Was it?

[Nefertiti]

Was catholicism the first religion? I'm debating with some-one who swear it was What was it?(I'm thinking not)

[Elisa Keisha]

of course not. im not an expert in religion at all, but only considering that catholicism is a form of christianity and christianity started with Christ! thats only around 2007 years ago. even if the linage of Christ can be traced back to the "beggining" of time, people where not worshiping anything under his name.

Religion is been always a part of the Human being, always hand in hand with Us when we are conscious of our Spirit. IMO it started as what we call "spirituality", and grow into "religions" as it grow the complexity of the human life/society/structure. In every part of the world where human life existed. So i guess the older religions are those that started in the areas where humans were first. and thats where my narrow knowledge fails me.
I only can name buddist and kemetic religions

[rebelAfrika]

Originally Posted by Nefertiti

Was catholicism the first religion? I'm debating with some-one who swear it was What was it?(I'm thinking not)

The African traditional religions are the oldest religion. They even predate Kemet. I'm pretty sure somebody will try to debate me on this...but they're wrong

[Elisa Keisha]

Originally Posted by rebelAfrika

I'm pretty sure somebody will try to debate me on this...but they're wrong

LOL!!! but yeah, i think i agree with you on this. im just not too aware of whats been goin on in Asia

[rebelAfrika]

Originally Posted by Elisa Keisha

LOL!!! but yeah, i think i agree with you on this. im just not too aware of whats been goin on in Asia

Yes...the various religions that (together) they call "Hinduism" is pretty ancient as well. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY older than Chistianity. Catholicism is one of the oldest forms of Christianity though. Not THEE oldest...but older than ALL forms Protestantism.

[Sun Ship]

Originally Posted by Nefertiti

Was catholicism the first religion? I'm debating with some-one who swear it was What was it?(I'm thinking not)

Sister, I know this is almost an insane question to have to debate…but I understand there is probably some HUGE lack of knowledge as far as the person you are debating this with, so we’ll keep this painfully simple, not for you of course, but for them.

If we use the term religion generically, it is impossible to think that Catholicism was the first religion in the "orthodox western traditional” sense of the word, for it being a part of Christianity, it had to derive in part from it’s predecessor Judaism, that’s clear right in the old testament of the Catholic Christian bible itself!

But what one can easily suppose is that Catholicism was the beginning of what we know as "Christianity" today!

Before the Roman emperor Constantine’s conversion, and advent of Catholicism there was really no definitive institution known as Christianity or Christendom, and the term "Christian" was rarely if ever used. As a matter of fact if I remember correctly, the term Christian may be cited only one time in the Bible itself! Before then, the followers of supposedly the teachings of Jesus were still viewed as followers of a mystical, eastern, and esoteric Judaic cult/religion, and their beliefs varied widely, and that is why the church eventually developed a canon (a rule) to change, choose, edit, and organize whatever writings to be approved for the first bible, and later developed the Christian religion from this, while simultaneously murdering off all other believers of any heretical concepts of the so-called Jesus teachings and pagan religions through what was known as the Inquisition. Also put a lot of book burning in there also…

There is a WHOLE lot more to be filled in the gaps like various councils, such as the Council of Nicene and so forth, but that’s the short down and dirty version.

[Nefertiti]

Thank you everybody so far for this input, I just needed some back up, This guy I was debating Kinda got beside himself almost as if he wanted to fight...I can see why they say politics and religion will be left out of discussion's...I know catholicism wasn't first!!!! I just had to prove my point, and he still was'nt convinced, I guess you gotta let sleeping dogs lay

[Seqenen-Ra]

Originally Posted by Nefertiti

Thank you everybody so far for this input, I just needed some back up, This guy I was debating Kinda got beside himself almost as if he wanted to fight...I can see why they say politics and religion will be left out of discussion's...I know catholicism wasn't first!!!! I just had to prove my point, and he still was'nt convinced, I guess you gotta let sleeping dogs lay

For this individual to try to contest facts presented to her/him shows their ignorance right there. Most Christians i have debated with base their knowledge on what they feel is correct (not what is actually correct from a scientific or historical stand-point). Once i detect their ignorance, the conversation/debate is over. People Who feel they're right will argue all day. People know they're right will not argue at all.

[Im The Truth]

Originally Posted by rebelAfrika

The African traditional religions are the oldest religion. They even predate Kemet. I'm pretty sure somebody will try to debate me on this...but they're wrong

You are right.

[Seqenen-Ra]

Originally Posted by rebelAfrika

The African traditional religions are the oldest religion. They even predate Kemet. I'm pretty sure somebody will try to debate me on this...but they're wrong

Just for clarification, Comrade Rebel Afrika, what so-called religion pre-dates Kemet? i state so-called religion because We (the Black Nation) don't have religion, We have a Birth-Rite. i do know that there is a Spiritual System that pre-dates Kemet because Our Kemetic Ancestors migrated from the interior of Alkebulan. i would like for You to share the information You have.

[Im The Truth]

Kemetic traditions are simply the oldest remembered. It is really arrogance of us to say what is first, second, better, worse, etc. But we do know there were Africans living on the continent before thoses in modern day Egypt or ancient Kemet. We also know the Kemet kindgom was not created in a vaccum nothing is.

[Seqenen-Ra]

Originally Posted by Im The Truth

Kemetic traditions are simply the oldest remembered. It is really arrogance of us to say what is first, second, better, worse, etc. But we do know there were Africans living on the continent before thoses in modern day Egypt or ancient Kemet. We also know the Kemet kindgom was not created in a vaccum nothing is.

Right on Comrade!