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Islam and Christianity: A Comparative analysis

Islam and Christianity: A Comparative analysis


The unofficial page of Sheikh Ahmed Deedat's literature.
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Please Note: I'm not Ahmed Deedat, please do not email me assuming I'm him or have contacts with him. You'll have to get in contact with his organization, the IPCI http://www.ahmed-deedat.co.za .Also I don't send out literature, as I dont have access to it. So please once again contact the IPCI for that matter.
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WARNING: reading any of the below, can change your life!
Please note, the literature below is intended to show to the Christian, the Muslim position in regards to Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him), the character of the Prophet of Islam and his mentioning in the Biblical scriptures, the Muslim view of the present Bible. etc etc..
Please, if you are to read any of this. Read with an open mind, as pre-conceived notions can impair ones search for the truth. Even though I' am not the author of any of the below online books. I have in very rare instances of Sheikh Deedat's books, inserted my commentry in order to clarify a meaning that I have noticed many Christian's misunderstand, or enhance the authors argument. I have clearly marked my insertions in Red. Also the authors footnotes I have placed below many of the paragraphs, to make it easier for the reader to pick up as one is reading along, as it is very relevant to the text being read. Sheikh Deedat's footnotes are indicated in the Fuchsia colour. I'll accept criticism or questions on behalf of Sheikh Deedat. As I support his thesis's, please write your comments in the forum (for
benefit of other readers to this site), and I will endeavor to explain any of the points God-willing.

*Indicates author is not Deedat. But distributed by the IPCI
MUHAMMED (PBUH) THE NATURAL SUCCESSOR TO CHRIST (PBUH)
This book, is one of the best in that it clearly shows that Jesus Christ foretold the Prophet of Islam in the Gospels. According to the New Testament, the Comforter is well proven not to be a spirit, but of a human prophet that was to come.
ARABS AND ISRAEL - CONFLICT OR CONCILIATION?
The book refers to the long Arab-Jewish conflict that sees no end. Deedat shows according to Genesis, Arabs have a legitimate claim to the land as do the Jews. Both being the children of Abraham (PBUH).
(COMING SOON)
IS THE BIBLE GOD'S WORD?
Using the Bible as the bedrock, and the words of Biblical scholars to support his case. Sheikh Ahmed Deedat exposes the fallibility of the Bible. An excellent read.
THE MUSLIM AT PRAYER *See how the Muslims prayer is reminiscent of the practices of the Prophets of the Bible. This is to show that Islam is the religion that was practiced by Abraham, Moses and Jesus. (Peace be upon them all)
CRUCIFIXION OR CRUCI-FICTION
Once again, one of the greatest books I've read in regards to the alleged crucifixion of Christ. Sheikh Deedat, bases the crux of his claims on the entire Bible.
MUHUMMED (PBUH) NO. 1 WITH A CHAPTER BY MICHAEL HART*Read as to why historian Michael H. Hart ranked the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) as the most influential figure in history.
(I have included the chapter on Jesus Christ)
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT MUHUMMED (PBUH)
God revealed a prophecy to Moses that a Prophet would arise that would be like him. In this small booklet, the Muslim scholarly claim is weighed against the traditional Christian claim.
WHO MOVED THE STONE?
A question that has been troubling Christian theologians for a long time. The book is a small but detailed exposition from the Crucifixion or Cruci-Fiction book.
CHRIST IN ISLAM
Read about Jesus Christ, on how he occupies a high place in the House of Islam. This online book also serves to restore the humanness of Jesus, and renounce his deification. Once again, with solid proofs from the Bible itself.
RESURRECTION OR RESUSCITATION?
Did Jesus actually die?, and then resurrected; or was his life merely a resuscitation from a trance?. This small booklet deals with another important element from the book Crucifixion or Cruci-Fiction. Did Jesus really die according to the scriptures?.
WHAT IS HIS NAME
Humanity still wrangles to this day as to the name of God Almighty. In this online booklet; it is clearly shown that Allah is the name of God in all the Semitic languages. As shown in the Old and the New Testament.
WHAT WAS THE SIGN OF JONAH?
Out of all the miracles performed by Jesus (PBUH), he gave only one that was to be decisive in establishing his credibility as the Messiah. And the one sign that would discredit his supposed resurrection.
MUHUMMED (PBUH) THE GREATEST
The man who has been ranked the most influential figure in history, according to Western scholars, and is outranked in greatness, is looked upon in this online booklet. A global community of 1.2 billion believers came into existence because of this one great man. His fruits bore witness of an Islamic empire stretching from Morocco to Indonesia.
THE GOD THAT NEVER WAS*We expect if Jesus was God, then he would have the Divine qualities of God. But as this small book clearly shows, he was 100% human. The book serves to reveal the absurdity of the divine status of Jesus when we look upon his human attributes.
"50 000 ERRORS IN THE BIBLE"*The title of an article that appeared in the Christian Awake magazine. Read it, they admit to errors in the Bible, but in the conclusion they'll maintain that it is still the authentic word of God. This is what has become Christian logic. The 1957 article has been preserved here for the record of Dawah.
COMBAT KIT
This well organised booklet is meant to serve the purpose of countering the narrow-minded Bible thumpers that visit the Muslim homes out in the West. Sheikh Deedat has written this book with the understanding and long term experience that logical reasoning with Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses etc is a futile attempt.
CAN YOU STOMACH THE BEST OF RUSHDIE
An exposition of the hypocrisy of the West in defending Salman Rushdie, as well as quotes from his infamous book in degrading the British people. A must read for those who only saw one side to the tension that erupted in 1989
ISLAM'S ANSWER TO THE RACIAL PROBLEM* By a German DiplomatThis lecture was given during the heated days of Apartheid. A West German ambassador who entered the fold of Islam explains as to how Islam is the only viable solution to the racial hatred that tears up societies in many parts of the world, especially the Christian West.
MUHUMMED THE PROPHET OF ISLAM*(COMING SOON)BY PROF K.S. RAMAKRISHNA RAO,
See what this Hindu
professor has to say about the Prophet of Islam and his noble character. As well as the fruits that arose out of his great legacy
AL-QURAN - THE MIRACLES OF MIRACLES (COMING SOON)
It should not be surprising that a book of God has always contained within it scientific facts that have only came to light in the past century. But the Qur'an goes beyond that, as this enlightening book reveals.

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Luke 21

24And they (The Children of Israel, the former standard-bearers of Truth wherefrom all the biblical prophets descended) shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.


This verse deals specifically with the chastisement and dispersal of the People of God, those who had been chosen of all the families of the earth to lift up a standard of truth-centered social development. After turning their backs on the preferred order of the Most High, he turned His back on them, and they were driven away and forced out of the Holy Land. Jerusalem, the recognized spiritual capital of the world, would then be left exposed to the influence of the ungodly (Gentile) nations, for a prophetic season known as 'the Times of the Gentiles.'

The Times of the Gentiles formally began in the year 70 AD, with the destruction of the Temple by the Roman forces and waves of Hebrew fugitives fleeing from their homelands, mostly heading into Africa. And since then, the world has never been the same.


Amos 8

11Behold, the days come, saith the Lord Yah, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:
12And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.


The prophet Amos forewarned us of a period of time where people will run to and fro to seek the word of God (Truth) but shall not be able to find it. The spiritual capitol of the world at this point in time has shifted (in the minds of the people) to Rome. In the absence of the authoritative Truth (the Children of the Bible and their presence in the Land of the Bible), a window of opportunity emerged for all other nations to seize the Power to Define biblical knowledge. So other spiritual centers came into play in various other cultures as well, such as Mecca, Constantinople, London, Bangladesh, each with their own different interpretations and reasonings as to why they were the top of the food chain.

The Famine of Truth was underway as the Hebrew Scriptures made their way into Greece, the Land of the Gentiles, where they would undergo the great transformation. Certain biblical concepts such as the virgin (israel) giving birth, the great ressurrection (of a spiritually dead people) and the reign (on earth) of a righteous King over a righteous kingdom, were all taken and placed into the realm of mythology. The Truth was given into the hands of the Master Decievers as this historical epoch known as the 'Times of The Gentiles' begins to unfold.


Daniel 7

7After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it;

Now you don’t need to be a biblical scholar to identify this great beast. These verses are clearly relating to this Euro-American confederacy of nations that has devoured the whole world with its great iron teeth, while breaking in pieces all the traditional systems of the planet. It then proceeded on to stamp the leftover cultural residue and ideology out with its feet and stand alone, diverse from all civilizations before it.


Daniel 7

25And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
26But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end


So this beast rose up and devoured the earth, once dominion was given unto him. Remember, in the Genesis man was fashioned in the Image of God and then dominion over the Creation was given unto him. But after continuosly backsliding against His guidelines and principles and losing that God-image, the African/Edenic Man lost his right to be the caretakers of this earth and that dominion was handed over to another nation. The rise of Euro-Gentile civilization represents a new dominion, of a man formed and fashioned in a completely different image (western liberal undisciplined ungodliness).

During the times of the Gentiles, all nations fell under the influence of this very powerful anti-God force, which spoke great words against the Most High during a famine of God's truth. Deception spread by way of institutions at an unprecendented level, and evil was allowed to flourish during the Famine. The god-image being referred to in the Genesis was almost entirely wiped out off the face of the earth and any surviving remnant of the ancient righteous teachings of our elders was looked down upon as crazed or irrational.

Daniel 7


26But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. (We would arrive at the last days of that anti-God civilization)
27And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

and then that God-preferred image would rise up again. Thats all the Kingdom of God is, a casting down of the ungodly mentality and the resurrection of the righteous one.


Revelations 12
11And the great dragon(deception) was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world (by means of that prophetic BEAST out of Europe) he was cast out into the earth, and his angels(those who spoke great words against Yah) were cast out with him. (cast out of the minds/heavens of the People of God)
10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation(after deception was cast down), and strength, and the kingdom of our God(a nation), and the power of his anointed: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.


The Bible simply chronicles the past present and future history of a people called Israel and documents their relationship to the world. It has nothing to do with this religion called Christianity. It existed thousands of years before Christianity was even thought of and will continue to be influential long after it is gone. Islam as a historical phenomenon has its place within the annals of history, the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) can go down as one of those courageous souls that struggled to move his people from unrighteousness to righteousness by way of his teachings, and for this I applaud him.

But nevertheless, the prophetic reality of the Kingdom of God on this earth eclipses any previously held concept of religous identification or preference. It simply becomes a matter of Truth.

Isaiah 2

1The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.

2And it shall come to pass in the last days (of the Anti-God civilziation)
that the mountain of the LORD's house (the Kingdom of God)
shall be established in the top of the mountains,
and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3And many people shall go and say,
Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD,
to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways, (because during the Famine they didnt know)
and we will walk in his paths: (the devil deceived the whole world into walking away from God's paths)
for out of Zion shall go forth the law,
and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.


And it said out of Zion shall go forth the Law, and the Word of the LORD will come from Jerusalem. But remember the prophecies? Jerusalem was to be trodden by the Gentiles, and we were to experience a FAMINE of hearing the Word of God. They said that God's law is no more (great words against the Most High) and 20,000 different religions all popped up claiming to be the one true path unto God. But out of Zion shall go forth the law(standards, instructions, guidelines) and the TRUTH will be re-established at Jerusalem. The People of God (Children of Israel) somehow find their way back into the Holy Lands, after thousands of years of exile, and firmly establish themself back in oneness with the Creator.

The throne of David becomes active again, Anointed leadership returns onto the scene and the Word of God now comes to challenge all those former doctrines and ideologies that were allowed to flourish during the Famine. Prior to this event, words and laws were coming from all over, becoming more and more influential and deeply rooted in peoples minds. Nonetheless, in the Last Days (and we all could agree that these are the 'last days' of something) the TRUE word of Yah was to be given a geographic location as to where you could find it, and it has nothing to do with any of the instititutions of New York, London, Saudi Arabia or India. The Truth would be coming down from Jerusalem.

The intention of this post was not to overtly offend or denigrate anyone's religous beliefs, but simply to enlighten those who are unaware as to the true nature of the Word of God from a perpsective I think should be considered. I dont intend to debate or quarrel about particular verses or catch-phrases, only share some good information amongst brothers. And I'm willing to listen if your willing to talk.

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