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Origins of the Fictional Characters of the bible, quran and talmud

Origins of the Fictional Characters of the bible, quran and talmud

Mikyia mo (Greetings),

We have added a series of articles on our website at:

http://www.odwirafo.com/nhwehwemupage.html

under the title: Origins of the Fictional Characters of the bible, quran and talmud

We have reprinted a series of message-board posts and e-mails that I made a few years ago on various forums. They are all combined into one large document. The series of posts provide information about the origins of the various fictional characters including: jesus/yeshua ben pandira, moses, aaron, abraham, isaac, ishmael, yahweh, allah, muhammad, bilal, solomon, sheba, menelik, david, and more.

These characters never existed in any form---they were not black, white, asian, arab, hindu, etc.

A great deal of the information is addressed in our 3-CD set KUKUU-TUNTUM, yet there are many details in the articles that are not on the CDs.

If there are any questions, feel free to contact me. The document is quite long.


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the term koran comes from koerish the western tribes from arabia,bilal was an afrikan slave,from ethiopia read blackman from the nile and his family where doctor ben talks about the islamic incursion of afrika
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Mikyia wo (I greet you) Kweku,

I appreciate your response.

This is precisely why I posted this information and gave references of papyrii related to the facts. Bilal is an absolutely fictional character. He was manufactured by the white arabs from a perversion of the descriptive title and functions of the God Set (also called Sut). Set was the major Ntoro (Neter) of the nomadic Kenesu (Ethiopian) "tribes" many of whom dwelled in the deserts east and south of Kamit.

The proper etymology for quran was given in the articles I released. It is a corruption of "Khu Ra". In his books, Dr. Ben was repeating information that was first manufactured by white arabs and eventually perpetuated by Blacks who became muslims hundreds of years ago.

Just as Heru or Horu becomes Horus, the guttaral element in the speach of the arabs caused his name to be pronounced Khorus. This is where we get Khoruish (Koreish) from. This is why many scholars state that "koreish" originally meant "sun", "savior" is related to "cyrus" meaning the "savior" of the so-called "jews" etc.

There are a number of false etymologies in Dr. Ben's work. That's not to say we shouldn't read his work. There is a great deal of good information to be gleaned from his writings also. However, we must go to the texts of Keneset and Kamit as well as the languages of contemporary Afuraka/Afuraitkait (Africa) which are directly derivative of Keneset and Kamit to establish the truth. We must also understand that the ritual practices of many groups, including the Akan, Ewe, Yoruba, Igbo, etc. are identical to that of ancient Keneset and Kamit because we are all connected. We can find the Deities of Kamit in these cultures today, often by the exact same names.

Ananse (Anan-Set) is Set in Akan culture. Set is the God of the Desert. Ananse is the Owner of the Desert. Set becomes the messenger of Ra (see the Cheaster Beatty Papyrus). Ananse is the messenger of the Supreme Being. Set is the great trickster. Ananse is the great trickster. Set is depicted as Red or Black (sacred colors of ancient "Ethiopian" groups). Ananse's sacred colors are red and black.

Additionally, Set is called Sut very often in Kamit. This title, Sut becomes Su and Esu in Yoruba. Of course, Esu is the Divine Messenger, Trickster Whose sacred colors are Red and Black.

These are just a few of the attributes. BTW Set is not the arch-minister of evil as the whites and their offspring have taught us. The notion of Set being the Devil is just as ignorant as saying that Esu is the Devil. The whites corrupted Set's name into Setan/Satan, yet they corrupted His identity.

Set is one of the major protectors of Ra. You'll find Set in the Barque of Ra with a spear stabbing the Great Serpent Apep. Apep attempts to swallow Ra's boat during the 12 hours of the Night. Were it not for the protection of Set, we would not have Daylight (a release of vital energy).

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Htp Sn. This is excellent information. I recall reading back in the 90's in Sex and Race vol. 1 by J.A. Rodgers that the first budda was named Ies Christna and vishnu was named Iesnu. Your post helps show the Eurasian theft/distortations in India too.

I wonder what this portends with regards to the Re-Afrikanization (Re-Indiginization) of the Dhalit, many of whom threw their lot in with the buddhists and muslims as a way of resisting the hindus.

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medase wo ase ra nehem,i also know that term afrika comes from linus afrikanus, anf that the orginal terms are ankheburan,the land of soul and spirits,omeelu nookha,mayaran and ionai( india) i nkow about ainus,dalits,nahkis in china this is great information,once again meda wo ase!
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Mikyia mo (Greetings) Josteele, Simba and Kweku,

I always appreciate your comments on various subjects.

In the interest of correcting the trustorical record I wrote an article/message board post which I republished on my website about Afuraka/Afuraitkait - The origin of the name "Africa". The link is:

http://odwirafo.com/AFURAKA-AFURAITKAIT.html

Many of our scholars just took the words of europeans when dealing with the origin of the term. This has been the cause of a great deal of confusion. When you read through the article and investigate the primary sources: texts from ancient Kamit and the languages of contemporary Afuraka/Afuraitkait (Africa) you will be able to verify the indigenous origin of the name.

Africanus is no different than the corruption of Heru becoming Herus (Horus). Africanus is a greek perversion of an ancient title. The title Afarik (Aourigha) from the Berbers falls in the same category. Our scholars will look at the "first time" the term was used in white (latin) or other texts (berber and arabic) and conclude the term began with them. They never consider the fact that the term was used for thousands of years and that the whites heard it from us and wrote it down in a corrupt fashion. Our investigations into our trustory must move beyond limited methodology. It must be guided by the Nananom Nsamanfo (our Honored Ancestresses and Ancestors).

Buddha is a corruption of the name of the Ntoro (Neter) PTAH. Ptah (Boade in Akan) is the Fashioner, Architect of Creation. (Boade is the Fashioner, Architect, Excavator of Creation in Akan).

The fictional wife and son of Buddha is actually the wife and son of Ptah. Ptah's wife is Sekhmet. Their son is Nefertem. They are the major Divinities of Men Nefer (Memphis).

We deal with the origin of the fictional character buddha in the KUKUU-TUNTUM.

As you said the Dalit are similar to Afurakanu/Afuraitkaitnut (Africans) in america. We "liberated" ourselves from christianity only to become re-enslaved culturally by islam, the fake god allah and the fictional prophet muhammed. The Dalit "liberated" themselves from brahminism/hinduism only to be re-enslaved culturally by islam and buddhism. Both of these fake "religions" force you to steer clear of the Abosom na Nsamanfo (Orisha and Egungun/Arusi and Mmuo/Deities and Ancestral Spirits)----the basis of true worship and alignment with the Supreme Being. This of course being the goal of the whites and their offspring when fashioning false-religion. Their method being to keep us from engaging in true worship---harmonizing with Divine Order---thereby preventing us from recognizing them as our absolute enemies (spirits of disorder). The result is we are blinded from seeking to eradicate them and their influence over us.

When the Dalit as well as a certain percentage of Afurakanu/Afuraitkaitnut (Africans) return to our Ancestral Culture---without white-washed notions of spirituality being part of the return---only then will we fully liberate ourselves.

Ma asomdwoee-Hetep....
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can you be kind enuff brother also to explain the term ankheburan or arkhenuran? i have heard both of them being mentioned,can you be kind enuff
to explain the term antu
muntu and bantu,i am learning from ur posting wow!! my teacher is from the himself,you have great source of info,i will patiently waiting for you other posting,you know about cecil rhodes,the royal geographic society
david livingstone and king leopold the second right
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Mikyia mo (Greetings) Josteele, Simba and Kweku,

I always appreciate your comments on various subjects.

In the interest of correcting the trustorical record I wrote an article/message board post which I republished on my website about Afuraka/Afuraitkait - The origin of the name "Africa". The link is:

http://odwirafo.com/AFURAKA-AFURAITKAIT.html

Many of our scholars just took the words of europeans when dealing with the origin of the term. This has been the cause of a great deal of confusion. When you read through the article and investigate the primary sources: texts from ancient Kamit and the languages of contemporary Afuraka/Afuraitkait (Africa) you will be able to verify the indigenous origin of the name.

Africanus is no different than the corruption of Heru becoming Herus (Horus). Africanus is a greek perversion of an ancient title. The title Afarik (Aourigha) from the Berbers falls in the same category. Our scholars will look at the "first time" the term was used in white (latin) or other texts (berber and arabic) and conclude the term began with them. They never consider the fact that the term was used for thousands of years and that the whites heard it from us and wrote it down in a corrupt fashion. Our investigations into our trustory must move beyond limited methodology. It must be guided by the Nananom Nsamanfo (our Honored Ancestresses and Ancestors).

Buddha is a corruption of the name of the Ntoro (Neter) PTAH. Ptah (Boade in Akan) is the Fashioner, Architect of Creation. (Boade is the Fashioner, Architect, Excavator of Creation in Akan).

The fictional wife and son of Buddha is actually the wife and son of Ptah. Ptah's wife is Sekhmet. Their son is Nefertem. They are the major Divinities of Men Nefer (Memphis).

We deal with the origin of the fictional character buddha in the KUKUU-TUNTUM.

As you said the Dalit are similar to Afurakanu/Afuraitkaitnut (Africans) in america. We "liberated" ourselves from christianity only to become re-enslaved culturally by islam, the fake god allah and the fictional prophet muhammed. The Dalit "liberated" themselves from brahminism/hinduism only to be re-enslaved culturally by islam and buddhism. Both of these fake "religions" force you to steer clear of the Abosom na Nsamanfo (Orisha and Egungun/Arusi and Mmuo/Deities and Ancestral Spirits)----the basis of true worship and alignment with the Supreme Being. This of course being the goal of the whites and their offspring when fashioning false-religion. Their method being to keep us from engaging in true worship---harmonizing with Divine Order---thereby preventing us from recognizing them as our absolute enemies (spirits of disorder). The result is we are blinded from seeking to eradicate them and their influence over us.

When the Dalit as well as a certain percentage of Afurakanu/Afuraitkaitnut (Africans) return to our Ancestral Culture---without white-washed notions of spirituality being part of the return---only then will we fully liberate ourselves.

Ma asomdwoee-Hetep....
Asante sana/Medaase pa. This is good to know. What role did the traditional Afrikan spiritual systems play in the development of the various Asian religions/philosophies like Buddhism/Hinduism? Did the eurasians simply copy what the Afrikans in India/China were doing? Or was this direct plagiarism from Kmt?

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Mikyia mo (Greetings) Kweku and Simba,

Dr. Yosef ben-Jochannan promoted the idea that the name of Afuraka/Afuraitkait (Africa) was Alkebulan. Some are starting to use a different spelling "ankheburan". Alkebulan only goes back to those Afurakanu/Afuraitkaitnut (Africans) who are called moors in the trustory books. It's what would be considered in today's terminology an arabic term. However, Afu Ra goes back over 40,000 years. (In Twi, Afura or Afra is called Afram or Bosom Afram - The God (Bosom) Afram. The feminine form of Afram is Afra in certain Twi dialects)

Bantu is the plural of muntu. Muntu is the authentic human being (Afurakani/Afuraitkaitnit). Kintu means a thing, plant, animal, etc. When the authentic human being engages in behaviour which soils his/her character, he can fall into the condition of kintu. Through spiritual cultivation he/she restores his/her level of Divinely rooted beingness--Muntu.

Ntu is often described as the vibrational root energy of Creation. This is directly related, cosmologically and genetically to the Deities Nu and Nut in Kamit. Ra and Rait rise up out of Nu/Nut----the primordial and inert energy of Creation. The metutu (hieroglyphic symbols) for Nu and Nut contain the wavy lines which sometimes denote water, but also denote vibratory waves. Akyeame Kwame here on the forum speaks Kikongo, one of the Bantu languages, so he can give alot more info. You can also check out Dr. Fu-Kiau's "African Cosmology of the Bantu-Kongo".


hinduism is a direct perversion of the religious practices of the Afurakanu/Afuraitkaitnut (Africans) of India often called the Dravidians. This includes the Bonda people and other Tamil speakers. Their ancient religion is no different of course that Yoruba, Akan, Ewe, Igbo, etc.

Buddhism shows up as another perversion of the hindu perversion. Taoism is a perversion of what the asians gleaned from their contact with the Afurakanu/Afuraitkaitnut (Africans). When Chinese archaeologists, like the famous Kwang Chih-Chang talk about the Shang Dynasty (c1766 BCE to 1022BCE) of Black Kings, they admit that the Chou and Han asian groups who succeded the Shang Dynasty borrowed the elements of civilization from them. This includes the Ancestral religious practices. Of course, they can't communicate with our Ancestresses and Ancestors nor can they communicate with the Deities, but they can imitate and purport to do so. At most, the asians communicate with their own deceased. This is not Deity invocation, no matter what they attempt to convince the world of.

One of the ways that the name Tehuti is spelled in the metutu is with the soft 't' or 'd' metut/symbol. Tehuti is thus pronounced Dahuti. This is why in Kanaan He is called Tauut (Dauut). This becomes Dawud in arabic (Dwd in hebrew) and Dawid or David in english. Yet, Dahut, became Tao in China. The wisdom oracle.

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Mikyia mo (Greetings) Kweku and Simba,

Dr. Yosef ben-Jochannan promoted the idea that the name of Afuraka/Afuraitkait (Africa) was Alkebulan. Some are starting to use a different spelling "ankheburan". Alkebulan only goes back to those Afurakanu/Afuraitkaitnut (Africans) who are called moors in the trustory books. It's what would be considered in today's terminology an arabic term. However, Afu Ra goes back over 40,000 years. (In Twi, Afura or Afra is called Afram or Bosom Afram - The God (Bosom) Afram. The feminine form of Afram is Afra in certain Twi dialects)

Bantu is the plural of muntu. Muntu is the authentic human being (Afurakani/Afuraitkaitnit). Kintu means a thing, plant, animal, etc. When the authentic human being engages in behaviour which soils his/her character, he can fall into the condition of kintu. Through spiritual cultivation he/she restores his/her level of Divinely rooted beingness--Muntu.

Ntu is often described as the vibrational root energy of Creation. This is directly related, cosmologically and genetically to the Deities Nu and Nut in Kamit. Ra and Rait rise up out of Nu/Nut----the primordial and inert energy of Creation. The metutu (hieroglyphic symbols) for Nu and Nut contain the wavy lines which sometimes denote water, but also denote vibratory waves. Akyeame Kwame here on the forum speaks Kikongo, one of the Bantu languages, so he can give alot more info. You can also check out Dr. Fu-Kiau's "African Cosmology of the Bantu-Kongo".


hinduism is a direct perversion of the religious practices of the Afurakanu/Afuraitkaitnut (Africans) of India often called the Dravidians. This includes the Bonda people and other Tamil speakers. Their ancient religion is no different of course that Yoruba, Akan, Ewe, Igbo, etc.

Buddhism shows up as another perversion of the hindu perversion. Taoism is a perversion of what the asians gleaned from their contact with the Afurakanu/Afuraitkaitnut (Africans). When Chinese archaeologists, like the famous Kwang Chih-Chang talk about the Shang Dynasty (c1766 BCE to 1022BCE) of Black Kings, they admit that the Chou and Han asian groups who succeded the Shang Dynasty borrowed the elements of civilization from them. This includes the Ancestral religious practices. Of course, they can't communicate with our Ancestresses and Ancestors nor can they communicate with the Deities, but they can imitate and purport to do so. At most, the asians communicate with their own deceased. This is not Deity invocation, no matter what they attempt to convince the world of.

One of the ways that the name Tehuti is spelled in the metutu is with the soft 't' or 'd' metut/symbol. Tehuti is thus pronounced Dahuti. This is why in Kanaan He is called Tauut (Dauut). This becomes Dawud in arabic (Dwd in hebrew) and Dawid or David in english. Yet, Dahut, became Tao in China. The wisdom oracle.

Ma asomdwoee-Hetep..
Hey Asante sana/Medaase pa.

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Thumbs up mdase wo ase ra nehem!

medasw wo ase ra nehem! this is blackcellent information,about the origins of nuntu,and ntu,good work brother!,thats what i was looking for i will go thru my book,"afrikan cosmology of the bantu kongo"
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Im Pan Afrikan and i have read both
In order to be pan afrikan we dont need to read the B.I.B.L.E
BASIC INSTRUCTIONS FOR BEFORE LEAVING EARTH nor KORAN( KNIGHTS ORGANIZED RAPOING NIGGERS)
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