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    View Poll Results: Should foreigners be allowed to excavate on Afrikan soil?

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      Ancient Egyptian royal head puzzles archaeologists


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      A German archaeological mission stumbled on a mystery with the discovery of three partial pharaonic statues in Luxor, Egyptian officials announced on Monday, because one appears to date to a later period than most previous finds at the site.

      Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities (SCA) announced on Monday the discovery of two statues of Sakhmet, the goddess of war, as well as the head of a member of the royal family, at the temple of Amunhotep III on the west bank of the Nile River in Luxor, 700km south of Cairo.

      The finds were made by a dig headed by Hourig Sourzian, of the Friends of the Memnon Colossi association that is affiliated with the Egypt office of the German Archaeological Institute.

      The Sakhmet statues, which date to the New Kingdom's 18th dynasty (circa 1533 to 1292 BC), hail from the same period as most of the finds in the area. The head, believed to date to the 25th dynasty (circa 760 to 656 BC) that is characterised by its Nubian features, seems out of place, however.

      In a statement by the SCA, Sourzian suggested that the head might have ended up at the location having been left there by a 19th-century British dig or an illegal excavation by antiquities merchants.

      The lower legs of one of the goddess statues were broken off, while only the upper body of the other was discovered. The head is largely in good condition, although, part of the right side has been scraped off, said SCA head Zahi Hawass.

      One of the goddess statues is made of granite, the other diorite, while the head is granite. The dimensions of the finds were not immediately available.

      The head of excavations in western Luxor, Ali al-Asfhar, said he believes the royal head to be the most important discovery among the three items because of the questions raised by the presence of the head at such a location. Statues of Sakhmet are relatively common, having been found at many sites, he added.

      Most excavations in Egypt take place during the winter when the weather is more conducive to the long hours required for such work. -- Sapa-dpa

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      NO WAY! Look at what they've already done to KMT! They have most of the world believing that the arabs are the ones to credit for the successes of our north Afrikan ancestors. Afrika...AND ALL THAT IS IN AFRIKA...for the Afrikans!
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      it is humorous when they "re-inact" those times and the people dont look sh*t like what the statues and bust look like...

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      I know, right? They got them all looking like Mike Jackson in the "Remember the Time" Video!

      HAHA!!!

      The depiction of KMT in documentaries and dramas is what got me into video production. I want to do a documentary that depicts the people of KMT as the BLACK AFRIKANS that they were/are!
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      Quote Originally Posted by AfroNinpo
      I know, right? They got them all looking like Mike Jackson in the "Remember the Time" Video!HAHA!!! The depiction of KMT in documentaries and dramas is what got me into video production. I want to do a documentary that depicts the people of KMT as the BLACK AFRIKANS that they were/are!
      so what do you do as far as videp production bro? lol @ Micheal jackson. sometimes more like got-damn M. Quadafi...

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      Had to do this....


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      it's scary to me how much she looks like the nerfertiti busts
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kefentse_Bandele
      so what do you do as far as videp production bro? lol @ Micheal jackson. sometimes more like got-damn M. Quadafi...

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      Right now, I am working on a documentary called "War!" It's not about armies and politics, and such...it's about a question that Kush from PKV asked at one of his lectures...'what would YOU go to war for'. It's points out the different levels of exploitation that our people face and the lack of outrage in the masses of our community.
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      u should make that as a thread on here!!

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      I did. It died quickly.

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      I'm sick of seeing gorgeous status with the noses busted off. Those things are our inheritance. We need to organize and take back our property. It's not even about freedom. It's about kicking all those grave robbers out of our family cemetery.
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      Thread reminded me of an article I saw recently....


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      Busted: Statue's a Dead Ringer for Jacko
      Busted: Statue's a Dead Ringer for Jacko | NBC Chicago

      The Pharaoh of Pop doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as King of Pop, but visitors to Chicago’s Field Museum could swear that’s Jacko’s face on a 3,000-year-old Egyptian bust.


      The spitting image limestone sculpture has been on display at the museum since 1988, but recently started drawing attention because of its likeness to Jacko --- complete with disfigured nose.

      Unfortunately the bust, which was carved sometime between 1550 B.C. and 1050 B.C., is of a woman and MJ likely never had the chance to see the statuette.

      “I have no idea whether Jackson ever visited the museum,” a Field spokesperson said to the Sun-Times' Michael Sneed. “But the similarity between the limestone statue of a woman – which is about 3,000 years old --- and Jackson is astounding.”

      Interestingly, Jackson cast himself as an interloper in ancient Egypt in his video for “Remember the Time,” so maybe he sensed some Egyptian roots.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Guerilla Black View Post
      it's scary to me how much she looks like the nerfertiti busts
      A bit unrelated but deserving of attention, as it turns out the bust of nefertiti is a facade and underneath the outer statue there's a second face:

      Italian reconstruction team confirms that Nefertiti bust in German museum is
      covered with a plaster facade. CAT scans revealed another image beneath the
      first layer. Italian team's forensic reconstruction is shown below.

      An Italian duo have revealed what they claim is the 'real' face of Queen Nefertiti. Ethnologist Franco Crevatin, from the University of Trieste, and cosmetics expert Stefano Anselmo, started with a recent CAT scan of the famous queen's bust, held in Berlin's newly-reopened Neues Museum. The scan of 'Nonofret' as she's known in Germany, appeared to show a second face, made of stone, buried beneath the stucco top layer the world has come to adore. Using computer imaging, Crevatin and Anselmo have made what they feel is a faithful reproduction of the hidden face. And though differences are subtle - shallower eye sockets, lines around the mouth and a tiny bump on the bridge of the nose - the duo claim their version is closer to the real Nefertiti.
      'Reproducing the face of a queen who is surrounded by such mystery required months of painstaking, detailed work,'' said Crevatin. ''It was particularly difficult given the number of entirely diverging theories on her. Some even believe the bust in Berlin is a fake, while others believe the queen only had one eye''. The bust of Nefertiti, who was the chief wife of Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaten, is the central attraction at the newly reopened Neues Museum in Berlin. Thought to have been created in 1,345 BC by the sculptor Thutmose, it was discovered in the remains of his workshop on the banks of the Nile by a German archaeological team in 1912. The Egyptologist Ludwig Borchardt brought it to Germany the following year, although there are conflicting accounts of whether he lied in order to do so. Egyptian authorities have suggested the bust was smuggled out illegally and recently renewed a long-running campaign for its return. But Germany insists it acquired the Egyptian beauty lawfully and says it is too fragile to be sent back.
      {Image: Neuves Museum, Berlin, Germany, 2009) http://www.lifeinitaly.com/node/12529





      Image of the bust of Nefertiti on the left courtesy the Neues Museum, Berlin, Germany. The image on the right is the reconstruction made by Franco Crevatin and Stefano Anselmo.







      CT IMAGES REVEAL THE HIDDEN FACE OF NEFERTITI
      CT IMAGES REVEAL THE HIDDEN FACE OF NEFERTITI

      By Culturekiosque Staff

      NEW YORK, 1 April 2009 - Using CT imaging to study a priceless bust of Nefertiti, researchers have uncovered a delicately carved face in the limestone inner core and gained new insights into methods used to create the ancient masterpiece and information pertinent to its conservation, according to a study published in the April issue of Radiology .

      "We acquired a lot of information on how the bust was manufactured more than 3,300 years ago by the royal sculptor," said the study's lead author Alexander Huppertz, M.D., director of the Imaging Science Institute in Berlin, Germany. "We learned that the sculpture has two slightly different faces, and we derived from interpretation of the CT images how to prevent damage of this extremely precious art object."

      The inner face differed slightly from the outer one, with creases around the mouth, less pronounced cheekbones and a bump on the ridge of the nose.

      Nefertiti, the wife of the Egyptian pharaoh Akhenaten, was the most renowned Great Royal Wife of all 31 Egyptian dynasties. Considered one of the greatest finds of ancient Egypt, the bust of Nefertiti was discovered in 1912, during excavation of the studio of famous royal sculptor Thutmose.

      The Nefertiti bust consists of a limestone core covered in layers of stucco of varying thickness. The bust was examined using CT for the first time in 1992, but recent advances in CT technology allowed the researchers to analyze the statue in 2007 with greater precision.

      "CT has changed significantly since 1992," Dr. Huppertz said. "We can now acquire three-dimensional (3-D) images at a much higher resolution."

      Dr. Huppertz and colleagues used a 64-section spiral CT technique with submillimeter section thickness to examine the bust and assess its conservation status, gain information on its creation and provide a 3-D surface reformation of the inner limestone sculpture.

      The results showed that a multi-step process was used to create the sculpture. The stucco layer on the face and ears is very thin, but the rear part of the reconstructed crown contains two thick stucco layers. CT images showed several fissures and non-uniform bonding between the layers.

      The inner limestone face was delicately sculpted and highly symmetric. Compared to the outer stucco face, the inner face exhibited some differences: less depth in the corners of the eyelids, creases around the corner of the mouth and cheeks, less prominent cheekbones and a slight bump on the ridge of the nose. The ears on the inner sculpture were similar to those visible on the exterior.

      Thin-section CT was able to provide detailed images of the inner structure in a completely nondestructive manner and showed the limestone core to be not just a mold, but a skillfully rendered work of art. Retouching the creases in the corners of the mouth and smoothing the bump on the nose on the outer face may have been the artist's choice and reflective of the aesthetic ideals of that era.

      CT findings also may be important in preventing future damage to the bust. The findings of multiple, varying layers of stucco, as well as fissures in the shoulders, lower surface of the bust and rear of the crown, indicate vulnerable areas requiring very careful handling, and pressure on the layers of thick stucco is to be avoided.

      "Noninvasive CT technology and very advanced 3-D post-processing tools allow us greater insight into the internal composition and conservation status of the sculpture," Dr. Huppertz said. "This knowledge will greatly contribute to the preservation of this priceless antiquity."

      The Nefertiti bust is part of the collection of the Egyptian Museum of Berlin and will be moved in October 2009 to the recently restored New Museum in the historical center of Berlin.

      Special Report in April 2009 issue of Radiology

      Nondestructive Insights into Composition of the Sculpture of Egyptian Queen Nefertiti with CT. Collaborating with Dr. Alexander Huppertz were Dietrich Wildung, Ph.D., Barry Kemp, Tanja Nentwig, Patrick Asbach, M.D., Franz Maximilian Rasche, M.D., and Bernd Hamm, M..D
      Radiology. April 2009 251:233-240; doi:10.1148/radiol.2511081175

      Taken from: http://www.africanamericanculturalce.../nefertiti.htm
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