within...nothing more nothing less.
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Who goes to Heaven, Who goes to Hell...

Life is cause and effect, there is no belief system that can stop the laws of the universe as they say "What goes around, comes around." Just like the Earth is 360 degrees, so are the destinies we created for ourselves. What we put out in the universe will at one point or another effect us in the long run. From what I can tell every one who has responded to your post hit the subject on the nose and we come the conclusion that the true heaven and hell is what we go through on Earth. Those that make the wrong decisions will find themselves going through hell and those that do right will be rewarded in some way, shape or form. Now sometimes people find them selves in hell and didn't do any thing wrong. For example a man goes to jail for a crime he didn't commit. Times like these he has to ask himself; is there wrong I did in the past that brought me here? Or am I here to learn something? Life is all about learning and reward and penalty is your guide that teaches you along the way. Ultimately reward and penalty is your heaven and hell you have the control, you make the choice were you want to be.
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