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Hotep Righteousness v Religion for me should be Spirituality v Religion. Reading comments from Ahneeahm Ben Israel, I agree that religion is a man made belief system that places man/woman as living dead followers disconnected from our Mother Father Creator. Religions have usurped the true relationship between man/woman and our Gods and marked man's spiritual decline. We all have direct access to our Creator and Gods but over time man has allowed Priests/pastors to be the go-between. As a result our our true spirituality and relationship to the divine is lost. This why our world is in sharp decline despite the dominance of religious faiths and belief systems. Africans in particular have hung on to Christianity and Islam, that tells them they can we be saved! From what? The Priests created the devil/bogey man to get us to fear - something we will never see except projected on others! In the spirit world they see error not evil. This runs parallel to our own belief systems developed by the ancients in Kemet, originally there was no religion just a way of life, there was no concept of death or the devil. Each one knew that the life they lived not only effected their present but impacted on the next life. Your heart had to be light as a feather. This meant that each one was responsible for their actions on a daily basis. Religion later took hold in Kemet when the Priest began to position themselves as the mediator between the Gods and man. This became the blueprint for later religions including traditional African religion. Once we understand the original way was to connect directly with the Creator - we all have a direct line - then and now - once we understand the way is was and should be then we see the role religion has played in seperating us from our own individual God/Goddess/power base. Spirituality has a different emphasis to the idea of Righteousness. Many religions lay claim to being right and indeed those who profess this word are those who have a clear/percieved idea of what is right and wrong. This causes conflict as there will always be disagreements about who's right. Many of us claim to live righteously but who decides? Whereas spirituality is connecting with the inner truth/contentment. Recognising that we are part of natures rainbow, we don't have to be right or wrong as long as we do not hurt or abuse another. We as African people think that religion is a pill to ease our pain, yet the pain still remains. Until we grasp our spirituality take control of our lives and connect with our MotherFather and Ancestors we like the rest of the world will continue to decline, no matter how many churches we fill or what religion we follow. This is based on channeled information given directly by our Gods and Ancestors. See The Divine Source | Messages from the God of the blackman for more detailed knowledge. Amen Ra |
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Pragmatic (03-17-2009) | ||
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Well, from another perspective I would say that the only problem I have with sayinig 'spirituality vs religion' is my understanding that there are different kinds of spirituality. One can be deeply spiritual and feel as if they are tapping into some higher realities of the universe or whatever,, and thats perfectly fine, but if that form of spirituality doesnt lead to any positive actions or formulate a more righteous character in that person, then what good is it? It will ultimately prove to be just as futile as religion. Luciferians and Catholic Priests are 'spiritual' as well. But there is something inherintly wicked about the form of spirituality that they practice. An ungodly, anti-life, simply non-righteous doctrine NOURISHES their foul spirit. To give all praise to the Most High while failing to acknowledge the adversary as a roleplayer in our lives would be foolish. Because everybody is worshipping SOMETHING, The english term 'spirit' is a replacement word in the Bible, superimposed over the original Hebrew word ruakh,, meaning breath, wind. Now ruakh (spirit) is not visible to the eyes, but it is both observable and tangible, just like the wind. When you look outside on a summer day, you cant actually see the wind flowing all over the place, itss not VISIBLE, but you can still observe the wind cant you? How can you observe it if its not visible? Because you can identifiy the effect, the impact, the end result of the wind being present. You see the leaves scattering across the pavement, you see the trees swaying in one direction, you see hats flying off peoples head and all sorts of other things that verify the existence of the wind. And the wind is tangible too, meaning that you can FEEL it. You might not be able to see it coming but you know when it hits you, cause all of a sudden thats your hat flying off the head. And by using simple discernment we can distinguish between all the different kinds of wind, hot/cold, strong/weak, high/low..etc. It is the same thing with spirituality. Whatever form of knowledge you possess, whtever institutions you attend or spiritual traditions that you practice, regardless of name location or historical background, will still cause you to worship either God, or the Devil. No middle ground. All day every day you are accountable unto one or the other, because worship from the original Hebraic perspective is likened unto servitude, and determine by your WORKS. The traditions and rituals and utterances are all just a part of cultural influence,, but at the end of the day your works, deeds, thoughts and actions will verify what God you serve. The spirit of God could be characterized by the attributes of love, peace, truth, righteousness mercy equity justice, etc. So those that you see moving in constant harmony with these attributes you could say are worshippers of God. It has nothing to do with religion. Whether you are Buddhist, Hindu, Christian Hebrew or Muslim, you are STILL held accountable for your actions, your deeds, because they testify as to what kind of mind and spirit you posess; righteous, or wicked. Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not. -malachi 3:18 The devil's primary objective is to conceal his image and likeness. Because if you cant identify him, if he doesnt have any form, then how could you possibly defend yourself from him? All over the world people are talking about 'God', or at least some form of a concept of God, but by their works we can identify them to be wolves in sheeps clothing. Under the deceptive guise of religion, those wicked individuals who are actively doing the works of the devil have been raised up on a platform of 'untouchability', and through it have been able to wreak an unprecedented level of destruction on this planet. For example, everyone is busy quoting all of the beautiful things that the Euro-Gentile Christians are saying, while NO ONE even seems to notice all the wicked things they are doing. Because Satan's ministers have disguised themselves as teachers of righteousness. They arent talking about MURDER MURDER KILL KILL KILL, they are talking about 'peaceful solutions' and 'promising relationships' and 'hope for the future' 14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. -2 corinthians 11 So what exactly IS the devil? the hebrew word hasatan, literally means 'the adversary'. the opponent, the enemy, the active spiritual force that is in constant conflict with the will of the Creator. nothing mystical or spooky here, but just think about it for a second. This planet we call Earth used to be paradise. Africa used to be a place of majesty, humans used to be peaceful. Prior to about maybe 3000 years ago, all of the worlds political systems were largely agrarian (agriculturally based) and man stayed in relative harmony with the essential balance between himself and his environment. I am very cognizant of the fact that in the beginning, man had an intuitive understanding as to why he should not pollute the air he must breathe, the water he must drink and the food he must eat. But fast forward a couple thousand years and take a brief assessment. At some point, men had stopped pursuing God, peace, love, righteousness and truth, so the spirit behind that intuitive understanding was no longer present in their minds, but another spirit entered into the equation. And under the influence of that mentality, that adversarial, ungodly, non-peaceful exceedingly wicked spirit of the devil a new character was developed. New inventions sprang forth from this new mind. New ideas, new 'innovations' and an entirely new concept of 'human development'. We look around today and see that the ozone layer is being depleted, the water is being filled with poisonous, toxic chemicals, the food is being genetically manipulated and unfit for human consumption, and instead of slowing down or turning in the other direction, the forces that are responsible for this devestation are accelerating faster and faster towards damnation and destruction. They arent going to STOP chopping down rainforests, they arent going to STOP selling McChicken Burgers, they arent going to STOP lying cheating stealing and killing everything they can get their hands on. Because that we would be contrary to their purpose and out of allignment with the god that they serve 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. -John 8:44 13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High-Isaiah 12 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world... Revelations 12:9 12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. -Eph 6:12 I can verify the existence of the devil by the impact, the effect, the end result of his presence and his activities on this earth. In the beginning this was heaven, but the devil created hell. If there is no devil then where did this hell come from??? It says that the devil deceived the whole world, but the funny thing about deception is that the victim of it rarely knows that he is deceived. Yet, when we look around today at the state of the world, we see clear indications that something has gone horribly wrong. We can conclude of a certainty that it could only have gotten this way if this was the desired effect,, the primary objective of someone or something. And if you cant identify what that force is it is either because you are spiritually blind or being led by the serpent in your search. So thats my problem with saying spirituality is the key, because I know that there is spiritual wickedness in high places as well. Except that we come together and fall under the influence of peace, truth, love and God's righteousness we will continue along the path of damnation and destruction. Righteousness is the key, the spirit of God is the determining factor, your spiritual understanding or religous belief system is of no effect in creating a better world. Selah |
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All this talk about character, but the Hebrew Israelites in Philly seem to have nothing better to do but be loud and boisterous, stand on the corner, and call Black women bitches, the scum of the Earth. I wonder what book they are reading from or whos teaching them.
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Pragmatic (03-17-2009) | ||
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Ahneeahm..." And then we talk about spirituality... because it seems to me as if lot of people have been caught up in this conversation about spirituality. Well thats all good and fine but we've got to understand now that there are DIFFERENT Spiritualities...there are different spiritualities". GOD willing, I agree. AA, NA, CA, BAHIA, Janism, Buddhism, Islam, Yoga, thank you, good observation. Sunraah ..."Your heart had to be light as a feather. This meant that each one was responsible for their actions on a daily basis... Right, cause we are not more important than GOD's creation, therefore, we are not more important than are children, are family, are neighbors. Important people are not responsible to anybody but themselves. They are very dangerous. They say "There family is the most important thing in there lives", while smoking weed, smoking ciggarretes, smoking crack, killing, not being considerate. They are not responsible for others around them, there land, there people. There only responsiblilty is to manifest through there behaviors. As if there feelings were facts. Everything wrong in life that affects them, must affect everyone else, since they are only there feelings. 49:10] The believers are members of one family; you shall keep the peace within your family and reverence GOD, that you may attain mercy. 42 Principles of Ma'at 1. I have not done iniquity. 2. I have not robbed with violence. 3. I have not stolen. 4. I have done no murder; I have done no harm. 5. I have not defrauded offerings. 6. I have not diminished obligations. 7. I have not plundered the neteru. 8. I have not spoken lies. 9. I have not uttered evil words. 10. I have not caused pain. 11. I have not committed fornication. 12. I have not caused shedding of tears. 13. I have not dealt deceitfully. 14. I have not transgressed. 15. I have not acted guilefully. 16. I have not laid waste the ploughed land. 17. I have not been an eavesdropper. 18. I have not set my lips in motion (against any man). 19. I have not been angry and wrathful except for a just cause. 20. I have not defiled the wife of any man. 21. I have not been a man of anger. 22. I have not polluted myself. 23. I have not caused terror. 24. I have not burned with rage. 25. I have not stopped my ears against the words of Right and Truth. (Ma-at) 26. I have not worked grief. 27. I have not acted with insolence. 28. I have not stirred up strife. 29. I have not judged hastily. 30. I have not sought for distinctions. 31. I have not multiplied words exceedingly. 32. I have not done neither harm nor ill. 33. I have not cursed the King. (i.e. violation of laws) 34. I have not fouled the water. 35. I have not spoken scornfully. 36. I have never cursed the neteru. 37. I have not stolen. 38. I have not defrauded the offerings of the neteru. 39. I have not plundered the offerings of the blessed dead. 40. I have not filched the food of the infant. 41. I have not sinned against the neter of my native town. 42. I have not slaughtered with evil intent the cattle of the neter. Religion later took hold in Kemet when the Priest began to position themselves as the mediator between the Gods and man. [49:1] O you who believe, do not place your opinion above that of GOD and His messenger. You shall reverence GOD. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient. This became the blueprint for later religions including traditional African religion. Once we understand the original way was to connect directly with the Creator - we all have a direct line - then and now - once we understand the way is was and should be then we see the role religion has played in seperating us from our own individual God/Goddess/power base." [5:90] O you who believe, intoxicants, and gambling, and the altars of idols, and the games of chance are abominations of the devil; you shall avoid them, that you may succeed. [5:91] The devil wants to provoke animosity and hatred among you through intoxicants and gambling, and to distract you from remembering GOD, and from observing the Contact Prayers (Salat). Will you then refrain? [2:42] Do not confound the truth with falsehood, nor shall you conceal the truth, knowingly. [2:43] You shall observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and bow down with those who bow down. [2:44] Do you exhort the people to be righteous, while forgetting yourselves, though you read the scripture? Do you not understand? [2:45] You shall seek help through steadfastness and the Contact Prayers (Salat). This is difficult indeed, but not so for the reverent, Ahneeahm ..."Luciferians and Catholic Priests are 'spiritual' as well. But there is something inherintly wicked about the form of spirituality that they practice. You could say that about those who have called themselves, Muslims, historically, then condemn Islam. They "openly" practiced "slavery", against the commandment of the Quran. [2:177] Righteousness is not turning your faces towards the east or the west. Righteous are those who believe in GOD, the Last Day, the angels, the scripture, and the prophets; and they give the money, cheerfully, to the relatives, the orphans, the needy, the traveling alien, the beggars, and to free the slaves; and they observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat); and they keep their word whenever they make a promise; and they steadfastly persevere in the face of persecution, hardship, and war. These are the truthful; these are the righteous. They compelled Islam unto the people, against the commandment of Allah, of Islam. [2:256] There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient. They "invoke" other sources of "veneration" beside GOD in the masjid [72:18] The places of worship belong to GOD; do not call on anyone else beside GOD. [29:63] If you ask them, "Who sends down from the sky water, to revive dead land," they will say, "GOD." Say, "Praise GOD." Most of them do not understand. [3:175] It is the devil's system to instill fear into his subjects. Do not fear them and fear Me instead, if you are believers. [3:177] Those who choose disbelief, instead of belief, do not hurt GOD in the least; they have incurred a painful retribution. [3:178] Let not the disbelievers think that we lead them on for their own good. We only lead them on to confirm their sinfulness. They have incurred a humiliating retribution. [3:179] GOD is not to leave the believers as you are, without distinguishing the bad from the good. Nor does GOD inform you of the future, but GOD bestows such knowledge upon whomever He chooses from among His messengers. Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and His messengers. If you believe and lead a righteous life, you receive a great recompense. Ahneeahm..."Because Satan's ministers have disguised themselves as teachers of righteousness. They arent talking about MURDER MURDER KILL KILL KILL, they are talking about 'peaceful solutions' and 'promising relationships' and 'hope for the future'. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. -John 8:44 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High-Isaiah 12 ….the funny thing about deception is that the victim of it rarely knows that he is deceived. Feelings are a fact for the victim. The victim "believes" they are more important than everything around them, and unfortunate circumstance, for such a beautiful creation. Peace be upon you, and thank you for allowing me to share, GOD willing.
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